Sunday, 2008-01-20

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llnzthey appear to be really quite good00:00
llnzless fragile than harddisks00:00
mithrollnz: true, but the screen size is really sucky00:02
llnztrue, it could do with being a little larger00:08
mithrothere supposively will be one with a larger screen in the near future00:11
llnzbbs, diiner00:37
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mithrowell I have almost got this changelist stuff working02:23
llnzcool02:50
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mithrollnz: do you want to start a tp04 discussion google docs?05:26
mithroand give me and nash edit permissions?05:26
mithroor a wiki page?05:27
llnzwiki page would do05:28
llnzemail already on the way05:28
mithrookay05:30
llnzcreating wiki page now05:33
mithrollnz: when do you fly out?05:35
llnzfly out from CHCH early tuesday morning05:35
llnzfly to melbourne on saturday05:36
mithrookay05:36
llnzWill definitely have internet Friday/Saturday, patchy at other times05:39
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llnzhi pschulz0105:50
pschulz01llnz: Howdy.. just saw the 'LCA08 TP' email.05:51
pschulz01llnz: mithro is still trying to get me to do some more work on the debian packaging and dependancies (or he was).05:51
llnzcool05:51
llnzalso cool05:51
pschulz01llnz: Something else to talk about at LCA08.05:52
llnzok, i'll add it to the wiki page05:52
pschulz01just saw that email :-)05:53
mithrogetting close to getting this stuff working06:04
mithros/working/working fully/06:09
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llnzlater all06:46
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CIA-12mithro tpclient-pywx-statetracker * re32f41a13a73 /extra/__init__.py:07:53
CIA-12Fixed the returns of the Inserts on the patch wxListCtrl.07:53
CIA-12Added a few asserts.07:53
CIA-12mithro tpclient-pywx-statetracker * r29ab629b69d1 /extra/decorators.py: Removed the excess prints.07:53
CIA-12mithro tpclient-pywx-statetracker * rc7d481f48199 /windows/winBase.py: Removed the Post method which is no longer needed.07:53
CIA-12mithro tpclient-pywx-statetracker * r02ae7ee191e3 / (7 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)07:53
CIA-12Massive change to allow "pending" orders to work correctly.07:53
CIA-12(Associated with commit 8da7bbb68f88a032a2c49d12105d255660ffebdb on libtpclient-py development branch.)07:53
CIA-12Includes:07:53
CIA-12 - Massive updates to StateTracker.07:53
CIA-12 - Fixes to the everything which issues orders (to use StateTracker).07:53
CIA-12 - Changes to panelOrder to show the status of the pending orders.07:53
CIA-12mithro libtpclient-py-development * r4f24f0a1f950 /tp/client/cache.py: Fixed the always downloading the order descriptions.07:53
CIA-12mithro libtpclient-py-development * re8fd5755941f /tp/client/threads.py: Changed the way posting works and made the CallThread use the ThreadChecker metaclass.07:53
CIA-12mithro libtpclient-py-development * r8da7bbb68f88 /tp/client/ (ChangeList.py cache.py threads.py):07:53
CIA-12Massive change to allow "pending" orders to work correctly.07:53
CIA-12Includes:07:53
CIA-12 - A new ChangeList structure (which is a Link list) replaces the old dictionary.07:53
CIA-12 - Uses a "node" system rather then slots.07:53
CIA-12 - Changes to Cache and Threads to support this stuff.07:54
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remaximhi08:17
mithrohey remaxim08:18
remaximI just wanted to say thank you ... now my almost spamfree email add is visible on the internet... you just have to type in my real name ...08:18
mithroremaxim: what do you use to create the music?08:18
remaximit's not only about spam--- everybody who knows me and my real name just has to type it in google to get my email add ...08:19
remaximis there anything I can do because of it?08:19
mithroremaxim: hrm? I just googled it and didn't get anything?08:19
remaximmithro, reason08:19
remaximmithro, could you write me a pm ... that way I could write you my real name08:19
remaximmithro, I use reason for creating music... why do you ask?08:30
mithroremaxim: well, it's very hard for me to give you better feedback without being able to see what is going on08:34
remaximah... ok!08:35
remaximit would be great if you could post the answer for the mailing list post08:36
remaximI have to go now... so have a great day/night08:36
remaximbye08:36
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mithrojotham: so how goes your foray into pyglet land?19:23
jothamgood19:41
jothamam testing it atm19:42
jothamtrying tog et used to this mac laptop since i'll be using it all the time when i am homeless =)19:42
mithrojotham: I will be interested to see your shooting demo on pyglet20:11
jothamshould be able to handle a lot more particles20:11
jothamand...beam lasers20:11
jothamif i use OGL20:11
jothamwithout it ruining the framerate like in SDL20:11
mithrojotham: would be good if it still ran on my PC which only has a crappy i945 chipset20:12
mithromost of the other pyglet games seem to do fine on it20:12
jothamwell i'm working on a machine with a geforce mx 44020:12
jothamand a 1ghz processor20:12
jothamso i'm hardly pushing the envalope20:12
mithrohe he, okay20:14
jothami don't know how our 2 machines stack up20:14
jothammaybe we should run a test20:14
jothamjust out of interest, since i don't ahve a good handle on the intel gpus20:14
jothamhum, could take the toroid ogl example from pyglet and run it on both our machines, i'll see if i can modify it to show a real framerate20:25
mithrookay20:25
mithrohrm, no greywhind yet21:41
mithroor nash21:41
jothampacking sucks ass21:48
jothami amg oing to have to learn more about opengl21:49
mithrojotham: is that a :( or a :)21:53
jothamoh i totally don't mind learning ogl21:53
jothami should have already, it's pretty rude i haven't really21:54
mithroif it gets me a battleviewer, I'm happy :P22:07
jothamyeah i've probably not been the best choice of helper, i've used battleviewer to learn a bunch of crap i was interested in22:13
jothamand then my job kinda meant i never actually finished the project once i learned everything22:14
jothambut i have a tendancy to do that with hobby stuff22:14
jothamjust learn lots of crap and never finish stuff properly22:14
mithrojotham: I'm pretty persistent :P22:14
jothami think you have to be to be an FOSS project leader22:14
mithrosomething like that22:15
mithroI so want to be trying to fix bugs in tpclient-pywx instead of writing evil C++ code22:16
CIA-12mithro libtpclient-py-development * r6447a5298e01 /tp/client/threads.py: Make another method thread_safe - need to fix this properly.22:47
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mithrohey Appleman123423:04
Appleman1234Hi23:04
mithroAppleman1234: our current manual is http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/documents/tpclient-pywx-manual.pdf23:05
mithroit was done in scribus23:05
tpb<http://ln-s.net/1Qe8> (at www.thousandparsec.net)23:05
Appleman1234ok23:05
* Appleman1234 goes looks for thousand parsec ebuild, to install it on his gentoo23:06
Appleman1234mithro: Where is the src scribus file ?23:06
mithroAppleman1234: I'm afraid you not going to find one - want to create one for us?23:06
Appleman1234mithro: I had a feeling I might have to do that ....23:07
mithrohttp://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Thousand_Parsec_Wiki#How_To_pages23:09
tpb<http://ln-s.net/1Qe-> (at www.thousandparsec.net)23:09
Appleman1234is jrepin still active in tp ?23:09
Appleman1234Yes is he is23:09
Appleman1234JLP: Do you have an ebuild for me ? or do I write one .... ?23:10
mithroAppleman1234: source - http://git.thousandparsec.net/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=tpclient-pywx.git;a=tree;f=doc/manual;h=0909fb3fcce5df81d2e4672acf09334079397ec6;hb=master23:12
tpb<http://ln-s.net/1QeE> (at git.thousandparsec.net)23:12
Appleman1234thanks mithro23:12
mithroAppleman1234: you can check it out with git23:13
mithrogit-clone git://git.thousandparsec.net/git/tpclient-pywx.git23:13
Appleman1234another day, another git repo23:13
Appleman1234mithro: I am pretty sure JLP has ebuilds for tp already23:15
mithroAppleman1234: I'm sure he had some in the distant past :)23:15
Appleman1234mithro: has he changed distros recently ?23:16
mithroAppleman1234: dunno, but he hasn't been very active recently23:16
Appleman1234busy with kde 4 probably23:16
mithroyeah23:17
Appleman1234he is still a gentoo user though, so he definitely has the ebuilds even if he isn't hosting them, but I am happy to rewrite them anyways23:18
mithroI was going to make some snide gentoo comment, but since your helping me I'll refrain :)23:19
Appleman1234what comment ?23:20
Appleman1234make it anyways :P23:20
jothamhow about, gentoo is for people who probably need to get a job23:20
jothamsince they clearly have too much time and spare cpu power23:20
jotham=D23:20
* Appleman1234 is currently at his part time vacation research scholarship (job), coding happily with not enough ram for eclipse (512meg)23:22
Appleman1234mithro: what does inplace source have that normal doesn't ?23:22
mithroAppleman1234: you don't want the old stable version :)23:22
Appleman1234why not ?23:23
mithrothe manual is already up to date for that23:23
Appleman1234ok23:23
Appleman1234so I make a git snapshot ebuild .....23:24
mithrohttp://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Ubuntu_Setup23:24
tpbTitle: Ubuntu Setup - Thousand Parsec Wiki (at www.thousandparsec.net)23:24
Appleman1234great just great23:24
Appleman1234and you want manual for the development version in git correct ?23:25
mithroyeah23:25
mithrowe are trying to get a release out before LCA23:25
Appleman1234ok23:25
Appleman1234do I need server installed to use client ?23:26
mithrono, there are public servers23:26
Appleman1234good :)23:27
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Appleman1234mithro: just installing wxpython-2.8 , then should be right to go23:38
mithrohey greywhind_23:42
mithrogreywhind_: any progress?23:43
mithroAppleman1234: okay cool23:43
mithroAppleman1234: want to add a gentoo howto?23:43
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greywhindmithro: hey mithro23:45
greywhindmithro: nope, but i'm going to work on some bugs in about 10 minutes, when i'm done eating pie :)23:46
mithrommmmhhhh... pie :)23:46
mithrogreywhind: I did some massive patches over the weekend23:46
greywhindmithro: i noticed you marked a bug as fixed :)23:46
greywhindi'll update in a minute23:46
mithrogreywhind: there was a long outstanding problem with tpclient-pywx on slow links23:47
mithrowhich kind of required a total rewrite of the way orders are handled23:47
mithrohence two massive commits to libtpclient-py-dev and tpclient-pywx23:48
mithroso watch for falling code23:50
Appleman1234mithro: I haven't written the ebuild yet, keeping it is as source in my development directory instead, until I write the ebuild ....23:51
mithroAppleman1234: okay - that is what most people are doing at the moment23:52
Appleman1234mithro: ok23:53
mithrogreywhind: you ever looked at gitk? it looks pretty now :)23:59

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