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| mithro | afternoon people | 01:37 |
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| * nash waves to mithro | 01:41 | |
| mithro | hey nash | 01:50 |
| mithro | so bugs fixed yet? :P | 01:50 |
| nash | mithro: Nope | 01:54 |
| nash | Still haven't had time | 01:54 |
| nash | Been run off my feet the last week with family and house issues | 01:54 |
| nash | mithro: You know you can have a look ? | 01:55 |
| nash | It's just something not handling the obj delete call | 01:55 |
| mithro | btw, should I submit the org tax form? | 03:07 |
| nash | Your call ;-) | 03:18 |
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| llnz | hi all | 05:41 |
| mithro | hey llnz | 06:01 |
| llnz | hi mithro | 06:08 |
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| Epyon | mithro, nash, ping? | 06:52 |
| Epyon | JLP, llnz, ping? | 06:53 |
| llnz | hi Epyon | 06:54 |
| Epyon | llnz, i have a question about art for TP, and actually about licencing | 06:54 |
| Epyon | If I release some art for TP do I still retain full rights for it for my own usage? | 06:55 |
| llnz | yes, you are the copyright holder | 06:56 |
| Epyon | soo, I *can* use them for my own, let's say commercial, game? | 06:56 |
| llnz | yes | 06:56 |
| Epyon | kk | 06:56 |
| Epyon | thanks :) | 06:57 |
| llnz | when licenced to TP, I could use them for a commercial game, but would be bound by the licence (for example, GPL or CC) | 06:57 |
| llnz | you can licence them as much as you want, with difference licences | 06:58 |
| llnz | afaik, ianal | 06:59 |
| Epyon | I wonder if I can licence them specificaly to TP? | 07:00 |
| Epyon | Or is that in violation of the project? | 07:00 |
| Epyon | Because there's a lot of sci-fi models/art I need to do for my next project, and I would gladly share it with TP, but would not like to see it used in other projects without my permission. | 07:01 |
| llnz | well... i would think it best to licence it GPL, GPDL or maybe CC-by-sa | 07:02 |
| Epyon | Yeah, I know that's not in the spirit of Free Software, but... | 07:02 |
| llnz | with TP only the framework, many "sub-projects" might exist that want to use it as well in specific games | 07:02 |
| llnz | ask mithro what he thinks | 07:03 |
| Epyon | kk | 07:03 |
| CIA-3 | nash galaxie * r0b22f5c4f89b /run2.sh: Update run2.sh script for new binary name. | 07:10 |
| CIA-3 | nash galaxie * ra6fa4e10843e /tpe_resources.c: | 07:10 |
| CIA-3 | Fix a potential resource leak bug. | 07:10 |
| CIA-3 | Make sure resources are not free'd before they should be. | 07:10 |
| CIA-3 | Mithro: This may fix your bug... let me know. | 07:10 |
| mithro | Epyon: I would prefer GPL | 07:11 |
| Epyon | Well that will reduce the amount of content I would be willing to share :/ | 07:11 |
| Epyon | At least in case of the starships models I would prefer to keep my hands on them. | 07:11 |
| Epyon | (not the ones I already submitted) | 07:12 |
| llnz | Epyon: you should get acknowledged for every use of the content | 07:12 |
| Epyon | llnz? | 07:12 |
| llnz | ie, have your name in the credits (somewhere) | 07:12 |
| Epyon | Ah, nah, that's not always enough :P | 07:12 |
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| llnz | later all | 07:34 |
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| mithro | Epyon: ping? | 09:13 |
| mithro | Epyon: if your around I can help figure out licensing | 09:21 |
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| nash | mithro: *poke* | 21:09 |
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| DystopicFro | here in ~80 minutes | 21:11 |
| nash | DystopicFro: Cool & Fruity | 21:18 |
| mithro | hey nash | 21:38 |
| nash | Heyo mithro | 21:39 |
| nash | See my commit last night? | 21:39 |
| mithro | yes | 21:39 |
| nash | BTW: I'm not getting any TP email at all now :-( | 21:39 |
| nash | Seems I may be freeing some stuff too early - it was resources related. | 21:41 |
| nash | The bug has been there for ages, but didn't surface until I started using resources... | 21:41 |
| mithro | nash: oh? | 21:56 |
| mithro | why? | 21:56 |
| nash | mithro: Actually it's multiple bugs. All nested together ;-) Basically if there were not any signal handlers registered to handle the "ResourcesNew" message | 22:04 |
| mithro | i mean re the email? | 22:05 |
| nash | Oh. .NFI | 22:05 |
| nash | Remember how I asked you to redirect to my fst.net address? | 22:05 |
| nash | Since then haven't got any CVS commit messages or anything else? | 22:05 |
| mithro | yeah | 22:05 |
| mithro | the last email to tp or tp-devel was 17th of July | 22:06 |
| mithro | nash AT fst.net right? | 22:06 |
| nash | There should have been one to the commit list last night when I pushed | 22:06 |
| nash | mithro: Yep | 22:06 |
| mithro | I just sent you a testing email | 22:07 |
| nash | did you want to check for bounces? | 22:10 |
| mithro | hrm... that mail went through the same mail server | 22:17 |
| mithro | and the mailing list isn't seeing any bounces for your email address | 22:17 |
| nash | Weird | 22:25 |
| nash | never got to my procmail | 22:27 |
| nash | You got the commit message last night? | 22:30 |
| DystopicFro | nash: ping? | 22:36 |
| nash | DystopicFro: pong! | 22:36 |
| nash | My apologies for not being around the last few days. | 22:37 |
| nash | Had a series of minor emergencies | 22:37 |
| mithro | nash: yes I did | 22:37 |
| DystopicFro | no worries nash, hope everything turned out ok! | 22:37 |
| nash | mithro: Can you check I'm subscribed | 22:37 |
| nash | DystopicFro: I believe so... :-/ | 22:37 |
| mithro | nash: yeah, you are subscribed | 22:38 |
| nash | mithro: Most strnage | 22:38 |
| nash | No record at all | 22:38 |
| DystopicFro | good :( emergencies are never fun, even the minor sort | 22:38 |
| mithro | hey DystopicFro | 22:38 |
| mithro | I could use some help testing schemepy if you get some time | 22:38 |
| nash | mithro: It's not in the greylist logs either | 22:38 |
| DystopicFro | ahoy mithro | 22:39 |
| nash | DystopicFro: Well worst was a concern we may have nowhere to live for a week or two :-( | 22:39 |
| DystopicFro | kk, I'll use it in the RDE then and start poking around with it tomorrow | 22:39 |
| DystopicFro | nash: ack! I certainly hope you got that one resolved to a satisfactory degree! | 22:40 |
| nash | As a result, although I've read your status reports, I haven't checked the code :-( | 22:40 |
| nash | DystopicFro: It's sorted. Well it should be. | 22:40 |
| nash | Final confirmation on monday | 22:40 |
| DystopicFro | nash: good...I hope everything stays sorted come Monday >.< | 22:40 |
| nash | I'll let you know | 22:41 |
| nash | DId you get payments sorted? | 22:41 |
| DystopicFro | yea...there are two James Gardners in the program | 22:41 |
| DystopicFro | so they lost my info | 22:41 |
| nash | LOL | 22:41 |
| nash | really | 22:41 |
| DystopicFro | yea | 22:41 |
| nash | Maybe I should review the other one ;-) | 22:41 |
| DystopicFro | I guess they use names as primary keys in the database or something o.O | 22:41 |
| DystopicFro | hahah | 22:41 |
| nash | DystopicFro: Probably got printed to treeware without primary keys | 22:42 |
| DystopicFro | >.< | 22:42 |
| DystopicFro | nash: as to the code, I think most things are looking good, like I posted on the blog I was able to use it to build up the objects of minisec from scratch (not so big of a test for sure, but still...) and it all went well | 22:42 |
| DystopicFro | I'm just messing with the styledtextctrl now, trying to figure out how to get the lexer to do what I want it to do | 22:43 |
| nash | Good. | 22:43 |
| nash | And it's a good start. | 22:44 |
| nash | Have you looked at the mtsec ones? | 22:44 |
| mithro | Jul 23 03:33:16 lester postfix/smtp[23316]: 913DABBB1: to=<[email protected]>, relay=mail.fst.net[218.214.60.232]:25, delay=23, delays=0.05/0.05/6.4/17, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 OK id=1ICsPg-00050x-SL) | 22:44 |
| mithro | Jul 23 03:33:20 lester postfix/smtp[23327]: 05B91BBAA: to=<[email protected]>, relay=mail.fst.net[218.214.60.232]:25, delay=24, delays=0.06/0/4/20, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 OK id=1ICsPg-00050y-Sb) | 22:44 |
| DystopicFro | A bit, and that's actually revealed some problems with the way the TPCL code is validated | 22:44 |
| DystopicFro | since tpserver-cpp generates the _num-components property on the fly as designs are evaluated | 22:45 |
| nash | Sounds like a tpserver issue however | 22:45 |
| nash | mithro: Hmm | 22:45 |
| nash | mithro: Two mailservers... one mail enters... no mail leaves. | 22:47 |
| mithro | nash: :/ | 22:47 |
| nash | I'll have to look at the config | 22:48 |
| nash | Unfortunately I hve a shit load of work to get done today ' | 22:48 |
| nash | So I don't have time to trawl through the servers mail logs | 22:49 |
| nash | mithro: Waut - any later then July 23rd? | 22:50 |
| nash | What about last night? | 22:50 |
| mithro | Jul 26 07:12:46 lester postfix/smtp[20440]: 8FEF2BBB1: to=<[email protected]>, relay=mail.fst.net[218.214.60.232]:25, delay=10, delays=0.05/0.03/1.4/8.8, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 OK id=1IE1Gp-0006zX-3J) | 22:50 |
| mithro | Jul 26 07:12:49 lester postfix/smtp[20422]: A9E40BBA9: to=<[email protected]>, relay=mail.fst.net[218.214.60.232]:25, delay=16, delays=0.07/0.05/3.1/13, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 OK id=1IE1Gp-0006zV-2k) | 22:50 |
| mithro | Jul 26 22:08:55 lester postfix/smtp[26016]: 9F65CBB9D: to=<[email protected]>, relay=mail.fst.net[218.214.60.232]:25, delay=9.9, delays=1.2/0.01/1.6/7.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 OK id=1IEFG4-0002GP-Qc) | 22:50 |
| mithro | nash: btw galaxie crashes on the first startup with no accounts created | 23:02 |
| nash | Crashes or asserts? | 23:03 |
| mithro | crashes I think | 23:03 |
| nash | And is it related to the issue that tpserver-py claims it creates accounts dynamically but actually doesn't? | 23:03 |
| mithro | no this is on tpserver-cpp | 23:04 |
| nash | D'oh | 23:05 |
| nash | Strange. | 23:05 |
| nash | mithro: Want to bug report it for me? | 23:05 |
| mithro | nash: it doesn't seem to be leaving a core | 23:06 |
| mithro | o btw your screenshot method is a little annoying | 23:07 |
| nash | What is the last 3 or 4 lines of output | 23:07 |
| nash | mithro: ? | 23:07 |
| mithro | because it's a real screenshot, so I can't flick away from the galaxie screen | 23:07 |
| nash | Ahh.. yes. | 23:07 |
| mithro | otherwise I end up with a bunch of screenshots of my mail client :) | 23:07 |
| nash | Interestingly that should be fixed upstream in the next week or two... | 23:08 |
| mithro | tpserver-cpp segfault! | 23:08 |
| nash | w00t | 23:08 |
| nash | It's not me for a change ;-) | 23:08 |
| mithro | (gdb) bt | 23:10 |
| mithro | #0 0x0805258f in ai_util_planet_closest_uncolonised () | 23:10 |
| mithro | #1 0x08057545 in smith_planet_colonised () | 23:10 |
| mithro | more galaxie segfaults | 23:11 |
| nash | Can you put a -g3 in your CFLAGS next time you compile? | 23:11 |
| nash | That way I actually have a clue what causes the crash... | 23:12 |
| nash | rather then just a function call (which is wrong for inlined functions too) | 23:12 |
| mithro | recompiling with -g3 | 23:12 |
| mithro | running 10s turns ATM | 23:14 |
| mithro | #0 0x0805258f in ai_util_planet_closest_uncolonised (tpe=0x80a2fb0, obj=0x8114090) at ai_util.c:22 | 23:15 |
| mithro | 22 if (cur->type != OBJTYPE_PLANET) continue; | 23:15 |
| nash | Interesting. | 23:18 |
| * nash will look after lunch... heading foodwise now | 23:18 | |
| * nash hopes he will look after lunch anyway | 23:19 | |
| nash | ssh://reef/share/src/fst/fancypants/demo/fpdialer | 23:25 |
| nash | ignore that - wrong window | 23:25 |
| mithro | :P | 23:28 |
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