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| xdotx | llnz: hey llnz. not bad | 00:26 |
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| xdotx | llnz: you? | 00:26 |
| llnz | i'm fine | 00:26 |
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| llnz | later all | 06:39 |
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| niphree | hello | 08:22 |
| mithro | hello niphree | 08:34 |
| mithro | you there? | 08:34 |
| niphree | hello mithro | 08:42 |
| mithro | do you have about 45 minutes? | 08:42 |
| niphree | yes - probably even more | 08:44 |
| mithro | okay | 08:44 |
| mithro | JLP/llnz pointed me to the IRC logs | 08:44 |
| mithro | I had a quick look at the website they pointed me to | 08:45 |
| mithro | and it's look pretty good | 08:45 |
| mithro | niphree: but I can't examine any of the code unless you commit it | 08:45 |
| niphree | ok | 08:46 |
| niphree | mithro: I'll do this now | 08:46 |
| mithro | niphree: okay | 08:46 |
| mithro | niphree: I think we need to work on getting you to commit at least every day you do some work | 08:46 |
| mithro | it looks like you have been doing some good work but because you haven't been committing it, we didn't really know | 08:47 |
| niphree | mithro: :/ I always forget to commit :/ | 08:47 |
| mithro | niphree: once you get use to it, you'll never remeber how you did without it | 08:48 |
| mithro | niphree: don't be afraid to commit things which dont work | 08:53 |
| * mithro does it all the time :P | 08:54 | |
| niphree | :D | 08:54 |
| mithro | niphree: it is also about getting feedback | 08:56 |
| mithro | which can really save you hours of being frustrated | 08:57 |
| CIA-3 | niphree /tmp/eu7Qt8ocjO/uoDU5xWYOW-rewrite * rf66def185c55 / (8 files in 2 dirs): | 08:59 |
| CIA-3 | charts and statistics | 08:59 |
| CIA-3 | chart class - responsible for drawings graph | 08:59 |
| CIA-3 | statistics class - gater and process data | 08:59 |
| CIA-3 | calendar class - draw calendar | 08:59 |
| CIA-3 | test.php - test data | 08:59 |
| CIA-3 | via git-CVS emulator | 08:59 |
| mithro | niphree: okay, next I need a status report | 09:00 |
| niphree | mithro: commited - short comment, but I have more inside code | 09:00 |
| mithro | niphree: that comment looks fine | 09:00 |
| mithro | just fetching the code now | 09:01 |
| niphree | mithro: status on email or here on irc ? | 09:01 |
| mithro | niphree: btw, you might want to put the username/password in a config file | 09:01 |
| niphree | mithro: ok :D | 09:03 |
| mithro | niphree: currently everyone one in the world now has database server's password :P | 09:03 |
| mithro | an email status report (or post it on your blog) | 09:04 |
| niphree | mithro: eee... it's my friend database server - he want be mad at me :D | 09:04 |
| mithro | niphree: I would get him to change the password ASAP :) | 09:05 |
| mithro | don't worry, we have all accidently done that before | 09:05 |
| mithro | niphree: so what I would like in the status report | 09:07 |
| mithro | 1. what you have done so far | 09:07 |
| mithro | 2. How that compares to your midterm goals | 09:07 |
| mithro | 3. What you plan to do next | 09:07 |
| mithro | 4. A "self evaluation" on your progress | 09:08 |
| mithro | niphree: that seem okay? | 09:10 |
| mithro | niphree: your code looks pretty good | 09:11 |
| niphree | mithro: ok, I'll use email I have send you before - and mark all done/todo in this list and some comment uder this list. | 09:11 |
| niphree | mithro: thx :) | 09:12 |
| mithro | niphree: what length do you use for tabstops? | 09:12 |
| mithro | niphree: could you include in your status report some "reflection" on how you personally think you are doing | 09:16 |
| niphree | mithro: lenght: 3 spaces (I'm not sure about this - I'm trying to check in my editor but couldn't find it :/) | 09:16 |
| niphree | mithro: ok | 09:16 |
| mithro | and some stuff on what you plan to do next would also be good | 09:17 |
| mithro | niphree: are you on the mailing lists? | 09:19 |
| niphree | mithro: yes | 09:20 |
| mithro | niphree: have you seen the "Another idea about web site structure." thread? | 09:20 |
| niphree | mithro: I have read some mails in it | 09:23 |
| niphree | mithro: but I like current layout :] | 09:23 |
| mithro | niphree: do you think you could comment on how the metaserver might fit with the new layout discussed? | 09:24 |
| mithro | niphree: also your thoughts on the current website would be appricated | 09:24 |
| niphree | mithro: ok, if I think about something interesting I'll write this | 09:26 |
| mithro | niphree: As you are fairly new to the project, it can be really helpful to get your thoughts on it | 09:27 |
| niphree | mithro: ok :] | 09:28 |
| mithro | niphree: so do you have any questions? | 09:31 |
| mithro | or need any help with anything? | 09:31 |
| niphree | I'm thinking about what to do next | 09:31 |
| niphree | I know I have some bugs to fix | 09:31 |
| niphree | but I don't know what choose to do next ... | 09:32 |
| niphree | RSS feed (easier) or Starmap (for starmap I need to connect to game server) | 09:35 |
| mithro | the back connect stuff to the game server is probably pretty useful | 09:36 |
| mithro | but it will be a quite a bit of work | 09:37 |
| niphree | so now I have: easy vs interesting ;) | 09:38 |
| mithro | you could work on both at the same time if you wanted | 09:39 |
| niphree | mithro: ok :] | 09:40 |
| mithro | it's pretty normal for OSS developers to have multiple "balls in the air" | 09:41 |
| niphree | mithro: hmm.. it's also normal for most students ;) | 09:43 |
| mithro | niphree: yeah :P | 09:43 |
| niphree | k - so I'll try to do both of them ;) | 09:44 |
| * mithro notes that a large number of students are also OSS developers | 09:44 | |
| mithro | niphree: so do you think you could get me that status report ASAP so I can do your mid-term evaluation? | 09:44 |
| niphree | mithro: I could send you part of raport now. I have to write some comment under it and it could take me some time :/ | 09:46 |
| mithro | niphree: well, do you think you could send it to me before the end of today (your time?) | 09:46 |
| mithro | I could then read it when I get up tommorrow | 09:47 |
| niphree | mihtro: I should ;) | 09:47 |
| mithro | niphree: okay that would be good | 09:49 |
| mithro | niphree: can we also start meeting every week again? | 09:49 |
| mithro | or even twice weekly if possible? say Tuesday and/or Thursday? | 09:50 |
| niphree | k - but in this week I'm not sure if I'll be online on thursday - I'll probably know on wednesday | 09:52 |
| mithro | niphree: I would just like to make sure that we have regular meetings | 09:55 |
| niphree | mithro: k, I'll try this time | 09:56 |
| mithro | niphree: don't forget to update the bug/todo trackers too | 09:57 |
| mithro | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=132078&atid=829724 | 09:57 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/iPB> (at sourceforge.net) | 09:57 |
| mithro | so do you want to plan an official meeting on Tuesday? | 09:57 |
| niphree | tuesday is ok | 09:58 |
| mithro | say about 3 or 4pm? | 09:58 |
| niphree | 12:00 - 16:00 - I have mitting at 17:00 | 09:59 |
| mithro | lets say 1pm then? | 10:00 |
| niphree | ok :] | 10:02 |
| mithro | niphree: so I'll expect your status report stuff when I get up tommorrow? | 10:03 |
| mithro | it about 10-14 hours | 10:03 |
| niphree | mithro: ok :D | 10:04 |
| mithro | niphree: keep up the good work~ | 10:05 |
| mithro | s/~/! | 10:05 |
| niphree | mithro: ok! :] | 10:06 |
| DystopicFro | mithro: ping? | 10:35 |
| mithro | DystopicFro: pong? | 10:51 |
| DystopicFro | mithro: byah, should have waited a minute longer. Just have some questions about tpserver-py and how it evaluates the TPCL code, if I don't see you later I'll post an email | 12:05 |
| mithro | DystopicFro: okay | 12:15 |
| mithro | DystopicFro: the two places to look are | 12:16 |
| mithro | http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/dev/documents/ncl.php#tips | 12:17 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/iPe> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 12:17 |
| mithro | tpserver-py/tp/server/bases$ more Design.py | 12:18 |
| DystopicFro | well, I mean in that I've been checking out Design.py | 12:18 |
| DystopicFro | and it seems that the TPCL code written for tpserver-cpp won't work with the python server | 12:19 |
| DystopicFro | since the python server never defines the designType.-blah- procedure | 12:19 |
| mithro | can you give an example? | 12:20 |
| DystopicFro | so, for the current MTSec code, "(designType.num-ammo design)" is used to access the num-ammo property | 12:22 |
| DystopicFro | and the cpp server creates the designType.-blah- procedure when it processes a design | 12:22 |
| mithro | (lambda (design) | 12:23 |
| mithro | (if (> (designtype.firepower design) 0) | 12:23 |
| mithro | 0 100)) | 12:23 |
| mithro | you mean like that? | 12:23 |
| DystopicFro | right, those sorts of expressions | 12:24 |
| mithro | it should work | 12:25 |
| mithro | scheme.environment.defineVariable(scheme.symbol.Symbol('design'), design, i.get_environment()) | 12:25 |
| mithro | i.install_function('designtype.'+property.name, t) | 12:26 |
| DystopicFro | Ah, ok, I didn't pick it up because I just grepped for designType | 12:27 |
| mithro | the correct case is designtype | 12:27 |
| DystopicFro | well, someone is going to have to tell llnz that, since aren't symbols case-sensitive in scheme? | 12:28 |
| mithro | dunno :P | 12:29 |
| mithro | http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/dev/documents/ncl.php#tips | 12:29 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/iPe> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 12:29 |
| DystopicFro | kk, that sets my mind at ease now. Much easier to work with the scheme in python too, llnz has to jumpt through quite a few hoops to get it working in tpserver-cpp | 12:30 |
| DystopicFro | Good, I should be able to get evaluation of the TPCL code up and running on monday or tuesday, then, and provide immediate feedback from within the RDE | 12:31 |
| DystopicFro | thanks for the help mithro | 12:32 |
| mithro | DystopicFro: thats okay | 12:33 |
| mithro | DystopicFro: it is fairly slow however :/ | 12:35 |
| mithro | I hope to eventually wrap the C scheme libraries | 12:36 |
| mithro | should be fast enough for your needs however | 12:37 |
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