Tuesday, 2007-06-26

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nashDystopicFro: You around?00:12
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nashmithro: ;-)00:41
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nashTalk to you all later!  再见!03:42
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CIA-32fr33.em4il tpserver-cpp-rfts * ra02a9f16b2a7 /modules/games/rfts/ (Makefile.am designcategories.h rfts.cpp rfts.h): Created most properties and took a stab at a few components and designs.04:45
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xdotxand on that note i'm goin to bed04:46
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* llnz reads the diff for xdotx's lastest commit06:34
mithrohey llnz07:24
mithrogot my last exam tommorrow07:24
llnzhi mithro07:24
llnzcool07:24
mithrohopefully my last exam ever07:24
llnzhehe, yeah right07:25
mithrollnz: what you been up to?07:46
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llnznot much07:46
nashLots in fact07:49
mithronash: ?07:54
nashmithro: I just responded ;-)07:55
llnzhehe07:55
mithronash: too?07:55
nashllnz's previous comment... "not much" -> "Lots in fact"07:56
nashAnyway - early night - up at 6am tomorrow :-(07:56
nashnight all07:56
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* mithro heads to bed too08:11
mithrognight!08:11
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llnzlater all08:13
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CIA-32frodough tpruledev * r6f1d1d105377 / (5 files in 4 dirs): Check for prop modification11:15
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * r171f74b768f0 /src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)11:15
CIA-32ComponentPanel XRC Use11:15
CIA-32Meh, it's a big commit. I got started on gettin XRC working and then11:15
CIA-32got lost in it. So, not only does the component panel load itself from11:15
CIA-32XRC now but I've also added a custom XmlResource class that will have11:15
CIA-32all of the custom components (such as SchemeSTC) handled by inserting11:15
CIA-32custom XmlResourceHandlers for them. I'll probably end up moving the11:15
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xdotxwhoa!13:14
xdotxdmpayton: you're alive?! :)13:14
dmpaytonxdotx: Yeah. Been a really bad couple of weeks over here.13:15
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * re81385f1ae37 /src/game_objects/ (ComponentPanel.py xrc/component_panel.xrc): Added new ComponentPanel design13:15
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * r2dec0226b91a /src/game_objects/ComponentPanel.py: Saving of TPCL Cost Functions in Components13:15
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * r198cff0b61c1 /src/ (7 files in 3 dirs):13:15
CIA-32New Panel Swapping Technique13:15
CIA-32It works, but it appears to be causing a bit of a memory leak...so I'll13:15
CIA-32have to find what's not being destroyed when the panels are changed13:15
CIA-32around...13:15
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * re4a4172da851 /src/ (RDE.py core/EditorFrame.py): Save now saves the currently open Object13:15
xdotxdmpayton: something about inet connection problems?13:17
dmpaytonxdotx: Couldn't pay the cable bill, and inet got shut off. Had to borrow money to get it turned back on.13:18
xdotxdmpayton: with comcast? man, i think we only pay our's every few (3-4) months and we just get a $3 fee13:19
xdotx:P13:19
dmpaytonYeah, it had been a while since we paid13:20
dmpaytonSo now I'm several weeks behind schedule.13:22
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dmpaytonbrb13:50
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mithromorning people17:33
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mithro~seen niphree17:41
tpbmithro: niphree was last seen in #tp 1 week, 5 days, 22 hours, 20 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <niphree> good night all17:41
Epyon~summom niphree17:42
mithroEpyon: doesn't work, i've tried :/17:46
mithrodmpayton: ping?17:46
Epyonsith17:46
dmpaytonmithro: pong.17:46
mithrodmpayton: just thought I would check how is it going...17:47
dmpaytonWorking on the steps.17:47
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mithrodmpayton: you'll probably want to look closely at libtpclient-py (for a system which has the caching you probably need)17:59
mithroand tpclient-pytext for a simple way to use libtpproto-py directly17:59
dmpaytonmithro: Yeah, I just downloaded libtpclient-py18:00
dmpaytonI'll be sur eto look at tpclinet-pytext18:00
dmpaytonsure to*18:00
dmpaytonbtw, i'm gonna disappear in about an hour.18:02
dmpaytonpotential employer wants me to come by, so i'll be gone for maybe an hour.18:02
dmpaytonor two18:02
dmpaytonegads, my typing is horrible today.18:03
mithroi'm about to head off to a 2 hour exam18:03
mithroin about 20 minutes18:03
dmpaytonFun fun.18:04
mithrodmpayton: checkout the dev version - it has a slight sane interface18:05
dmpaytonmithro: it's about 8:30 there yes?18:05
dmpaytonAnd will do.18:05
mithrotpsai-py is probably the simplest user of the cache interface18:06
mithroit uses it in a non-threaded way18:08
mithro(probably how you will want too18:09
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mithroanyway heading off now18:40
mithrosee ya18:40
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nashDystopicFro: *poke*19:26
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * r00375ccd4df3 /src/core/EditorFrame.py: Removed Delete Project menu item19:28
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * r879a76f416de /src/ (RDE.py core/EditorFrame.py): Fixed the Save menu item19:28
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * rcd367726aa80 / (5 files in 4 dirs):19:28
CIA-32wxPython 2.6 Compatibility19:28
CIA-32A few functions were being used that were from wxPython 2.8. These19:28
CIA-32occurences have been fixed19:28
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * r2f14b95623db /src/game_objects/Component.py: Fixed Component deletion19:28
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * r0cf5961112c4 /src/ (5 files in 2 dirs):19:28
CIA-32Changed object modification tracking19:28
CIA-32Also added some notes about further refinement to emphasis of objects19:28
CIA-32and visual cues.19:28
CIA-32frodough tpruledev * rbf5c27064d9d /src/ (3 files in 2 dirs):19:28
CIA-32Added confirm on quit19:28
DystopicFronash: kk, all done19:28
nashCool19:29
nashSo you saw the changes to mid session eval I assume?19:29
DystopicFroEr...nar19:29
daxxarI posted about it on the ml, actually. :-)19:29
nashThe report?19:29
DystopicFroHrm.19:29
DystopicFro*checks to make sure he's subscribed to all the mailing lists*19:30
daxxarAsked about it, even.19:30
nashDystopicFro: That's cool19:30
CIA-32User is prompted to confirm the quit if there are unsaved changes.19:30
nashAnyway, a few things to do otherwise as well19:30
nashDystopicFro: Do you have a  sourceforget account?19:31
DystopicFrono...I suppose I should be making one?19:31
nashYep...19:31
DystopicFrokk19:31
nashWhen you have the userid, email it to mithro so he can add you to the TP project there.19:31
nashAlso he'll put you in charge of the RDE product19:31
nashs/product/component/19:32
DystopicFrorgrgr19:32
nashWe have  afew bugs for you ;-)19:32
nashAs an aside, I hope you didn't mind my small commits the other week19:32
DystopicFrooh, no, not at all, a little surprised, but it was a nice surprise >.<19:33
nashGood ;-)19:34
nashI might give you a bit of hand with doco and text in places, but I'll wait for you to finish refactoring19:34
nashDystopicFro: Anyway you have a survey19:38
nashNot sure exactly when it comes online19:38
nashdaxxar: Was there a report as well?19:38
daxxarnash: AFAICT only a survey19:39
daxxarmultiple-choice too19:39
nashdaxxar: Okay...19:39
nashDystopicFro: Try to be nice ;-)19:39
daxxar(sorry I didn't reply earlier, I thought you were talking to DystopicFro)19:39
DystopicFroah..ooooooookie....I was frantically searching for some message on one of the TP mailing lists that I'd missed19:40
nashdaxxar: It was - that's cool.  I just remembered a report - or is it at the end?19:41
nashDystopicFro: It was a Soc mailing list19:41
DystopicFroyeah, that one I saw...but didn't see a midterm essay mentioned anywhere19:42
daxxarnash: Probably. :-)19:42
daxxarKinda scary, I've barely *talked* to my mentor thus far.19:42
nashdaxxar: Who's fault is that though?19:42
daxxarHe hasn't been on irc for ~10 days, but I've talked to a lot of the other devs and mentors, so I hope it'll turn out okay.19:42
nashDystopicFro: So anyway... we need you to be here, and/or mailing list more?19:43
daxxarnash: Mixed - I was a bit busy in the beginning, and he's not *very* often on IRC (and hasn't been in touch) - and has recently 'vanished' from irc.19:43
daxxarI guess I'll mail him eventually.19:43
nashDystopicFro: You are about to hit the meat... but we need to make sure it's a complete meal at the end19:43
DystopicFronash: aye, I need to be around here more, and have an ac...hold on, crashing yelling in the hallway outside, brb19:44
nashSookay19:45
nashokay19:45
nashdaxxar: Do it soon19:45
daxxarI bet it's intoxicated personalities returning home!19:45
nashAlso let others in the organisation know19:45
daxxarThey know19:45
nashdaxxar: Which project did you get in the end?19:45
daxxarbzflag19:45
nashdaxxar: Cool19:45
nashAIs?19:45
daxxarYeah, or well, AI APIs19:45
nashYep19:46
nashOn the Java bots thing19:46
daxxarAye19:46
nashCool19:46
* nash remembers now19:46
daxxarJava isn't as much of a focus as initially anticipated, though19:46
* nash read many many applications19:46
daxxarThe Java API (RoboCode) is an inspiration19:46
daxxarHehe, I'm honored :-)19:46
nashdaxxar: Good... Java is a crap language19:46
nashdaxxar: You were shortlisted for TP ;-)19:46
daxxar\o/19:47
nashDystopicFro: So how do you feel you are going?19:47
daxxarWe're hoping to do some kind of API compatability when / if Java is implemented, but first priority is C++19:47
nashheh19:47
daxxarThen some undecided language, perhaps Python19:47
nashPython is pretty much the flavour of the month ;-)19:47
DystopicFronash: I feel like things are going very well, tomorrow I plan on getting an idea of the exact format I want for the code generated for tpserv-cpp19:48
DystopicFroso after delving into the code I hope to be able to catch ahold of llnz soon19:48
nashDystopicFro: Organise a time to sepak to llnz, or I can do it for you19:49
DystopicFro[email protected]?19:50
nashSounds about right19:50
DystopicFrokk, I'll get an email off to him, then19:51
nashGood19:51
nashOnce you start on that, I'm going to start on the basic traders game... see how far I can push it ;-)19:52
DystopicFroack >.<19:52
nashDystopicFro: Cool...19:52
DystopicFroit should be pretty good now, for storing and organizing data19:52
nashDystopicFro: Can we arrange to have a quick chat say twice a week here?19:52
nashDystopicFro: Well I haven't seen todays changes yet... But your mockup and previous versions looked good.19:53
nashDystopicFro: You are on the tp-devel list correct?19:53
nashBecause I'll post technical feedback there so others can comment if they wish19:53
DystopicFrowell, I'm usually unavailable right now, I have all my free time earlier in the day, but I can wake up early on two days out of the week to get on here I suppose19:53
nashWhat time is there now?19:54
DystopicFroaye, I'm on all of the mailing lists19:54
DystopicFro8PM19:54
nashWell the other good time for me (so I can guaranteed I'll be around) is about 4pm here, which is 6hours from now.19:55
DystopicFroHm. Well, I can make now work if it's best. I'm usually spending time with my girlfriend and her daughter right now, but I can block out 15-30 minutes19:56
nashSo your call;-)19:56
nashEither is fine19:56
nashI jsut suggested nowish (or 30 minutes previously) as we are on now19:57
nashOtherwise any time in between19:57
nashPick a time, and two days... Mon-Thu (ie my Tue-Fri)19:57
nashUnfortunately I'm in the middle of house buying at the moment, so outside fo work time I'm not wure when I will and won't be availbale :-(19:58
* nash notes unlike students mentors only get a t-shirt :-(19:58
DystopicFrokk, I'll be around here at about this time on Mondays and Thursdays19:58
* DystopicFro would almost be happy enough with the t-shirt if he didn't have to pay for college on his own next semester19:59
DystopicFro:P19:59
nashAhh... well it's always a different matter if you don't have bills to pay ;-)20:00
* DystopicFro wanders off with the gf20:09
nashDystopicFro: Cool - talk you later then!20:10
nashThanks!20:10
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CIA-32nash tpruledev * r08f3ab6ee173 /README: Minor changes to the README to make it a little more readable.21:42
dmpaytonRah.22:06
dmpaytonThat couldn't have gone any worse.22:06
nashPorting an 1964 C compiler to lisp bytecode interpreter running on a PDP-11?22:09
dmpaytonnash: no, though that doesn't sound like much fun.22:10
dmpaytonI was supposed to go over to my potential work place today... on my way to pick me up, the wife had a blowout22:11
nashblowout == puncture I assume?22:11
dmpaytonI had to run two miles down the road in 100 degree heat22:11
dmpaytonnash: correct. There was about a 2-inch hole in the rear passenger tire.22:11
nashSounds like your tires were rather farked22:12
dmpaytonheh, yep22:12
dmpaytonOne of the perks of my health insurance is really great roadside, however, so we got it towed to wal*mart and they put the spare on for free.22:13
dmpaytonnot looking forward to buying new tires, though...22:13
nashCool - so really it could have been much worse22:13
dmpaytonso I ended up missing the meeting22:13
dmpaytonnash: yeah, could have been worse, but... could have been better22:13
nashindeed22:13
nashI assume you called through to let them know22:14
dmpaytonof course.22:14
dmpaytonI've been trying to land this job for over a week, though. In the meantime, we're literally starving.22:14
nashYou;d be surprised how many people don't call and don't turn up for interviews22:14
nashIt's even funnier if they call up a week later and ask for another interview22:14
dmpaytonHah.22:15
dmpaytonI'd never do that.22:15
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mithrohowdy people23:51
mithro~seen dmpayton23:51
tpbmithro: dmpayton was last seen in #tp 1 hour, 36 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <dmpayton> I'd never do that.23:51
mithrodmpayton: we can have that meeting anytime from now on23:51
dmpaytonAlright.23:52
dmpaytonI'm still putting things together.23:52
dmpaytonThe job meeting took much longer than expected, though ironically I didn't go to it.23:52
dmpaytonmithro:  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I see, all user interaction takes place during the turn, and at the end of the turn, the game is updated and more game play occurs based on what happened when the game was updated, yes?23:57
mithrowhat you are thinking is probably correct, but I'm not quite sure it matches what you are saying23:57
mithroa user issues orders during a turn, at the end of the turn all orders are processed and the universe updated23:58
dmpaytonRight.23:58
dmpaytonThat's what I was thinking.23:58

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