Monday, 2007-03-12

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nashhmm... where is mithro or llnz when you want to beat them up04:23
nashFound part of your bug mithro BTW... and it's not mine ;-)  Well it doesn't appear to be04:29
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JLPmithro: good morning08:14
mithrohowdy08:14
JLPis TP GSoC page already in the works?08:16
mithronot exactly08:26
JLPmithro: i think it is important to put it up as soon as possible, there is not much time for students to look around (14 - 24 march), and the sooner they can read about the ideas and where to find others info the better08:30
mithroJLP: we'll find out if we are accepted on the 14th of march08:30
mithroI gave them the Todo tracker as a starting page for Ideas08:31
mithroso feel free to add projects to that08:31
mithroJLP: i think we only have a quite small chance however08:46
mithroso write things as generic08:46
mithroJLP: ping?09:02
JLPmithro: pong09:03
mithroso... umm :)09:03
mithrowhat do you think? will you go about adding projects?09:03
JLPmithro: i will, i only need to get some nice ideas09:05
mithrookay09:05
mithrowell, i suggested something like the following09:05
jothamhas anyone played with googles code thing09:05
mithroImpliment MTSec in one server09:05
jothamthe uhm source code host thing09:05
mithrojotham: which one?09:05
mithrojotham: just reading about it now09:05
jotham2 of my friends work for google doing python crap09:05
mithroImprove the XLST document generation09:06
jothambut i get the impression google does a lot of python09:06
mithrojotham: they do a huge amount of python09:06
mithroJLP: expand the Web based client one09:08
mithroimprove the metaserver - make it standalone09:09
jothami'm gonna push the battleviewer09:32
JLPmithro: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1678819&group_id=132078&atid=82972409:32
tpbTodo #1678819: Implement MTSec game in one server09:32
jothamit's still less usable than it used to be09:32
jothambut it's almost back to where it was09:33
jotham=)09:33
CIA-20[email protected] * battleviewer/ (67 files in 2 dirs): Start of event integration09:34
CIA-20[email protected] * battleviewer/ (25 files): Entity event code. More constants.09:34
CIA-20[email protected] * battleviewer/ (28 files): More changes during implimentation of event stuff09:34
CIA-20[email protected] * battleviewer/ (6 files in 2 dirs): test file for new event approach09:34
mithrojotham: cool09:41
mithroJLP: spelling?09:41
mithronope, you have it right09:42
mithroImplement just doesn't look right to me :/09:42
JLPmithro: i wrote it in OpenOffice.org first :) I don't trust my english spelling09:43
mithroJLP: I now have squigly lines in my input boxes09:43
mithrojotham: your a guinnee big for the darcs->sf push09:44
jothami always wanted to be a guinnee big09:44
mithrojotham: can you also add a README with how and where to get the dependencies09:44
jothamsure09:46
jothamyou use beautifulsoup eh09:47
jothami think i saw09:47
* jotham goes to look09:47
mithrojotham: i use ElementTree09:47
jothamoh elementtree09:47
jothamroger09:47
mithrojotham: you also need ocmegui?09:54
jothamsure, i was just trying to think of everything we needed09:55
jothami put pygame, ocempgui, elementtree09:55
jothamtake a look09:55
CIA-20[email protected] * battleviewer/ (README README run_battleviewer.py): Added README file.09:55
jothamonly a stub :p09:56
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bokey-webhowdy everybody10:00
JLPbokey-web: ahoy10:02
mithrohey bokey-web10:02
mithrobokey-web: where are you at?10:02
bokey-webJLP, mithro: g'day10:02
bokey-webmithro: still working on elicitation.10:03
bokey-webmithro: i got some ideas regarding src code.10:03
bokey-webmithro: but i think if i start doing that, it wouldn't be good idea. what do you reckon ? should I start with Frame class ?10:03
mithrobokey-web: I think you might need to stop elicitation for a little bit a try and do a little bit of network programming10:04
bokey-webmithro: right.10:04
mithrojotham: ImportError: No module named battlecontroller10:04
mithrojotham: you forget to commit something?10:04
bokey-webbe back10:05
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mithrobokey-web: my suggestion would be to look at the following, http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/networking/index.html10:07
tpb<http://ln-s.net/Jn$> (at java.sun.com)10:07
mithroand write a simple little program client which talks to a http or similar server10:07
bokeymithro, i have already done that part.10:08
mithrookay10:08
mithrobokey: I would also suggest downloading libtpproto-py and having a poke around the source code10:08
bokeymithro, right.10:08
mithroand try to write a simple little bit of python which uses libtpproto-py to connect to a server and login10:09
mithro(shouldn't be more then 10-20 lines)10:09
bokeymithro, yup.10:09
bokeymithro, i'll do that now.10:09
mithrothen I think you should start by looking at the xstruct module and see if you can write something similar in Java10:10
bokeymithro, i couldn't understand what binary packing is.10:12
bokeymithro, binary packaged sorry.10:12
bokeybinary packed.10:12
bokey:(10:12
bokeymithro, is it done via struct module in Python ?10:13
mithrobokey: xstruct is a extension of the struct module which supports the extra types needed by the tp protocol10:14
bokeymithro, right.10:14
mithroie variable length strings, semisigned numbers10:15
jothamuh10:15
jothami wondered why the commitdiff was missing a bunch of stuff10:16
jothamheh10:16
bokeyjotham, g'day.10:16
jothamhey bokey10:16
CIA-20[email protected] * battleviewer/ (battlecontroller.py battlecontroller.py): Added (missed) battlecontroller.py10:16
bokeymithro, how long have you been in software industry ? same with jotham  ?10:16
jothamsince 199910:17
bokeyi see you guys have tons of experience.10:17
jothamworking i mean10:17
bokeyjotham, ahh.10:17
mithrobokey: about 8 years10:19
mithrobokey: I've worked part time in the software industry since I was in high school10:19
bokeymithro, geez.10:20
bokeymithro, do you use ubuntu ?10:20
mithroyes10:20
jothamsame10:20
bokeyme too10:20
bokey:)10:20
bokeyi upgraded to edgy yesterday but python-logilab-common is showing error with dpkg10:21
bokeycan i paste here ?10:21
bokeyanyway..10:21
bokeyi heard there was an edgy release party in Adelaide in the city.10:22
bokey:)10:22
jothamheh10:23
jothama linux release party is serious business10:23
bokeyjotham, i missed it.10:23
bokeyheh.10:23
mithrobokey: you mean feisty?10:29
bokeymithro, no mithro. edgy. it was a while back. i think in Nov, '06.10:31
mithrooh10:31
bokeymithro, i found a simple usage scenario in the libtpproto-py's README10:35
mithrobokey: give it a try and see if it works :)10:35
bokeymithro, cool.10:36
mithrojotham: "darcs whatsnew -ls" is good for finding files you missed10:38
jothamaight10:38
jothamwhat does 'a' mean10:38
jothama ./relationship overview.png10:38
mithroit hasn't been added yet10:38
mithroie needs to be added10:39
bokeywhere's the tp server ? none listed in metaserver.thousandparsec.net10:39
jothamahh, excellent10:39
mithrobokey: it may have crashed10:39
jothamyeah i have a bunch of stuff i don't want added, you don't need my UML :p10:39
bokeymithro, ok.10:39
mithrojotham: oooh, cool UML :)10:39
mithrojotham: feel free to add things like UML diagrams :)10:44
jothamok10:45
mithroadd it in a doc directory or something10:45
mithroanyway got to run10:46
mithrobblr10:46
jothamlater bro10:46
jothamam gonna go read in the bath10:46
mithrojotham: in the bath!? how do you stop it getting wet12:46
jothamoh12:48
jothami print books out12:48
jothamand read them12:48
jothamso it doesn't matter12:48
jothamstaple the pages togeather and it's all good12:48
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bokeysee you all later. :)20:26
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