Friday, 2007-02-02

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mithrohey peopls02:20
jothamhey02:21
mithrojotham: how goes the battleviewer?02:22
jothamok, figured out how i am going to do particles, floating numbers, etc02:22
jothamam working on learning about rendering ttf right now02:22
mithrocool02:22
jothamwould be cool to add that mng sometime02:23
jothamyou know i can do 3D models/animations eh (i had some on my site)02:23
mithroyeah - the biggest problem at the moment is that the mng's I have are looped02:24
mithroso you can't tell when they are finished02:24
mithrojotham: btw what do you do? are you a student or working part/full time or?02:27
jothamright now i work for an interactive media company doing corporate promotional work (flash stuff) and educational media (variety of languages)02:31
jothamhttp://www.clicksuite.co.nz/02:32
tpbTitle: Click Suite | International award winning interactive media (at www.clicksuite.co.nz)02:32
jothamon that front page i programmed the christmas thing and the frog/boat thing02:32
jothamalso i programmed that golf thing that won the award mentioned on that page too =)02:32
mithrohow do you like pygame?02:35
jothami think the extra classes added to it (compared to the basic libsdl) are nice02:36
jothami like python for rapid development02:36
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mithrojotham: cool, is this your first pygame project?02:51
jothamnope02:51
jothamwrote a prototype image editor in it to get funding to do it properly in C++/Python02:51
jothamwrote 2 interactive media thing with it02:51
jothamwrote an image recognition tool in libsdl/pygame02:52
jothamall work stuff02:52
jothambut i recently read all about MVC and have been trying to apply it to my design of software02:52
mithrocool02:52
jothamso i've used this project as an attempt to play with those ideas02:52
jothambtw, I am 26 years old and live in Wellington the capital of New Zealand and my name is Jotham Read :-)02:53
jothamwhat about you02:53
mithroI have to admit I'm not really understanding what is different about MVC - it seems like what you do anyway02:53
mithrowell my real name is Tim Ansell and I live in Adelaide, Australia02:54
mithroi'm currently a full time Uni student doing a B.Eng(IT&T)&B.Arts(Phil)02:54
mithroI started the Thousand Parsec project in ~200202:54
mithroi have 6 months more to go on my degree02:58
mithrojotham: so do you work full time?03:02
jothamyes sir, 8:30-9am till 6ish03:02
mithrothey allow you on IRC at work? :)03:04
jothami'm head of 5-6 programmers03:07
jothamwe are a small studio03:08
jotham15-16 people03:08
jothamthey don't know/care03:08
jothami am the most productive guy here03:08
mithroyou seem very productive :003:08
mithros/:0/:)03:08
jothamheh03:29
jothamyeah sometimes03:29
jothamdifference between mvc and non mvc03:33
jothamis pretty much syntactic sugar and design patterns designed to seperate out the three parts of the acronym03:33
jothamwith battleviewer i'03:33
jothamve seperated out the controller (mostly contained in the main function of the run script)03:33
jothambut the view and model are pretty integrated, though it could be argued the xml is the model03:34
jothamthing is, it's not a concrete pattern, it's more a set of ideas you should consider when writing your software03:34
jothamlike, the observer pattern is concrete03:34
* jotham shrugs03:34
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mithroheading home now05:44
mithrobblr05:44
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CIA-11[email protected] * libtpproto-py/ (13 files): Fixed up README.06:23
mithroMinisec battles are kind of intresting06:33
mithrowith evenly matched fleets, one side tends to get annihlated06:33
CIA-11[email protected] * tpserver-py/tp/server/rules/minisec/actions/ (30 files in 2 dirs): Battle simulator for MiniSec.07:13
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llnzhi08:28
llnzlater all08:44
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CIA-11[email protected] * web/ (8 files in 2 dirs):08:48
CIA-11Updates to AI Competition + News Announcement: - Rusty's talk08:48
CIA-11 - Python MiniSec combat simulator08:48
CIA-11 - tpserver-cpp ai_comp.conf08:48
CIA-11[email protected] * web/comp.php : Fixed repeated news item.08:57
tpbNew news from http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/rss.php: Help for all you AI coders.09:00
mithrojotham: i'm going to add support for generating battlexml to the battlesimulator -> http://darcs.thousandparsec.net/repos/tpserver-py/tp/server/rules/minisec/actions/FleetCombat.py09:57
tpb<http://ln-s.net/IQu> (at darcs.thousandparsec.net)09:57
mithroso you might have something a bit more intresting battles to play with09:58
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JLPmorning all10:46
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JLPhi gorilla11:43
JLPgorilla: what brings you here?12:09
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gorillaI bumped into mithro the other afternoon and decided to drop in an see what was happening.12:15
gorillasorry i was afk.12:16
JLPgreat to see you here12:17
gorillaI found out about thousand parsec at Linux.conf.au12:18
JLPyeah, i've watched the videos from the conference, too bad i wasn't able to be there12:19
JLPand i guess i will not be able to for quite some time :(12:19
gorillaI know that feeling.. I just missed out on going to Dunedin(sp??) as I was "let go" at work. :-/ *mutter* *mutter*12:20
JLPFor me it is just too far away. Slovenia is on the other side of the world12:22
gorillaJLP: ahhh sorry I thought you were closer. :-)12:22
JLPi wish :)12:22
JLPbrb, have to prepare something for breakfast12:26
gorillago for it... might get something myself... this house is too hot.12:28
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llnzhi all22:40
JLPllnz: ahoy22:40
llnz:-)22:41
* llnz ponders what to do today22:49
JLP:)22:50
JLPi was skiing all day today22:50
llnzfun22:50
JLPinstead of resuming the work on parsek22:50
JLPnow i'm all tired and just not in the moof very much22:51
JLPso i'm more or less just playing with graphics tablet that my sister just bought for herself22:52
llnzhehehe22:52
llnzthat's ok, everyone needs a break22:53
JLPand i'm trying to convience her to draw something for TP22:53
JLPfor starters i suggested her to do some easy job like making some banners/buttons for web sites22:54
JLPwe'll se if she will be in the mood :) she is king of shy and doesn't like to show her drawings to others22:56
CIA-11Lee Begg <[email protected]> * tpserver-cpp/tpserver/metaserverconnection.cpp :23:36
CIA-11Removed printf and added error details to logging in MetaserverConnection:23:36
CIA-11 Just makes things that much cleaner.23:36
CIA-11Lee Begg <[email protected]> * tpserver-cpp/ (9 files in 2 dirs):23:41
CIA-11Add settings to turn off (and on, by default) sending updates to the metaserver:23:41
CIA-11 Saves some problems when working offline or wanting a private game.23:41

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