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jotham | http://archibase.net/archinews/14101.html <- awesome | 00:35 |
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tpb | Title: Architecture Portal News: City of the future?! [Pics] (at archibase.net) | 00:35 |
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mithro | hey people | 01:14 |
nash | hey | 01:15 |
mithro | jotham: ping? | 01:20 |
mithro | ~seen jotham | 01:20 |
tpb | mithro: jotham was last seen in #tp 45 minutes and 3 seconds ago: <jotham> http://archibase.net/archinews/14101.html <- awesome | 01:20 |
jotham | ping | 01:20 |
mithro | tpb: how are you going with the other stuff? | 01:20 |
tpb | ... but how are you mystiqq ... | 01:20 |
mithro | opps | 01:20 |
mithro | s/tpb/jotham/ | 01:20 |
jotham | ok, i have been busy with work today | 01:20 |
jotham | but i've put some time in, will probably be all going this evening | 01:21 |
mithro | that would be cool | 01:21 |
JLP | mithro: yo | 01:36 |
mithro | hey JLP | 01:36 |
* JLP is very impressed with KDevelop 3.4, much more stable and more clean interface among other things | 02:07 | |
mithro | adhoc: can you remind me about the AirStream thing on Wednesday? I'm likely to forget otherwise :P | 02:42 |
jotham | microsoft outlooks calander reminder thing = the one good thing about outlook | 02:44 |
mithro | I could most probably get evolution to remind me | 03:05 |
mithro | but i'm not quite sure how | 03:05 |
jotham | cron! | 03:05 |
nash | mithro: Click the arrow next to "New" and select "New Appointment"... fill in details including a reminder to annoy you when necessary | 03:08 |
mithro | dealing with centerlink sucks | 04:01 |
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jotham | what is centerlink | 06:43 |
nash | government support agency | 06:46 |
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llnz | is there anything wrong with tpserver-cpp that people would like me to fix before the next release? | 06:51 |
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llnz | "Running on tpserver-cpp (Version: 0.4.0) playing MiniSec (Version: 0.1) - This is Lee's development game, running the bleeding edge tpserver-cpp" | 09:04 |
llnz | from the metaserver :-) | 09:05 |
jotham | hey lee | 09:06 |
llnz | hi jotham | 09:06 |
llnz | what brings you to #tp? | 09:08 |
jotham | uhm, mithro asked me to create a battle viewer script in pygame | 09:09 |
jotham | have been working on it | 09:09 |
llnz | hehe, cool | 09:10 |
jotham | we will see, heh | 09:12 |
* llnz remembers he is supposed to be working on fixing the dtd for battle.xml | 09:28 | |
jotham | yeah someone has to write a parser | 09:36 |
jotham | that turns the xml into things like this: | 09:36 |
jotham | round.append(actions.Move('battleship-54-1', (0,0))) | 09:36 |
jotham | but that's another kettle of weasles | 09:36 |
jotham | you could well find my code too extremely gross to use =) | 09:37 |
llnz | hehe | 09:47 |
llnz | you have never looked at the code for tpserver-cpp then :-) | 09:48 |
jotham | heh | 09:48 |
* llnz notes he has to make a big change to the dtd and example1.xml | 10:04 | |
llnz | references can not be elements, they have to be attributes | 10:05 |
* llnz ponders keeping the reference elements and making the actual reference an attribute of that, or removing all reference elements and in the parent object, adding a reference attribute | 10:08 | |
jotham | i've built my code to keep track of everything by the reference id | 10:17 |
jotham | i.e. battleship-59-2 | 10:17 |
llnz | that's ok | 10:17 |
llnz | instead of | 10:18 |
llnz | <reference>battleship-59-1</reference> | 10:18 |
llnz | it's now | 10:18 |
llnz | <reference ref="battleship-59-1" /> | 10:18 |
jotham | this is how i've been manually reinterpreting it for my own internal use (someone is gonna have to parse the xml into this kind of thing) | 10:18 |
jotham | http://rafb.net/p/GKt28520.html | 10:18 |
tpb | Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net) | 10:18 |
llnz | that shouldn't be too hard | 10:19 |
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jotham | hey mithro | 10:24 |
jotham | bbl bath | 10:27 |
llnz | hummm.... all ID attributes have to start with a letter... | 10:34 |
mithro | hey jotham | 10:36 |
mithro | llnz: hrm? | 10:37 |
mithro | llnz: useful http://sourceforge.net/projects/dtddoc/ ? | 10:37 |
tpb | Title: SourceForge.net: DTDDoc (at sourceforge.net) | 10:37 |
mithro | jotham: ping me when you get back | 10:43 |
llnz | mithro: been using xmllint to check dtd and example1.xml | 10:44 |
mithro | okay | 10:44 |
llnz | i have it validating now, fairly large change though | 10:44 |
llnz | for example, the reference element is now empty, and has a "ref" attribute instead | 10:45 |
llnz | shall i put them in a paste bin for you to look at? | 10:48 |
mithro | okay | 10:48 |
llnz | dtd: http://pastebin.com/871108 | 10:50 |
llnz | xml: http://pastebin.com/871110 | 10:53 |
tpb | Title: XML pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com) | 10:53 |
* llnz notes pastebin is slow | 10:53 | |
mithro | yes | 10:57 |
mithro | maybe you need to find a better pastebin :P | 10:57 |
llnz | should the protocol.xml doc be in a repo called protocol? | 11:00 |
llnz | or something else | 11:00 |
mithro | yeah | 11:01 |
mithro | well actually a documents repo would be good | 11:02 |
llnz | hummm... | 11:02 |
llnz | i think the protocol.xml might be better on its own | 11:02 |
mithro | well - what about other related documents? such as this one? | 11:02 |
llnz | would you like me to setup a documents repo as well? | 11:02 |
llnz | humm... | 11:03 |
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llnz | grrrr.. | 11:08 |
llnz | freenode timed out, then konversation crashed | 11:08 |
llnz | oh, mithro gone as well.... | 11:09 |
tpb | Lee has joined on worldforge | 11:10 |
tpb | Lee has left on worldforge | 11:10 |
llnz | nope, mithro not over in there | 11:12 |
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mithro | sorry, our freenode server crashed | 11:20 |
mithro | so where where we? | 11:21 |
llnz | did you see my suggestion for other names, like xml and dtd? | 11:21 |
mithro | nope | 11:21 |
llnz | ok, well there they are | 11:22 |
mithro | last thing i said was "why do you want a seperate repository?" | 11:22 |
llnz | didn't see that either | 11:22 |
llnz | to reduce the data required for getting the dtd's | 11:22 |
llnz | so I don't need to get the python library as well | 11:23 |
mithro | did you seem my comment about it being annoying to get a whole repository? | 11:24 |
llnz | nope | 11:25 |
mithro | i wanted a document repository | 11:25 |
mithro | which would include things like the protocol.* and the battle.* | 11:25 |
llnz | ok | 11:26 |
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mithro | would that be okay? | 11:26 |
mithro | llnz: the changes where okay | 11:27 |
mithro | can you commit them back? | 11:27 |
llnz | i'll commit them shortly | 11:27 |
llnz | i guess document would be ok | 11:28 |
mithro | documents? | 11:28 |
llnz | yeah, you choose | 11:28 |
mithro | documents sounds better | 11:28 |
llnz | ok | 11:28 |
mithro | make a directory with "protocol" in it | 11:28 |
mithro | is there a way to do a "reference" like in svn? | 11:30 |
llnz | ? | 11:30 |
llnz | svn has just one big store for all repos, darcs has lots of small ones (with hard links when possible) | 11:31 |
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mithro | sorry, went away to do an interview about the ai programming competition | 11:45 |
llnz | cool | 11:45 |
mithro | llnz: svn can reference external repositories | 11:45 |
llnz | oh | 11:45 |
llnz | no, darcs does not have references | 11:46 |
llnz | but all darcs repos start from the same tree (scarey) | 11:47 |
mithro | he he okay :P | 11:48 |
llnz | so i can get the libtpproto2-py repo, then pull in the battleviewer repo, and sort it out from there | 11:49 |
llnz | (keeping full history) | 11:49 |
mithro | ? | 11:50 |
mithro | to create a documents repository? | 11:50 |
llnz | do you want to keep the full history (patch log) of the documents? | 11:50 |
llnz | or just an initial import? | 11:51 |
mithro | doesn't bother me to much on the battle.dtd stuff | 11:51 |
llnz | ok | 11:51 |
mithro | but history on the protocol.xml/protocol.dtd would be good | 11:53 |
llnz | ok | 11:53 |
llnz | about to create documents repo, ok? | 11:53 |
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mithro | sure! | 11:54 |
mithro | jotham: ping? | 11:54 |
llnz | documents repo set up (except for mail) | 12:03 |
mithro | can you setup stuff for the battleviewer repository too? | 12:05 |
llnz | sure | 12:05 |
llnz | done | 12:06 |
mithro | cool | 12:07 |
mithro | bblr | 12:07 |
mithro | jotham: feel free to bable and I'll read the scroll back later | 12:07 |
CIA-11 | Lee Begg <[email protected]> * battleviewer/ (34 files): Fixed DTD and XML, now validates | 12:12 |
jotham | rafb.net/paste is nicer than pastebin.com :p | 12:21 |
llnz | hehe | 12:21 |
jotham | with svn you can have as many repos as you want, it's just the tutorials usually just make one repo | 12:22 |
jotham | (just read the scrollback) | 12:22 |
jotham | anyway i got the lasers drawing, just as lines right now, and they animate before the next 'round' occures, i need to do the damage stuff tomorrow, and probably the other weapon effects...also i think the laser effect ihave right now looks crap | 12:23 |
jotham | but i was trying to organise the nicest way to lay out the code | 12:23 |
jotham | so it's a mixture of pressing ahead and pissing around with details | 12:24 |
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JLP | hello all | 12:37 |
llnz | hi JLP | 12:38 |
CIA-11 | Lee Begg <[email protected]> * documents/protocol/ (14 files): | 12:54 |
CIA-11 | Fixed XML and DTD, and added parameterset element def and sub elements: | 12:54 |
CIA-11 | Moved subtype and example elements to the right place. | 12:54 |
CIA-11 | Added subtype to the DTD and fixed optional parameters | 12:54 |
CIA-11 | Added parameterset, parameter, descstruct, usestruct elements for describing | 12:54 |
CIA-11 | order parameters, and soon, object parameters | 12:54 |
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llnz | later all | 13:03 |
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mithro | jotham: cool | 13:25 |
mithro | don't forget to use darcs record regularly to keep a record of you changes | 13:26 |
mithro | jotham: btw, have you joined the mailing list? it's really low volume and we would love to see you stick around | 13:35 |
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