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| mithro | Hey GChriss! | 00:22 |
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| mithro | So I got your email about LibrePlanet 2016 | 00:22 |
| mithro | First question, when is LibrePlanet? | 00:23 |
| GChriss | hi mithro (and channel) | 00:23 |
| GChriss | LibrePlanet is the weekend of March 19-20 at MIT; the full program and speaker bios are available at https://libreplanet.org/2016/ | 00:24 |
| tpb | Title: LibrePlanet 2016 (at libreplanet.org) | 00:24 |
| GChriss | for context I'm coordinating one of the panels (and as it stands, the only media-related panel for this year) and just sent mithro a speaking invitation to talk about #timvideos, Numato Opsis, and 2016 resolutions | 00:25 |
| * GChriss just discovered https://blog.mithis.net/archives/lca/2167-timvideos-us-2016-new-years-resolutions | 00:26 | |
| mithro | GChriss: So, I'm definitely not going to make it out to anywhere in the US for the next probably 6 months | 00:27 |
| GChriss | I will be at MIT in-person, Silvia Pfeiffer will be joining via video link, and Kat Walsh (mindspillage) will be a moderator at MIT | 00:27 |
| GChriss | we will likely add another panelist @ MIT; Silvia is already based in Syndey | 00:27 |
| GChriss | ...and it's an opportunity to connect with an extended audience both in-person and live-streamed online | 00:28 |
| GChriss | "Challenges and Future Growth in Libre Media and Conference Video Production" @ https://libreplanet.org/2016/program/index.html | 00:29 |
| tpb | Title: LibrePlanet Sessions (at libreplanet.org) | 00:29 |
| * tumbleweed will be there | 00:30 | |
| GChriss | it's intended to be designed as an open discussion about how the state of free video and media stands now and how it can be improved on both technically and from an organizational-adoption standpoint | 00:31 |
| GChriss | hi tumbleweed! | 00:32 |
| GChriss | with community involvement | 00:32 |
| mithro | the name Kat Walsh sounds very familiar | 00:34 |
| mithro | GChriss: it sounds like there are a couple of options | 00:34 |
| GChriss | she is a former chair of the Wikimedia Foundation and recently-appointed FSF director | 00:34 |
| GChriss | ...and a patent lawyer with a lot of exposure to #xiph | 00:35 |
| mithro | GChriss: One of the people here in the US could join in person | 00:35 |
| mithro | GChriss: or I could join remotely like Silvia (we could organise to join from the same location to make it easier) | 00:35 |
| GChriss | I'm not by any means opposed to both simultaneously | 00:36 |
| GChriss | Libreplanet is a coordinated but not highly structured conference | 00:36 |
| GChriss | the schedule is still in an 'editing' state; I did request a time that would be AU-friendly | 00:37 |
| CarlFK | GChriss: how many days/tracks ? | 00:38 |
| GChriss | CarlFK: it's a two-day conference (Saturday+Sunday) with ~3 keynotes plus three breakout rooms | 00:39 |
| GChriss | media.libreplanet.org has a number of photos and videos from years past | 00:39 |
| GChriss | in-person attendance last year was about 350 ppl (plus 300 online viewers, peak) but registration is running higher this year bolstered by a distinctive keynote | 00:40 |
| GChriss | which is to say a live video link w/ Edward Snowden | 00:41 |
| CarlFK | how did you do the video last year ? | 00:42 |
| GChriss | I provided streaming assistance in 2013 and 2015 | 00:43 |
| GChriss | https://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2013/spring/video-streaming-at-libreplanet-2013 | 00:43 |
| tpb | Title: Video streaming at LibrePlanet 2013 Free Software Foundation working together for free software (at www.fsf.org) | 00:43 |
| GChriss | and detailed setup: | 00:43 |
| GChriss | https://libreplanet.org/wiki/LibrePlanet:Conference/2015/Streaming | 00:43 |
| GChriss | lots of GStreamer and <video> elements | 00:44 |
| mithro | GChriss: I don't see any way to capture the presentation stream there? | 00:45 |
| mithro | GChriss: also, who are you more generally (rather then related to the conference)? :-P | 00:45 |
| * mithro is terrible with names / people / remembering things in general | 00:46 | |
| GChriss | we had grabbed original slide decks, but yes, capture with an extended pipeline would have been a good idea. had been somewhat rushed last year | 00:46 |
| CarlFK | GChriss: you and I have talked before about this right? I'm a good friend of cwebber if that helps | 00:47 |
| GChriss | we've chatted online, and I've met cwebber yes | 00:47 |
| CarlFK | if grabbed means "got a copy of the files" .. thats not what we mean. | 00:47 |
| GChriss | scroll down for 'George Chriss' ==> https://libreplanet.org/2016/program/speakers.html | 00:48 |
| tpb | Title: LibrePlanet Speakers (at libreplanet.org) | 00:48 |
| CarlFK | GChriss: have you seen http://hdmi2usb.tv ? | 00:48 |
| GChriss | I have! it's been a whille | 00:48 |
| CarlFK | who does AV for the event ? | 00:49 |
| mithro | GChriss: are you associated with the Elphel stuff in any way? | 00:49 |
| GChriss | only indirectly: I know the camera quite well as I've been using the 353L model for several years now | 00:50 |
| GChriss | and I've been prototyping a functional replacement | 00:50 |
| GChriss | CarlFK: re A/V: the FSF has tech sysadmins, so that would be Lisa Marie Maginnis @ http://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/ | 00:52 |
| tpb | Title: Staff and Board Free Software Foundation working together for free software (at www.fsf.org) | 00:52 |
| GChriss | Stephen Mahood (same page) was on the sysadmin team last year and was also involved, but has transitioned to another role in the organization | 00:53 |
| GChriss | but may still be involved? not sure | 00:53 |
| GChriss | I'm based in South Florida | 00:55 |
| mithro | Hrm, no h01ger in this channel | 00:57 |
| mithro | apparently he is presenting at LibrePlanet | 00:57 |
| GChriss | also, I expecting that Ring (see ring.cx) will be featured at the conference. fully decentralized, cross-platform GPLv3, encrypted video chat + messaging | 00:57 |
| GChriss | yes, he is presenting on deterministic software builds | 00:58 |
| GChriss | and looking forward to meeting him (I've about debconf for a while now; they're scheduled for Quebec in 2017 so may be able to attend) | 00:59 |
| mithro | GChriss: any idea how https://media.libreplanet.org/u/zakkai/m/javascript-if-you-love-it-set-it-free-54ab/ was done? | 00:59 |
| tpb | Title: JavaScript: if you love it, set it free GNU MediaGoblin (at media.libreplanet.org) | 00:59 |
| mithro | GChriss: or https://media.libreplanet.org/u/wtheaker/m/your-web-apps-should-talk-not-just-in-english-7c5d/ | 01:00 |
| tpb | Title: Your Web apps should talk not just in English - Sucheta Ghoshal GNU MediaGoblin (at media.libreplanet.org) | 01:00 |
| GChriss | yes, or at least for FOSDEM 2016. it's largely dedicated hardware ($) + streaming software that's only partially free | 01:01 |
| GChriss | but I also enjoyed watching the sessions | 01:02 |
| GChriss | see https://github.com/FOSDEM/videobox | 01:02 |
| tpb | Title: GitHub - FOSDEM/videobox: FOSDEM video gear box (at github.com) | 01:02 |
| GChriss | and do an image search for 'FOSDEM videobox' | 01:03 |
| mithro | GChriss: A couple of quick questions | 01:04 |
| GChriss | sure | 01:04 |
| mithro | (a) Do you know the organizers of libreplanet well enough that you could put us in contact with them about getting you guys some better videos? | 01:05 |
| GChriss | yes, qualified with a note that they have special requirements (e.g., machines that use libreboot) | 01:06 |
| mithro | GChriss: maybe nothing will come from it, but it would be good to see if there is something we can do | 01:07 |
| GChriss | I agree! it's part of the panel description actually: "novel discussions" | 01:08 |
| mithro | (b) What do we need to figure out around the panel and by when? Is it just if it makes sense for me to be on it? (and then if so, the logistics?) | 01:08 |
| GChriss | I'll copy-and-paste the entire description | 01:08 |
| GChriss | at this point I'd like to start a shared etherpad on prospective questions/idea mapping to have everyone more or less on the same page in terms of what to expect | 01:09 |
| GChriss | for logistics it's possible but a bit unwieldy to have two remote participants but easier if you are indeed co-located with Silvia | 01:10 |
| GChriss | for a single link | 01:10 |
| mithro | GChriss: Etherpad would work | 01:11 |
| GChriss | and I'm happy to see the timvideos community represented however you feel is best to do so (e.g., if there's two major projects/aspects to timvideos, collectively, then two panelists would be OK) | 01:11 |
| mithro | okay | 01:12 |
| GChriss | "An 'intermediate' panel designed to provide a working overview of diversified libre media communities blended with per-project technical development updates, organizational adoption challenges, community-centric user-experience goals and other novel discussions regarding video production both generally and as it relates to conference video production (e.g., session recording and live-streaming)." | 01:12 |
| mithro | GChriss: why don't you start an Etherpad and dump the goals of the panel into that and share it with me | 01:12 |
| GChriss | yes, will start typing | 01:12 |
| mithro | GChriss: okay, can you also send an introduction email to the correct people to start a discussion around (a) with [email protected] (me, Tim 'mithro' Ansell) and [email protected] (Carl Karsten, carlfk here)? | 01:15 |
| mithro | GChriss: thanks for thinking of us! | 01:16 |
| GChriss | looking forward to this! | 01:17 |
| GChriss | and I'll be online for any questions and further discussion | 01:17 |
| mithro | GChriss: We are use to dealing with conferences and groups which have "unique" requirements around A/V | 01:17 |
| mithro | GChriss: your 100% welcome to hang around and idle in this channel | 01:17 |
| GChriss | yes, will do so | 01:17 |
| mithro | GChriss: oh, and we got into GSoC this year - so that is exciting too | 01:17 |
| mithro | heading to lunch | 01:18 |
| mithro | bblr | 01:18 |
| GChriss | I can say that the Software Freedom Conservancy is highly integrated w/ the FSF and LibrePlanet so I'm curious to see where that discussion goes | 01:18 |
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| CarlFK | GChriss: I am looking at buying motherboards for a portable recording streaming box. where is a good #chan to chat about what works with libreboot? | 01:28 |
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| xfxf | CarlFK: isn't there a wiki page detailing compatible chipsets/motherboards? | 01:46 |
| xfxf | i remember looking at it bunch of years back | 01:46 |
| CarlFK | I am looking for a #chan :p | 01:47 |
| xfxf | at a guess, #libreboot ? :) | 01:47 |
| CarlFK | there is a wiki, and it leaves me with qestions | 01:47 |
| xfxf | the channel is v full | 01:47 |
| xfxf | 118 people | 01:48 |
| GChriss | #coreboot | 01:48 |
| xfxf | the motherboards it lists are pretty old :/ | 01:48 |
| xfxf | age doesn't bother me more that they all seem core 2 duo era | 01:49 |
| xfxf | which is insufficient grunt | 01:49 |
| GChriss | hang on pulling up a link to a high-end system | 01:50 |
| xfxf | ta! | 01:50 |
| GChriss | https://raptorengineeringinc.com/TALOS/prerelease.php | 01:51 |
| tpb | Title: Raptor Engineering::Talos™ Secure Workstation (at raptorengineeringinc.com) | 01:51 |
| GChriss | and for what it's worth I have a coreboot Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H + Phenom II X4 955 | 01:52 |
| GChriss | which is a quad-core 3.2GHz setup, a few years old but with backup BIOS. there's a bug that I can only run slower CPUs w/ coreboot though | 01:53 |
| GChriss | also https://raptorengineeringinc.com/TALOS/power_advantages.php | 01:55 |
| tpb | Title: Raptor Engineering::Talos™ Secure Workstation (at raptorengineeringinc.com) | 01:55 |
| GChriss | note that coreboot is upstream from libreboot | 01:57 |
| GChriss | CarlFK: define portable? | 01:58 |
| CarlFK | GChriss: here or #coreboot ? | 01:58 |
| GChriss | your choice? libreboot maybe? | 01:58 |
| CarlFK | here is fine | 02:00 |
| CarlFK | http://www.gatorcases.com/p/39181-1436/grc-studio4go-w | 02:00 |
| CarlFK | something that will fit in a rack mount ... something | 02:01 |
| CarlFK | https://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/index.html#supported_workstations_x86amd has lots of "NOTE: This board is unsupported in libreboot 20150518" | 02:03 |
| tpb | Title: Hardware compatibility list (at libreboot.org) | 02:03 |
| CarlFK | "when I can pre-order a Talos" so not shipping any time soon right ? | 02:06 |
| GChriss | "NOTE: This board is unsupported..." appears to be a temporary thing, libreboot can be built from source with limited fuss | 02:07 |
| GChriss | for Talos I _think_ the GNU Guix team has a prototype? it's kinda a software build farm on steroids | 02:08 |
| GChriss | or at least they are interested | 02:08 |
| CarlFK | can you point me to an i7 board? | 02:09 |
| CarlFK | that I can buy | 02:09 |
| GChriss | GIGABYTE ga-b75m-d3h is supported in coreboot | 02:14 |
| GChriss | not sure about libreboot; it takes a lot of work per board to add support | 02:15 |
| GChriss | as there's typically very limited documentation | 02:15 |
| CarlFK | > they have special requirements (e.g., machines that use libreboot) | 02:16 |
| GChriss | on the laptop side the X201 is supported (i5) and is likely to be added to libreboot sometime soon | 02:16 |
| CarlFK | i'm trying to meet that requirement | 02:17 |
| GChriss | yup, an openly-acknowledged issue. RMS was almost ready to call for liberated fab facilities | 02:17 |
| CarlFK | and knowing all the requirements would be handy ;) | 02:17 |
| GChriss | X200 is the current standard, personally I use X201 (almost libreboot-able, maybe last one that can be added in the thinpad line) | 02:18 |
| GChriss | emmm, sitting down? it's a list | 02:18 |
| CarlFK | X200 is a laptop right ? | 02:18 |
| GChriss | correct | 02:18 |
| GChriss | no hyperthreading but it gets by | 02:19 |
| CarlFK | if it is similar to an i7 motheboard... I'll take 8 please ;) | 02:19 |
| GChriss | actually reminds me of that scene in Apollo 13 where the engineers duct-tape together an oxygen converter using like a box and old manual covers | 02:20 |
| GChriss | no binary blobs, only codec used by Xiph or VP8, open hardware to the extent possible, able to be generally replicated, three-room simultaneous streaming | 02:22 |
| GChriss | codecs* | 02:22 |
| GChriss | closed-source compilers count too | 02:22 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: lenovo X200's are the i5 laptops that LCA own - i.e. not fast enough for voctomix | 02:23 |
| xfxf | 1st gen i5 iirc | 02:23 |
| GChriss | sounds about right | 02:24 |
| CarlFK | http://www.microcenter.com/product/455453/GA-H170N-WIFI_LGA_1151_mITX_Intel_Motherboard | 02:26 |
| tpb | Title: Gigabyte GA-H170N-WIFI LGA 1151 mITX Intel Motherboard GA-H170N-WIFI - Micro Center (at www.microcenter.com) | 02:26 |
| CarlFK | is that ok? | 02:26 |
| tumbleweed | CarlFK: these are the only modern machines I know that run coreboot https://puri.sm/ | 02:34 |
| CarlFK | no desktops? | 02:35 |
| tumbleweed | oh, https://blogs.coreboot.org/ lists a bunch of other stuff | 02:36 |
| tpb | Title: coreboot News from coreboot world (at blogs.coreboot.org) | 02:36 |
| CarlFK | Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2L | 02:41 |
| CarlFK | wow, it has din? mouse and keyboard ports | 02:41 |
| CarlFK | and no hdmi | 02:41 |
| CarlFK | Intel Core 2 ... oh. | 02:42 |
| CarlFK | something tells me there is no i7 board that will work? | 02:46 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, from a glance, the modern things where underpowered chrome boxes | 02:47 |
| tumbleweed | and purism laptops | 02:47 |
| CarlFK | yay, DVswitch lives on :p | 02:49 |
| CarlFK | oh wait.. coreboot is not libreboot right? | 02:51 |
| tumbleweed | think of libreboot as a free fork of coreboot | 02:58 |
| tumbleweed | (which means more work) | 02:59 |
| tumbleweed | CarlFK: heh https://libreboot.org/faq/#librem | 03:01 |
| tpb | Title: Answers to Frequently Asked Questions about libreboot (at libreboot.org) | 03:01 |
| CarlFK | why does everyone want to talk to me about laptops? | 03:01 |
| tumbleweed | it's all everyone talks about these days | 03:03 |
| mithro | tumbleweed: what does "free fork" mean in this context? I thought the point of coreboot was to be "free"? | 03:05 |
| tumbleweed | see the link I just pasted | 03:06 |
| tumbleweed | coreboot doesn't try hard enough to be free, basically | 03:06 |
| tumbleweed | it includes non-free blobs | 03:06 |
| tumbleweed | libreboot aims to be blob-free | 03:07 |
| mithro | tumbleweed: I'm probably missing where it mentions that in the FAQ | 03:09 |
| tumbleweed | the last (ranty) paragraph of that section | 03:11 |
| tumbleweed | (and the whole intel section) | 03:11 |
| mithro | I think we should chat with the organisers a bit more first | 03:12 |
| mithro | https://libreboot.org/docs/index.html#why seems to give a reasonable explaination | 03:14 |
| tpb | Title: Libreboot project documentation (at libreboot.org) | 03:14 |
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| shenki | mithro: ping | 04:12 |
| mithro | shenki: pong | 04:12 |
| shenki | mithro: how do i add a new site to our letsencrypt setup? | 04:13 |
| mithro | shenki: add the apache config then run something in ~letsencrypt I think | 04:13 |
| shenki | k | 04:14 |
| shenki | hrm, didn't work | 04:22 |
| shenki | mithro: do you want to try runing it? you have a better idea of what these errors mean than i | 04:26 |
| mithro | What are you trying to run? | 04:26 |
| mithro | Did you look at what cron runs? | 04:26 |
| shenki | /home/letsencrypt/simp_le/run.sh | 04:28 |
| shenki | no | 04:28 |
| shenki | mithro: where do i find what cron runs? | 04:34 |
| mithro | su to the letsencrypt user | 04:34 |
| mithro | then crontab -e | 04:34 |
| shenki | sudo su letsencrypt - | 04:35 |
| shenki | whoami | 04:35 |
| shenki | joel | 04:35 |
| shenki | wtf? | 04:35 |
| shenki | mithro: i give up | 04:42 |
| mithro | shenki: sudo su letsencrypt -s /bin/bash | 04:42 |
| shenki | oh. no shell configured? | 04:43 |
| shenki | mithro: right, so cron runs the script that i ran | 04:43 |
| mithro | shenki: yeah | 04:44 |
| shenki | mithro: not sure what's going on. it looks like it's not asking for anything to be updated | 04:50 |
| shenki | 2016-03-02 04:45:36,425:INFO:root:380: 10 | 04:50 |
| shenki | 2016-03-02 04:45:36,426:INFO:root:381: [] | 04:50 |
| shenki | 2016-03-02 04:45:36,426:INFO:root:383: [False, False, False, False, False, False, True, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, False, False] | 04:50 |
| shenki | Traceback (most recent call last): | 04:50 |
| shenki | File "/home/letsencrypt/simp_le/venv/bin/simp_le", line 9, in <module> | 04:50 |
| shenki | load_entry_point('simp-le', 'console_scripts', 'simp_le')() | 04:50 |
| shenki | File "/home/letsencrypt/simp_le/simp_le.py", line 874, in main | 04:50 |
| shenki | raise SystemExit(_main(cli_args)) | 04:50 |
| shenki | File "/home/letsencrypt/simp_le/simp_le.py", line 867, in _main | 04:50 |
| shenki | _new_data(args) | 04:50 |
| shenki | File "/home/letsencrypt/simp_le/simp_le.py", line 812, in _new_data | 04:51 |
| shenki | certr, _ = client.poll_and_request_issuance(csr, authorizations.values()) | 04:51 |
| shenki | File "/home/letsencrypt/simp_le/venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/acme/client.py", line 387, in poll_and_request_issuance | 04:51 |
| shenki | raise errors.PollError(waiting, updated) | 04:51 |
| shenki | acme.errors.PollError: PollError | 04:51 |
| shenki | that second log message is the list of things that need to be auth'd | 04:51 |
| mithro | shenki: Can you access the http version of the website which has the ACME verification request thingy | 04:51 |
| shenki | mithro: yeah | 04:59 |
| shenki | mithro: i will disable the 302 | 04:59 |
| mithro | shenki: take a look at my ones | 04:59 |
| mithro | shenki: you just basically ignore that path | 04:59 |
| shenki | mithro: will they work for the case where the site never had a valid https cert? | 05:07 |
| mithro | shenki: what do you mean? | 05:08 |
| shenki | mithro: i set up this site by copy-pasting the config from another site we had, so it had an invalid cert | 05:10 |
| shenki | mithro: because it was serving up the exisitng cert, which isn't valid for that new domain | 05:10 |
| mithro | I think you'll need to comment out the SSL site for the first steps? | 05:11 |
| shenki | mithro: nvm, as i turnedoff the 301 rewrite that sends everything to https | 05:11 |
| shenki | yeah | 05:11 |
| shenki | its' still blowing up | 05:11 |
| mithro | Can you paste the output somewhere? | 05:18 |
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| shenki | mithro: i emailed it to yoy | 05:54 |
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| mithro | shenki: I don't think I've seen "2016-03-02 05:51:36,408:DEBUG:acme.challenges:35: dns-01 was not recognized, full message: {u'status': u'pending', u'token': u'AL5FhDEttwGxXw6Qp5edRNxWheCopoNccPZCBPfZhGU', u'type': u'dns-01', u'uri': u'https://acme-v01.api.letsencrypt.org/acme/challenge/Qcohr4_3rAOlt7vwl_x7QPUSe3WawB8OTUQpenr9YoM/21631179'}" before | 06:02 |
| mithro | ha - I just noticed the name of your new domain :P | 06:02 |
| mithro | shenki: and I can't see anything on the web about what "dns-01" message means | 06:06 |
| mithro | The dns-01 challenge is an implementation of a DNS-only domain validation from the ACME spec. If you've ever added some bits to a domain's DNS records for another CA's domain validation, it works similarly. | 06:08 |
| mithro | actually, I think that is a red herring | 06:11 |
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| shenki | ok | 06:16 |
| mithro | CarlFK / xfxf: See http://www.vitrivr.com/vitrivr.html at all before? | 06:19 |
| tpb | Title: vitrivr (at www.vitrivr.com) | 06:19 |
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| mithro | xfxf: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bB33UFHyr9d99QpACAnbkGaO0BqV3F6t2xPLW2t4xPg/edit# | 06:30 |
| tpb | Title: Google Docs - create and edit documents online, for free. (at docs.google.com) | 06:30 |
| mithro | Well, I now have a list of other GSoC orgs we should be reaching out too https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15odmVLyKuOmgFCJ9KL8A7jyrccQCr4PDlXhrR_f4_ss/edit#gid=1137310765 | 06:32 |
| tpb | Title: TimVideos GSoC Organisations to Collaborate with - Google Sheets (at docs.google.com) | 06:32 |
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| xfxf | mithro: i already responded on that doc, note the Ryan: bits | 11:48 |
| xfxf | and re the vitrivr thing, no, haven't seen that | 13:08 |
| xfxf | seen similar products though | 13:08 |
| xfxf | erk, Scala/Java | 13:09 |
| xfxf | i tried to like Scala but the stacktraces are frightening | 13:10 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: what yoga did you have? | 13:30 |
| xfxf | was it an i3? | 13:30 |
| xfxf | http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-Yoga-12-5-FHD-1920x1080-Touch-Intel-i3-4030U-4GB-SSHD-500GB-/222039064268? | 13:30 |
| tpb | Title: Lenovo Yoga 12 5`` FHD 1920x1080 Touch Intel® I3 4030U 4GB SSHD 500GB | eBay (at www.ebay.com.au) | 13:30 |
| xfxf | similar to that? | 13:30 |
| CarlFK | I have an i7 Twist | 13:37 |
| CarlFK | xfxf: Sheila has a yoga | 13:38 |
| xfxf | how much did you pick yours up for? | 13:39 |
| xfxf | trying to find a decent enough i5 or i7 laptop that'll work for recording single room events that'll double as a nice video hacking laptop | 13:39 |
| xfxf | i bought an asus laptop but the screen and keyboard are terrible | 13:40 |
| xfxf | so lenovo is an obvious choice | 13:40 |
| xfxf | the asus keyboard doesn't properly register key presses sometimes so you end up with missing characters when writing code, grade a irritating | 13:40 |
| CarlFK | the yoga is nice - 2 ssd slots, 8gig ram | 13:40 |
| xfxf | cheap keyboards for you i guess | 13:40 |
| xfxf | what res is yours? FHD? | 13:41 |
| thaytan | xfxf, you saw my (slightly damaged) HP Spectre at LCA | 13:41 |
| thaytan | it's a dual-core i7 | 13:41 |
| xfxf | thaytan: lol, is yours for sale? :P | 13:41 |
| xfxf | how's the keyboard on that? | 13:41 |
| thaytan | like it's been copied from a mac air | 13:42 |
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| xfxf | oh, nice. i like mac keyboards | 13:42 |
| xfxf | just trying to do linux video related things inside of a virtualbox VM on OS X is slightly suboptimal :) | 13:42 |
| thaytan | xfxf, the main downside (with this model) is they put an 256GB M.2 SSD in | 13:42 |
| xfxf | part of my criteria will be 3.5" SSD/HDD mount | 13:43 |
| CarlFK | my flip is 1366x768 | 13:43 |
| thaytan | xfxf: in a laptop? | 13:43 |
| xfxf | i have a 2TB HDD i'd like to put into it | 13:43 |
| xfxf | oh, sorry, 2.5" | 13:43 |
| xfxf | ha 3.5" | 13:43 |
| thaytan | oh, then no ultrabook for you | 13:43 |
| xfxf | yeah, happy with non-ultrabook | 13:43 |
| xfxf | needs enough storage for video capture :) | 13:43 |
| thaytan | try a Dell XPS15 | 13:44 |
| xfxf | mm, developers are happy with the keyboards on them? | 13:44 |
| thaytan | ask __tim in #gstreamer :) | 13:44 |
| CarlFK | twist has room for spinny, but it is thin: 7mm | 13:44 |
| thaytan | or you could have checked out Jaime's at LCA | 13:44 |
| CarlFK | and 500 g is the largests spinny I could find. but $400 for a 1T ssd in the ssd slot wich is plenty for 1 room | 13:45 |
| xfxf | i bought a 2gb the other day | 13:45 |
| xfxf | and yeah a 1tb ssd was my next option, but they're a bit more over here | 13:46 |
| xfxf | 2gb spinny disk for the usage is fine, the keyboard has meant i don't use the asus though | 13:46 |
| CarlFK | I'll trade you ssd for vegemite | 13:46 |
| xfxf | which is disencouraging me from hacking on hdmi2usb things currently, so it'd be good to fix :) | 13:46 |
| xfxf | lol, deal | 13:46 |
| CarlFK | also here something that took me by surprise: usb3 + ssd = rsync from 4 spinny usb disks as fast as the spinnys can get the data off - no bottle neck at the target | 13:47 |
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| xfxf | yeah usb3+ssd indeed pretty quick, i have a 160gb ssd in a usb3 enclosure for fast big data transfer | 13:48 |
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| vinayb21 | hi | 18:49 |
| CarlFK | hi | 18:51 |
| vinayb21 | i am good in python and have recently done projects on ipython and jupyter , so which kind of projects will be suitable for me? | 18:53 |
| GChriss | vinayb21: one of the projects I haven't found time for is transitioning from command-line gstreamer gst-launch commands (a rapid prototyping tool) to a user-friendly gui version of the same | 19:00 |
| GChriss | https://wiki.xiph.org/GST_cookbook | 19:00 |
| tpb | Title: GST cookbook - XiphWiki (at wiki.xiph.org) | 19:00 |
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| CarlFK | https://store.digilentinc.com/atlys-spartan-6-fpga-trainer-board-limited-time-see-nexys-video/ I can't find physical stuff, like spacing between the mounting holes | 19:43 |
| tpb | Title: Atlys Spartan-6 FPGA Trainer Board (LIMITED TIME) >> see Nexys Video - Digilent (at store.digilentinc.com) | 19:43 |
| CarlFK | anyone know if such a thing exists? | 19:43 |
| CarlFK | Digilent "support" give me a cannded response: " the forum is the place for resolving technical questions such as this." | 19:43 |
| GChriss | CarlFK: do you mean cases or board interconnects? | 20:01 |
| CarlFK | GChriss: case - like the locations of the 4 holes in the board that have stand offs screwed into them | 20:03 |
| GChriss | yeah, no mention at all | 20:14 |
| GChriss | you could probably get an accurate estimation by measuring the pixel distance and comparing to mounted usb header (a standard size) | 20:16 |
| CarlFK | Hmm | 20:32 |
| CarlFK | I think I will use the board - put some chewing gum in about the right place, cover with plastic wrap, push the stand offs into it and whack the dent with a center punch | 20:35 |
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