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| xfxf | CarlFK: i hope you're joking about the chewing gum :) at least a hot glue gun if you're wanting to dodgy it | 00:10 |
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| xfxf | tis what i used for my atlys case | 00:10 |
| CarlFK | xfxf: i want to mark where to drill | 00:13 |
| CarlFK | but I don't have gum, so I may use ... vegemite? | 00:13 |
| xfxf | vegemite sadly isn't the answer to everything | 00:41 |
| shenki | /kick xfxf blasphemy! | 01:07 |
| CarlFK | lol | 01:08 |
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| mithro | CarlFK: I have documents which show the mechanical stuff of an Atlys | 03:32 |
| CarlFK | mithro: next day or two will be handy | 03:32 |
| CarlFK | mithro: I pulled apart a 10/100 rack mount switch has a nice little power supply. prolly 5v somewhere :p | 03:33 |
| mithro | CarlFK: if you connect something other then 5V to the Atlys you will have a dead atlys | 03:35 |
| CarlFK | yeah, I'll be at ps1 and get some expert advice before I blow it up | 03:36 |
| thaytan | if only there were ways to measure voltages before connecting them :( | 03:41 |
| Joelw | Mmm, tingly tongue | 03:55 |
| xfxf | CarlFK: i ponder whether you could use a PoE switch to power devices | 04:17 |
| CarlFK | xfxf: I thought about that, but I think that only makes sense if there is wall power handy | 04:18 |
| CarlFK | er | 04:18 |
| xfxf | oh, part of your plan is to battery power everything? | 04:18 |
| CarlFK | doesn't make sense | 04:18 |
| CarlFK | no | 04:18 |
| CarlFK | the board will be near other things that need power too | 04:19 |
| CarlFK | Camera, presenter's laptop, PA system... | 04:19 |
| CarlFK | as long as we are running power and hooking up power boards, poe isn't going to matter | 04:20 |
| xfxf | well, more that you could use a PoE splitter to feed the front devices with power | 04:24 |
| xfxf | and run a single ethernet cable from front > back | 04:25 |
| xfxf | the only caveat there is the ingest machine for the hdmi2usb, but that could potentially be something that takes <20W | 04:25 |
| xfxf | https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/gstreamer-commits/2013-March/070056.html | 04:26 |
| tpb | Title: gst-omx: rpi: Add MJPEG decoder (at lists.freedesktop.org) | 04:26 |
| xfxf | interesting, that looks like there's a hardware MJPEG decoder in the rpi | 04:26 |
| xfxf | supported by gst | 04:26 |
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| xfxf | CarlFK: i've also been pondering something like a boundary mic that plugs into the device at the front, and some sw to manage volume appropriately | 04:28 |
| xfxf | so you unpack the box at the front, pull out the boundary mic with a few metres of cable on it and place it on an appropriate flat surface near the speaker | 04:28 |
| xfxf | may be 'good enough' for small rooms | 04:28 |
| xfxf | boundary mics are commonly used in VC rooms anyway | 04:29 |
| mithro | xfxf: I think we just want box we blonk down on the podium, the boundary mic could be mounted in the top of that? | 04:29 |
| xfxf | mithro: you want it directly on a table - the way they work is the device they sit on effectively becomes an entire mic | 04:29 |
| xfxf | you'd get much worse results on it being on a box | 04:30 |
| xfxf | again, might be OK, assuming this is designed for LUG's and such, not fully blown conferences | 04:30 |
| xfxf | i would strongly suggest there are several different targets | 04:30 |
| xfxf | i.e. conference versus small event | 04:30 |
| CarlFK | also I want the closed up box to be somewhat rugged | 04:30 |
| mithro | CarlFK: yes | 04:30 |
| xfxf | mithro: i'm intending on trying the above for my local python/django LUG in the next couple of weeks | 04:31 |
| xfxf | it appears i'm also working on trying to simplify a kit independently too | 04:31 |
| xfxf | i want to be able to give some stuff to the local group to try recording without me there | 04:31 |
| xfxf | but need to prototype the setup + prove it works first | 04:32 |
| mithro | xfxf: so, I should be doing other things now - but I wanted to say the big problem with the "kits" is that they are "kits". If inventorying things was "there are two boxes, and two cables" then things would be much simpler | 04:32 |
| xfxf | yeah i get that, don't disagree there | 04:32 |
| xfxf | i still think this is part of a bigger set of complicated problems though | 04:33 |
| xfxf | but this is a bigger discussion, i too should be doing other things now :) | 04:33 |
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| mithro | xfxf: I think anything more than about 5 "parts" for a room is too much | 04:34 |
| xfxf | ya, but i still think there are two distinct targets here | 04:35 |
| xfxf | one self contained kit which works on its own without interfacing to existing room PA | 04:35 |
| xfxf | and the other for conferences which by definition will be more complex due to every venue being different | 04:35 |
| xfxf | the latter can be automated/simplified more, but that's a much bigger problem to solve then standardising kits | 04:35 |
| mithro | xfxf: so, that gives you - "box at podium", "box at camera location", power cable, networking cable, microphone | 04:35 |
| xfxf | i also wanted to talk to you about the implications of having a 'closed' box too at some point | 04:36 |
| mithro | xfxf: What is the one sentance summary? | 04:37 |
| xfxf | more that there are some incompatibilities between us trying to intice more people into this project to hack on things, and having a 'closed' box people aren't allowed to pull apart | 04:37 |
| CarlFK | I want to make a box and see how much I want to pull it apart ;) | 04:41 |
| mithro | xfxf: My thought is, by having a box that people can start getting results from without having to understand everything is a good way to start getting involved. It also makes it easier to ship people kits for temporary periods so they don't need to buy stuff. | 04:42 |
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| CarlFK | My thought is, hooking stuff up on site bothers me ;) | 04:57 |
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| mithro | Dammit CarlFK, why can't your country get its act together and use meters like everyone else? | 05:16 |
| CarlFK | I wish that too | 05:17 |
| mithro | And why doesn't monoprice have colored DisplayPort cables? :( | 05:18 |
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| mithro | I think I'm going to have to get the spray paint out | 05:43 |
| mithro | CarlFK / xfxf: Do you know if we had any of http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=109&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011012&p_id=8120&seq=1&format=2 at the hackfest? | 05:44 |
| CarlFK | mithro: doesn't look familiar. | 05:46 |
| mithro | CarlFK: would you mind getting one and testing it with your Opsis board? | 05:46 |
| CarlFK | mithro: sure. | 05:48 |
| CarlFK | im off to bed - see ya tomorrow | 05:49 |
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| xfxf | mithro: no, didn't have one | 05:51 |
| mithro | Bertl: the HDMI IC you are using to do the LVDS to HDMI conversion (and equalization) - do you have the "reverse" version? | 05:51 |
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