Tuesday, 2016-03-01

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mithroIt TOFE00:16
mithroNot tofie nor tofi00:17
mithroxfxf: I'm putting you on charge of getting any voctomix related projects into the ideas tracker00:18
xfxfokay, sure - explain what i need to do there.  talk to the vocto guys and find out what they need?00:19
mithroS/on/in/00:19
xfxfMaZderMind: i assume you'll be useful here :)00:19
mithroFigure out what needs to be done and could form a project00:19
mithroFill out the idea template in suitable detail00:20
CarlFKunit tests00:20
mithroxfxf: need to find suitable mentors to, MaZderMind has already said he can't mentor.00:21
xfxfwhen does GSoC start00:22
xfxf?00:22
CarlFKsummer :p00:22
mithroDoesn't really matter, GSoC students will start turning up from now00:23
mithroLike 15 March00:23
xfxfnot confident i can do that in the next two weeks00:31
xfxfunless MaZderMind has suggestions for other mentors00:31
xfxfi have intention of getting my hands dirty on the code but i'm practically only a user of the sw at the moment00:31
xfxfwell, have poked a bit and changed some things, but early days00:32
mithrohttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WD8-rkVY-AQdtiHD5a2noKDFf4zl852wBPFQnBOklj4/edit#gid=000:36
tpbTitle: TimVideos GSoC Ideas needing fleshing out - Google Sheets (at docs.google.com)00:36
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mithro~seen hyades00:54
tpbmithro: hyades was last seen in #timvideos 43 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 9 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <hyades> MaZderMind: yea I remember a thread00:54
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mithroBTW GSoC timeline is at https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline01:24
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CarlFKmithro: what do you think of something like this for the Opsis http://www.ebay.com/itm/R-L-Drake-DRMM4-Rack-Mount-Chasis-w-12-5-Volt-Power-Supply-/182036036866?hash=item2a62317d02:g:DI4AAOSwx-9Wz8RR01:36
tpbTitle: R L Drake DRMM4 Rack Mount Chasis w 12 5 Volt Power Supply | eBay (at www.ebay.com)01:36
mithroCarlFK: I don't think it is worth the extra time required to make it useful01:37
CarlFKextra time - to drill mounting holes and carve out the front?01:41
CarlFKI was more thinking of does it have enough power and didn't tell you I want to run other stuff too... which I would have to look up the requirements for so this quesition kinda falls apart01:42
mithroCarlFK: yes, and to make face plates and stuff01:42
xfxfon my seemingly never ending TODO list is to make up a stl for 3d printers for the hdmi2usb01:49
xfxfi bought a 3d printer almost entirely to do that01:49
CarlFKI want to mount a ton of stuff into a 4u box: http://www.gatorcases.com/p/39201-904/gr-4l02:03
mithroCarlFK: considered something like http://www.gatorcases.com/p/39181-1436/grc-studio4go-w ?02:04
CarlFKOpsis, 2 mic receivers, ethernet switch, i7 motherboard, vga/hdmi converters, hdmi extender,02:05
CarlFKmithro: yes02:05
CarlFKmithro: I'm hoping for 2 boxes: 1 near the podium, one near the main camera02:06
mithroCarlFK: I'm thinking that a "room kit" would consist of two cases - something like that studio case for the camera part, and something like the one you posted near / inside the podium02:06
CarlFKcamear one will have a top mounted mixer  like that02:06
CarlFKbingo02:06
mithroCarlFK: sounds like we are on the same page :)02:06
CarlFKyeah02:06
CarlFKin the last year I have come to the conclusion it is easier to bring everything I might need than try to plan ahead and adapt to what I am told is in the room02:07
mithroCarlFK: I know it is a pretty big ask, but it would be really nice if we could try and use as much "off the shelf" stuff as possible so that we can reproduce it02:07
CarlFKthere is something to be said for that02:07
CarlFKmithro: what are your thoughts of a central power supply for Opsis, mb, disk, wireless receivers,  vga converters, hdmi extenders02:08
CarlFKinstead of each device having its own power supply02:09
mithroI'm unsure if you could get a single central power supply for all that - but I do think you could do it with probably 1 or 2 supplies02:09
mithroI do think you should have 1 x 240V power going into the box02:10
CarlFKme too - let me know when google runs 240v over fiber :p02:13
tumbleweeddon't get caught up on details. A few power supplies behind a single socket = one power supply :)02:14
CarlFKtumbleweed: they take up space and weight02:15
CarlFKbut yeah...02:16
tumbleweedthey do. But audio kit needs nice clean power, so a few PSUs is not unexpected02:16
tumbleweedand it makes swapping things easier02:16
mithrohttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1SQgk6YQ1OOLJr3UUv69BEfgyHWQQOZjNuGk4rXjH6QA/edit#02:20
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mithroCarlFK: I moved your voctomix stuff into the "Ideas to flesh out" spreadsheet02:26
CarlFKmithro: where's that?02:27
mithroCarlFK: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WD8-rkVY-AQdtiHD5a2noKDFf4zl852wBPFQnBOklj4/edit#gid=002:27
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CarlFKrawr.. this is about the only rack mount power strip that has outlets on both sides:02:32
CarlFKhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Perma-Power-Rackmount-Plug-In-Outlet-Center-19-inch-Black-Grey-J24B2B-BG-/271565185064?hash=item3f3a8be028:g:WugAAOSwxH1T3Bzd02:32
tpbTitle: Perma Power Rackmount Plug in Outlet Center 19 inch Black Grey J24B2B BG | eBay (at www.ebay.com)02:32
CarlFK2 outside, 4 inside02:32
mithroCarlFK: there are plenty like that02:34
mithroCarlFK: probably want to look at ones which have screw terminals though02:34
CarlFKscrew terminals ?02:34
mithroCarlFK: lets you screw the power cables down02:35
CarlFKthis must be an Australian thing ;)02:35
CarlFKha, found one with 10 outlets on each side.  yay.02:36
CarlFK$50.  lighted switch too.02:36
mithroCarlFK: not necessarily a good thing - people might plug random things into your box :P02:37
CarlFKyeah - I have conceded to have a place for the presenter to plug their laptop into.02:37
mithroCarlFK: yeah, I wonder if having a small UPS in the box is worth doing02:40
CarlFKmithro: iv pondered that too.  I think it is too heavy02:40
mithroCarlFK: I guess if you are shipping via air, that matters....02:41
CarlFKif I am caring it back and forth from my car and my arm gets tired :p02:42
mithroCarlFK: put it on wheels man02:51
CarlFKLOL02:51
mithroCarrying things is for suckers02:51
CarlFKhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/9-Outlet-Rack-Mount-Power-Supply-Strip-DJ-Band-Equipment-Power-Outlet-15-Amp-Hub-/201221491703?hash=item2ed9bc4bf7:g:C9MAAOSwiCRUa6P702:54
CarlFKlike this one02:54
CarlFKUS $53.5002:54
CarlFKthis one has serious bling http://www.amazon.com/Technical-Pro-Decibel-Display-Outlet/dp/B00OC4J14603:02
mithroCarlFK: if you go ultra fancy, you can get each of the power points individually controllable03:04
CarlFKi've seen, not sure that's a good ting03:04
CarlFKmithro: how does this look for the Opsis http://www.ebay.com/itm/1U-Full-Length-Rackmount-ATX-Micro-ATX-ITX-Chassis-with-Redundant-Power-PSU-/141886033486?hash=item2109110e4e:g:TSoAAOSw-zxWpN6D03:08
tpbTitle: 1U Full Length Rackmount ATX (at www.ebay.com)03:08
CarlFKhmm. I bet it is longer than I want03:08
CarlFKyeah never midn03:08
CarlFKmind03:08
mithroCarlFK: way too big03:09
mithroCarlFK: what is the problem with the Inset cases? They are the same form factor as wireless microphones03:10
CarlFKmithro: no power supply, and I bet the vga card won't fit03:11
mithroCarlFK: but you were suggesting powering the whole kit from a single supply?03:11
CarlFKmithro: maybe - I haven't found that yet03:12
mithroCarlFK: there is also space inside that case to mount a power supply03:21
CarlFKmithro: URL?03:23
mithroCarlFK: for?03:23
CarlFKmithro: URL of a power supply that will fit03:23
mithroCarlFK: dunno, I have a bunch lying around which should work but no reliable supplier03:23
xfxfwhat CarlFK says03:25
xfxfi'm yet to see the power supplies that fit03:25
xfxfhence just getting wallwarts for half of them03:25
mithroxfxf: they definitely exist03:26
xfxfi don't doubt you, i just haven't seen them so can't buy them03:26
mithroSewar: ping?03:49
mithroxfxf: take a look at carl's suggestions at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WD8-rkVY-AQdtiHD5a2noKDFf4zl852wBPFQnBOklj4/edit#gid=158929374803:53
tpbTitle: TimVideos GSoC Ideas needing fleshing out - Google Sheets (at docs.google.com)03:53
mithrobe back later03:58
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mithroxfxf / CarlFK: Did you guys ever contact that women we where talking to at the Penguin Dinner?07:14
mithrohey tija!07:16
mithroCarlFK / xfxf: you both have one of Rohit's VGA boards too, right?07:19
mithroI think we might have to rename our project to AAATimVideos :P07:28
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tijahey mithro!08:12
mithrotija: how are things? What you up to these days?08:12
tijamithro: Everything is good down here. Working for a startup, so lots of work but yeah it is interesting.08:14
mithrotija: doing hardware / FPGA stuff or something else?08:17
tijamithro: yes we are using fpga to accelerate datacenters. www.reniac.com08:17
tijamithro: how are things at your end. I see that you used hdmi2usb to capture LCA.08:20
mithrotija: yes, using the MiSoC based firmware08:20
tijamithro: are we able to capture 1080p?08:21
mithroNo, 720p3008:21
tijaCool! Going forward, we are going to support only Opsis?08:23
mithroWe'll support the Atlys for at least another year or two08:24
mithroThe Opsis and Atlys are close enough that supporting both makes a lot of sense08:25
tijaPlans for zybo, novena?08:25
mithroProbably the miniSpartan6+ will be the next device which does something useful - but that will never be a "full" capture board08:26
mithro_florent_ has a Nexys Video which replaces the Atlys board in Digilent's line up08:26
mithroI have one too08:26
mithroso, at some point we'll bring that up08:27
mithroIt's an Artix-7 board08:27
mithroSo that will be interesting08:43
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CarlFKmithro: I do have a Rohit's VGA board13:26
CarlFKthat woman - guessing you mean VM Brasseur <[email protected]>  - and yes13:28
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skayCarlFK: mithro: I posted about the project on a mailing list at work. maybe you will get more applicants and mentors14:44
skayI hope you like ubuntu people14:45
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neeraj_Can someone help me building environment for timvideos?18:29
CarlFKneeraj_: maybe. there are lots of projects, what are you interested in?18:29
neeraj_Shouldn't I firstly download the source code?18:30
neeraj_Or it is different for different projects?18:31
neeraj_CalfFK: Should I chose project first and then build up, regarding to that project?18:33
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neeraj_CarlFK: I am more comfortable in working in C programming language. So I opened the C projects in which I find  [HDMI2USB] bug of my interest. So can you guide me regarding this project. url for the project-"https://github.com/timvideos/getting-started/issues/31"18:49
CarlFKneeraj_: that one is for hardware.  If you don't have the hardware, it is going to be hard to test18:50
neeraj_CarlFK: is there any project in C which can be done without hardware?18:51
neeraj_CarlFK: is [HDMI2USB] is also related to hardware? url : "https://github.com/timvideos/getting-started/issues/32"18:52
CarlFKhttps://hdmi2usb.tv  you should read that18:53
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mithroCarlFK: could you get the pdp7 "social media machine" to help get the word out about doing open hardware / FPGA stuff in GSoC with TimVideos?21:56
CarlFKmithro: sure21:57
CarlFKmithro: where is a URL about "qemu for ia32" or whatever the soft core cpu is ?21:58
mithrolm32 - see the "ideas which need fleshing out" spreadsheet for some links with info, but it has gotten into the ideas list yet22:00
CarlFKah.  I knew I saw it somewhere22:01
mithroBe back in an hour22:10
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