Thursday, 2018-01-25

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keeperalca_collab computer is warning about free space.00:07
videoteamack00:07
tumbleweedit's nothing serious, yet00:08
tumbleweed69% /srv/video00:08
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CarlFK[m]> @appservice-irc:matrix.org made future room history visible to all room members, from the point they joined.00:17
CarlFK[m]future room history ?00:18
lcaav_mediumcan we get a check on sound levels; i think the presenter has knocked their mic00:19
vys[m]videoteam: ^00:20
videoteamits fine00:20
lcaav_mediumk, thx00:20
videoteambeen listening often00:20
videoteamnps00:20
lcaav_guthrievideoteam, Speakers laptop isnt being detected by the projector00:41
lcaav_guthriexfxf ^00:41
videoteamuh00:42
lcaav_guthrieappears to be fixed now00:43
tumbleweed:)00:43
videoteam~*~magic~*~00:43
xfxfunplugging and replugging will often fix that00:44
wcmckeelcaav_greathall: ping me on here before text/phone. everything seems fine currently.00:55
lcaav_greathallwcmckee, noted00:55
blahdeblahvideoteam: Is there any way we can get room volume up in green room?  Everyone here thought the speaker wasn't on, even though we have the volume slightly higher than usual because it's a little low.01:04
blahdeblah(because it's a little low on the speaker's torso, that is)01:05
xfxfyou can't adjust the volumes at front?01:05
blahdeblahThere's no master volume01:05
blahdeblah(That I could find.)01:05
xfxfwhat happens if you put the mic.up?01:05
blahdeblahDistorts in recording01:06
blahdeblahI'll have another poke at control panel after talk01:06
xfxfAs in red in vocto or it sounds distorted?01:07
blahdeblahWhen I last listened, it would slightly distort if it got into the yellow regularly01:08
blahdeblahNot unlistenable then though01:08
blahdeblahIf it gets into red it's pretty unlistenable01:08
xfxfright, I can fix that. When's your next break?01:09
blahdeblah12:2501:09
xfxfI'll come over01:09
blahdeblahNot a huge deal - people are being pretty good about it, but I'd really like to get some slight in-room amplification01:10
xfxfwe can fix it - important to make sure delegates experience is ood01:11
xfxfgood*01:11
lcaav_mediumTalk has endend 10 minutes early (just an FYI)01:16
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lcaav_greengreen: improved room, isn't amazing, but better01:48
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xfxfARE THINGS ON FIRE Y/N02:33
vys[m]Zero fire in green02:33
lcaav_largepodN02:34
lcaav_largepodaircon sucks in here though02:34
lcaav_mediumN02:34
lcaav_guthrieN02:35
lcaav_collabNo02:36
lcaav_collablcav_largepod: Have you turned on the aircon switch on the wall?02:36
lcaav_collabIf you have one.02:36
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lcaav_largepodlcaav_collab, yeah, it just sucks02:40
vys[m]That blows02:45
videoteamthat just not cool :(02:50
lcaav_greenI see what you did there02:50
lcaav_largepodour audio is a bit crap cause the session chair forgot to turn off the lectern. dont think its bad enough to justify interrupting him though02:55
videoteamif he takes a step back, jump in and do it02:55
lcaav_largepodack02:55
videoteamor drop to pure slide and sneak in02:56
xfxflcaav_collab: there's a AGM in there tonight after sessions end that isn't on the recording sheet.  are you able to stay and record it?  (if you need to head off that's fine - i'm not expecting it, but have been asked to record/stream it)02:56
xfxflcaav_largepod: i'd probably always duck up and turn off, you can do without stopping them.  it does make the video very hard to watch02:57
keeperI was planning to be out tonight sorry.02:57
lcaav_mediumi can jump in there02:57
lcaav_medium(ben)02:58
lcaav_largepodxfxf, videoteam: done02:58
xfxfkeeper: no worries, are you there on your own?02:58
videoteamsweet02:58
xfxfdo we have another vollie from another room who would be willing to do the above?02:58
lcaav_mediumyep, me (ben)02:58
xfxflcaav_medium: ty, much appreciated02:59
lcaav_mediumnp02:59
xfxfgiven it's an AGM might be helpful to have a second to help with mics etc too02:59
keeperI'm with dave atm, I'll ask ib the nezt break.02:59
xfxfno worries02:59
lcaav_greathallxfxf, how long will the agm go for?03:00
xfxfi don't know and I suspect the AGM runners won't know either03:01
xfxfi'd hope a hour max03:01
xfxfthey're relatively easy to record, having a zoomed out camera is fine03:01
xfxfMichael is using his own opsis as part of his presentation haha03:31
lcaav_greathallhahaha03:31
lcaav_greathallwhat's different about it?03:32
xfxfHe added another on top03:36
xfxfSo he can use two HDMI devices03:36
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lcaav_mediumI (Andrew R) don't mind helping out with the AGM too if needed04:49
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xfxfTy, much appreciated04:52
xfxfIt's the OSIA AGM04:52
xfxflol my phone autocorrected that to OPSIS04:52
keeperDid someone take the runsheet from the morning for 405, we can't see it.04:52
xfxfya, William did. We're processing this morning's video04:54
lcaav_largepodthis presenter is a shouter - levels good in the optsis but sounds a bit distorted in the headphones. should we touch the vamaha interface or anything?04:58
lcaav_largepodvideoteam, ^^04:58
xfxfit's a judgement call04:58
xfxfif it's super bad then you need to pull it down on the lecturn. If it's not red in vocyomix then pulling down on Yamaha won't fix it04:58
videoteamzoom out a bunch04:59
videoteamlet her pace04:59
videoteamyou dont need to pan so much haha04:59
xfxfif it's only during the occasional inflection then it's probably fine04:59
videoteampan down doo, show her head n feet04:59
videoteamtoo*04:59
videoteamit would be nice to drop the volume maybe one or two steps - it's not too bad but a little peaky05:00
lcaav_largepodi turned down the gain its much better05:00
videoteamyeah perfect05:00
lcaav_largepoddo you think i need to go further down?05:00
keeperDarkside: Does the 405 stream sound okay, we'ee having issues with people in the room hearing.05:01
keeperBut it's clipping a bit.05:01
keeper*videoteam05:01
xfxfLEVEL OF FIRE IN ROOMS 0-1005:02
videoteamlcaav_largepod, yes, if shes pacing, just zoom out and her head in top of fram, and her feet in bottom. minimise your panning :)05:02
videoteamuh05:02
videoteam6?05:02
lcaav_mediumEven the pen not working yesterday is working...05:02
videoteamis this a log(n) scale?05:02
lcaav_guthriemy mixtape is pretty lit so a 305:02
lcaav_largepodwe are ok now05:02
xfxfanything lower than a 5 is good05:03
xfxfanything higher than a 5 and i panic05:03
xfxfeveryone is doing really well btw, ty05:03
keepervideoteam: Can you confirm if sound is fine on stream for 405?05:06
videoteamack, wait 205:07
videoteampong, sound fine in 40505:07
keeperThanks, we've had a lot of recording vs live level issues today.05:08
jea[m]xfxf: stefanor can we be monitoring guthrie pleas05:29
jea[m]we may need to be ready to cut the stream. i don't know yet05:29
lcaav_guthrieyeah, that might be a good idea05:30
lcaav_guthriethe abc iview secret key was up there05:31
jea[m]leave it up05:32
jea[m]we are closely monitoring in HQ too05:32
tumbleweedjea[m]: ah, you want to replace the stream for that room, so people can't seek back in it?05:33
xfxflcaav_greathall: pls watch this.  if jea[m] says cut it, then please put it to the stream blanker05:33
xfxfoops05:33
jea[m]tumbleweed: we may need to. we are going to ask questions05:34
xfxflcaav_guthrie: is who I meant05:34
tumbleweedack05:34
xfxfjea[m]: pls let us know05:34
lcaav_guthrieack05:34
videoteamjea[m], youd be better with someone in the talk or in here05:34
videoteamthe yt stream is 40~sec behind05:34
jea[m]yeah, we are aware05:34
videoteamping me and ill drop stream in 1-2 sec05:34
jea[m]we have done a few things for this talk in the background, so are monitoring it closely05:34
xfxflcaav_largepod: why are you pointing a camera at the screen?05:35
xfxfis the opsis capture OK?05:35
lcaav_largepodyeah we are good its a tutorial - a weird one to film. she wanted everyone to see someones screen so they are plugged in to it05:35
xfxfoh right05:36
xfxfno worries05:36
xfxfhooray $random occuring05:36
videoteamguthrie talk has finished - they are in questions05:36
lcaav_largepodwe are cutting now anyway05:36
videoteamlcaav_largepod, i dont see any cut? are you going to blank stream?05:38
jea[m]I have marked the talk in symposion & veyepar as not allowed for release, so we can decide what to do for the video. probably fine, but we need to decide05:40
xfxfjea[m]: ty, good move05:40
jea[m]guthrie talk, that is05:40
xfxflcaav_guthrie: can you also mark the same on the sheet for that session (i.e. 'dont release until OK'ed)05:40
lcaav_guthrieack05:41
xfxfjea[m]: can you do this on-two-team thing again next year? :D05:41
jea[m]haha, maybe05:41
xfxfagain for somebody who isn't technically on the video team you've been incredibly helpful05:41
videoteamlcaav_largepod, are you aware you arent poutputting sound?05:43
lcaav_largepodvideoteam, we cut the audio and set a cutpoint05:43
videoteamokay05:44
lcaav_largepoddo u want it on loop?05:44
videoteamgo to stream loop05:44
lcaav_largepodack05:44
videoteamthank05:44
lcaav_largepodfyi gain was set too high on this yamaha mixer. gain down and level up sounds much better05:47
videoteamyay05:50
lcaav_mediumtalk finished early; we're done here06:22
lcaav_mediumalso FYI just got disk space warning (200gb free)06:23
lcaav_largepodvideoteam, av gave us a spare lecturn battery yesterday. do you want it back at HQ?06:25
lcaav_largepods/lecturn/lapel06:25
videoteam...uh06:26
videoteamno, leave it there06:26
lcaav_largepodk06:26
videoteamk06:26
tchaypoCan we put a hold on the unions talk just now in 401? It apparently used some strong language and we'd like to review it to see if it needs a warning when it gets published06:30
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jea[m]ok, I can do that06:31
lcaav_guthrieFinished here, taking record sheet to AV room. Anything else required to be done here?06:31
lcaav_largepoddone here06:32
videoteamall good06:32
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lcaav_collabThe AGM has requested for it to not be streamed or recorded06:39
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xfxflcaav_collab: okay, in that case, don't06:41
xfxf(i was told they did)06:41
xfxfapologies for confusion06:41
xfxfif OK, can one of you stick around?06:41
xfxfthey'll want to use mics06:41
xfxfthem playing with volumes and knobs and buttons will make things fun tomorrow :)06:42
lcaav_collabno worries06:42
xfxfthx06:42
tchaypoThanks all06:48
tchaypoI have another Radio I need to take up to the org room to charge so I'll take up the one from 00.405 as well07:07
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CarlFK[m]hungry!!!20:45
keeperFood, yum yum!20:47
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blahdeblahxfxf: I'm going to be a little late. This bug I thought was coming on earlier in the week has finally started to take effect a bit. But I'll still be there.21:05
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xfxfblahdeblah: no worries, thx for letting me know21:21
xfxfwcmckee: ping me before reviewing any more workshops - have had somebody ask for a re-edit as it's 90% nothing happening21:21
lcaav_greathallvideoteam, laptop on the right has ~15GB left on /srv/video, right has ~134GB21:30
lcaav_guthriexfxf, Opsis was turned off when we got here21:32
lcaav_greathalllcaav_guthrie, oh right, maybe I did do it then (ryan)21:33
lcaav_greathallwoo memory21:33
lcaav_greathallvys[m], see above21:34
lcaav_mediumEverything is working here21:36
lcaav_largepodall good here21:42
xfxflcaav_greathall: you are getting audio OK?21:46
lcaav_greathallyep21:49
vys[m]What am I seeing above?21:50
vys[m]lcaav_greathall: ^21:53
tumbleweedCarlFK[m]: how much free space do you think we need for a day?21:54
tumbleweedI reckon 150G should be good21:54
lcaav_greathallwe've got 166 on the left and 144 on the right21:54
CarlFK[m]10g / hour21:55
CarlFK[m]x2 cuz strangeness21:55
xfxflcaav_greathall: you getting HDMI on both podiums ok?21:55
lcaav_greathallyes21:55
xfxfrad21:55
lcaav_collab133GB left on this laptop.21:57
lcaav_greenAny chance of getting a spare lapel mic battery?  I'm not 100% sure that this one successfully charged.  We'd also love to borrow someone's laptop to check HDMI here.21:58
vys[m]lcaav_green: will check after keynote22:04
vys[m]Check HDMI*22:04
jea[m]stefanor / CarlFK - can you remind me of the change for the games miniconf?22:07
jea[m]or should I talk to ducky directly?22:07
tumbleweedjea[m]: https://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/lca/S/lca2018/s/1/E/13730/#ep-sm was replaced by another talk22:07
tpbTitle: veyepar: Making your first game in Twine (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com)22:07
tumbleweedRhett Loban. Noni couldn't make it and Rhett was always in our schedule but in a later slot, but never made it onto the main schedule for some reason.22:08
jea[m]Ok thanks. I'll adjust that now22:09
lcaav_largepodlcaav_green, we have a spare lapel batt, i can drop it there if videoteam wants22:21
vys[m]lcaav_largepod: have you run out of battery before?22:21
lcaav_largepodvys[m], yeah but thats cause someone didnt charge it properly. it was green this morning22:22
lcaav_green@lcaav_largepod, I'll wander over now, thanks22:23
tumbleweedCarlFK[m]: I rsynced the mp4 directory to evil_steve's mirror, but that includes not released things, which is probably bad22:24
tumbleweedI'm guessing the best option is to write a command that gives me --exclude for all the unreleased things?22:24
tumbleweedCarlFK[m]: apparently your internet archive account was marked as spammy yesterday22:26
CarlFK[m]doh22:30
lcaav_largepodvideoteam, the getting started with micropython talk probably needs to be re-editted. a *huge* chuck in the middle needs cutting out. it should have been on the runsheet. he just had a small section at the start and end he wanted recorded22:31
CarlFK[m]tumbleweed: there is a "push to mirror" .py that bumps state to 1122:31
tumbleweedok, rm-ed everything that was at state < 1122:31
tumbleweedCarlFK[m]: err tweet bumps to 1122:32
tumbleweedyou mean to 12?22:32
tumbleweedyour mirror thing is 4, I thought22:32
CarlFK[m]yes, 1222:32
tumbleweedpost_dir ?22:33
CarlFK[m]mirror and archive are kinda fuzzy.  I can't turn on/off permissions, so meh.22:34
tumbleweedyeah, we also can't delete again when something like lcaav_largepod's note above, happens22:34
CarlFK[m]post_dir.py - yes22:36
* tumbleweed runs it22:37
tumbleweedit's creating a complex data structure22:37
CarlFK[m]  5 # (02:50:17 PM) h01ger: please use $room/$day/$talk22:37
CarlFK[m]does that explain anything?22:38
tumbleweed:P22:38
tumbleweedhrm, I see some past LCAs had that structure22:38
tumbleweedbut some don't22:38
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tumbleweedCarlFK[m]: can we add post_dir to the pipeline? :)22:38
CarlFK[m]yep22:38
CarlFK[m]but then the done won't be done22:39
xfxf+1 for dividing up to subdirectories22:39
xfxfIt'll fix the ambiguously named files22:40
xfxftumbleweed: how we looking for HDD space on server?22:40
lcaav_greenNoting largepod's comment above, it *was* noted on the run sheet for the day22:40
tumbleweed~80% which is fine22:40
tumbleweedegvcvgcfdhlndeebcughfrkuvrtlulrc22:41
tumbleweedgrr22:41
xfxfdoesn't that mean we will run out of space today?22:41
videoteamasdfadsfasdf?22:41
tumbleweedxfxf: it means it'll be close, but shouldn't run out22:42
tumbleweedif we do some trimming22:42
xfxfok np22:42
xfxfIf we do trimming do it with me looking again, so we have two eyes over things22:42
tumbleweedCarlFK[m]: you had 2 state 11s22:44
tumbleweedI fixed22:44
CarlFK[m]thanks22:45
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videoteami am not used to hexchat22:49
tumbleweedhttp://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2018/23:05
tpbTitle: Index of /pub/linux.conf.au/2018 (at mirror.linux.org.au)23:05
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vysxfxf: nimh spare batt in lcaav_green not charging23:18
vysflashing red after 30 seconds or so23:18
xfxfok I'll call AV to head over23:18
vyscheers23:19
lcaav_greenvideoteam, ping23:19
xfxfthey're heading over with another battery23:20
lcaav_greenack23:20
lcaav_green<- vyw23:20
lcaav_greenvys*23:20
videoteamfire status Y/N ?23:20
lcaav_greenprobably no23:20
tumbleweedlcaav_collab, lcaav_greathall, lcaav_green, lcaav_guthrie, lcaav_largepod, lcaav_medium: ^^23:20
lcaav_greenchecking audio levels23:20
lcaav_guthrieNo fire here23:21
lcaav_largepodfire == 023:22
vysgreen battery seems to be charging now23:23
xfxfCan we have people back at rooms asap please. 405 is empty23:27
tchaypoThe unions talk that I asked not to go live is now up at https://youtu.be/BB0luXmuo3g and has had 181 views23:31
tchaypoCan we please take that down?23:31
xfxfCarlFK: jea[m]: why did that go live?23:32
lcaav_largepodalso can/should the micropython video be taken down and re-cut? most of it is junk23:33
tumbleweederr that is not the unions talk23:33
tchaypoperhaps because i told jea it was in 401 but it was actually 405, and so he may have flagged the wrong talk?23:33
tumbleweedthe unions was in 40123:33
tchaypooh good23:34
tchaypothe fault is with me not knowing how to read.23:34
tchaypoThis is easily resolved <323:34
tumbleweed:)23:34
xfxflcaav_largepod: ack. we will, just down the list of real-tine priorities23:34
lcaav_collabwe're not getting audio in the room; capture is fine23:34
xfxfwas this tested before the talk?23:34
lcaav_collabtalk hasn't started yet23:35
xfxfvys: see above23:35
xfxfoh rad23:35
lcaav_collabscheduled for 10:4523:35
vysI'll head over to lcaav_collab23:36
xfxfthx23:36
lcaav_greengreen room is all good to go23:39
xfxf\o/23:43
xfxfeveryone good?23:45
lcaav_largepodxfxf, yes23:46
lcaav_greathallyep23:47
vystl;dr collab room audio is there, but a little quiet23:47
vyspeople keep coming in, leaving the door open, and there's a coffee cart (with milk steamer) right outside23:47
vysthe audio is coming through vocto perfectly, but it's soft in the room23:47
lcaav_collabAnd people in the room are chating while doing a mic check.23:47
xfxfvys: if you turn the room up a little you can turn the knobs on the top.of the camera down. only do during a break tho23:48
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vysI don't know if I can turn up the room a little23:48
xfxfthere's a channel 1 and 2, both need to be adjusted. and only slightly23:48
vysseems like a house AV thing23:48
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xfxfyou can't turn the mics up?23:49
vysI couldn't see anything exciting on the front room panel23:49
xfxfthe mics are already at max?23:49
vysI don't remember them not being super high23:49
vysnothing jumped out at me, but I can't 100% confirm23:49
lcaav_collabThey aren't at max, 90%?23:50
vysxfxf: are you saying I should adjust the xlr in/out by 1db or so?23:50
xfxfvys: not on the capture box. on the camera but only if you pull volume for mics up23:52
xfxfdon't adjust mid talk tho23:52
vysyep23:52
xfxfvideoteam: someone complaining about echo in Guthrie. Can you hear anything? I'm Omw over there now23:56
videoteam i dont hear echo on recording23:59

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