Wednesday, 2011-04-06

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orcunaSRabbelier: will my patch go to byte heaven, doc? :)00:35
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LetterRip1you guys i'm sure are aware but just in case, the site is giving a server error right now00:58
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dberkholzapp engine seems busted, anything anyone here can do about that?01:15
dberkholztons of 500 errors01:16
dberkholzoh, maybe this is why:
tpbTitle: Google App Engine System Status (at
orcunadberkholz: i don't think anyone here can do anything01:26
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dberkholzyeah, i discovered that status page after bringing the problem up here01:28
orcunadberkholz: it must be like other google services: "our engineers will work at *:* for maintance" :)01:28
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Nightrosethanks to whoever added the last modified column!09:14
Nightrosecomment of one of my mentors: ponies!!!09:14
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|Kev|Nightrose: Yes, that's very useful. Notifications are also wonderful. Thanks Melange peeps.10:33
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madrazrwho is the ghost here? SRabbelier or SRabbelier|Lappy? :P12:01
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SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: one is me at home, the otherone is me at uni12:08
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: heh, so you have cloned yourself? :)12:09
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SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: of sorts12:14
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: ha ha12:14
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: notice the large amount of RPCs to check if dwr are enabled? ;)12:15
tpbTitle: Google Accounts (at
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: when I visit that URL I get an appengine page saying "Invalid or stale record key!"12:16
madrazryou have disabled access to that page for me? :P12:16
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: ah, it expired then12:17
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: Oh Ok12:17
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: try that one12:17
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: but I think I get your point. We had very very low RPC calls during Appengine maintenance? :P12:17
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: I've already fixed it of course :)12:18
tpbTitle: Google Accounts (at
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: seeing ...12:18
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: 17 RPCs for home page?12:20
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: notice in particular the 8 calls to capability_service.IsEnabled12:20
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: yeah just noticed that12:20
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: (I've fixed it in )12:20
tpbTitle: 46fb659745d6 - soc - SoC (Spice of Creation) - Google Project Hosting (at
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: how did you fix it?12:20
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: it was retrieved once every Template :P12:20
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: Oh!12:20
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: Nice!12:22
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: and +1 for memoizing!12:23
madrazrthat is an awesome thing :)12:24
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: yeah, didn't want to retrieve them for urls where we don't use them12:24
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: Oh Ok12:25
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: e.g. doesn't need either12:25
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: because it is a redirect?12:25
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: right12:27
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: Ok. Thats cool!12:27
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SRabbelier|Lappylook at that13:22
tpbTitle: Google Accounts (at
SRabbelier|Lappyonly 12 RPCs left13:22
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: awesomeness! 8 -> 213:24
SRabbelier|Lappymadrazr: 8?13:43
madrazrSRabbelier|Lappy: 8 calls to capability_service.IsEnabled to 2 calls now13:44
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orcunaSRabbelier|Lappy: hey, have you checked my patch yet?13:58
SRabbelier|Lappyorcuna: have you seen a reply?14:00
SRabbelier|Lappyorcuna: in other words, no :(14:01
orcunaSRabbelier|Lappy: yes, sorry. i'm little excited about that14:01
SRabbelier|Lappyorcuna: can you resend and inline the patch?14:03
SRabbelier|Lappyorcuna: I'd like to comment on it, but can't this way :P14:03
orcunaSRabbelier|Lappy: sure, will do it14:04
SRabbelier|Lappyorcuna: tnx :)14:04
orcunaSRabbelier|Lappy: it's little long (12 kb), i thought it would make visual pollution14:05
SRabbelier|Lappyorcuna: split it out into two patches :)14:09
socinfoSRabbelier|Lappy: "fix" is Send me an email from the account you are registered with on the site, with your link_id, and your desired status change. My email is my nick at gmail.14:09
SRabbelier|Lappyignore that :)14:09
NightroseSRabbelier|Lappy: in an email for a mentor request was this link: http://gsoc/request/google/gsoc2011/651320114:10
Nightrosewhich obviously didn't resolve :)14:10
SRabbelier|LappyNightrose: hm, how recent was that?14:10
Nightrosejust now14:10
Nightrose8 mins ago14:10
orcunaSRabbelier|Lappy: ops, i've had already submited14:11
SRabbelier|Lappyorcuna: np14:11
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SRabbelier|LappyNightrose: found the bug14:28
Nightroseyay :)14:28
SRabbelier|LappyNightrose: deploying14:35
Nightrosethanks :)14:35
SRabbelier|LappyNightrose: thanks for reporting ^^14:36
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MatthewWilkesafternoon all15:02
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SRabbelier|LappyMatthewWilkes: hello there15:06
orcunaSRabbelier|Lappy: thank you very much :) RequestData() can be None as you said. So i don't need  to convert view into RequestHandler, do i?15:20
orcunaSRabbelier|Lappy: by the way, who is Lennard on IRC?15:20
SRabbelier|Lappyorcuna: correct15:26
SRabbelier|Lappyorcuna: Lennie I think, but he's not online usually15:27
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armaani need help.15:47
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SRabbelier|Lappyarmaan: don't ask to ask, just ask15:49
armaani  want to develop a platform to bridge the  gap between theoretical and practical approach prevailing in the indian education system and i need a mentoring organiasation, to mentor my idea.15:50
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SRabbelier|Lappyarmaan: you're not even almost in the right channel15:53
armaanidea is to create  a community of all those people who wish to expertise15:53
armaanin scientific knowledge and its practical implementations,who have15:53
armaanburning desire for utilising thier talents in innovation and development.15:53
armaanIts a model to be innovative,to think out of box. a community operating on web.15:53
SRabbelier|Lappyarmaan: Perhaps ask an umbrella org15:54
SRabbelier|Lappyarmaan: but I doubt anyone is interested in something like that15:54
armaanhmmm :(15:54
SRabbelier|Lappyarmaan: you could try to find a professor in your university and apply at OSPO15:54
armaanwot an idea sir ji :)15:55
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armaanwhats ospo irc channel ?15:59
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MatthewWilkesYou know what I hate?16:07
MatthewWilkesFixing a bug in app engine.16:07
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SRabbelier|LappyMatthewWilkes: agreed16:13
SRabbelier|LappyMatthewWilkes: what'd you fix? (talk to SRabbelier, I'm turning off my laptop)16:13
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tpbTitle: Issue 778 - googleappengine - MacLauncher on 10.5.5 + 1.1.5 can't import standard python libraries - Google App Engine - Google Project Hosting (at
MatthewWilkesWhich has an incorrect title/description16:16
MatthewWilkesit's actually fixing the import shit so it works on non-standard python install paths16:16
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MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: I mean, seriously, why can't they put a BIT of work into the dev appserver16:31
MatthewWilkesIf they had one python coder of any skill working on it full time it would be so much better16:31
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SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: hmmhm, would be nice if they fixed packaging too ;)17:08
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: The dev server packaging? Yes17:09
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: right17:09
MatthewWilkesIt's written by somebody who has no clue how Python is used17:09
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: that way we'd not have to include it in our tree17:09
MatthewWilkessomeone self taught who's never been in an open source community17:09
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: very likely17:10
socinfoSRabbelier: "fix" is Send me an email from the account you are registered with on the site, with your link_id, and your desired status change. My email is my nick at gmail.17:11
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SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: so why'd you have to fix it twice?17:15
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: didn't Guido apply it?17:16
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: He did, but it's been broken since17:18
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: 'doh17:19
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MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: Why is student/mentor global, not per programme anyway?17:40
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robertwbI've got a question about re-using old linkids.17:48
MatthewWilkesHow do I build [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/Users/matthewwilkes/work/melange/app/soc/content/0-8-20101206/css/v2/gsoc/menu.css' ?17:51
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SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: it's not, it is per program17:55
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SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: run bin/paver build17:56
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: That crashes for me17:58
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: pastebin?17:58
tpbTitle: #1764348 - Pastie (at
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: You don't need to tell me, I was already getting it17:59
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: can you try removing buildout's crap and running bootstrap again?17:59
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: I can try, but this was a fresh checkout from an hour or two ago18:00
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: nvm then18:00
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: can reproduce locally18:01
MatthewWilkesSorry, giving you more work :S18:01
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: 't was an easy fix :)18:02
MatthewWilkesYou know, I'm convinced the dev sdk is intentionally shit18:03
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: I'm not convinced18:03
MatthewWilkeshow do they intend to get people to use it like this?18:03
* MatthewWilkes grumbles18:04
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: committing18:04
MatthewWilkesIf I had to do anything at google it would be fix that18:04
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: like dev_appserver.py18:04
MatthewWilkesI don't like it, no18:05
MatthewWilkesBut yeah18:05
MatthewWilkesgut the thing and do it right18:05
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: it working now?18:06
MatthewWilkespylint is very upset with you guys, but yeah18:07
MatthewWilkesoh, wait18:08
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MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: It completed but didn't build the files18:08
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: cos pylint is angry18:08
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: run it with -s18:08
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: also, try -q18:09
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: still no:
tpbTitle: #1764394 - Pastie (at
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: looks like that did what it should, yeah?18:11
MatthewWilkesmaybe it did, but there's no version tag there, like the app looks for18:12
MatthewWilkes[19:51:51]  <MatthewWilkes> How do I build [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/Users/matthewwilkes/work/melange/app/soc/content/0-8-20101206/css/v2/gsoc/menu.css' ?18:12
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: it's not supposed to be there :)18:15
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: see app.yaml18:15
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: we just ignore the version tag18:15
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: (it's only use is to make browser caching DTRT)18:16
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MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: Dammit, I used my old app.yaml18:17
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: I didn't suggest running gen-app-yaml because you said you'd done a clean clone :P18:17
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: what are you cloning for anyway? :)18:18
MatthewWilkesSRabbelier: I cloned to wash away the old changes from last time18:18
MatthewWilkesdidn't think app.yaml mattered18:18
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: it doesn't usually18:18
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MatthewWilkesI think i will have some tea18:20
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: excellent18:22
MatthewWilkesFried bacon, fried sausage, fried bread18:24
MatthewWilkesshould do18:24
SRabbelierlots of frying going on there18:24
MatthewWilkesbeans would be good too18:24
MatthewWilkesIt's a fryup!18:24
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: I suppose my question should be, why are you getting your Melange clone cleaned up?18:24
MatthewWilkesWell, I was bored a couple of hours ago so thought I'd do some melange hacking18:25
MatthewWilkesTo be honest, the drive is waning after having to fight with the shitty google code before I got to the nice melange stuff ;)18:25
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: and we made our new code all nice and comfy for you18:28
MatthewWilkesI have a low tolerance for bad code18:29
SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: don't we all18:30
gevaertsHow do you feel about excellent implementations of horrid designs?18:30
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SRabbelierMatthewWilkes: did you manage to get Melange running? :)18:57
gevaertsOr did you get mixed results?18:57
MatthewWilkesI got it running18:57
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SRabbeliergevaerts: +118:59
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MatthewWilkeshi ahel20:20
aheli've a problem with ordered list20:20
ahelhi again mate!20:20
* MatthewWilkes is everywhere20:21
MatthewWilkesand by everywhere, I mean in 2 channels20:21
ahellol when i indent a line, i update and it's always in the same situation!20:22
ahelit is very frustrating...20:23
MatthewWilkesit's probably using some css that's being filtered out later20:24
ahel...uhmm.. sounds a bit weird. any idea?20:27
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harlan_I want to invite some mentors and a backup org admin.  Should I just prowl the FAQ for the link to do this?20:49
harlan_I'm not seeing anything obvious on my dashboard.20:49
SRabbelierharlan_: it's on your org homepage20:50
harlan_thanks - I;ll look there now :)20:50
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j-bHello, this is just a small thank you for the last update, that helped a lot.20:58
SRabbelierj-b: yw :)20:58
j-bSRabbelier: I don't know who exactly to thank though :D20:59
j-bC U20:59
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waldihi. is there a way to remove mentors?21:53
SRabbelierwaldi: not atm21:55
SRabbelierwaldi: I can do so manually though21:55
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orcunaHi, args = ['--exclude=functional' ,'--exclude=^views$', '--exclude=^tasks$']22:02
orcunawhat does that mean?22:02
orcunaare some tests ignored really?22:02
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SRabbelierorcuna: it means we don't run  the function, view, or tasks tests22:02
SRabbelierorcuna: they're for old views22:02
SRabbelierorcuna: that are no longer used22:02
SRabbelierorcuna: they'll be deleted eventually22:03
SRabbelierorcuna: but are there atm for reference22:03
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orcunaSRabbelier: which tests are in use right now?22:06
orcunaSRabbelier: are all new tests in tests/new_views ?22:06
SRabbelierorcuna: yes to the latter22:07
SRabbelierorcuna: and all tests that run when you do bin/run-tests are in use22:07
SRabbelierorcuna: although _I_ don't personally run the non-new_views ones22:07
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iandeesit looks like you guys recently removed the "organization" column from the "Proposals Submitted to my Orgs" table22:08
orcunaSRabbelier: yes, does "Testing, Code Guru, Code Quality Assurance" contain writing these new tests?22:08
SRabbelieriandees: see email to the mentor list22:08
iandeesany way to get that back so I don't need to guess which org has proposals?22:09
SRabbelieriandees: yes22:09
iandeesSRabbelier: k, thanks. Sorry, I've been skimming those a lot due to high volume :)22:09
SRabbelieriandees: read the [Announce] ones22:09
iandeesvery nice, thanks. I was even poking at those buttons earlier today -- should have noticed.22:10
iandeesit even remembers my settings :)22:10
SRabbelieriandees: isn't it great? thank Mario22:12
iandeesthanks mario :)22:13
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SRabbeliergevaerts: yes, they can22:48
SRabbelierharlan: you can go to your org homepage22:48
SRabbelierharlan: and click 'invite a mentor', but it'll only work if he already created a profile for this year, which I assume he hasn't22:48
gevaertsharlan: I'd re-evaluate things next Friday then22:48
harlanhe hasn't...22:49
ahelhi, how can i add an image on my proposal? with some html tag or something like that? thank you!22:49
harlanI sent him the URL in case he can do that.22:49
harlanI found the email address he used to sign up before.22:49
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LetterRipHi SRabbelier might be a good idea to not do self notifications that you left a comment23:05
LetterRipat least not for the defaults23:05
SRabbelierLetterRip: yeah23:06
SRabbelierLetterRip: issue for it?23:06
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LetterRipcould you put a link to the tracker in the topic :)23:12
LetterRipSRabbelier, ^23:13
SRabbelier!learn bug as  file melange feature requests & bugs at
socinfoSRabbelier: The operation succeeded.23:13
tpbTitle: Google Project Hosting (at
SRabbelierLetterRip: there you go23:13
SRabbelierLetterRip: I'd rather not23:14
SRabbelierLetterRip: I've successfully added a gmail filter for these23:14
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sdumitriuMelange seems to discard some student applications, is this a known bug?23:19
LetterRipSRabbelier, cool23:19
sdumitriuI received a mail notification for this proposal:
LetterRipsdumitriu, yikes!23:19
sdumitriuBut it doesn't appear in the list of proposals23:19
SRabbeliersdumitriu: student probably withdrew it23:20
sdumitriu(I'm an org admin, btw)23:20
sdumitriuNo he didn't23:20
sdumitriuAt least not willingly23:20
Triskeliosoh, are we supposed to receive mail notifications now? I'm not...23:20
sdumitriuTriskelios: Just started today23:20
Triskeliosah, thanks23:21
SRabbelierTriskelios: yes you are23:21
SRabbeliersdumitriu: did you change the status dropdown to "All"?23:21
sdumitriuSRabbelier: Wasn't there, added the column, and indeed it appears as withdrawn23:22
sdumitriuI'll go check with the student23:22
SRabbeliersdumitriu: okay :)23:22
TriskeliosSRabbelier: you're right, actually, totally forgot about the update messages from this morning23:23
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LetterRipman this year is going to be some tough choices...23:56
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