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| jai | hi, The melagne page mentions about adding a social platform to it. I would like to integrate it with one of the social platforms preferably facebook because i have a good experience with its API. Also I have worked a lot with Django, so cant we use pinax for a framework to our social platform which we modify according to our needs. | 14:13 |
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| jai | Also pinax has support for OpenId which will be very good for authentication. | 14:15 |
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| SRabbelier | jai: we're runing on appengine though | 14:20 |
| SRabbelier | jai: so we use Google Accounts for authentication | 14:20 |
| schmrz | Hello Everyone :) | 14:24 |
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| SRabbelier | schmrz: hi | 14:26 |
| jai | SRabbelier: I have just began seeing the code. What all should i stick to while developing for the social platform? will starting with a modified pinax framework be fine? | 14:29 |
| SRabbelier | jai: what does pinax do? | 14:29 |
| SRabbelier | jai: Also, I'm probably not the best person to ask, better ot mail the list and ask Madhu and Mario | 14:29 |
| schmrz | SRabbelier: Hi there... You might remember me as I tried participating in the previous gsoc by working on melange. I don't remember exactly what I worked on but it involved adding support for some kind of revision control for user documents. | 14:30 |
| SRabbelier | schmrz: *nod*, Daniel has picked that up | 14:30 |
| schmrz | SRabbelier: I was browsing the organizations list for this year and saw melange and just wanted to say hi to you guys :) I see that some major code base rewritting is in progress ? It was kinda hairy back then (for me)... | 14:32 |
| jai | thanx. BTW pinax is a easy to install social website framework built in django. | 14:32 |
| SRabbelier | schmrz: yup | 14:32 |
| SRabbelier | schmrz: a lot less "magic" involved now | 14:32 |
| schmrz | SRabbelier: That's nice. | 14:33 |
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| BlankVerse | jai: have you deployed pinax on app-engine? | 15:06 |
| BlankVerse | jai: pinax is pure django , i dont think it will be directly deployable on app-engine | 15:07 |
| BlankVerse | i also have worked on pinax , its a collections of existing reusable django apps glued together | 15:07 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: what social features are being thought of in melange? | 15:08 |
| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: see last years project I guess? | 15:09 |
| BlankVerse | pinax seems completely unrelevant to melange | 15:09 |
| BlankVerse | jai: what will you be using pinax for exactly? | 15:09 |
| BlankVerse | i think it will be quite difficult to deploy pinax or any part of it into app-engine | 15:10 |
| BlankVerse | since most of pinax's components are 'pure' django apps | 15:13 |
| BlankVerse | with django ORM on the base | 15:13 |
| BlankVerse | jai: openid module has nothing to do with pinax , you can use django-openid directly | 15:16 |
| BlankVerse | jai: if it is required in melange | 15:16 |
| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: thanks for investigating | 15:16 |
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| jai | yes that's true. but pinax has must more advantage for developing a social platform instead of starting from scratch. It will speed up the process. | 15:24 |
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| SRabbelier | jai: but... if it doesn't work, that doesn't get us much ;) | 15:30 |
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| jai | SRabbelier: i thought to give it a try ... nehow it must work.. i have worked with with pinax and django a lot. :) | 15:32 |
| SRabbelier | jai: you can try, sure | 15:32 |
| SRabbelier | jai: but we don't need it for authentication | 15:33 |
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| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: hello ! | 15:36 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: hey! hope you are feeling better | 15:36 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: yea got much better now, thank you :) | 15:36 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: glad to hear that | 15:36 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: i have a small doubt | 15:36 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: shoot | 15:37 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier:now that params are not used anymore how can we achieve functionality like this helper.responses.useJavaScript(context, params['js_uses_all']) | 15:38 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: that's been moved to the templates | 15:38 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: see for example templates/v2/modules/gsoc/program/base.html | 15:38 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: there the {% block dependencies %} declares our JS deps | 15:39 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: oh, so they dont need to be called from the views no more? | 15:39 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: no | 15:39 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: thank you, was wondering about that | 15:40 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: am i lagging too behind? i missed like almomst 4 days :( | 15:40 |
| BlankVerse | jai: i have also worked with pinax and django , running pinax on django is different from running pinax on app-engine | 15:41 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: i didnt investigate , i have already used pinax :) | 15:41 |
| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: even better! nice | 15:41 |
| BlankVerse | jai: if u have already worked with pinax and you know a little about app-engine , i m sure you will be able to appreciate the pain of running pinax on app-engine | 15:42 |
| BlankVerse | jai: correct me if i am wrong , but can pinax or any part of it run on app-engine ? | 15:42 |
| BlankVerse | jai: i hope u know that app-engine doesn;t support django's ORM | 15:43 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: anf i think we are not going to persue the django-nonrel patch for pinax? | 15:44 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: i mean i dont see how pinax can be integrated with melange | 15:45 |
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| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: sounds like we'll need a different solution for social integration then :) | 15:48 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: no existing solution exists for app-engine , that i have already investigated , either we start from scratch or we complete migrate pinax's ORM to datastore | 15:49 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: which will be too much work in pinax | 15:50 |
| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: shouldn't be too hard to start from scratch? | 15:50 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: yeah | 15:50 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: we dont need a full-fledged social network | 15:50 |
| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: correct | 15:50 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: i was able to create a social network from scratch in a few days | 15:51 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: using pure django | 15:51 |
| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: we had a student last year integrating some social components, in particular a Calendar with events feature | 15:51 |
| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: (geographically bound) | 15:51 |
| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: gud , so is there any plan for extending on top of it | 15:52 |
| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: that's the idea for the social integration I think, to port that code, and extend it | 15:52 |
| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: could be part of a project that adds export to GDocs | 15:52 |
| SRabbelier | BlankVerse: "Integrate Melange with other services" | 15:53 |
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| BlankVerse | SRabbelier: that sounds gr8 | 15:53 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: and how can i query on logic where logic = params['logic'] ? | 15:53 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: we're not really using logic much anymore | 15:53 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: if possible, avoid using anything in the logic.models/views.models packages | 15:54 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: that's a failed experiment | 15:54 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: sure | 15:54 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: i'm sorry for asking too many questions but i'm really confuesed about line 3 here http://dpaste.com/525250 | 15:56 |
| tpb | Title: dpaste: #525250: by slingshot316 (at dpaste.com) | 15:56 |
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| SRabbelier | slingshot316: that's just retrieving the relevant entity using some obscure method | 15:57 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: have a look at the Mutator in access_checker instead | 15:57 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: yea will do, but do we need that method anymore? i guess not | 15:58 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: no, just write something explicit | 15:58 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: like we do it in the new views | 15:59 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: you really should be looking less at the old views | 15:59 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: you're focussing too much on porting the old functionality 1:1 | 15:59 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: yea i know, but i'm just trying to understand what is happening in that view first | 16:00 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: yea, will stop doing that | 16:00 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: it's hard to understand what it's doing by looking at the old code :P | 16:00 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: that's why we threw all that away | 16:00 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: even we had trouble figuring out WTH was going on | 16:00 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: lol, will do what you said | 16:00 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: so this public-task view basically is the view for pages that are open to everyone? | 16:01 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: you could look at proposal_review.py for inspiration, it's similar | 16:02 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: sure, thank you :) | 16:03 |
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| romulomachado | SRabbelier Heya! | 16:05 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: hi | 16:05 |
| romulomachado | SRabbelier I talked to you some days ago about the Testing, Code Guru, Code Quality Assurance Idea | 16:06 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: one of many :) | 16:06 |
| romulomachado | SRabbelier LOL | 16:06 |
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| romulomachado | SRabbelier Could you take a look on should-dsl (http://www.should-dsl.info/)? | 16:08 |
| tpb | Title: Basic Usage Should-DSL v2.0a3 documentation (at www.should-dsl.info) | 16:08 |
| romulomachado | SRabbelier It's a nice tool to testing | 16:08 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: interesting idea | 16:09 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: Google uses something like that for their C++ testing | 16:10 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: I don't know how well it would apply to our scenarios though | 16:11 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: have a look at tests/new_views | 16:11 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: check those tests, and decide for yourself if there's much improvement that can be gained from using it | 16:11 |
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| romulomachado | SRabbelier What tests are broken actually? | 16:27 |
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| romulomachado | SRabbelier What tests are broken actually? | 16:45 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: what do you mean? | 16:45 |
| romulomachado | SRabbelier Wich tests are broken? | 16:46 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: none? | 16:47 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: why do you ask? | 16:47 |
| romulomachado | SRabbelier "Getting Started" page says: "Currently our functional tests are broken" | 16:48 |
| romulomachado | SRabbelier Is it wrong? | 16:49 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: oh, well, yeah, they are, but they're excluded by default | 16:49 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: they're in test_functional | 16:49 |
| SRabbelier | romulomachado: we now just use DjangoTestCase for sortof-functional testign | 16:49 |
| romulomachado | SRabbelier Ok! | 16:51 |
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| SRabbelier | Nightrose: what account are you logged in with? | 23:07 |
| Nightrose | [email protected] | 23:08 |
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| SRabbelier | Nightrose: yeah, you totally should have a role | 23:08 |
| Nightrose | :D | 23:08 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: oh | 23:09 |
| SRabbelier | maybe I know | 23:09 |
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| SRabbelier | yup | 23:09 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: so all the old profiles are archived | 23:10 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: read-only mode so to sya | 23:10 |
| Nightrose | ok | 23:10 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: I can enable your profile so you can have a look though | 23:10 |
| Nightrose | i can take a quick look if you want me to but it is already pretty late | 23:11 |
| Nightrose | should go to bed soonish | 23:11 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: *nod*, try now | 23:11 |
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| Nightrose | ok | 23:11 |
| Nightrose | aha! | 23:11 |
| Nightrose | works | 23:11 |
| * Nightrose looks | 23:11 | |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: woot | 23:12 |
| Nightrose | i find the orange text a bit hard to read | 23:12 |
| Nightrose | mit be because it is italics | 23:12 |
| Nightrose | dunno | 23:12 |
| Nightrose | *might | 23:12 |
| Nightrose | Im network -> IM handle | 23:13 |
| Nightrose | and IM might not be well known as an acronym - dunno | 23:13 |
| Nightrose | eh | 23:13 |
| Nightrose | Im -> IM | 23:13 |
| Nightrose | ignore the rest | 23:13 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: the help text below the fields? | 23:14 |
| Nightrose | yes | 23:14 |
| Nightrose | latitude and longitude: might be nice to have a hint how to find them easily | 23:14 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: yeah, latlong need to go | 23:14 |
| SRabbelier | (until we add a maps widget) | 23:14 |
| Nightrose | k | 23:14 |
| SRabbelier | can you try disabling the italics with inspector and see if that improves it? (if it's too late for that kind of fidgeting that's fine too) | 23:15 |
| Nightrose | i'd rather do that another day tbh | 23:15 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: sure | 23:15 |
| Nightrose | the country dropdown is missing a heading | 23:15 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: it's late | 23:15 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: that's intentional, it's the first entry | 23:16 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: (which is selected by default) | 23:16 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: but you can't didn't see that since it's on the value you have selected atm, hmm | 23:16 |
| Nightrose | ahhhh | 23:16 |
| Nightrose | ok | 23:16 |
| Nightrose | the checkbox for publish my location should maybe go behind the text? | 23:16 |
| Nightrose | the whole shipping address thingy might need a question "do you want it to be different from the address above?" first | 23:17 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: all the help text is below the field it goes with though, wouldn't that be more confusing? | 23:17 |
| Nightrose | and only if you say yes show you all the stuff again | 23:17 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: *nod* | 23:17 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: yeah, good point | 23:18 |
| Nightrose | [00:17:38] <SRabbelier> Nightrose: all the help text is below the field it goes with though, wouldn't that be more confusing? | 23:18 |
| Nightrose | ^ not sure what you mean but the way it is right now it is kinda backwards to me | 23:18 |
| Nightrose | first you check the box and then you know what it is about | 23:18 |
| Nightrose | but hmmm | 23:19 |
| Nightrose | maybe not | 23:19 |
| Nightrose | :P | 23:19 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: the help text explaining what you should put in the field I mean | 23:19 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: the orange stuff :P | 23:19 |
| Nightrose | yes | 23:19 |
| Nightrose | but i mean the checkbox | 23:19 |
| Nightrose | and then the text saying what you check is behind it | 23:20 |
| Nightrose | instead of first telling me what it is about and then giving me the checkbox | 23:20 |
| Nightrose | other than that it looks very nice | 23:20 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: right, but I meant, it's the same way with the other fields, e.g. Im handle first gives you the field, and then tells you what it should be | 23:20 |
| Nightrose | looking forward to using it for real | 23:20 |
| SRabbelier | Nightrose: yay ^^ | 23:20 |
| Nightrose | hmm true | 23:21 |
| Nightrose | alright | 23:23 |
| Nightrose | and with that i go to bed | 23:23 |
| Nightrose | nini :) | 23:23 |
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