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| dongsheng | Hi, I am a mentor of Moodle, I got a problem to do mid-term evaluation, when I went http://socghop.appspot.com/grading_project_survey/take/program/google/gsoc2009/mentormid09, I got "There is no such active entity", maybe I used a wrong google account, is it possible to find the correct google account to log in? | 00:10 |
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| Lennie | ajaksu: ping :)? | 07:01 |
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| ACSpike[Home] | Is melange built with any framework, such as django? | 08:52 |
| Lennie | yeah | 08:52 |
| ACSpike[Home] | django? | 08:52 |
| Lennie | It's built on Google Appengine | 08:52 |
| Lennie | which can use django :) | 08:52 |
| Lennie | might be understatement | 08:53 |
| Lennie | anyhow we use GAE and Django | 08:53 |
| ACSpike[Home] | does GAE have its own set of conventions and file organization? | 08:53 |
| Lennie | conventions about? | 08:54 |
| ACSpike[Home] | I'm trying to figure out what prerequisite knowledge I would have to have before I could create a survey status page :-) | 08:54 |
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| Lennie | Django won't help you too much with that | 08:55 |
| Lennie | since you would probably use the django templates we already have for the lists | 08:55 |
| Lennie | I think some general knowledge about how GAE works and a look at our approach might be best | 08:55 |
| ACSpike[Home] | I've never played with django. tg and pylons, yes. django no so I don't know how it contributes | 08:56 |
| Lennie | we mainly use it for HTML templates and forms | 08:56 |
| Lennie | all the real work is done by appengine code | 08:56 |
| Lennie | since that talks to the datastore | 08:57 |
| ACSpike[Home] | is there an architecture doc? | 08:57 |
| ACSpike[Home] | hey, there is an architecture doc for the surveys! cool. | 09:02 |
| Lennie | I think the docs are very outdated | 09:02 |
| Lennie | the person who drew some of them up didn't really match reality :) | 09:02 |
| Lennie | http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/ModelViewController | 09:04 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3WK+> (at code.google.com) | 09:04 |
| Lennie | I think that is the closest you can get to reality :P | 09:04 |
| Lennie | (adds note to his list stating to clean up the wiki) | 09:05 |
| Lennie | ACSpike[Home]: Sorry if it is lacking proper description not really what it should be | 09:08 |
| ACSpike[Home] | hey, documentation is the hardest part. | 09:08 |
| ACSpike[Home] | I'm sure this is all way out of my league and way different than any of my experience | 09:09 |
| ACSpike[Home] | but I'll keep staring at it for a while and see if something makes sense | 09:10 |
| Lennie | ok :) | 09:10 |
| ACSpike[Home] | please let me know when my questions pass the threshold of being a bother :-) | 09:10 |
| Lennie | If you have any questions melange-soc-dev Google Groups is the best place :) | 09:11 |
| ACSpike[Home] | ok | 09:11 |
| Lennie | I'll try to answer them here too, but I can't answer all :D | 09:11 |
| Lennie | and I'm not always here ^^ | 09:11 |
| Lennie | ACSpike[Home]: my experience is that it is just better to play with the code rather then dive right into what you want to make | 09:13 |
| Lennie | get a feeling for it :) | 09:14 |
| ACSpike[Home] | sure, that's reasonable. | 09:14 |
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| ACSpike[Home] | Lennie: ok I browsed some of the docs for GAE. it looks great, not too different from anything else. I'm thinking I could pretty much just copy listProposals() from app/soc/views/models/organization.py and rework it for surveys. bbl. | 11:18 |
| Lennie | I wonder where to put it | 11:19 |
| Lennie | :) | 11:19 |
| Lennie | however if you get something working that's already a big plus | 11:20 |
| Lennie | I can tell you where to put it later :D | 11:20 |
| Lennie | once some thought has been given to it | 11:20 |
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| ACSpike[Home] | I probably shouldn't ask this until I've actually installed melange and tested it out, but is there a standard set of sample data to use, or do I have to recreate my own private gsoc program to test? | 13:19 |
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| mmu_man | plop | 15:40 |
| mmu_man | She has already completed the project. He is ahead of schedule. She is on schedule. He is behind schedule. She is far behind schedule. | 15:40 |
| mmu_man | she/he ? is that to respect parity ? ;) | 15:40 |
| Lennie | We have not written that survey :D | 15:40 |
| Lennie | ask LH ^_^ | 15:40 |
| mmu_man | ugh ok :p | 15:41 |
| Lennie | :D | 15:41 |
| Lennie | But I think that's the general idea probably :P | 15:42 |
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| Lennie | yosh? | 16:46 |
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| Erant | You prodded me like thursday :P | 16:47 |
| Lennie | yeah | 16:47 |
| Lennie | pm :) | 16:47 |
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