Sunday, 2015-05-03

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Ci-DevHm.00:00
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Hijirithat's not good00:00
Ci-DevNo message on stdout.00:00
Ci-DevCan I do an nmap?00:00
Hijirito see if my port is open?00:01
Ci-DevYes.00:01
Hijirino thanks00:01
Ci-DevIt now says timeout on server.00:01
Ci-DevFreeOrion is alive again.00:01
Hijirihmm00:06
Hijiriwait, let me check something00:06
Ci-DevOkay.00:06
HijiriI forgot I had a firewall running00:07
Hijiribecause I never had to change it00:07
Hijirisince I always used the same ports for everything00:08
Ci-DevI see.00:08
Hijiritry again00:08
Ci-DevWow.00:08
Ci-DevWorks. :D00:08
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adesstback..01:18
adesst:D01:18
adesstwhat could i have done wrong, `no LIBRARY DESTINATION for shared library target`?01:42
adessthttp://pastebin.ca/298998601:43
tpbTitle: pastebin - adesst - post number 2989986 (at pastebin.ca)01:43
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Forty-3hey02:25
Forty-3me and a friend are trying to play mp02:26
Forty-3we have the same version (SVN 8041)02:26
Forty-3but when I try and connect, he gets "connection to server lost" and my game stops responding02:26
Forty-3he's using the windows binary for vista, and I compiled from source02:27
rookie1there's instructions on the wiki02:34
rookie1it's kinda weird02:34
rookie1http://www.freeorion.org/index.php/Multiplayer02:35
tpbTitle: Multiplayer - FreeOrionWiki (at www.freeorion.org)02:35
rookie1i can help step-by-step instructions02:35
rookie1simply because i've been able to do it before02:35
rookie1Forty-3: are you on LAN or through Internet?02:36
Forty-3internet02:37
Forty-3we've read the wiki02:38
rookie1ok, starting from scratch:02:39
rookie1run FreeOrionD.exe02:39
rookie1then create a shortcut of FreeOrion.exe02:39
rookie1in that shortcut's properties, go to the Shortcut tab02:40
rookie1at the end of Target line add " --external-server-address [your external ip]"  without the quotes02:41
rookie1future HACKERS ON STERIODS02:43
rookie1oops wrong channel (lol)02:43
rookie1^ for context: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/34nan5/daughter_using_linux_to_play_a_trick_on_her_dad/02:43
rookie1anyways, pick your router: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/02:44
tpbTitle: Router Port Forwarding Guides (at portforward.com)02:44
rookie1and open the ports: TCP 12346, and UDP 1234502:44
rookie1Then have your friend join on your IP02:45
rookie1i can answer questions about what i've explained also :x02:45
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se5a_how do I use the stargate?03:20
se5a_I've built two03:20
se5a_set one to send03:20
se5a_and the other to recive03:20
se5a_I've a ship in the system where the send gate is03:21
se5a_but now what03:21
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Ci-Dev_Hijiri: I got my daily disconnect. :/03:29
Ci-Dev_Trying to reconnect.03:29
Hijiriok03:29
Ci-Dev_FreeOrion still is black. :o03:31
Ci-Dev_I see you got problems with yellow?03:31
Hijiriyep03:31
se5a_oh hey Hijiri03:31
Hijirihi se5a_03:32
HijiriI'm playing a net game with Ci03:32
se5a_oh cool03:32
Ci-Dev_Is there something I have to do?03:32
Ci-Dev_Or you have to do?03:32
HijiriI already ended my turn03:32
Ci-Dev_I press "join" and the screen stays black.03:32
se5a_hey do you know how to use the stargate?03:32
Ci-Dev_So did I.03:32
Ci-Dev_I do.03:33
Ci-Dev_Build a star gate (or transformer) at any planet.03:33
Ci-Dev_And then another one.03:33
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Ci-Dev_Change the focus.03:33
Ci-Dev_One to "stargate input".03:33
Ci-Dev_And the other to "stargate output".03:33
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Ci-Dev_Any fleet at any system with star gate input will be moved to a random stargate output.03:34
Ci-Dev_So only have one output to be deterministric. :)03:34
HijiriI don't see anything for me to press for you to be back in the game03:34
Ci-Dev_And I just see a black screen.03:35
Ci-Dev_Sound still plays.03:35
Ci-Dev_So it does not seem to hang.03:35
Hijiriit says your turn hasn't ended yet03:35
Ci-Dev_Hm. Guess it is the turn after then.03:36
Ci-Dev_Any idea how I get into the game again?03:36
Hijirino idea03:36
Hijirithis is my first online game03:36
Ci-Dev_Do you have something in the options?03:36
Ci-Dev_Gor me, "load" and "save" was disabled.03:36
Ci-Dev_*For03:36
HijiriI have load disabled, everythibg else is enabled03:37
Hijiriso I could save the game and remake it03:37
Ci-Dev_Hm.03:37
Ci-Dev_Try it?03:37
Hijiriok03:37
HijiriI think my game might be frozen now03:38
Hijiriunless it is just taking a long time to save?03:38
Ci-Dev_If you did not change the defaults, auto-save every turn is enabled for multiplayer.03:39
Hijirioh03:39
Hijiriwhen I went to save though, the save dir looked empty03:40
HijiriI never changed any autosave options though03:40
Ci-Dev_Hm.03:40
Ci-Dev_There should be an "autosave" in it.03:40
HijiriI closed the game since it was frozen, I'll check saves I guess03:40
Hijiriyeah, the auto is there03:41
Hijirirehosting at the same address03:41
Ci-Dev_I try.03:41
se5a_ah thanks, maybe I just need to leave the ship where it is and go to the next turn03:42
se5a_heh03:42
Afdalo:04:23
Afdalare you guise playan :V04:23
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se5a_do you  guys get a whole bunch of errors when you start or load a game?05:01
se5a_I'm guessing it's ai related05:01
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adesststill struggling with no TARGET DESTINATION06:25
adessthuh..06:25
HijiriCi-Dev_: ping06:50
Ci-Dev_Hijiri: Yes?06:51
Ci-Dev_Waiting for your turn to finish.06:51
Ci-Dev_By the way, do you know the fleet editor?06:51
Ci-Dev_I mean, do you use own ship designs?06:52
Ci-Dev_Or the automatically created ones?06:52
HijiriI'm using my own06:52
HijiriI said this in-game, but I have to go now06:52
Hijirishould I just finish this turn first06:52
Ci-Dev_Go meanS?06:52
Hijirileave06:52
Ci-Dev_Back in some hours?06:52
Hijiriwell, not until tomorrow06:53
Ci-Dev_I should go to bed as well.06:53
Hijiriat least 13 hours, if I have time to play tomorrow06:53
Ci-Dev_I see.06:53
Ci-Dev_Saving worked.06:53
Ci-Dev_So guess you finish the turn.06:53
Ci-Dev_And then we got a save game.06:53
Ci-Dev_For turn 188.06:53
Ci-Dev_Hm.06:54
HijiriI guess we ok06:54
Ci-Dev_You said something in-game?06:54
Hijiriwhoops, typo06:54
Hijiriyeah06:54
Ci-Dev_I do not see anything there.06:54
Ci-Dev_Strange.06:54
Hijiriwell, I have the save06:55
Ci-Dev_Okay.06:55
Ci-Dev_Was fun.06:55
Hijiriyeah06:55
Ci-Dev_Yellow is gone now.06:55
Hijirialthough I was losing pretty badly06:55
Ci-Dev_And you go after green.06:55
Ci-Dev_Seen my fleets? :>06:55
Hijiriyeah, and I was already losing to my neighbors before you destroyed them06:56
Ci-Dev_I got multi-spectral shields.06:56
Ci-Dev_and you just have plasma +206:56
Ci-Dev_As far as my intelligence knows. :)06:56
Hijirimy growth stagnated since I couldn't find enough nice planets without running into monsters or neighbors06:56
Ci-Dev_Same problem here.06:57
Ci-Dev_But it was easier to go for the opponents than for the monsters.06:57
Ci-Dev_Like 2x 13 attack + 850 hp.06:57
Ci-Dev_No way to fight that early on.06:57
Ci-Dev_Expansion, expansion, expansion.06:58
Ci-Dev_:D06:58
HijiriD:06:58
Hijirianyways, good night06:58
Ci-Dev_Night.06:58
Ci-Dev_adesst: I really do not get it. What is this "GG" directory?06:59
Ci-Dev_se5a_: For the star gate - you just wait one turn and the ship moves through the star gate automatically. :)07:01
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adesstCi-Dev: i have rebuild all from scratch07:47
adessti am now stuck at CMake Error at src/CMakeLists.txt:80 (install):07:47
adesst  install TARGETS given no ARCHIVE DESTINATION for static library target07:47
adesstaha!08:07
adesstsetting the BUILD_DEVEL_PACKAGE to OFF solved my problem08:08
adesstplease http://pastebin.ca/299025909:07
tpbTitle: pastebin - adesst - post number 2990259 (at pastebin.ca)09:07
adesstwhat happened with libboost_thread?09:08
adessthttp://pastebin.ca/2990261 added with the dpkb info09:09
tpbTitle: pastebin - adesst - post number 2990261 (at pastebin.ca)09:09
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Ci-DevHijiri: Poke me if you are available.15:04
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adesstyeah is now compiling15:52
Ci-Dev:)16:03
adesstCi-Dev: :P16:05
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adesst1test16:30
adesst1ahhh the compilation does not go so well16:30
spookboop16:30
adesst1freeorioncommon.dir serializeuniverse failed16:31
adesst1lib64/libz.so hummmm...16:31
Ci-DevI really wonder why you have so many troubles.17:03
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Forty-3what happens when I capture someone's capitol?19:05
Ci-DevYou got one more planet.19:06
Ci-DevAnd the opponent can rebuild the cultural archive.19:06
Afdaland they lose some important buildings19:06
Ci-DevThat one does +10 RP and +10 PP or something.19:06
Afdalyeah19:07
Ci-DevQuite important in the beginning.19:07
Afdalnot quite as much in the future though19:07
Afdalso...19:08
Afdalyou guise been playing some online multiplayer in here?19:08
Forty-3do ai's normally have no fleet?19:08
Forty-3he has almost nothing that I can see and it's 175 turns in19:09
Afdalthey might have been fighting with someone else19:09
Forty-3but he could see my coming for his cap a mile away19:09
Forty-3shouldn't he have recalled something?19:09
Afdalbeats me19:12
Afdalhmm19:18
Afdalwhat does this number by the monopole magnets special mean now :o19:19
Afdalseems to be by some other specials too19:20
Ci-DevAfdal: I played with Hijiri yesterday.19:24
Afdalo:19:24
Ci-DevThe number is called "capacity". But no idea what it does. :p19:25
Afdaland what's this new description on Translinguistics alluding to19:27
Afdaldid my client just crash19:29
Afdalthat's not good...19:29
Ci-DevNo idea what you mean.19:30
Afdalhttp://gyazo.com/a279d34ae177b26074db6278cd4c0cb619:30
tpbTitle: Gyazo - a279d34ae177b26074db6278cd4c0cb6.png (at gyazo.com)19:30
Ci-DevThis "Does nothing." paragraph?19:31
Ci-DevThis has been there ever since I played. :)19:31
Afdal"later on this can enable peaceful colonization of native planets"19:32
AfdalI don't remember seeing that before19:32
Ci-DevI cannot remember it not being there.19:32
Ci-DevBut as I said, I never played 0.4.4.19:32
Afdalerr acquisition19:33
Ci-DevNow you need to send troops to conquer a native planet.19:34
Ci-DevMaybe later on, it is possible to create an own colony in the same system.19:34
Ci-DevAnd the natives then will join you with their planet.19:34
Ci-DevJust a guess about what it could mean.19:34
Ci-DevAfdal: What's your time zone?19:35
Afdalmountain standard time19:35
AfdalUS19:35
AfdalIt's 1:30 pm here now19:36
Ci-DevHijiri seems to be from CA. PST.19:36
Ci-DevSo maybe we can get more games running at the weekend.19:36
Ci-DevHave to see.19:36
Ci-DevI am from the future. :)19:37
Ci-DevBy 8 hours.19:37
Afdal:o19:37
Ci-DevFor the version to play, we can stick to the "Monday binaries" on SourceForge.19:39
Ci-DevSo all people are able to either download or compile that version. So we do not have conflicts.19:39
Ci-DevWe then just need to agree on a time slot.19:39
Ci-Dev150 systems, low planet density.19:40
Ci-Dev8-10 hours, should be doable.19:40
Afdallow planet density?19:40
Ci-DevHow many planets a system has on average.19:49
Ci-DevTHis is a universe generator setting.19:49
AfdalI know19:58
AfdalI think I usually play on normal density19:58
Afdalwhatever the default is19:58
Ci-DevYup. Normal.20:11
Ci-DevBut the only difference is that you have more planets to maintain.20:11
Ci-DevAnd it is easier to find a suitable planet during exploration/colonisation phase.20:11
Afdalnot sure why you'd want to play on low20:24
Afdalyou're in for a barren game20:25
Afdalwith higher density the probability of getting stuff like asteroid belts and gas giants increases too20:25
Afdalincreasing the chance of being able to take advantage of different types of technologies20:25
Afdalasteroid belts and gas giants in the same systems as habitable planets, I mean20:25
Ci-DevRight, but it slows down the game alot.20:36
Ci-DevYou have higher production, so you need less tactics but just spam ships.20:36
Ci-DevAnd in order to max out resources, you need to terraform and gaia the planets.20:36
Ci-DevAnd this takes really an amount of time to click through the lists of finished terraforming.20:37
Ci-DevAnd with more planets, comes more clicks.20:37
Ci-DevSo the turns are longer. This might be annoying in multiplayer.20:37
Afdalnot sure I necessarily agree >.>20:37
Afdaloh maybe the number by the specials20:39
Afdalis the number of turns you can make use of them20:39
AfdalHave you ever made use of Force-Energy Camouflage?20:41
AfdalI can never figure out what the point of that tech is20:41
Afdalit doesn't increase building stealth by a whole lot, and it has a lot of tech prerequisites so you can't get it until mid game anyway20:41
Ci-DevThe number does not seem to decrease.21:14
Ci-DevAt least it did not last time I checked.21:14
Afdaloh maybe it's the number of extra population they can support in your empire21:19
Ci-DevMaybe. But how do I figure out if I need to focus on another one?21:20
Ci-DevThat number is zero then?21:20
Ci-DevAnd about that building stealth … no idea. :)21:20
Ci-DevIf you are very high-tech and others are not, you can go invisible and unattackable.21:20
Ci-DevBut as you then have the required fleet anyway, you can just fight back.21:20
Ci-DevSo no idea.21:21
HijiriI can play now21:34
Hijirithough I don't know for how long21:34
Hijiriat least a few hours21:34
HijiriCi-Dev: ^21:36
Afdalare you two continuing yer last game21:40
Afdalor can I join :o21:40
Ci-DevHijiri: Hi.21:49
Ci-DevHijiri: Here?21:50
Hijirihi21:50
Hijiribut brb a few minutes21:50
Ci-DevOkay.21:51
Ci-DevAfdal: From yesterday.21:51
Afdalokay21:51
Afdalhave fun :321:52
Ci-DevMaybe we can play with you next weekend?21:52
Afdalmayhaps :)21:52
Ci-DevYou are on Windows, right?21:54
Afdalat the moment21:54
AfdalHaven't tried getting FreeOrion installed on loonix before21:55
Hijiriback21:55
Ci-Devwb21:55
Ci-DevSame IP?21:55
Hijiriyep21:55
Ci-Devomw21:55
HijiriAfdal: It's easier on debian than windows, in my opinion21:55
HijiriI haven't installed it anywhere else21:55
Ci-DevHE can use the binaries provided on SourceForge.21:56
Hijirioh yeah21:56
Hijirihow often are those built?21:56
Ci-Devonvce a week21:57
Ci-Devroughly21:57
Ci-DevI am in the lobby.21:57
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