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| Hijiri | where do people usually go to find games? | 00:44 |
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| tomreyn | here sometimes | 01:00 |
| tomreyn | but there aren't very many :-/ | 01:00 |
| tomreyn | well, nothing that can't be changed - just not today ;) | 01:01 |
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| Afdal | I like playan FreeOrion online D:> | 01:57 |
| Hijiri | I feel like it would be hard to find someone who would be available in the same timeframe | 02:24 |
| Hijiri | with how time-consuming 4X/GSG are | 02:24 |
| Hijiri | I guess that's what save games are for though | 02:25 |
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| Ci-Dev | Hijiri: I am up for a game. And I have a timeslot of 8 hours now. :) | 13:25 |
| Ci-Dev | Still here? | 13:25 |
| Ci-Dev | I am using freeorion.2015-05-01.1e2e06328792bd45bb74dd79da00e073e2d7768c, I do not have incoming ports configured, so you host, I guess. :) | 13:26 |
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| adesst | need help please | 14:38 |
| adesst | i am stuck at compiling freeorion | 14:38 |
| adesst | it stops with Could NOT find TIFF (missing: TIFF_INCLUDE_DIR) | 14:39 |
| adesst | here is my packages list info, http://pastebin.ca/2987434 | 14:42 |
| tpb | Title: pastebin - adesanto asman - post number 2987434 (at pastebin.ca) | 14:42 |
| adesst | nevermind, i have solved it. How do i solved it, Could NOT find TIFF (missing: TIFF_INCLUDE_DIR), is `$ cmake -DTIFF_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/ .` add the define at the cmake options | 14:54 |
| Ci-Dev | For me it works. I am using Kubuntu instead Xubuntu, but the base should be the same. | 15:05 |
| Ci-Dev | TIFF_INCLUDE_DIR:PATH=/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu | 15:06 |
| Ci-Dev | This is from my CMakeCache.txt - auto-detected. | 15:07 |
| Ci-Dev | I am using "ccmake" by the way. | 15:07 |
| Hijiri | sorry, was asleep | 15:25 |
| Hijiri | and I have some stuff I have to get done toda | 15:25 |
| Hijiri | y | 15:25 |
| Ci-Dev | Hijiri: Will you have time today? | 15:29 |
| Ci-Dev | In the evening or so? | 15:29 |
| Hijiri | most likely | 15:30 |
| Ci-Dev | When will that be, in UTC? | 15:30 |
| Ci-Dev | Right now it is 15:29 UTC. | 15:31 |
| Hijiri | I think it will be about 23:00 UTC | 15:31 |
| Hijiri | I'm just guessing though, I don't know how long the thing will take | 15:31 |
| Hijiri | this is a conservative estimate | 15:31 |
| Ci-Dev | Okay. I'll check back later then. :) | 15:31 |
| Ci-Dev | No worries. | 15:31 |
| adesst | Ci-Dev: how did you set the ccmake to do the auto-detection? | 15:36 |
| Ci-Dev | It automatically does this. | 15:37 |
| adesst | i am struggling with the SDL2, though i had installed it yet GG/cmake could not find it | 15:37 |
| Ci-Dev | I basically have a git checkout, then I do a "mkdir build", "cd build" and "ccmake ..". | 15:37 |
| Ci-Dev | Then press "c" for configure. | 15:37 |
| Ci-Dev | And that's it. | 15:37 |
| Ci-Dev | You need to install the 'dev' libraries. | 15:37 |
| Ci-Dev | libsdl2-dev | 15:38 |
| Ci-Dev | Not so long ago, they changed SDL to SDL2. | 15:38 |
| adesst | i had installed libsdl2-dev | 15:38 |
| adesst | and too i have a git checkout | 15:39 |
| Ci-Dev | So which message to you get from cmake? | 15:39 |
| adesst | this is the message so far, http://pastebin.ca/2987497 | 15:43 |
| tpb | Title: pastebin - adesst - post number 2987497 (at pastebin.ca) | 15:43 |
| adesst | if i use the ccmake, the list shows me alot of macros that value is NOTFOUND | 15:45 |
| Ci-Dev | Hm. | 15:46 |
| Ci-Dev | libogre-1.8-dev | 15:46 |
| Ci-Dev | I have that installed via apt-get. ccmake picks it up. | 15:46 |
| adesst | yet i dont know how to set the cmake to do the auto-detection. All of these hours i only read the cmake errors and tries to locate the libs and do the linkage or pass it to cmake options | 15:46 |
| adesst | wait let me do the dpkg | 15:46 |
| Ci-Dev | Can you try from scratch? | 15:47 |
| Ci-Dev | mkdir build2; cd build2; ccmake .. | 15:47 |
| Ci-Dev | And GiGi comes bundled in the repository. | 15:48 |
| adesst | i have appended the previous pastebin to http://pastebin.ca/2987500, the dpkg shows me that libogre are installed | 15:48 |
| tpb | Title: pastebin - adesst - post number 2987500 (at pastebin.ca) | 15:48 |
| Ci-Dev | /opt/freeorion/GG - Why do you run in that directory? | 15:49 |
| adesst | nah? | 15:49 |
| Ci-Dev | You lack the "-dev" package. | 15:49 |
| adesst | i dont know if there is a "direction" to use build dir | 15:49 |
| adesst | argghh! | 15:49 |
| adesst | i have should noticed that, sloppy-me! thx Ci-Dev to point that out | 15:50 |
| adesst | wait let me do the build dir thins | 15:50 |
| adesst | things* | 15:50 |
| Ci-Dev | So what I did: | 15:50 |
| Ci-Dev | I create a new directory ~/repository/freeorion | 15:50 |
| Ci-Dev | There, I do a "git clone" | 15:51 |
| Ci-Dev | Then an "mkdir build", "cd build", "ccmake ..". | 15:51 |
| Ci-Dev | And after apt-get installing the libraries, it just compiled. | 15:51 |
| adesst | nahhh | 15:52 |
| adesst | :P | 15:52 |
| Ci-Dev | I did not need to compile GG manually. | 15:52 |
| Ci-Dev | As you run cmake in the GG directory. | 15:52 |
| adesst | now things getting insteresting | 15:52 |
| adesst | i unable to install libogre-1.8-dev since it requires libboost-1.5.4 and i am using 1.5.5 | 15:53 |
| adesst | i really shud take some rest | 15:53 |
| adesst | :D | 15:53 |
| adesst | thank you so much Ci-Dev. will retry all of if by remove all those package and start from scratch as you have told me. Thanks again | 15:54 |
| Ci-Dev | Why do you have 1.55 installed? | 15:54 |
| Ci-Dev | 1.54 comes with Ubutnu 14.04. | 15:54 |
| Ci-Dev | :) | 15:55 |
| Ci-Dev | dpkg --list | grep boost | 15:55 |
| adesst | i i manually picked it up using the apt-get.. :(( | 15:56 |
| Ci-Dev | I see. | 15:56 |
| Ci-Dev | I sticked to what (K)Ubuntu 14.04 comes with. | 15:57 |
| Ci-Dev | Works. :p | 15:57 |
| adesst | nice to hear that you compiled it with no problem at all **thumbs up** | 15:58 |
| Ci-Dev | Well, I just had problems with boost. | 15:58 |
| Ci-Dev | It comes in soo many packages that it took a while to figure out which to install. | 15:59 |
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| adesst | true :D | 16:16 |
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| * Ci-Dev looks at Hijiri. | 20:11 | |
| Afdal | :o | 20:28 |
| Afdal | chatter | 20:28 |
| Afdal | in MY #freeorion ??? | 20:28 |
| spook | It's more likely than you think! | 20:29 |
| Ci-Dev | People are alive here! | 20:32 |
| Ci-Dev | zomg | 20:32 |
| Afdal | #wow #whoa | 20:38 |
| Afdal | any minute we'll be getting some online multiplayer going ;) | 20:39 |
| spook | wow let's not go crazy here | 20:39 |
| Ci-Dev | That's why I am here. | 20:39 |
| Afdal | me too <:V | 20:39 |
| Ci-Dev | Pizza in the oven already, then I am ready for the night. | 20:39 |
| spook | I can barely figure out how the interface works, so I don't see myself doing any online multiplayer | 20:40 |
| Ci-Dev | I even have d453abb279ecb8c71bd1b4978a0710ac871dd36d compiled already - latest git master. :D | 20:40 |
| Ci-Dev | o_O | 20:41 |
| Afdal | O.o | 20:41 |
| Afdal | I mostly just stick to vezzra's monday builds | 20:41 |
| Ci-Dev | You do not need to figure out the interface, figure out the game dynamics! | 20:41 |
| Ci-Dev | What … Monday builds … vezzra? Huh? | 20:42 |
| spook | i can't even make ships move or change production | 20:42 |
| spook | so yeah there's a lot to figure out :P | 20:42 |
| Ci-Dev | Did you play the game already, once? | 20:42 |
| spook | i played moo2 | 20:43 |
| spook | and thought this would be familiar | 20:43 |
| Ci-Dev | FreeOrion is a different game. | 20:43 |
| Afdal | this thread Ci-Dev http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4208&start=270 | 20:43 |
| tpb | Title: FreeOrion View topic - Recent Windows Builds (at www.freeorion.org) | 20:43 |
| Ci-Dev | The star lanes make me think of Ascendancy all the time. | 20:43 |
| Ci-Dev | I like it. | 20:43 |
| Afdal | I used to really enjoy this old Mac game called | 20:43 |
| Afdal | uh | 20:44 |
| Afdal | Galactica A.D. | 20:44 |
| Afdal | it was really simple | 20:44 |
| Ci-Dev | Never heard of that one- | 20:44 |
| Afdal | but it did the same starlane thing | 20:44 |
| Ci-Dev | Do you know Konquest for KDE? | 20:44 |
| Afdal | nope | 20:44 |
| Afdal | is that a Kubuntu game :V | 20:44 |
| Ci-Dev | No. | 20:44 |
| Ci-Dev | It's a KDE game. | 20:44 |
| Afdal | KDE = | 20:45 |
| Afdal | Kubuntu Desktop Environment | 20:45 |
| Ci-Dev | Any distribution using KDE can run it. | 20:45 |
| Afdal | :o | 20:45 |
| Afdal | so it is related then | 20:45 |
| Ci-Dev | Wow. It's not even 1st April and still fools around. ;) | 20:45 |
| Afdal | D:> | 20:45 |
| Afdal | s-sorry | 20:45 |
| Ci-Dev | It even runs on Windows. | 20:45 |
| Ci-Dev | There is KDE for Windows. | 20:45 |
| Ci-Dev | And that link only has builds for Windows. o_O | 20:45 |
| Afdal | O_o | 20:46 |
| Ci-Dev | How do I run an .exe file? | 20:46 |
| Afdal | with WINE | 20:46 |
| Afdal | xd | 20:46 |
| Ci-Dev | I got WINE in my frige. | 20:46 |
| Ci-Dev | How do I get the file therE? | 20:46 |
| spook | i've got rum will that help? | 20:46 |
| Ci-Dev | Not sure. | 20:47 |
| Ci-Dev | We got wine, we got rum and we got an .exe file. | 20:47 |
| Ci-Dev | A fridge is involed as well. | 20:47 |
| Ci-Dev | How does that fit together? | 20:47 |
| Ci-Dev | I mean, it does, except for that .exe file. | 20:47 |
| Ci-Dev | That one doesn't play nicely. | 20:47 |
| Ci-Dev | We rumours say that this is what .exe files are good for. Getting rid of any fun. | 20:48 |
| Ci-Dev | *But | 20:48 |
| Ci-Dev | And there are many of those in the Internetz! | 20:48 |
| Ci-Dev | :( | 20:48 |
| Ci-Dev | It used to be a fun place. | 20:49 |
| spook | there, there | 20:49 |
| * Ci-Dev looks around. | 20:49 | |
| Ci-Dev | Where again? | 20:49 |
| spook | sorry i was confused | 20:49 |
| spook | thought i saw something | 20:49 |
| Ci-Dev | Must be the rum in action already. ;) | 20:50 |
| spook | not yet | 20:50 |
| spook | i'm out of coke | 20:50 |
| spook | so no rum... yet | 20:50 |
| Ci-Dev | Do you know what? | 20:50 |
| Ci-Dev | That .exe file took it all. | 20:50 |
| Ci-Dev | Again, spoiled the fun. | 20:50 |
| spook | that fucker! | 20:50 |
| Ci-Dev | Indeed. | 20:50 |
| spook | i heard that mussolini invented .exe files | 20:50 |
| Ci-Dev | Oh, really? | 20:51 |
| spook | yep | 20:51 |
| Ci-Dev | Ever heard of "yarly"? ;) | 20:51 |
| Ci-Dev | I was about to mention this "no waii" already. | 20:52 |
| Ci-Dev | Too bad. | 20:52 |
| Ci-Dev | I bet he died by the hands of an .exe file. | 20:52 |
| spook | how sad | 20:52 |
| Ci-Dev | Most of the malware around comes as .exe files. | 20:53 |
| Ci-Dev | Do I need to say any more? It's obvious! | 20:53 |
| Afdal | 20:54 | |
| Ci-Dev | Guess that's the heritage. | 20:54 |
| Ci-Dev | *his | 20:54 |
| spook | :) | 20:54 |
| Ci-Dev | Get rid the fun out of the Internetz for all coming generations! | 20:55 |
| spook | someone call the dance commander | 20:56 |
| spook | he will give out the order for fun | 20:56 |
| Ci-Dev | Sooo, do we get something running after my pizza? | 20:56 |
| spook | i'm gonna pass out probably | 20:56 |
| spook | spent like seven hours walking around town playing ingress :P | 20:56 |
| Ci-Dev | And the dance commander is easily available! Just download, double click, and enjoy! - THAT .EXE FILE!!!1 | 20:57 |
| Ci-Dev | Oh, for world domination! Yay. ;) | 20:57 |
| tomreyn | iloveyou.exe ? | 20:57 |
| Ci-Dev | Guess so. :) | 20:58 |
| Ci-Dev | Got it by e-mail? | 20:58 |
| Ci-Dev | Double click! :D | 20:58 |
| tomreyn | yes, but it's from someone i know, so its safe | 20:58 |
| Ci-Dev | :D | 20:58 |
| spook | it's a good thing e-mails can't be faked | 20:58 |
| Ci-Dev | Wish I would get more stuff from people I know. | 20:58 |
| tomreyn | you could sign up with a social network and have each other reminded you need to send each other stuff | 20:59 |
| Afdal | probably not today | 21:00 |
| spook | you could make your own social network | 21:00 |
| Afdal | but I would like to play some freeorion | 21:00 |
| Afdal | with other people | 21:00 |
| spook | use the right buzzwords and it'll be web scale | 21:00 |
| Afdal | over the interbuttz | 21:00 |
| Ci-Dev | Afdal: We can give it a go. | 21:01 |
| Ci-Dev | But no idea how good I am. | 21:01 |
| Ci-Dev | low skillz, looking for ffa | 21:01 |
| Afdal | last time I played with someone, | 21:01 |
| Afdal | can't remember if it was the last official build | 21:02 |
| Afdal | or an experimental build, but | 21:02 |
| Afdal | the AI failed to loaded from save after we took a break | 21:02 |
| Afdal | something to remember | 21:02 |
| Ci-Dev | Then just do not do a break. :) | 21:02 |
| Afdal | :o | 21:02 |
| Ci-Dev | It takes about 8-10 hours to conquer the default universe. | 21:03 |
| Ci-Dev | Maybe 200-300 turns, depending on how bad the start is. | 21:03 |
| Ci-Dev | d453abb279ecb8c71bd1b4978a0710ac871dd36d | 21:04 |
| Ci-Dev | I have that version. | 21:04 |
| Afdal | @_@ | 21:04 |
| Ci-Dev | Afdal: Do you think you are compatible? | 21:04 |
| Ci-Dev | It's latest git master. | 21:04 |
| Afdal | what SVN is it | 21:04 |
| Ci-Dev | It's beyond SVN. | 21:04 |
| Ci-Dev | They converted SVN to git some weeks ago. | 21:04 |
| Afdal | :O | 21:04 |
| Ci-Dev | There is no SVN anymore for FreeOrion. | 21:04 |
| Afdal | o rly | 21:05 |
| Ci-Dev | yarly! | 21:05 |
| Afdal | intredesting | 21:05 |
| Ci-Dev | Guess versions should be compatible. | 21:05 |
| Ci-Dev | There is a 4x troop module now since 2 or so weeks. | 21:06 |
| Afdal | what's the date on your build then | 21:06 |
| Ci-Dev | Today. :) | 21:06 |
| Afdal | those ugly hash numbers are useless | 21:06 |
| Afdal | uh huh... | 21:06 |
| Ci-Dev | It took only 1 minute to compile. Not much changed since yesterday. | 21:06 |
| Afdal | well the latest windows build that's been compiled is build 2015-04-27.21dc679 | 21:06 |
| Ci-Dev | Hm. | 21:07 |
| Ci-Dev | Let's see, | 21:07 |
| Afdal | if it's more recent than that I'll have to compile shit | 21:07 |
| Afdal | which I've never done with freeorion | 21:07 |
| Afdal | maybe it's easier on linux | 21:07 |
| Ci-Dev | Are you on Ubuntu? | 21:07 |
| Ci-Dev | Oh. Windows. | 21:07 |
| Afdal | I can jump to my xubuntu partition | 21:07 |
| Afdal | :3 | 21:07 |
| Ci-Dev | There are unlucky people out there. I something forget. ;) | 21:07 |
| Ci-Dev | Maybe I have a version around. I check. | 21:08 |
| Afdal | 4x troop module | 21:08 |
| Afdal | do you have to research that? | 21:08 |
| Ci-Dev | Of course. | 21:08 |
| Afdal | good | 21:08 |
| Ci-Dev | Standard is 2x. | 21:08 |
| Ci-Dev | I have freeorion.2015-04-26.601f286c9ca24a9b0390a48bc061fe1e1a5f73c7. | 21:09 |
| Afdal | o: | 21:09 |
| Ci-Dev | No idea if it is compatible. | 21:09 |
| Ci-Dev | There are maybe 10 commits in between. | 21:09 |
| Ci-Dev | Any idea how I can check out a given revision in git? | 21:11 |
| Ci-Dev | Compiling will take 2-3 hours. | 21:11 |
| Ci-Dev | Or maybe only 1. | 21:11 |
| Ci-Dev | Don't know. | 21:11 |
| tomreyn | you can usually find mostly current, and often compatible builds, on sourceforge | 21:13 |
| Ci-Dev | Okay, I see. | 21:17 |
| Ci-Dev | They are for Windows or MacOS X only there. | 21:17 |
| Ci-Dev | But at least I now know how to get "official" test build revision hashes. | 21:18 |
| Ci-Dev | It compiles now. | 21:23 |
| Ci-Dev | 13% compiled already. | 21:36 |
| Ci-Dev | Afdal: Have a microphone? | 21:36 |
| Ci-Dev | Want to try Firefox Hello? | 21:37 |
| Afdal | no mic | 21:37 |
| Afdal | {: | 21:37 |
| Ci-Dev | Have a webcam? Can turn off picture. | 21:37 |
| Ci-Dev | Done with pizza, one moment. | 21:38 |
| Afdal | nope -_- | 21:38 |
| Afdal | You did read the part about me not wanting to play today right | 21:38 |
| Afdal | I'm enthusiastic about freeorion netplay | 21:38 |
| Afdal | just a little busy today | 21:38 |
| Afdal | for one of those games | 21:38 |
| Ci-Dev | Ohhh. | 21:38 |
| Afdal | >.> | 21:39 |
| Ci-Dev | I see. | 21:39 |
| Ci-Dev | No problem then. | 21:39 |
| Ci-Dev | Compiling takes ages as well. | 21:39 |
| Ci-Dev | I am curious about how others play. | 21:39 |
| Ci-Dev | AI is just too weak. | 21:39 |
| Afdal | I like pumping dat tech | 21:40 |
| Afdal | what do you usually start with | 21:40 |
| Afdal | I go with that first tech upgrade and then the easier growth upgrade | 21:40 |
| Ci-Dev | Go for Nascal to get +2 research bonus. | 21:40 |
| Afdal | yeah | 21:40 |
| Ci-Dev | Then for Robotic Hulls to get auto-repait. | 21:40 |
| Afdal | the research bonus | 21:40 |
| Afdal | and then the growth bonus | 21:40 |
| Afdal | Doesn't that only work on robotic hulls though | 21:41 |
| Ci-Dev | Then I go for Organic Hulls, to get cheap Troop and Colonisation transports. | 21:41 |
| Afdal | so do you always use robotic hulls :} | 21:41 |
| Ci-Dev | And then Mass Driver 4. | 21:41 |
| Afdal | D:> | 21:41 |
| Afdal | I always skip straight to laser | 21:41 |
| Ci-Dev | Then I try to get some Growth bonuses, depending on how many planets there are for colonisation. | 21:41 |
| Ci-Dev | And I somehow try to get Automatic something, for the +5 industry bonus. | 21:42 |
| Ci-Dev | Then I am looking for some telepaths to conquer. | 21:42 |
| Afdal | o: | 21:42 |
| Ci-Dev | Get Psionic and then Distributed something. | 21:42 |
| Ci-Dev | 100 RP instead of 600 RP. | 21:42 |
| Ci-Dev | Makes a difference. :) | 21:43 |
| Afdal | indeed | 21:43 |
| Ci-Dev | But I generally focus on growth an expansion. | 21:43 |
| Ci-Dev | The rest comes automatically. :) | 21:44 |
| Afdal | you know what's fun sometimes | 21:44 |
| Ci-Dev | No, but I believe you will tell me. :) | 21:44 |
| Afdal | pick laenfa and then pump stealth techs | 21:44 |
| Ci-Dev | I don't like them. | 21:44 |
| Ci-Dev | phototrophic | 21:45 |
| Afdal | That might even be a little unbalanced actually | 21:45 |
| Afdal | the AI sure can't handle it | 21:45 |
| Afdal | Laenfa da bes | 21:45 |
| Ci-Dev | Play them m in a young universe … population win. | 21:45 |
| Afdal | dat extra vision is essential | 21:45 |
| Ci-Dev | Really? | 21:45 |
| Ci-Dev | I play Etty. | 21:45 |
| Ci-Dev | They have -25 scan. | 21:45 |
| Afdal | knowing what your opponents are up to is one of the most valuable resources I think | 21:45 |
| Ci-Dev | Right. | 21:46 |
| Afdal | then you can do stuff like | 21:46 |
| Afdal | intercept scouts | 21:46 |
| Ci-Dev | Scanners can be researched. | 21:46 |
| Afdal | without them figuring anything out | 21:46 |
| Ci-Dev | Scouts are soo cheap. I just build some and let they observe. | 21:46 |
| Ci-Dev | No need for scanners early on. | 21:46 |
| Ci-Dev | However, in end-game, this bonus is useless. | 21:50 |
| Ci-Dev | The only bonus that counts is +population and +pilots. | 21:50 |
| Ci-Dev | Rest is useless. | 21:50 |
| Ci-Dev | Even +industry or +research is interesting the the beginning but neglectable later on. | 21:50 |
| Afdal | I must admit I haven't played through in a while | 21:51 |
| Afdal | curious what balance elements have changed | 21:51 |
| Ci-Dev | I nearly never play though. Too boring in the end. | 21:52 |
| Ci-Dev | I once killed all. | 21:52 |
| Afdal | :} | 21:52 |
| Ci-Dev | But that's not a win condition yet. | 21:52 |
| Afdal | it is | 21:52 |
| Ci-Dev | No. | 21:52 |
| Ci-Dev | Not yet. | 21:52 |
| Afdal | but they have't programmed the ending in | 21:52 |
| Ci-Dev | lol | 21:52 |
| Ci-Dev | So it is not yes. | 21:52 |
| Ci-Dev | *yet | 21:52 |
| Ci-Dev | Already is winning by researching Trancendence(sp). | 21:53 |
| Ci-Dev | Or by defeating the Experimentators. | 21:53 |
| Ci-Dev | However, I never won against them yet. | 21:53 |
| Afdal | I've never ran into the experimentators | 21:53 |
| Afdal | I don't know why | 21:53 |
| Afdal | I've played a lot of games until I slaughter everything on the map too | 21:53 |
| Ci-Dev | Hm. | 21:53 |
| Ci-Dev | They are on a system you cannot reach. | 21:53 |
| Ci-Dev | And they seem to start their action as soon as you can scan them. | 21:54 |
| Ci-Dev | You need Omniscanners for them. | 21:54 |
| Ci-Dev | Then they will spawn monsters. | 21:54 |
| Ci-Dev | They have 1k health and maybe 60 atk. | 21:54 |
| Ci-Dev | 4k health | 21:54 |
| Ci-Dev | And they spawn in groups of 5. | 21:54 |
| Ci-Dev | Needs quite a fleet for get them down. | 21:55 |
| Ci-Dev | And they are damn fast. | 21:55 |
| Ci-Dev | Star lane speed of +100. | 21:55 |
| Ci-Dev | So they jump in one turn to the next system. | 21:55 |
| Ci-Dev | 33% compiled ;) | 21:55 |
| Afdal | what version are you compiling now | 21:56 |
| Ci-Dev | Building v0.4.4+ build 2015-04-27.21dc679 | 21:56 |
| Afdal | ah | 21:56 |
| Afdal | I'll download that build for later then | 21:56 |
| Ci-Dev | The latest one available on SourceForge for testing. | 21:57 |
| Ci-Dev | Nanotech Cybernetics unlocks the ship part "Advanced Ground Troop Pod", which has twice the cost and twice the capacity of the regular one. | 21:58 |
| Ci-Dev | Since 31st March. | 21:58 |
| Afdal | neat | 21:58 |
| Ci-Dev | What troop transports do you build in the mid-/endgame? | 21:58 |
| Afdal | what are those first quantum hulls called again | 21:59 |
| Ci-Dev | They only have 2 lots? | 21:59 |
| Afdal | 1 slot | 21:59 |
| Afdal | those are super useful for fielding a steady invasion | 21:59 |
| Ci-Dev | Tracker is how the AI calls the scouts. | 21:59 |
| Ci-Dev | Hm. | 22:00 |
| Ci-Dev | They have 5 HP. | 22:00 |
| Afdal | they'll be even better now with this troop pod upgrade | 22:00 |
| Afdal | yeah | 22:00 |
| Afdal | and 120 speed | 22:00 |
| Ci-Dev | +5 HP bonus from a tech. | 22:00 |
| Ci-Dev | I build crystaline asteroids. | 22:00 |
| Ci-Dev | 57 HP, and speed of 100. | 22:00 |
| Ci-Dev | 60 base + 2x 20 speed | 22:00 |
| Ci-Dev | 4 slots for troops | 22:01 |
| Afdal | I don't like to put much resources into troop ships | 22:01 |
| Afdal | since you end up losing them anyway | 22:01 |
| Ci-Dev | Right, but you gained a planet. | 22:01 |
| Ci-Dev | Mines 4 do a damage of 14 per round. | 22:01 |
| Afdal | oh? | 22:01 |
| Ci-Dev | That's … deadly for those weak ships. | 22:01 |
| Afdal | since when | 22:01 |
| Ci-Dev | Ever since. | 22:01 |
| Afdal | oh mines 4 | 22:01 |
| Ci-Dev | Yes. | 22:01 |
| Afdal | wait there's a mine 4 tech now? | 22:02 |
| Ci-Dev | There is not? | 22:02 |
| Ci-Dev | Or Mines 3? | 22:02 |
| Afdal | though system defense mines only went to 3 | 22:02 |
| Ci-Dev | I mean the best mines. :) | 22:02 |
| Ci-Dev | No idea about the number. | 22:02 |
| Afdal | well, everything has a counter :) | 22:02 |
| Afdal | so that's good | 22:02 |
| Afdal | the AI never techs system defense mines | 22:03 |
| Afdal | unfortunately | 22:03 |
| Ci-Dev | It does, | 22:03 |
| Afdal | :o | 22:03 |
| Ci-Dev | That's why my organic troops die sometimes. | 22:03 |
| Afdal | must be a recent improvement :v | 22:03 |
| Ci-Dev | Ever since. | 22:04 |
| Ci-Dev | But the AI hardly gets that far. | 22:04 |
| Ci-Dev | Depends on how fast you are. | 22:04 |
| Ci-Dev | Okay, only 3 mines. :) | 22:06 |
| Ci-Dev | 2, 6 and 14 damage | 22:06 |
| Afdal | I see | 22:06 |
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| Ci-Dev | Hijiri: Which version of FreeOrion do you actually have? | 22:42 |
| Hijiri | let me check | 22:44 |
| Hijiri | it's SVN 7640 | 22:44 |
| Ci-Dev | And, are you on Windows? | 22:44 |
| Hijiri | I'm assuming that's old because it's SVN | 22:44 |
| Hijiri | debian | 22:44 |
| Ci-Dev | Hm. Okay. :o | 22:44 |
| Hijiri | I found this game by looking for freedomware games I could play on linux | 22:45 |
| Ci-Dev | Looks like we have different versions. | 22:45 |
| Hijiri | should I get a newer one? | 22:45 |
| Hijiri | I'm just using repo version | 22:45 |
| Ci-Dev | How and which? :) | 22:45 |
| Ci-Dev | Oh 0.4.4? | 22:45 |
| Hijiri | I am 0.4.4 | 22:45 |
| Ci-Dev | Wow. That one is more than 1 year old. | 22:45 |
| Ci-Dev | Hm. | 22:45 |
| Hijiri | oh | 22:46 |
| Hijiri | maybe I'll try compiling it | 22:46 |
| Ci-Dev | I have current git master compiled, and right now I am compiling … | 22:46 |
| Ci-Dev | Building v0.4.4+ build 2015-04-27.21dc679 | 22:46 |
| Ci-Dev | I just have an Atom D525, so compiling takes … hours. | 22:46 |
| Ci-Dev | But if you have enough RAM, you can make -j8 or so. :) | 22:47 |
| Hijiri | yeah | 22:47 |
| Ci-Dev | *and cores | 22:47 |
| Hijiri | I'm pulling up the compile instructions | 22:47 |
| Ci-Dev | It is pretty straight forward. | 22:47 |
| Ci-Dev | I am on Kubuntu. | 22:47 |
| Ci-Dev | So quite close to Debian. :) | 22:48 |
| Ci-Dev | I'd say: | 22:48 |
| Ci-Dev | git clone | 22:48 |
| Ci-Dev | git checkout d453abb279ecb8c71bd1b4978a0710ac871dd36d | 22:48 |
| Ci-Dev | mkdir build | 22:48 |
| Ci-Dev | cd build | 22:48 |
| Ci-Dev | ccmake .. | 22:48 |
| Ci-Dev | Likely d453abb279ecb8c71bd1b4978a0710ac871dd36d still is master. | 22:49 |
| Ci-Dev | It was at least hours ago. | 22:49 |
| Hijiri | how do I set prefix with cmake? | 22:49 |
| Ci-Dev | use ccmake | 22:49 |
| Ci-Dev | That has a text ui. | 22:49 |
| Hijiri | I don't have ccmake | 22:50 |
| Ci-Dev | cmake-ncurses-gui | 22:50 |
| Hijiri | nevermind, I found option for prefix | 22:50 |
| Ci-Dev | sudo apt-get install cmake-curses-gui | 22:50 |
| Ci-Dev | Okay, great. | 22:50 |
| Hijiri | have to install some deps first | 22:51 |
| Ci-Dev | Okay. | 22:51 |
| Ci-Dev | I got it running with stock Ubuntu 14.04 packages. No need to install libraries on my own. | 22:52 |
| Ci-Dev | *compiling | 22:52 |
| Hijiri | yeah, I'm using the repo libraries | 22:52 |
| Hijiri | whoops | 22:56 |
| Hijiri | I killed all my memory | 22:56 |
| Hijiri | maybe -j4 instead | 22:56 |
| Ci-Dev | Haha. | 22:56 |
| Ci-Dev | Happens here as well. | 22:56 |
| Ci-Dev | -j2 and only 4 GiB of RAM. | 22:56 |
| Ci-Dev | But it seems to be freeorionparse. | 22:57 |
| Ci-Dev | The rest works. | 22:57 |
| Ci-Dev | Only this library takes much memory for compilation. | 22:57 |
| Hijiri | it seems like my computer only swaps if it's forced to | 22:59 |
| Hijiri | so if I run out of RAM, or if I use some program whose memory was swapped out | 23:00 |
| Hijiri | oh, build failed | 23:08 |
| Ci-Dev | Due to RAM? | 23:08 |
| Hijiri | no | 23:08 |
| Hijiri | says some references are undefined | 23:08 |
| Hijiri | FreeOrionVersionString | 23:08 |
| Ci-Dev | Ah. | 23:08 |
| Ci-Dev | I had that one as well some time ago. | 23:09 |
| Ci-Dev | Which version do you compile? | 23:09 |
| Hijiri | git master head | 23:09 |
| Ci-Dev | It went away after I cleared my build directory and started without previous files. | 23:09 |
| Hijiri | is make clean insufficient | 23:09 |
| Ci-Dev | No idea. | 23:09 |
| Ci-Dev | I removed it. | 23:09 |
| Ci-Dev | ../libfreeorioncommon.so: undefined reference to `FreeOrionVersionString()' | 23:11 |
| Ci-Dev | O had that one. | 23:11 |
| Ci-Dev | I | 23:11 |
| Hijiri | build properly after a make clean | 23:27 |
| Ci-Dev | Great. | 23:27 |
| Ci-Dev | Which master did you use? | 23:28 |
| Hijiri | I am make installing now | 23:28 |
| Ci-Dev | What's the revision hash? | 23:28 |
| Hijiri | the github repo | 23:28 |
| Hijiri | f077b227aba... | 23:28 |
| Hijiri | unless I looked at the wrong thing | 23:29 |
| Ci-Dev | Okay, I seem to have a slightly older version. Cannot check right now. | 23:29 |
| Ci-Dev | But we can try. | 23:30 |
| Ci-Dev | You host? | 23:30 |
| Ci-Dev | Do you have a microphone? | 23:30 |
| Hijiri | hold on, let me check my config | 23:30 |
| Hijiri | I have a microphone | 23:30 |
| Hijiri | does FO have voice chat? | 23:30 |
| Ci-Dev | Want to try Firefox Hello? | 23:30 |
| Ci-Dev | Not that I am aware of. :) | 23:30 |
| Hijiri | I use freeorion's mouse/keyboard capture, so I wouldn't be able to control the chat during the game | 23:30 |
| Ci-Dev | One Moment. | 23:30 |
| Ci-Dev | It is just voice. | 23:31 |
| Ci-Dev | Either talk or listen or whatever. :) | 23:31 |
| Hijiri | actually | 23:31 |
| Hijiri | I deisabled keyboard grab | 23:31 |
| Hijiri | because it is working properly now | 23:31 |
| Hijiri | the old version I had would break text input if I didn't turn on keyboard grab | 23:31 |
| Ci-Dev | I think I never played 0.4.4. :) | 23:32 |
| Ci-Dev | I am waiting for an IP then. | 23:32 |
| Hijiri | is firefox hello freedomware? | 23:32 |
| Ci-Dev | It is built into your Firefox. | 23:32 |
| Hijiri | I use iceweasel | 23:33 |
| Ci-Dev | Do you have a chat symbol? | 23:33 |
| Hijiri | where? | 23:33 |
| Ci-Dev | In default toolbar. | 23:33 |
| Ci-Dev | If not, hit "customise" and check there. | 23:33 |
| Ci-Dev | It is called "hello". | 23:33 |
| Hijiri | it's not in the customize menu | 23:34 |
| Hijiri | I'm updating iceweasel though, maybe it's in a newer version | 23:34 |
| Ci-Dev | One moment, I just give you a link. | 23:34 |
| Ci-Dev | It is all web-based anyway. | 23:34 |
| Ci-Dev | WebRC | 23:34 |
| Hijiri | hold on, let me restart iceweasel and check | 23:35 |
| Ci-Dev | Hijiri: https://vline.com/+okvnxznjbo9ke7mq | 23:35 |
| tpb | Title: vLine link (at vline.com) | 23:35 |
| Ci-Dev | Just open that link. Should work if you browser hm … less than 1-1.5 years old. | 23:37 |
| Hijiri | yeah, it's not in the new version | 23:37 |
| Hijiri | so I'll use your link | 23:37 |
| Hijiri | it says that I'm connecting | 23:38 |
| Hijiri | brb real quick | 23:38 |
| Hijiri | back | 23:39 |
| Hijiri | says ICE failed | 23:40 |
| Hijiri | but it looks like it loaded? | 23:40 |
| Hijiri | I see a blank screen with some buttons at the bottom | 23:41 |
| Ci-Dev | Yes. | 23:41 |
| Ci-Dev | This is a video chat. | 23:41 |
| Ci-Dev | HAve no video. :) | 23:41 |
| Hijiri | oh | 23:41 |
| Hijiri | can you hear me? | 23:41 |
| Ci-Dev | Hm. No. :( | 23:41 |
| Hijiri | should I try refreshing? | 23:42 |
| Ci-Dev | Do you host? | 23:44 |
| Hijiri | ok | 23:44 |
| Hijiri | I already refreshed and it's the same as before | 23:45 |
| Hijiri | how do I set the port? | 23:45 |
| Ci-Dev | WherE? | 23:45 |
| Ci-Dev | FreEOrion or the chat? | 23:45 |
| Ci-Dev | *voice | 23:45 |
| Hijiri | FO | 23:45 |
| Ci-Dev | By the way, do you hear me? | 23:45 |
| Hijiri | nope | 23:45 |
| Hijiri | I am getting some kind of notification sound every now and then | 23:47 |
| Ci-Dev | No idea then. | 23:47 |
| Hijiri | I don't know if that's coming from vline | 23:47 |
| Ci-Dev | I left and rejoined. | 23:47 |
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| Hijiri | should I be able to see a userlist or something | 23:49 |
| Ci-Dev | No. | 23:49 |
| Ci-Dev | I haven't played much with vline yet. | 23:49 |
| Ci-Dev | I just seen a coworked using it. | 23:49 |
| Hijiri | does FO support ipv6? | 23:49 |
| Hijiri | so I don't have to port forward | 23:49 |
| Ci-Dev | < Hijiri> f077b227aba... -- That is not current master. But guess it will work. | 23:50 |
| Ci-Dev | Hm. | 23:50 |
| Ci-Dev | I only have IPv4. | 23:50 |
| Hijiri | oh | 23:50 |
| Hijiri | I had the wrong origin | 23:51 |
| Hijiri | ok, I need to find the paper with the router password so I can port forward | 23:51 |
| Ci-Dev | Okay. | 23:52 |
| Hijiri | 107.133.196.130 | 23:57 |
| Ci-Dev | Okay, let's see. | 23:58 |
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