Saturday, 2020-06-13

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Loftydaveshah: what's the default state of iCE40 pullups? Wondering because of https://twitter.com/The6P4C/status/127179101321697689713:07
daveshahit's on if they are unused or the pin is not included in the design; off if the pin is included13:07
daveshahthey are also on if the chip isn't configured13:08
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cr1901_moderngit rev-list HEAD@{1}..HEAD | wc19:08
cr1901_modern   1783    1783   7310319:08
cr1901_modernOh my... :o19:08
cr1901_modern(And that was since January!)19:08
cr1901_modernI know I'm a bit late to the party, but what is "abc9" and how does it differ from "abc"?19:37
Loftycr1901_modern: two things; ABC9 is box-aware (e.g. memories and flops are things that cannot be mapped by ABC but are important to know about), and it uses a generalised delay model (e.g. input->output path is measured in picoseconds, and varies for paths, which reflects real-life hardware better)19:44
LoftyAnother important box is carry logic, where ABC9 can prune carry chains it can prove are unneeded19:44
cr1901_modernIs it a special input arg to abc or? I don't think I've ever conciously used it19:45
LoftyFor Yosys flows, you can enable it with -abc919:46
Loftyhttps://github.com/ZirconiumX/yosys-cookbook/blob/master/ecp5.md19:46
tpbTitle: yosys-cookbook/ecp5.md at master · ZirconiumX/yosys-cookbook · GitHub (at github.com)19:46
Lofty(and should for ECP5)19:46
Lofty(and Xilinx)19:46
Lofty(in Intel, I don't give you a choice; you get ABC9 :P)19:47
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