Saturday, 2019-12-14

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ZirconiumXdaveshah: So, my current Quartus exploits have me writing to EDIF. Which is a pain to debug when trying to map "a problem in the EDIF" to "a problem in the Verilog netlist"17:30
ZirconiumXAny tips/advice?17:30
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daveshahYosys EDIF is very specific to Vivado18:05
daveshahDoes Quartus have EDIF output? I would start looking at what it generates18:06
ZirconiumXdaveshah: Nope, only input. But it seems that it accepts Yosys' EDIF output just fine18:13
daveshahFYI, there have been bugs in the past where the EDIF is accepted but it turns out eg cell port vectors are reversed18:14
ZirconiumXAt the moment I have a Quartus issue where it complains that a DFFEAS port cannot be connected18:15
ZirconiumXWhich I'm pretty sure means that it doesn't exist in hardware for the CV18:15
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cr1901_modernZirconiumX: Idk if you tried this already, but you describing the problem in ##openfpga yesterday made me think of using C-reduce or the program its based off of (delta): https://github.com/csmith-project/creduce/tree/master/delta19:33
tpbTitle: creduce/delta at master · csmith-project/creduce · GitHub (at github.com)19:33
ZirconiumXcr1901_modern: I have not, I'll admit, but my time is more limited than most19:51
ZirconiumXSo, having sorted out the DFFEAS bug from a stupidly obscure error message19:52
ZirconiumXI now have a new and unique error message19:53
cr1901_modernZirconiumX: I would help, but I don't have Altera installed and I'm not in a position to do so right now :(19:54
cr1901_modern(if you _wanted_ help I mean)19:54
ZirconiumXI definitely won't object19:54
ZirconiumXcr1901_modern: The error message itself is not particularly difficult to diagnose19:59
ZirconiumXError (274007): Net name "GND_NET" is used multiple times, but should be used only once20:19
ZirconiumXI can't tell if this is Quartus being picky or EDIF being picky20:19
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janrinzeon the topic of up5k, how are the boards? I have the lattice breakout and the upduino v2. The latter is notoriously bad in respect to the oscilator frequency stability.21:49
janrinzeSeems there is a v2.1 now but i'm not sure if it is any good. Also the IceBreaker is seriously overpriced, i.m.h.o. (77 euro's)21:50
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tntheh, I use the icebreaker and it's always been very reliable. Surely not the cheapest, but it's one of the best designed one.23:15

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