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| ruggy | ok it built | 00:06 |
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| ruggy | now I need config files | 00:06 |
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| llnz | sample quickstart config files are provided | 00:09 |
| ruggy | oH! | 00:09 |
| ruggy | silly me | 00:09 |
| ruggy | my eyes ignored those long filenames :) | 00:10 |
| ruggy | no ship design view? | 00:12 |
| ruggy | what's that all about? | 00:13 |
| ruggy | hmm | 00:15 |
| ruggy | I get funky python errors | 00:15 |
| ruggy | I'll call it a day for today. | 00:15 |
| ruggy | thanks for your assistance llnz, tansell tpb | 00:16 |
| tansell | ruggy, tpb is a robot :) | 00:16 |
| ruggy | that's ok | 00:18 |
| ruggy | I'm friendly to robots too | 00:18 |
| * ezod is a robot | 00:18 | |
| ruggy | you should watch STTNG: ep 2e19 | 00:18 |
| ezod | ruggy: you mean 2x9? | 00:19 |
| ezod | measure of a man? | 00:19 |
| ruggy | lol | 00:19 |
| tansell | burn :P | 00:20 |
| ruggy | no, that's an ep where they're MEAN to a robut | 00:20 |
| ruggy | I'm talking ep 2x19 where Sonia Gomez is all like "thanks replicator for my hot chocolate. maybe tonight I'll enable surveillance in my apartment just for you" | 00:20 |
| ezod | ah | 00:21 |
| ruggy | and the Geordi is all like "*jealous* you know we treat computers like trash around here" | 00:21 |
| ruggy | makes you wonder why the borg could mess with Federation tech so easily | 00:21 |
| ruggy | robot love anyone? | 00:22 |
| ezod | that is... | 00:22 |
| ezod | q who | 00:22 |
| * ezod googles | 00:22 | |
| ezod | 2x16 :P | 00:22 |
| ruggy | interseting | 00:24 |
| ruggy | the last time I downloaded it it came in as 2x19 :-p | 00:24 |
| ezod | i am embarassed to admit that i bought all 7 seasons on dvd in the pre-torrent days | 00:26 |
| ezod | ...when i was an unemployed undergrad student | 00:26 |
| ruggy | haha | 00:27 |
| ruggy | ezod, as unfortunate as that is (dvd's are grossly overpriced) I applaud your well-placed devotion | 00:27 |
| ruggy | sometimes I'm sad that I grew up and no longer see TNG with the same reverence | 00:30 |
| ezod | better to grow out of something than not to grow out of it, i say ;) | 00:31 |
| ruggy | lol | 00:31 |
| ruggy | I don't know why that should be | 00:31 |
| ruggy | the power to dream is not a trivial thing | 00:31 |
| ezod | well, you move on to better things | 00:32 |
| ruggy | well, maybe | 00:32 |
| ruggy | except it's sometimes hard to find inspiration | 00:32 |
| ruggy | so sometimes I go back to my roots | 00:32 |
| ruggy | and too often find myself just walking away when the babble and superstitious stuff is too easy | 00:32 |
| ruggy | *heavy | 00:32 |
| ruggy | anyway bla bla bla | 00:33 |
| ruggy | video games are now the perfect medium | 00:33 |
| ruggy | just like tv, they can be used for the most useless or most fruitful activities | 00:33 |
| ruggy | it's all up to those who provide content | 00:33 |
| ezod | ruggy: familiar with jane mcgonigal? | 00:33 |
| ruggy | why yes indeed | 00:34 |
| ruggy | I mean not very closely, but I saw some of her talks. I was very happy to see what she's up to | 00:34 |
| ezod | she was at penguicon a few years ago, pretty interesting | 00:34 |
| ruggy | ya | 00:35 |
| ruggy | I hope she gets to accomplish at lot of what she intends | 00:35 |
| ruggy | it's rare that I see an actual pioneer giving credibility to something that I can't figure out how to present to people close to me | 00:36 |
| ruggy | there are so many barriers to overcome | 00:36 |
| ruggy | so many preconceptions | 00:36 |
| ruggy | not to mention cynicism and inertia | 00:36 |
| ruggy | I've been wanting to make educational games for going on 6 years now | 00:37 |
| ruggy | and educational software for double that amount | 00:37 |
| ruggy | hard to work alone, hard to find people who are interested in such things | 00:37 |
| ezod | sounds like you're in the right place? :) | 00:38 |
| ruggy | well maybe | 00:39 |
| ruggy | who knows? | 00:39 |
| ruggy | I want to make sci-fi adventure games | 00:39 |
| ruggy | but games that do more than 'pew pew pew pew pew' | 00:39 |
| ezod | funny you say that | 00:41 |
| ezod | a friend of mine and alanp's keeps telling us thousand parsec needs more pew pew pew | 00:41 |
| ruggy | haha | 00:41 |
| ruggy | of course there are people who will clamor for that | 00:41 |
| ezod | (literally) | 00:41 |
| ruggy | (well, I haven't played it, so maybe it could USE it) | 00:42 |
| ruggy | a very close and good friend of mine keeps trying to 'save' me from my hopeless dreams | 00:42 |
| ruggy | trying to tell me what will sell and what will appeal to the masses | 00:42 |
| ruggy | I have a really thick skin | 00:42 |
| ezod | haw, whatever | 00:43 |
| ezod | we can dance if we want to | 00:43 |
| ruggy | lol | 00:43 |
| ruggy | ezod, you are a trek nerd, this has been estalished | 00:43 |
| ruggy | *blished | 00:43 |
| ruggy | do you remember the scene in ST: IV when Spock II is brushing up on his science skills? | 00:43 |
| ezod | right at the beginning, on the bird of prey's computer? | 00:44 |
| ezod | yes | 00:44 |
| ruggy | ja | 00:44 |
| ruggy | well it was either on the BOP or in some vulcan monastery or something | 00:44 |
| ruggy | but yes | 00:44 |
| ruggy | whatistheelectronicconfigurationofgalodinium? tip tip tip tap tip tip tap correct. | 00:44 |
| ruggy | gadolinium, actually | 00:45 |
| ezod | lol | 00:45 |
| ezod | i'm going to go out on a limb | 00:45 |
| ezod | and guess that it was a vulcan monastery | 00:45 |
| ruggy | that scene has held me enthralled for over a decade | 00:45 |
| ruggy | I know it's just art, just design and cinematics | 00:46 |
| ruggy | but I thought o myself DAYUM computers should be as fluid, as fluent in conveying our symbolic analyses into formal systems | 00:46 |
| ruggy | right now computers mostly serve as glorified encyclopedias and typewriters | 00:47 |
| ruggy | useful for sure, but so little gets done to enhance our cognitive processes, to create mutual reinforcement between human and machine | 00:47 |
| ruggy | if I keep going this becomes 'not all borg are bad' speech | 00:48 |
| ruggy | lol | 00:48 |
| ruggy | never mind :) I have work to do, sort of | 00:48 |
| ezod | you're preaching to the choir here | 00:48 |
| ezod | i research camera networks and robotics | 00:48 |
| ezod | human-computer interaction, artificial intelligence factor in.. | 00:48 |
| ruggy | well jesus selling apples in bethlehem | 00:49 |
| ezod | in fact, i decided to get a phd in engineering because i wanted to invent the holodeck | 00:49 |
| ezod | and it's still sort of where i'm headed, except more along the lines of vernor vinge's AR contact lens stuff | 00:50 |
| ruggy | I'm looking towards a time when a motivated student can just learn learn learn all the math and science from an adaptively interactive computer that simulates symbolic systems in ways that they can be turned inside out without requiring actual authoring by people | 00:50 |
| ezod | it's coming in our lifetime | 00:51 |
| ruggy | ya | 00:51 |
| ruggy | but I want it faster | 00:51 |
| ezod | unless you're like super old | 00:51 |
| ruggy | it's coming because it's inevitable | 00:51 |
| ruggy | but it's not coming as fast as it should | 00:51 |
| ruggy | because relatively few people can even imagine what's possible that isn't here yet | 00:51 |
| ruggy | AR is really really cool stuff | 00:52 |
| ruggy | I'm going to have simple examples of it in my game | 00:52 |
| ezod | write your national government and tell them to pour more funding into research ;) | 00:52 |
| ruggy | lol | 00:52 |
| ruggy | ya I'm not sure how much my government wants to do for that | 00:52 |
| ruggy | of course, if I could sell it for anti-terrorism activities, I might get traction | 00:52 |
| ezod | what government is this? | 00:53 |
| ruggy | the state of Canada | 00:53 |
| ezod | in that case, please do | 00:53 |
| ruggy | ie the biggest state of the American union | 00:53 |
| ezod | because that's who pays for my research ;) | 00:53 |
| ruggy | haha | 00:53 |
| ruggy | well ezod, happy to meet you. I have to go afk for a bit now | 00:54 |
| ezod | same, and same, later | 00:54 |
| ruggy | I'm likely to come back and spam people with my ideas/comments/unsolicited help ;) | 00:54 |
| ezod | feel free | 00:54 |
| ruggy | excellent. later! | 00:55 |
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