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| glew | hi llnz, thanks for the insight on the XML problem, i'll look into it | 00:45 |
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| llnz | adding interplayer boards is hard | 05:47 |
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| StupidIncarnate | llnz? | 07:43 |
| llnz | hi StupidIncarnate | 07:43 |
| StupidIncarnate | hey | 07:43 |
| StupidIncarnate | actually this is probably a tansell question | 07:44 |
| StupidIncarnate | well, do you know python llnz+ | 07:46 |
| StupidIncarnate | ? | 07:46 |
| llnz | yes, i do know python | 07:46 |
| StupidIncarnate | I loaded up the current server set to mtsec, and I get this error when I try to launch tpclient-pweb http://pastebin.com/fLnh3SbR | 07:47 |
| tpb | Title: Python | Traceback (most recent call la - Anonymous - fLnh3SbR - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) | 07:47 |
| StupidIncarnate | minisec works for me | 07:47 |
| llnz | odd | 07:52 |
| llnz | which branches of libtpclient-py, libtpproto-cpp and tpserver-cpp | 07:54 |
| StupidIncarnate | most recent tpserver branch where it fixes mtsec | 07:55 |
| StupidIncarnate | for the libs.... | 07:55 |
| StupidIncarnate | apparently a very old branch. Let me check those out | 07:57 |
| llnz | master of tpserver-cpp is better | 07:58 |
| StupidIncarnate | I think i have the master | 07:58 |
| llnz | ok | 07:58 |
| StupidIncarnate | what's the git command line to check? | 07:58 |
| llnz | git branch | 07:59 |
| StupidIncarnate | git status says I'm on master | 07:59 |
| llnz | ok | 07:59 |
| StupidIncarnate | :/ actually, i think this is the most recent update for the branch Im on which is tp04 | 08:07 |
| StupidIncarnate | I'm not completely sure, but that's what it looks like | 08:07 |
| StupidIncarnate | what branch are you on llnz for libtpclient-py? | 08:10 |
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| llnz | tp04 | 08:26 |
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| StupidIncarnate | llnz, so I'm looking at git gui's visual history. It says that the last change was "Quote the username/password" | 09:48 |
| StupidIncarnate | for libtpclient | 09:49 |
| llnz | StupidIncarnate: same | 09:52 |
| StupidIncarnate | k, then I don't know | 09:52 |
| llnz | it's going to be hard to add interplayer boards | 10:02 |
| llnz | they are kind of set up wrong | 10:02 |
| StupidIncarnate | hmmm? is that a feature of mtsec? | 10:03 |
| llnz | i was going to add them to minisec to test | 10:03 |
| llnz | i can't remember who asked for it | 10:03 |
| StupidIncarnate | no idea what interplayer boards are | 10:05 |
| llnz | message boards that players share to communicate with each other | 10:07 |
| StupidIncarnate | i didn't think the server could do that | 10:07 |
| llnz | it can't yet | 10:42 |
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| llnz | later all | 11:24 |
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| StupidIncarnate | tansell? | 16:18 |
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| llnz | morning all | 20:14 |
| glew | hi llnz | 20:17 |
| llnz | hi glew | 20:18 |
| ezod | glew: so any progress on save/load in libtpclient-py? | 20:42 |
| glew | ezod: I've had some headway into it, but mostly i've found some issues that i need to address in the persistence module and I found my problem in running MTsec | 20:43 |
| glew | i'm still in the process or working in the __main__ block of SinglePlayer.py to work on loading | 20:43 |
| ezod | that should be really simple | 20:46 |
| glew | what part, the loading part in SinglePlayer.py's main block? | 20:46 |
| ezod | yeah | 20:46 |
| ezod | Load game? -> yes = load a file dialog (or prompt for filename, in this case) and call load() function, no = do the setup process | 20:47 |
| glew | yup | 20:47 |
| glew | so i can write the load() function within SinglePlayerGame, right? | 20:48 |
| ezod | yes, imo save() and load() should be member functions of SinglePlayer | 20:48 |
| ezod | btw, regarding the version compatibility stuff, the DTD for singleplayer xml is located in the "web" repo, under downloads/tpconfig.dtd | 20:49 |
| ezod | i can take care of adding the appropriate stuff to that, and to the XML for various components | 20:50 |
| ezod | so you don't have to fork all those repos on github yourself | 20:50 |
| ezod | you can either send me patches (git has functionality to export them) or just tell me how you want it to look | 20:51 |
| glew | ok, so you're saying i can access version information from the web repos | 20:51 |
| ezod | not really | 20:58 |
| ezod | i'm saying you need to look in the XML config for the components | 20:58 |
| ezod | (don't have to worry about this initially) | 20:58 |
| ezod | like, each server, ai, and ruleset has an xml file that describes it for singleplayer purposes | 20:59 |
| ezod | and the tpconfig.dtd describes how that file is structured | 20:59 |
| glew | alright, I know what you're talking about now | 20:59 |
| ezod | so since you are going to have to add a field to the effect of "minimum version that this version of the <server,ai,ruleset> is compatible with saved games from" | 21:00 |
| ezod | that has to be put in the DTD, as well as all the existing XML files | 21:00 |
| ezod | and also somehow incorporated into the xml import code in SinglePlayer.py... | 21:01 |
| ezod | i can help with that part | 21:01 |
| glew | ok so just to make sure i'm following what you're saying | 21:01 |
| glew | I know i need to have the "minimum version compatible with this save for each component (server, ai, ruleset)" | 21:02 |
| glew | and this can be obtained from the XML files | 21:02 |
| glew | for each component | 21:02 |
| ezod | ya | 21:02 |
| ezod | so the process would go like this | 21:02 |
| glew | but what definition has to be added to the DTD, a field for compatibility? | 21:03 |
| ezod | ya | 21:03 |
| ezod | say you're playing a game: serverA version X, rulesetB version Y, aiclientC version Z | 21:04 |
| ezod | you save it | 21:04 |
| ezod | so singleplayer table in sqlite stores those component names and their versions | 21:04 |
| ezod | so when you load, before configuring all those components, you need to check: | 21:04 |
| ezod | (a) whether the person has serverA | 21:04 |
| ezod | (b) whether the version of serverA the person has is compatible with saves from version X | 21:05 |
| ezod | and same for rulesetB and aiclientC | 21:05 |
| glew | ok, makes sense | 21:06 |
| ezod | that can all be obtained from the XML already, except there is no compatibility field | 21:06 |
| ezod | so that's all that needs to be added | 21:06 |
| glew | right, so the compatibility field would likely either contain up to what previous version it is compatible with, or explicitly what versions its compatible with | 21:07 |
| ezod | yeah, i'll leave it up to you to determine whether the explicit thing is necessary | 21:08 |
| ezod | just because my gut says it's not and it would be harder to parse ;) | 21:09 |
| glew | thats what i was thinking, but i'm not sure how future "backwards" compatibility will work out, but we'll hope for the best | 21:09 |
| ezod | i just can't see there being a version in between that's incompatible, know what i mean? | 21:11 |
| glew | I know what you mean, I don't think it will be a problem | 21:12 |
| glew | ezod: i have a question about the problem I found when trying to run MTsec | 21:14 |
| glew | the reason i wasn't able to start a server with MTsec was because it requires a gamedata_file parameter | 21:15 |
| glew | this is defined in one of the quickstart definitions for tpserver-cpp | 21:16 |
| glew | but I didn't find this parameter in the xml file for tpserver-cpp-mtsec | 21:16 |
| glew | (i think thats the name of the file) | 21:16 |
| glew | So I was wondering if it should be a parameter or a forced parameter? | 21:16 |
| ezod | perhaps it should | 21:17 |
| ezod | llnz or alanp would know better than i | 21:18 |
| llnz | glew: i guess tpserver-cpp is installed, correct? | 21:18 |
| llnz | what prefix did you use? | 21:18 |
| glew | um, recently i don't think i specified one when installing | 21:19 |
| llnz | /usr/local then | 21:19 |
| glew | so if i'm following what your saying, its defaulting to /usr/local/share | 21:19 |
| glew | yeah | 21:19 |
| llnz | what is in /usr/local/share/tp/ ? | 21:20 |
| glew | um for me, daneel-ai.xml, a risk map, tpservre-cpp.xml, tpserver-cpp-minisec.xml, tpserver-cpp-mtsec.xml, tpserver-cpp-mtsec-gamedata.xml, tpserver-cpp-rtts.xml, tpserver-cpp-risk.xml, and tpserver-cpp-tae.xml | 21:21 |
| ezod | that's the singleplayer xml stuff | 21:22 |
| ezod | for the most part | 21:22 |
| llnz | there is your tpserver-cpp-mtsec-gamedata.xml | 21:22 |
| glew | right, so in the past when i've tried to start a SinglePlayer game with MTsec, it would crash becausse the tpserver-cpp-mtsec-gamedata.xml file wasn't specified | 21:23 |
| glew | the xml definition for tpserver-cpp-mtsec.xml includes a parameter for components file | 21:24 |
| glew | but this is passed by --components_file | 21:24 |
| glew | --gamedata_file is the parameter that is necessary ( think it contains both the components and hte properties) | 21:24 |
| llnz | yeah, that looks like the problem | 21:25 |
| ezod | easy to fix | 21:33 |
| ezod | is it always going to be tpserver-cpp-mtsec-gamedata.xml? | 21:33 |
| ezod | (for mtsec) | 21:33 |
| ezod | if so, just add that forced param to the .xml.in for mtsec with the appropriate path variable etc. | 21:34 |
| ezod | otherwise you can make it a variable parameter with that as the default? | 21:34 |
| glew | i think so, and by what llnz was saying earlier, for SinglePlayer it should be located in /usr/local/share/tp/ | 21:34 |
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