Monday, 2008-04-21

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greywhindmithro: i added labels and another checklist box to my filters window. next I just have to add the actual effects of filtering.00:24
mithrookay00:24
greywhindmithro: but i'm going to stop for today. i'll talk to you tomorrow.00:25
mithrookay00:27
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JLPgood morning everyone03:50
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llnzhi all06:50
JLPllnz: ahoy06:53
llnz8 hours07:00
llnzor so07:00
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llnzhi AquaFox07:53
AquaFoxhi llnz07:54
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llnzhi xdotx09:35
mithrohey xdotx09:35
xdotxhey guys09:35
llnzbeen trying to fix rfts, I hope i'm doing ok09:36
mithroIt is 0 days, 5 hours, 21 minutes and 51 seconds09:36
llnzmithro: mis-channel?09:36
mithronope - possible GSoC announcement time :P09:37
llnzah09:37
llnzthat's about 7am here and it's 1:39am currently09:37
mithromy guess is that it will be a little later then that09:39
xdotxhave the accepted students been decided/finalized?09:40
mithroxdotx: thats the above timeline :P09:41
xdotxmaking sure :P09:41
xdotxthe timeline says the meeting for duplicate 'accepted' students was already done09:42
mithroxdotx: yeah - that happened Friday09:43
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mithrohell battousai137309:43
llnzhi battousai137309:44
battousai1373hey09:44
battousai1373sorry it's been a while...09:44
battousai1373The end of the DigiPen semester is hell.09:44
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llnzlater all09:45
battousai1373I just recently got around to finishing up that proposal update.09:45
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battousai1373It needs a quick once over. Would it be worth my while, or am I too late?09:46
mithrobattousai1373: I'm afraid you are a little late :/09:46
battousai1373figured09:47
battousai1373I had you guys in mind, but in the past two weeks I've done a rather sizable rewrite of my physics engine (a week's worth), taken several quizzes, fixed robustness issues in my GJK implementation for a math final project, polished up and presented the final submission of my game, and written up several sections of a game design document.09:52
battousai1373Basically, the delay was rather unavoidable.09:52
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battousai1373thanks anyway for taking a look at my proposal.09:52
battousai1373I'll see you around.09:53
mithrobattousai1373: okay09:53
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xdotxls10:03
xdotx..ack10:03
xdotxi'm gonna get to bed. i'm freeee all next week though10:04
* xdotx waves10:05
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evnis tim/mithro here?13:17
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JLPevn: mithro is currently asleep13:50
JLPevn: it's 3:22 at his place in Australia13:50
Erroneousthose crazy australians13:51
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AlexEvtThe history performs when boss sleeps:))13:55
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dandersonping15:20
dandersonlooking for SoC mentors/admins15:20
dandersonthere is an extra slot up for grabs, does thousand parsec want it15:21
dandersonplease reply quickly, we're on the clock here15:21
dandersonJLP: ping15:21
JLPdanderson: i don't think we need one15:21
dandersonok15:21
AlexEv1^(15:21
dandersonis that your final word?15:21
dandersonif so, do you have any other org you'd like to recommend?15:22
JLPdanderson: yeah, we don't want to everload the mentors15:22
dandersonokay15:22
* danderson sets +sane +awesome thousandparsec15:22
dandersonthanks :)15:22
JLPdanderson: thanks to you15:23
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vic85__:)))15:43
vic85__thanks guys, i won't disappoint you15:46
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karolhi all15:47
vic85__hey karol15:47
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karolcongrats to all that have been accepted15:49
vi1985thanks karol15:51
AlexEv1i was refused15:51
AlexEv1heh:)15:51
JLPAlexEv1: not refused, we just don't have resources to handle every good proposal15:52
karoli probably too, still waiting for the webapp confirmation15:52
JLPmayb next year we can take more slots if some of the students turn into mentors15:52
andreikarol, Look on the org page15:52
andreikarol, The dashboard won't be updated for ages15:53
karolso then, better luck next time15:53
Epyon8 apps total!15:53
EpyonWow, congratulations to TP :D15:53
andreiThat's a lot of slots15:53
JLPEpyon: yeah, double the number of last year, very good15:53
JLPwe could take even more if we had more mentors, but even mentors need time to do their job well15:54
JLPso if more this year students turn into mentors for next year there may be even more slots15:55
vi1985wow, congrats JLP. I thought TP only got 5 this year!15:55
AlexEv1JLP: ok, anyway thanks;)15:56
JLPAlexEv1: no, thank to you for your great proposal, we still hope to see you around if you have time15:57
JLPAlexEv1: it will also very positively affect your rank when you apply again next year15:57
karolgood luck guys, gotta work :(15:59
JLPkarol: have a great time and hope to see you around some time16:00
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JLPbtw you will all get an e-mail with further instructions and whatnot16:01
karolJLP: you too16:01
karolbye16:01
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JLPthey are currently sitting in mithro's outbox16:01
AlexEv1JLP: what emails?16:06
CIA-29aaron gentoo-overlay * r714551113b6a / (6 files in 2 dirs): Added ~sparc to tpserver-cpp and libtprl ebuilds16:06
JLPAlexEv1: what to do now that you are selected, and what now that we couldn't take you on board as part of GSoC16:07
JLafont_yaaay!16:07
AlexEv1i c16:07
JLPAlexEv1: the main point is that even if you don't get into GSoC it doesn't mean it is your fault16:08
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JLPAlexEv1: and despite this we would still very much like to see you to work on TP in any way, even on the project proposed for GSoC16:09
AlexEv1i understand that:)16:09
JLPAlexEv1: even a little work during the year has a big positive impact on scoring when next GSoC comes around in 200916:10
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Nulerenhey, just popping in to say thanks for accepting my proposal!!  :)16:10
NulerenI can't wait to get started!16:11
JLPNuleren: don't wait, just start P16:11
Nulerenhaha16:11
Nulerenwill do =)16:11
JLPNuleren: and the biggest thanks for acceptance is in your work on proposal and other things besides it that upped the ranking16:12
vi1985JLP, just wondering how many AI devs we're going to have this summer?16:15
JLPvi1985: 2 as part of GSoC, and anyone else not part of GSoC can still work on his16:17
vi1985JLP, that's pretty cool :)   This would make testing much more balanced and realistic16:19
JLPwith AI we weren't so sure, so we took 2 just in case one fails and we still have other chance, and well maybe it will help to have the two AIs fight all the time during the GSoC16:19
vi1985ah, that's what i wrote :)16:20
JLP:)16:20
vi1985JLP, that's why communism failed... no competition in the market ;)16:20
ezodso we know who got in with gsoc?16:21
JLPezod: yes, my student :) - http://code.google.com/soc/2008/parsec/about.html16:22
tpb<http://ln-s.net/1p2H> (at code.google.com)16:22
ezodoh, nice :D16:22
JLPandrei: did you get accepted for Hurd in the end?16:22
andreiJLP, I did, thanks :)16:22
JLPcool16:23
ezodJLP: looking forward to working with you, thanks :)16:23
JLPezod: likewise16:23
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* JLP will be right back, dinner time16:27
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JLPahoy llnz17:28
llnzhi JLP17:28
JLPEpyon: cool i see you again got in for BZFlag17:33
JLPEpyon: i hope you will have some time left to help us with 3D models17:33
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jphrHey everyone!17:45
llnzhi jphr17:45
jphrllnz: you guys got 8 projects! nice17:45
llnzyeah17:45
jphrllnz: I was really stoked to see i'd made it17:46
llnzcool17:46
jphrAny thoughts so far on what might go on in the "bonding" period?17:46
llnzit's a chance to get involved in the community before going near-full time on your project17:48
jphrAhh I see, thats sort of what I had anticipated17:48
llnzjoining the mailing lists and dropping in here sometimes would help17:48
llnzthere is also no reason that you couldn't start reading documentation, etc17:49
jphrllnz: Yes i will have much more free time once I finished my last 2 finals on wed.17:49
llnzcool17:49
llnzthere should be an email sent out soon17:49
jphrTransferring universities is such a nightmare17:49
jphrI'm off to get back to studying, I will be seeing much more of you folk after finals17:50
jphrcongrats on 8 spots again!17:50
llnzcya, thanks17:50
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EpyonJLP, thanks :)19:05
EpyonJLP, as I told you -- I don't consider modeling work, but fun :P19:06
JLPEpyon: then i hope you'll have enough free time for fun :)19:07
EpyonSo do I xP19:07
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jothamEpyon: hey19:17
Epyonjotham :)19:29
jothamEpyon: i was wondering if you could possibly do something, if you felt the urge (this is just a suggestion/idea)19:33
jothammake up a mockup of what you would expect a battle to look like19:33
Epyonwhat do you need?19:33
jothamso i get some idea of how you expect to see ships arranged19:33
jothamsince they are your ships19:33
Epyonjotham, the problem is I don't fully realize how you want to do the battles19:34
jotham=)19:34
jothamit's a tricky one sir19:34
Epyonin a turn based game19:34
EpyonI know more or less how they'll look like in stardreamer19:34
jothamso i'll get something sorted and then we can maybe have a bit of an argument about it and i'll make some changes, and iterate like that19:34
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EpyonBut that one is modeled after Empire at War space combat19:34
jothami don't know these games19:35
Epyonone moment19:35
jothammaybe you could furnish me with some screenshots19:35
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Epyonhttp://www.armchairempire.com/images/Reviews/pc/star-wars-empire-war/star-wars-empire-war-2.jpg19:35
tpb<http://ln-s.net/1p6N> (at www.armchairempire.com)19:35
jotham19:35
jothamoh i have seen that game19:36
jothamfor now we are just doing 2D sprite arrangements19:36
jothamno actual rts combat (yet)19:36
jothambut that's definatly on the cards19:36
EpyonI'll be doing something like that for my own game19:36
jothami was thinking something like final fantasy 719:36
jothammeets civ19:36
jothamwhere you basically have unit stacks taking turns19:37
Epyonno idea, never played FFVII19:37
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mithrohowdy people19:55
vi1985_hey mithro :)19:58
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mithrovi1985_: you a happy camper?19:59
vi1985_oh yeah! the ceiling has several holes the shape of my head ;-)19:59
mithrovi1985_: a blacksmith will be around within a couple of days to fit the ball and chain ;)20:00
vi1985_mithro, lol I think i'll come down in a couple of days!20:01
mithrovi1985_: you will get an email from me in a couple of hours explaining where we go from here20:02
mithroJLafont_: ping?20:02
vi1985_mithro, great, I'll be back later on tonight and check it out.20:03
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* nash waves20:27
mithrohey nash20:27
mithrojust getting the GSoC emails ready20:27
nashI saw the results.. cool ;-)20:28
nashEspecially compared to last year20:28
llnzhi nash20:29
jothamis there something more useful than apt-cache search <package> | grep <what i really want>20:29
jothamlike, maybe something with a filter field and scroll pane20:29
nashjotham: What are you trying to do?20:29
nashapt-cache search <pattern>20:29
nashapt-cache search worda wordb etc...20:30
jothamoh hum, maybe i just have downsyndrome20:30
jothamoh, well typically i apt-cache search for things but then get a lot of results and prune them with grep20:30
nashNo need to pipe it to grep - unless you want better pattern matching20:32
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llnzhi Erroneous20:53
Erroneoushi llnz20:53
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bddebianHowdy21:04
mithrohello bddebian21:06
bddebianHi mithro21:06
mithrogetting close to having a packaged version of python-ogre21:06
mithroit's horribly hacky however21:06
bddebianWell that wouldn't be a first in Debian :)21:09
mithro:)21:11
mithroI needed to package a whole bunch of extensions first21:12
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mithroezod: pong?21:27
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llnzhi Alklomion21:50
mithrohello Alklomion21:50
Alklomionhello llonz, mithro21:51
Alklomionllnz*21:51
mithroAlklomion: how goes everything?21:58
Alklomionmithro: alright, i'm looking over the code, removing some things. Some of my solutions seem a bit weird21:59
mithroAlklomion: oh?21:59
greywhindmithro: ping?22:00
mithrogreywhind: pong22:00
greywhindmithro: so i'm ready to build the list of messages, but it's a tree structure - how do I construct it, adding and removing nodes and such?22:00
mithrotree structure?22:01
greywhindhere's what I have at the moment22:01
greywhindhttp://rafb.net/p/3cPc3A85.html (20 lines)22:01
tpbTitle: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)22:01
greywhindor linked list or something22:01
greywhindlinked list makes more sense, i guess22:01
greywhindmithro: i have to go eat, but i'll be back22:02
Alklomionmithro: an example is in TPException, there's there's methods TPException() TPException(String message), TPException(Throwable cause), TPException(String message, Throwable cause)... now the problem lies in that in midp, there's no method Exception(throwable cause), so all i can do is at the TPException level is get the message from the cause and then pass it up. This means that all five...22:03
Alklomion...methods do the same thing22:03
mithrois there a Throwable?22:04
Alklomionyeah22:06
mithrookay then22:10
JLafont_mithro, pong22:12
JLafont_omg!, the student mailing list is spamming me22:12
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mithroJLafont_: so did you get my response to your patches?22:18
JLafont_yeah, sorry I haven't been around much lately, have been writing papers lately22:19
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mithroJLP: ping?22:38
ezodmithro: was your pong a ping? :)23:24
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nashmavrinac.. does that name mean something to someone?23:50
* ezod waves back :)23:52
llnznash: yeah23:53
nashExcellent23:53
nashezod: Cool, that's a project which I'll be watching as well... feel free to add additional client support to galaxie ;-)23:55
mithroezod: that was a pong23:57
ezodnash: sounds good, i'll keep it in mind, i'm hoping to make it as modular as possible so as to be easy to integrate into new clients23:57
ezodmithro: oh?23:58

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