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| mithro | JLafont: probably a good idea | 00:07 |
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| mithro | JLafont: having proof that you can code is always good :) | 00:07 |
| JLafont | haha sure. | 00:09 |
| JLafont | I have a couple of AI projects I've done | 00:09 |
| JLafont | I have to wait until I get back on campus though | 00:09 |
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| mithro | ~seen xdotx | 00:33 |
| tpb | mithro: xdotx was last seen in #tp 4 days, 15 hours, 13 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <xdotx> agreed | 00:33 |
| * Epyon feels wierd selling himself to other orgs. | 00:51 | |
| mithro | why? Do you think your good enough to get into Thousand Parsec? ;) | 01:00 |
| Epyon | mithro, I noticed that Wesnoth also takes part -- but they seem really sceptical about ranbdom/procedural generation so I guess I'll pass on them :P | 01:06 |
| mithro | ~seen nash | 01:07 |
| tpb | mithro: nash was last seen in #tp 2 weeks, 5 days, 0 hours, 34 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <nash> night | 01:07 |
| Epyon | mithro, so what do you need for TP most now? Because it seems that BZFlag isn't going to accept another map generation proposal, and the wesnoth guys seem sceptical about the whole procedural thing xP | 01:13 |
| mithro | Epyon: if you are going to do procedual generation - it would have to be space ships or planet graphics | 01:14 |
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| Epyon | What about EliteSec? | 01:15 |
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| mithro | Epyon: EliteSec would probably be welcomed | 01:19 |
| mithro | would you be doing it on the C++ or Python server? | 01:19 |
| Epyon | Probably C++ | 01:23 |
| Epyon | But it doesn't make much of a difference for me -- I know both languages equally well -- but I'd like to know C++ better -- hence the choice :P | 01:24 |
| mithro | I'm gunning to try and get some rulesets on tpserver-py and take it out of the "toy" stage | 01:25 |
| Epyon | If you'd convince me I'd do it in python, but I'd be only moderately happy 'bout it :/ | 01:26 |
| mithro | we will probably have a C++ ruleset too | 01:27 |
| Epyon | But damn, if there were a Elite-like ruleset, I'd be a regular TP-player myself -_- | 01:28 |
| mithro | Epyon: well, feel free to impliment it outside GSoC! :) | 01:32 |
| Epyon | mithro, believe me, the world would be a much nicer place if I had time to execute all my ideas :) | 01:33 |
| mithro | http://digg.com/programming/Google_announces_mentor_organizations_for_Summer_of_Code | 02:12 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1h5y> (at digg.com) | 02:12 |
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| mithro | hey llnz :) | 03:18 |
| llnz | hi | 03:19 |
| JLP | good morning all | 03:26 |
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| mithro | hey JLafont_ | 03:38 |
| mithro | and JLP | 03:38 |
| JLP | mithro: has the news about TP@GSoC been sent out to various sites/forums already while I was sleeping? | 03:40 |
| mithro | JLP: no | 03:40 |
| JLP | mithro: alright, will start doing that then | 03:41 |
| JLP | probably it is best to come up with some generic Games @ GSoC news for generic sites and post TP only to things like Stars! Autohost | 03:42 |
| mithro | JLP: sending you now | 03:44 |
| mithro | JLP: sent | 03:45 |
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| JLP | cool, thanks mithro | 04:02 |
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| JLP | xdotx: ahoy | 05:10 |
| xdotx | JLP: heya | 05:10 |
| llnz | ~seen peres | 05:15 |
| tpb | llnz: peres was last seen in #tp 2 days, 17 hours, 14 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <peres> so please don't worry :P | 05:15 |
| xdotx | gsoc day being the same day as Saint Patrick's seems to be a bad idea | 05:17 |
| llnz | hehe | 05:18 |
| llnz | hi xdotx | 05:18 |
| xdotx | heya :) | 05:19 |
| * llnz just realised he doesn't have long to release tpserver-cpp 0.5.0 with last year's gsoc code before this year's gsoc | 06:39 | |
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| llnz | hi BZA | 06:42 |
| BZA | llnz: Hi | 06:42 |
| JLP | BZA: ahoy | 06:43 |
| BZA | llnz: I have a preliminary design doc for a risk ruleset I wanted to give to mithro, but it doesn't look like he is around. | 06:44 |
| llnz | cool | 06:44 |
| BZA | JLP: Ahoyhoy right back atcha =) | 06:44 |
| llnz | BZA: email would probably be a good option | 06:44 |
| BZA | llnz: where can I find his email address? | 06:45 |
| llnz | gsoc page on the wiki :-) | 06:46 |
| llnz | or [email protected] | 06:46 |
| BZA | llnz: I also found [email protected] | 06:47 |
| * llnz wonders where that points | 06:48 | |
| llnz | [email protected] also works | 06:48 |
| BZA | great, sent that off. One less thing to do for now =) g'night guys | 06:55 |
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| mithro | JLP: ping? | 07:38 |
| JLP | mithro: pong | 07:38 |
| mithro | how goes the promotion stuff? | 07:38 |
| mithro | to bad we didn't get the forums working :/ | 07:39 |
| JLP | mithro: promotion goes slowly but steadily, hard to do it from work :( | 07:40 |
| mithro | JLP: yeah :/ | 07:40 |
| JLP | mithro: well the forums can be up quickly, it is just the ML connection that is holding it back | 07:40 |
| mithro | JLP: do you want to quickly put up a single forum and link the website to it | 07:41 |
| mithro | we probably need a decent theme too | 07:41 |
| JLP | mithro: maybe that connection could be a project idea | 07:41 |
| JLP | yup that too | 07:41 |
| llnz | humm... maybe some of these smaller projects the dedicated students will do to prove they are keen | 07:44 |
| * JLP is thinking if i should post to FreeOrion forums | 07:45 | |
| * JLP feels kinda bad about it, like stealing their developers | 07:45 | |
| * llnz wonders if he suggests that enough whether it would actually happen | 07:45 | |
| llnz | JLP: hehehe, well, hopefully we can all work together (eventually) | 07:45 |
| mithro | JLP: i've posted there before :) | 07:48 |
| JLP | mithro: me too, encouraging them to participate in GSoC | 07:48 |
| mithro | I dont understand why GSoC never gets lots of Diggs on Digg | 07:49 |
| JLP | mithro: yeah too bad, maybe google should put the link to the GSoC webpage | 07:50 |
| JLP | i've tried posting the link into #gsoc channel but this didn't have any effect at all :( | 07:51 |
| * llnz goes to digg it, just to make JLP feel better | 07:53 | |
| JLP | maybe if LH posts it people would be all over it :) | 07:53 |
| * JLP hugs llnz :) | 07:53 | |
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| * JLP gets more good news, ministry of culture will finance KDE4 translation into Slovenian language | 08:16 | |
| llnz | cool | 08:18 |
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| mithro | hello Ohm | 08:20 |
| mithro | Ohm: we are officially part of GSoC now | 08:24 |
| Ohm | awesome, congrats! | 08:24 |
| JLP | Ohm: ahoy | 08:26 |
| mithro | Ohm: so getting your application ready now? :) | 08:28 |
| Ohm | I'm going to get started with it today, yeah | 08:28 |
| mithro | cool - what where you interested again? | 08:29 |
| * JLP should now really add Parsek to the ideas page, with all the hard work translating KDE comming up there will be even less time to work on it :( | 08:30 | |
| llnz | :-( | 08:31 |
| Ohm | mithro: working on schemepy or AI would be cool, but I'm pretty sure I won't be doing AI things (considering you have an already experienced programmer on that) | 08:32 |
| mithro | Ohm: we have an experiance AI programmer? That is news to me :) | 08:32 |
| Ohm | otherwise I'd love to do random work on pywx client | 08:32 |
| Ohm | mithro: I thought the guy who did the current AI was going to do AI things again this year? | 08:32 |
| Ohm | Hard to compete with somebody who already knows the project well, if we choose the same ideas | 08:33 |
| mithro | Ohm: nope, I did tpsai-py | 08:33 |
| mithro | and I'm a mentor | 08:33 |
| Ohm | oh | 08:33 |
| Ohm | how odd | 08:33 |
| mithro | I believe JLafont was interested in AI | 08:33 |
| Ohm | yes, it was probably him I was thinking about | 08:33 |
| Ohm | how odd | 08:33 |
| mithro | if we have to AI projects they can battle each other! : | 08:34 |
| mithro | s/:/:P | 08:34 |
| Ohm | anyways, it'd be fun to implement a message board or 3D starmap into pywx | 08:34 |
| mithro | Ohm: it will be a bit difficult to put together a strong tpclient-pywx "do stuff" application so please work on it earlier and get plenty of feedback | 08:35 |
| Ohm | feels like the starmap would teach me about 3D-stuff, while the message board would let me learn about protocols | 08:36 |
| Ohm | both of course would be good for interface building experience | 08:36 |
| Ohm | mithro: Oh I as definitely thinking of focusing on one of them, making my application to TP specific | 08:37 |
| Ohm | a "i want todo stuff" application would look pretty unmotivated to me | 08:37 |
| mithro | the message board stuff is probably a weeks worth of work in reality | 08:38 |
| mithro | Ohm: Oh I mean a proposal do do a bunch of the smaller tpclient-pywx tasks | 08:38 |
| Ohm | ah yes | 08:38 |
| Ohm | I definitely intend to get lots of feedback on the application | 08:39 |
| mithro | none of the tpclient-pywx tasks apart from the 3d stuff is really a full GSoC by itself | 08:39 |
| Ohm | not doing so would just be wasteful | 08:39 |
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| llnz | later all | 08:40 |
| Ohm | see you | 08:40 |
| Ohm | The 3d stuff feels intimidating, though. | 08:40 |
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| Ohm | I've never worked with that kind of stuff before | 08:40 |
| mithro | it's smaller then the "do a complete 3d client" as all the infrastructure is already there | 08:41 |
| Ohm | aye | 08:41 |
| Ohm | does the client already handle 3d coordinates and stuff, but without making it visible to the user? | 08:41 |
| mithro | but that does involve another learning curve | 08:42 |
| mithro | Ohm: the client has all the XYZ coords it just ignores Z | 08:42 |
| Ohm | alright | 08:42 |
| mithro | greywhind: ping? | 08:43 |
| Ohm | mithro: oh, by the way, I watched all the miniconf videos | 08:48 |
| mithro | I guess I should head to bed | 08:48 |
| mithro | Ohm: where they interesting at all? | 08:49 |
| Ohm | yeah, definitely | 08:49 |
| mithro | Ohm: cool | 08:49 |
| mithro | now you know what I look like :) | 08:49 |
| Ohm | I'd say pyglet beat the others | 08:49 |
| Ohm | could hardly hear what the guy talking about crayons said, sadly | 08:49 |
| mithro | Ohm: dang | 08:49 |
| Ohm | heh, you also have a TP-shirt! | 08:49 |
| mithro | Ohm: so do the other developers :) | 08:50 |
| Ohm | a good carrot ;) | 08:50 |
| Ohm | pyweek was pretty cool aswell | 08:50 |
| Ohm | commercial was a bit of a letdown, but still interesting | 08:51 |
| Ohm | crystalspace was very cool, but pyglet even cooler | 08:51 |
| Ohm | oh well, I should make some breakfast. You sleep well | 08:51 |
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| JLafont | Yay for sleep! | 10:53 |
| JLP | JLafont: exactly :) if only you could do it in parallel with work :) | 10:57 |
| JLafont | JLP: That would be a dream come true | 10:57 |
| JLafont | And now to do a quick implementation of my AI idea | 11:01 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 12:52 |
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| JLP | cherez: ahoy | 13:43 |
| JLP | cherez: nice to see you again | 13:44 |
| Epyon | JLP, no idea when mithro will be online? | 13:47 |
| cherez | JLP: Saluton! | 13:47 |
| JLP | Epyon: 4:21 @ mithro | 13:47 |
| Epyon | !seen mithro | 13:48 |
| Epyon | duh, forgot the command -_- | 13:48 |
| JLP | Epyon: probably he'll be online in about 3-5 hours | 13:48 |
| JLP | ~seen mithro | 13:48 |
| tpb | JLP: mithro was last seen in #tp 4 hours, 58 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <mithro> Ohm: so do the other developers :) | 13:48 |
| Epyon | Good :) | 13:49 |
| Ohm | I think he went to bed | 13:50 |
| JLP | cherez: ready to try once again with gsoc? | 13:50 |
| Ohm | time to cook some food | 13:51 |
| cherez | JLP: I'm leaning toward it. | 13:52 |
| JLP | cherez: cool | 13:52 |
| JLP | cherez: you applied with MTSec last year, right? | 13:52 |
| cherez | Yeah. | 13:54 |
| cherez | Has anyone done MTSec yet? | 13:54 |
| Epyon | cherez, afaik not, but I'm willing to do the graphics for it :) | 13:55 |
| JLP | cherez: something is running on demo2 server :) | 13:55 |
| JLP | cherez: but it is not complete as far as i know | 13:56 |
| cherez | I may have to check that out. | 13:58 |
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| niphree | hello | 14:39 |
| JLP | niphree: ahoy, great to see you again | 14:39 |
| niphree | JLP: hello, nice to see you too | 14:39 |
| Epyon | :> | 14:39 |
| niphree | Epyon: hi :> | 14:40 |
| JLP | niphree: so what project are you thinking about this year? | 14:43 |
| niphree | JLP: I don't know if I'll join gsoc this year, I don't know if I'll have time for it | 14:46 |
| JLP | niphree: too bad :( lack of time really sux | 14:46 |
| niphree | JLP: yes :/ | 14:47 |
| niphree | JLP: but maybe I want to help with my previous project | 14:48 |
| JLP | niphree: sure, you're more than welcome to, anytime you have some free time | 14:48 |
| niphree | JLP: ok :] | 14:50 |
| Epyon | Let's make niphree a mentor xP | 15:06 |
| JLP | If she has enough time and would like to do this then I don't see any reason why not to | 15:07 |
| niphree | no, no, very bad idea :D | 15:15 |
| JLP | :) | 15:19 |
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| mithro | cherez: ping? | 18:06 |
| mithro | brb | 18:12 |
| mithro | niphree! | 18:27 |
| mithro | welcome back | 18:27 |
| cherez | mithro: pong | 18:29 |
| mithro | cherez: good to see you back around | 18:29 |
| greywhind | mithro: do you know who I might talk to about the age requirement for SoC? | 18:30 |
| mithro | took me forever to try and find your email as you didn't include your nick in your email :) | 18:30 |
| mithro | greywhind: well, you could try lh on #gsoc - I don't think they are able to do much about it I'm afraid | 18:31 |
| mithro | which is a real bummer :/ | 18:31 |
| greywhind | mithro: probably not... but I might as well try | 18:32 |
| cherez | How did the projects turn out last summer? | 18:33 |
| mithro | greywhind: I'll definately investigate some other options for you - but none of them are as good as GSoC | 18:33 |
| mithro | cherez: 3 success, 1 failure | 18:34 |
| greywhind | mithro: well, it's hard to find things as good as SoC | 18:34 |
| mithro | http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/news.php/2007-10-20-1302 | 18:34 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1hLJ> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 18:34 |
| CIA-13 | mithro web * rb0a974e963ef /news/2008-03-17-2121.news: Made the headline a little shorter. | 18:39 |
| mithro | greywhind: I'm really disappointed :/ | 18:39 |
| cherez | Was that php client the failure? | 18:39 |
| greywhind | mithro: i am as well. | 18:39 |
| mithro | cherez: it was going to be a python web client, and yes that one did not pass | 18:40 |
| cherez | Ahh, that's too bad. | 18:40 |
| greywhind | lh said there was no way around it, as I expected. | 18:41 |
| mithro | greywhind: sorry :/ | 18:42 |
| mithro | anyway have to run to work | 18:42 |
| greywhind | k. cya later. | 18:42 |
| mithro | I'll be back in 30-40 minutes | 18:42 |
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| tpb | New news from http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/rss.php: Thousand Parsec accepted into Google Summer of Code 2008! | 19:02 |
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| mithro | hey people | 19:23 |
| Epyon | yo mithro :) | 19:29 |
| mithro | hey Epyon | 19:29 |
| mithro | ~seen nash | 19:29 |
| tpb | mithro: nash was last seen in #tp 2 weeks, 5 days, 18 hours, 55 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <nash> night | 19:29 |
| mithro | I wonder what has happened to nash | 19:29 |
| Epyon | Weeks? O.o | 19:29 |
| Epyon | He's alive at least -- Pigdin reports he was last seen on jabber 1 day and 18 jours ago | 19:30 |
| mithro | Epyon: it could just be his computer signing in :) | 19:32 |
| cherez | So what things are the devs hoping to get done this year? | 19:34 |
| mithro | we are concentrating on making the games more usable/playable | 19:36 |
| mithro | so that means | 19:36 |
| mithro | 1. New playable games | 19:36 |
| mithro | 2. Improving the clients and servers | 19:36 |
| greywhind | mithro: sounds good. | 19:37 |
| mithro | cherez: www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Ideas_for_Programmers | 19:37 |
| cherez | Whoo, MTSec again. :P | 19:37 |
| mithro | cherez: not a huge amount of progress in that regard | 19:37 |
| mithro | http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Clone_Ruleset | 19:38 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1bX9> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 19:38 |
| cherez | Whoo, I could touch up my proposal from last year and resubmit it. | 19:38 |
| mithro | ~seen BZA | 19:38 |
| tpb | mithro: BZA was last seen in #tp 12 hours, 43 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <BZA> great, sent that off. One less thing to do for now =) g'night guys | 19:38 |
| mithro | ~seen xdotx | 19:39 |
| tpb | mithro: xdotx was last seen in #tp 14 hours, 20 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <xdotx> heya :) | 19:39 |
| cherez | Schemepy looks pretty fun too.... | 19:40 |
| cherez | mithro: Is the gist of the Schemepy improvements just adding new backends? | 19:45 |
| mithro | cherez: and the test suite to make sure all the backends work to the same level is important | 19:45 |
| mithro | I have to admit that is probably one of the lower priority tasks | 19:47 |
| mithro | but it is pretty fun to work on | 19:47 |
| mithro | greywhind: ping? | 19:47 |
| cherez | I got that impression reading it. | 19:47 |
| cherez | I've written a lot of game servers lately, some purer programming would be a nice change. :) | 19:47 |
| mithro | if we got a few rulesets for tpserver-py working then it would become more important | 19:47 |
| greywhind | mithro: pong | 19:48 |
| mithro | greywhind: so I'm hoping to do a release this weekend | 19:48 |
| mithro | so where is all your stuff at? | 19:48 |
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| mithro | hey llnz | 19:55 |
| mithro | it's been a bit weird that we haven't gotten more students appearing here yet | 19:55 |
| mithro | JLP: ping? | 19:57 |
| greywhind | mithro: heh... what would you like me to do by the release? | 19:58 |
| mithro | greywhind: well, did you end up doing the no-objects popup? | 19:59 |
| greywhind | mithro: i did... try logging in to Demo1 as guest with the updated orderxrc branch client | 20:00 |
| mithro | just testing now | 20:00 |
| mithro | okay, we should probably update that text a little | 20:00 |
| greywhind | sure | 20:01 |
| mithro | greywhind: so how far along is your resource selection stuff? | 20:01 |
| greywhind | mithro: well, if you want me to totally change it to get rid of some of those bugs, not very far :( | 20:01 |
| greywhind | i'll do as much as I can today, though | 20:01 |
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| JLP | mithro: pong. | 20:18 |
| JLP | jaffer: ahoy | 20:18 |
| mithro | greywhind: okay | 20:18 |
| jaffer | Hello! | 20:18 |
| mithro | JLP: just looking through the mailing list logs and it looks like a majority of students where participating through the forums | 20:19 |
| mithro | so I think we should make getting a working forum (even if not linked to the mailing list) a high priority | 20:19 |
| jaffer | Speaking of students, I should introduce myself, as I am one of them | 20:19 |
| mithro | greywhind: well, we just need the code to be in a stable state by friday my time | 20:20 |
| mithro | greywhind: it would also be good if you could build mac packages over the weekend | 20:20 |
| JLP | mithro: interesting info, will try to bring it up right away | 20:20 |
| greywhind | mithro: if i don't get the new selector built by Friday, would you rather use the slightly buggy one or the old single-selection one? | 20:20 |
| JLP | mithro: do I only create a GSoC forum or all the others too? | 20:21 |
| mithro | JLP: not sure | 20:21 |
| mithro | maybe a GSoC forum would be a good start | 20:21 |
| mithro | (and a read-only developer/user forums) | 20:21 |
| JLP | jaffer: great to see you here, have you looked at the ideas page yet? | 20:21 |
| mithro | greywhind: not sure, I'll leave it in your hands to figure out which works best | 20:21 |
| jaffer | JLP: yes I have, I'm a 2nd year comp sci student, havent worked on any big projects, I think I would be able to tackle creating a ruleset. | 20:22 |
| greywhind | mithro: well, the only bug that happens on my computer is the "refuse to give focus back" one | 20:22 |
| jaffer | JLP: I actually emailed llnz a few minutes ago about it, since I understand he is the rulesets guy | 20:22 |
| greywhind | mithro: the other issues don't appear on Mac | 20:22 |
| mithro | jaffer: llnz is the tpserver-c++ guy | 20:23 |
| mithro | I'm the tpserver-py guy | 20:23 |
| jaffer | oh, it mentioned on the mentors list he was on rulesets :P | 20:23 |
| JLP | jaffer: it depends on the server for which you would like to do ruleset for | 20:26 |
| jaffer | JLP: c++ is what I know best | 20:26 |
| JLP | for c++ server/rulesets llnz is the right persion, for python ones mithro is | 20:26 |
| JLP | jaffer: so yit looks like you got the right persion :) | 20:27 |
| jaffer | JLP: lol, I thought about it long and hard, didn't want to mess up first impressions! | 20:27 |
| JLP | jaffer: don't worry to much, that's why we are here for, to answer the questions you might have | 20:28 |
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| mithro | hey bddebian | 20:28 |
| JLP | jaffer: and pointing you in the right direction | 20:28 |
| JLP | mithro: should the forum just be called GSoC or should I create some common forum that could also be used for AI competitions or other Special Events | 20:29 |
| bddebian | Heya mithro | 20:29 |
| mithro | JLP: which ever you think is best | 20:29 |
| jaffer | JLP: awesome. The process of getting a GSoC project is so foreign to me compared to applying with a company for a position :P | 20:30 |
| JLP | mithro: in my opinion all this belongs simply to the Development forum :) | 20:30 |
| mithro | jaffer: becoming part of a FOSS project is nothing like applying for a company really :) | 20:31 |
| JLP | jaffer: yeah it is much more relaxed and fun :) | 20:31 |
| mithro | JLP: the other option is to setup a phpbb 2.x series with the older m2f | 20:31 |
| jaffer | mithro: i've noticed. I haven't lurked on irc in so long though! | 20:31 |
| JLP | mithro: well for now i will create a Special Events forum and when we get M2F working I will create the other ones to mirror mailing lists | 20:32 |
| mithro | JLP: sounds good | 20:32 |
| mithro | make sure you add a welcome post | 20:33 |
| mithro | when does the GSoC application process open? | 20:33 |
| jaffer | mithro: 24 to 31st | 20:33 |
| mithro | okay, thats next monday | 20:33 |
| jaffer | yeah, atleast university is in between exams now | 20:34 |
| mithro | JLP: I'll have a look at fixing the remaining m2f problems over the weekend | 20:34 |
| mithro | JLP: I think we should just pick a decently looking dark/black theme rather then worrying about finding the perfect one | 20:35 |
| jaffer | so can any of you tell me what kind of coding skills are required to make a ruleset? | 20:36 |
| mithro | jaffer: well you will need either C++ or Python skills, and you will need to learn some scheme | 20:42 |
| jaffer | mithro: Ok, i have c++, I will probably start delving into scheme in my spare time this week | 20:43 |
| mithro | jaffer: I would recommend diving into the C++ code in tpserver-cpp and looking at the existing rulesets too | 20:43 |
| jaffer | mithro: that I can do | 20:44 |
| cherez | mithro: Is the Python server still lagging behind the C++? | 20:44 |
| mithro | cherez: kind of | 20:44 |
| mithro | I think it's more stable and the code is cleaner | 20:45 |
| mithro | but the c++ server has had a whole bunch of new features which should make more advanced stuff easier | 20:45 |
| cherez | As a matter of principle, I hate to see a Python server lagging behind a C++ in features. | 20:46 |
| JLP | mithro: forum created, looks ok? | 20:47 |
| mithro | cherez: I do too | 20:47 |
| mithro | but I've been concentrating on the client | 20:47 |
| mithro | JLP: can we get a black theme for the forums? | 20:49 |
| cherez | Who would be the one to talk to about server work? | 20:49 |
| mithro | cherez: python server work? that would be me | 20:49 |
| JLP | mithro: just looking on that theme page | 20:49 |
| cherez | Oh, sweet. | 20:49 |
| mithro | JLP: there where a couple there that where not perfect, but we could make do with | 20:50 |
| JLP | mithro: would this one be ok: http://www.phpbb3styles.net/db/style/Black+Pearl | 20:52 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1eLu> (at www.phpbb3styles.net) | 20:52 |
| jaffer | mithro: do you know what times llnz is usually active on irc? | 20:52 |
| mithro | jaffer: he is in New Zealand | 20:53 |
| mithro | normally active around 5-6 hours from now | 20:53 |
| jaffer | mithro: i just noticed that :P | 20:53 |
| mithro | sometimes he is active now depend on what is going on at work | 20:53 |
| * mithro pokes llnz | 20:53 | |
| JLP | mithro: or this one: http://demo.phpbb3styles.net/BlackDiamond | 20:53 |
| tpb | Title: BlackDiamond phpBB3 Styles Demo - phpBB3styles.net (at demo.phpbb3styles.net) | 20:53 |
| mithro | JLP: yeah looks fine - would probably work quite well with the tp logo in the corner | 20:53 |
| mithro | JLP: either one would be fine | 20:54 |
| mithro | I think I like the cleaner BlackDiamond a little better | 20:55 |
| JLP | i like the green colored circle in the second one, almost like the color on the webpage | 20:55 |
| mithro | JLP: yeah, lets go with BlackDiamond | 20:56 |
| JLP | mithro: ok BlackDiamond it is :) | 20:56 |
| greywhind | JLP: i like that one | 20:59 |
| jaffer | i'm assuming its easiest to grab a copy of the source code and set up cogito in linux correct? | 21:01 |
| mithro | jaffer: yes, there is setup instructions on the wiki | 21:03 |
| jaffer | mithro: ok, I am probably already there | 21:03 |
| jaffer | well then I must depart to boot into linux | 21:04 |
| JLP | wow what's with my upload, blazingly fast at about 1k/s | 21:04 |
| jaffer | goodnight all | 21:04 |
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| mithro | JLP: woot, you back in the 1990's | 21:05 |
| Epyon | mithro, I'll probably be applying this year again | 21:06 |
| mithro | Epyon: okay cool | 21:07 |
| JLP | the theme is st | 21:07 |
| JLP | just have to change the logo | 21:07 |
| mithro | JLP: a little squashed :) | 21:22 |
| JLP | mithro: yeah, noticed | 21:22 |
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| CIA-13 | tim * r67 media/promotion/logo/ (zzorn-black.png zzorn-black.svg): A version of the zzorn logo for black backgrounds. | 21:24 |
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| mithro | JLP: have a look at them | 21:24 |
| CIA-13 | tim * r68 media/promotion/logo/ (zzorn-black.png zzorn-black.svg): Small updates to be like the version on the business cards. | 21:29 |
| mithro | JLP: those are the logo on the business cards | 21:29 |
| * JLP checks it out | 21:30 | |
| JLP | mithro: hm looks like inkscape is not able to open the svg file | 21:32 |
| mithro | JLP: WTF? It was produced in inkscape | 21:33 |
| JLP | mithro: hm now it works, look like something went wrong when downloading | 21:35 |
| mithro | JLP: :/ | 21:36 |
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| jphr | mithro: couldn't register jaffer as my user name so I had to change it to this | 21:39 |
| mithro | jphr: ahh okay | 21:40 |
| mithro | I figured as much from your host mask | 21:40 |
| jphr | mithro: yeah, so I just cg clone the bits from git I need? tpserver-cpp? | 21:41 |
| mithro | be back in 1 hour | 21:44 |
| mithro | http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Tpserver-cpp_Setup | 21:45 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/rVo> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 21:45 |
| jphr | mithro: thanks, ttyl | 21:45 |
| jphr | what is the best version of automake to use? | 21:48 |
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| jphr | llnz: hello | 21:55 |
| llnz | hi jphr | 21:55 |
| jphr | llnz: Name's Ryan neufeld, I'm hoping to be a GSoC student. I sent you an introduction email an hour or two ago :D | 21:56 |
| llnz | cool | 21:56 |
| jphr | llnz: I need to be off to study for a midterm, i'll let you read my email and I will talk to you later on | 21:57 |
| llnz | sure, no problem | 21:58 |
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| CIA-13 | jlp web * r1fe20725e91a /bits/start_page.inc: Enabled Forums link | 22:33 |
| CIA-13 | jlp web * r0f334104f288 /news/2008-03-17-2121.news: Merge with central repository | 22:33 |
| JL | mithro: Is RFTS coded for the Python Server? | 22:40 |
| mithro | JL: no | 22:40 |
| mithro | JL: it is a ruleset for the C++ server | 22:41 |
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| JLafont | mithro: So I'd have to code the AI in C++? | 22:42 |
| mithro | JLafont: nope | 22:42 |
| mithro | AI are just computer controlled clients | 22:42 |
| JLafont | Ahhh ok | 22:43 |
| mithro | they connect to a server and work just like any other user | 22:43 |
| JLafont | That awesome, I'll have to play around with it a little bit more then | 22:46 |
| JLP | well link to forums is active now, the GSoC forum seems to work | 22:49 |
| JLP | mithro: i've marked you as admin for the forum | 22:50 |
| mithro | JLP: cool | 22:50 |
| JLP | i guess i should better get sleeping now, 4 am here | 22:50 |
| JLP | good night all | 22:50 |
| greywhind | mithro: ping? | 22:51 |
| mithro | greywhind: pong | 22:51 |
| greywhind | mithro: i've replaced the popupctrl with a button, but i'm not sure how to cause the selection window to hide when I click elsewhere, rather than going behind the front window... | 22:52 |
| mithro | greywhind: I think you can hook on the loss of focus event | 22:52 |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... do you happen to know what the event is? | 22:53 |
| mithro | nope, I'm pretty sure it has a confusing name too :/ | 22:53 |
| mithro | maybe something like Activate | 22:53 |
| mithro | another option is to bind on mouse motion and check for mouse events outside the window | 22:53 |
| greywhind | "A focus event is sent when a window's focus changes. The window losing focus receives an EVT_KILL_FOCUS event while the window gaining it gets an EVT_SET_FOCUS event." | 22:55 |
| greywhind | mithro: the only problem with that is that the window doesn't seem to be losing focus when i click outside it, but it does when i click on one of the controls inside it... | 23:01 |
| mithro | greywhind: those FOCUS events are not quite what you want | 23:01 |
| mithro | they are for things inside a window | 23:01 |
| mithro | you want ACTIVATE I think | 23:01 |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... k | 23:01 |
| greywhind | mithro: alright! it works! | 23:07 |
| mithro | greywhind: wow! cool :) | 23:07 |
| CIA-13 | noegnud tpclient-pywx-orderxrc * r720870223fc0 /windows/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Redid some of the Resource Selector code to remove some tough bugs. | 23:20 |
| greywhind | mithro: try that | 23:20 |
| mithro | will need to check it a bit later | 23:26 |
| greywhind | mithro: ok. let me know how it goes (either today, if within the next... 2 hours, or tomorrow) | 23:27 |
| llnz | bbl | 23:33 |
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| [1]ApacheChief | Hi guys, I'm interested in writing the Web Client in PHP/Ajax--what's up? :) | 23:38 |
| mithro | [1]ApacheChief: your nick looks familiar :) | 23:46 |
| mithro | where you around last year? | 23:46 |
| [1]ApacheChief | I did come here a while ago | 23:46 |
| [1]ApacheChief | I _think_ so | 23:47 |
| mithro | I guess we could always search the IRC logs :) | 23:47 |
| [1]ApacheChief | I was looking for this project and re-found it, I think I forgot to come by this last summer, not sure though | 23:47 |
| [1]ApacheChief | sure, lol | 23:47 |
| [1]ApacheChief | [2007-11-29 19:24:55] <ApacheChief> Hi, mithro? | 23:48 |
| [1]ApacheChief | [2007-11-29 19:25:05] <mithro> hi ApacheChief | 23:48 |
| [1]ApacheChief | [2007-11-29 19:25:09] <mithro> your new around here? | 23:48 |
| [1]ApacheChief | lol | 23:48 |
| [1]ApacheChief | [2007-11-29 20:22:28] <ApacheChief> I think I can be a little helpful for ya guys | 23:48 |
| [1]ApacheChief | [2007-11-29 20:23:05] <ApacheChief> I can, hopefully, do PHP/Ajax | 23:48 |
| [1]ApacheChief | that's as far as I got on IRC | 23:48 |
| mithro | he he okay | 23:49 |
| mithro | so you are not here for GSoC, or? | 23:50 |
| [1]ApacheChief | I am for GSoC now, that I'm actually in college and such :) | 23:50 |
| mithro | cool | 23:58 |
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