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| mithro | Alklomion: ping? | 00:31 |
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| mithro | hello CISCO, you new here? | 00:31 |
| Alklomion | hey | 00:31 |
| mithro | Alklomion: all the stuff you sent me look fine | 00:32 |
| mithro | I'll send you a response tonight | 00:32 |
| Alklomion | cool, i'll need to add something about the library and conversions | 00:32 |
| mithro | okay | 00:32 |
| Alklomion | i'd be interested if we could pass the weekly meeting with you off as something we do on IRC | 00:33 |
| CISCO | yep | 00:33 |
| CISCO | first time here | 00:33 |
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| mithro | Alklomion: that could be a possibility | 00:42 |
| Alklomion | it could certainly be beneficial to all parties - Chris doesn't need to be at the client meetings, the city is out of the way and you tend to be on IRC all the time | 00:43 |
| mithro | he he | 00:48 |
| mithro | yeah, I do tend to be on here way to much :) | 00:48 |
| mithro | CISCO: do you need help with anything? | 00:48 |
| mithro | be back in 5 | 00:49 |
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| mithro | Alklomion: have you had any luck investigating MIDP stuff? | 00:54 |
| Alklomion | further than reading wikipedia, not yet | 00:54 |
| mithro | Alklomion: I think that is one of the most important things you should be looking into | 00:55 |
| mithro | as finding a good simulator/emulator/etc is going to be important | 00:55 |
| mithro | and it will also dictate which hardware we look into getting | 00:56 |
| mithro | Alklomion: any luck with the SSH tunnel? | 00:56 |
| Alklomion | i have not been to uni to try it there | 00:57 |
| mithro | Alklomion: okay | 00:58 |
| mithro | Alklomion: your on Windows mainly? | 00:58 |
| Alklomion | I'll most definitely spend some time over the weekend reading up on MIDP | 00:58 |
| Alklomion | mithro: yes | 00:59 |
| mithro | Alklomion: okay | 01:05 |
| mithro | Alklomion: I would recommend installing cygwin | 01:06 |
| mithro | Alklomion: I'm hoping to do a 0.3.1 release of tpclient-pywx just before easter | 01:08 |
| Alklomion | cool | 01:09 |
| Alklomion | bug fixes? | 01:13 |
| mithro | Alklomion: and loads of new features | 01:26 |
| mithro | kind of "we forgot we hadn't finished everything" features :) | 01:27 |
| mithro | also trying to improve the support for playing RFTS | 01:27 |
| Alklomion | cool | 01:29 |
| mithro | Alklomion: also trying to clean up for the Google Summer of Code | 01:32 |
| mithro | which brings in a load of new recruits | 01:32 |
| mithro | take a look at http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code | 01:33 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1ffR> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 01:33 |
| mithro | and | 01:33 |
| mithro | http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Ideas_for_Programmers | 01:33 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1ZnB> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 01:33 |
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| mithro | hey llnz | 03:15 |
| llnz | hi mithro | 03:15 |
| mithro | llnz: you got some more time to do some work on the tpserver-cpp ideas? | 03:16 |
| llnz | yes, i should do | 03:17 |
| mithro | some of them are not really big enough for GSoC - maybe group then together in a similar way to the tpclient-pywx? | 03:17 |
| mithro | llnz: i think it's okay to make that page a little GSoC specific for the moment | 03:18 |
| llnz | i thought I would mark the ones that are gsoc sized, and maybe the ones people have said they would look into | 03:18 |
| llnz | ah, ok | 03:19 |
| mithro | brb | 03:40 |
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| mithro | yay! I have nice fonts back | 04:49 |
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| mithro | hey everyone | 05:45 |
| llnz | wb mithro | 05:45 |
| mithro | oh, llnz - did you see my commit from last night? | 05:45 |
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| JLP | morning all | 05:47 |
| llnz | which one? | 05:47 |
| llnz | hi JLP | 05:47 |
| mithro | llnz: http://git.thousandparsec.net/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=tpclient-pywx.git;a=commit;h=7601d07987550d08a9c1efa557578f0659a6b676 | 05:48 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1fek> (at git.thousandparsec.net) | 05:48 |
| llnz | ah, yeah | 05:48 |
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| mithro | hrm, something seems to be broken with RFTS and caching | 06:11 |
| mithro | xdotx: HTF do I build a colonist ship? | 06:14 |
| llnz | mithro: iirc, building things only occurs every 3 turns | 06:14 |
| xdotx | mithro: need colonists ;) | 06:14 |
| mithro | I can build scouts fine | 06:14 |
| mithro | xdotx: you are not changing the modtime each turn for planets | 06:15 |
| llnz | mithro: that might be the core not doing the right thing | 06:15 |
| llnz | yet | 06:15 |
| mithro | xdotx: you change which orders are valid on the planet each turn right? | 06:16 |
| * xdotx nods | 06:16 | |
| llnz | humm... | 06:17 |
| llnz | maybe it should have multiple queues? | 06:17 |
| mithro | llnz: well, it's because production only happens every second turn | 06:17 |
| mithro | so you can only add produce orders every X turns | 06:18 |
| llnz | why not allow them being added every turn, but only process that queue every other turn | 06:18 |
| llnz | ? | 06:19 |
| llnz | (other than tpclient-pywx not supporting it yet) | 06:19 |
| xdotx | that's kind of confusing? | 06:19 |
| xdotx | why can you add something that doesn't do anything? | 06:19 |
| xdotx | (or so it will seem to the player) | 06:19 |
| llnz | but if the first order in the queue is a build order and i want to change it and it's not the correct turn then i will not be able to | 06:20 |
| llnz | it should do something (for example, the turns to complete should decrease by one) | 06:21 |
| llnz | tpserver-cpp even has support for disabling order queues | 06:21 |
| xdotx | llnz: ah, so then you're saying add the order, but give it a few turns to complete | 06:21 |
| llnz | yeah | 06:21 |
| xdotx | llnz: yeah i could see that making sense and being convenient\ | 06:22 |
| mithro | xdotx: split fleet doesn't let you set the name of the new fleet | 06:22 |
| mithro | xdotx: you definately want to be able to queue up orders for multiple turns | 06:23 |
| * xdotx was just following the RFTS design | 06:24 | |
| mithro | 008-03-13 20:58:27 < Info > End Of Turn started | 06:25 |
| mithro | 2008-03-13 20:58:27 < Info > End Of Turn finished | 06:25 |
| mithro | tpserver-cpp> Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 06:25 |
| mithro | :) | 06:25 |
| llnz | mithro: bt please :-) | 06:25 |
| xdotx | i've definitely hit a couple crashes in RFTS EOTs | 06:27 |
| * llnz is going to change the TurnProcessor interface soon | 06:28 | |
| mithro | xdotx: I can colonise a planet that a fleet is not in orbit around :) | 06:37 |
| xdotx | mithro: ...wha? re...wha? | 06:38 |
| xdotx | mithro: but.. but you're orbiting that star system right? | 06:39 |
| mithro | xdotx: nope | 06:39 |
| xdotx | mithro: erm. lemme check that :P | 06:39 |
| xdotx | hmmm.. yeah. you can can't you | 06:41 |
| mithro | :) | 06:42 |
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| mithro | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1913418&group_id=132078&atid=723099 | 06:42 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1fp4> (at sourceforge.net) | 06:42 |
| mithro | hello Preferred, you new? | 06:42 |
| Preferred | total newb | 06:42 |
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| BZA | but, I am not lost, I am here because I am interested in TP for the comming GSOC | 06:43 |
| mithro | BZA: what do you want to know? | 06:44 |
| xdotx | heheh. | 06:44 |
| xdotx | mithro: that's my friend that's interested in the risk clone ;) | 06:44 |
| BZA | yup | 06:44 |
| mithro | xdotx: ahh cool :) | 06:44 |
| llnz | cool | 06:45 |
| BZA | you'lle forgive me if I din;t know right now what I want to know right now | 06:45 |
| BZA | and I am no TypingPro++ | 06:46 |
| mithro | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1913418&group_id=132078&atid=723099 | 06:46 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1fp4> (at sourceforge.net) | 06:46 |
| * llnz has a look | 06:49 | |
| mithro | BZA: we have two pages which might be of interest to you | 06:51 |
| mithro | http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Ideas_for_Programmers | 06:51 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1ffR> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 06:51 |
| BZA | mithro: wonderful | 06:51 |
| mithro | BZA: which operating system do you run? | 06:53 |
| CIA-13 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r57655e572952 /tpserver/objectview.cpp: | 06:54 |
| CIA-13 | Also test if object is null before !object->isAlive in ObjectView::packFrame. | 06:54 |
| CIA-13 | Fixes Bug 1913418. | 06:54 |
| CIA-13 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r995aa460dba2 /tpserver/ (objectview.h playeragent.cpp): Merge with git+ssh://[email protected]/var/lib/git/tpserver-cpp.git | 06:54 |
| mithro | BZA: http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/gettingstarted.php this page might also be useful | 06:55 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/J4s> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 06:55 |
| BZA | mithro: I fully intend doing the research by both checking out as much web resources as I can, playing a ruleset (probably xdotx's) of rech for the stars ASAP so that I can get a good idea for my proposal | 06:56 |
| mithro | BZA: cool | 06:56 |
| mithro | I would recommend using the current git version of tpclient-pywx | 06:57 |
| BZA | mithro: I am very excited about a risk ruleset thou :) | 06:57 |
| mithro | I've been working on improving the RFTS support | 06:57 |
| BZA | mithro: okay, great | 06:58 |
| mithro | BZA: cool, it's probably slightly easier than RFTS but should be quite fun | 06:58 |
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| BZA | mithro: RFTS == ? | 06:58 |
| xdotx | Reach For The Stars | 06:58 |
| mithro | It's a classic 4X game | 06:59 |
| BZA | mithro: ah okay :) | 06:59 |
| mithro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reach_for_the_Stars | 06:59 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1fpM> (at en.wikipedia.org) | 06:59 |
| BZA | mithro: yeah, I remember xdotx talling about it. I am pretty familiat, I have played MOO2 and GalCiv2 a decent ammount | 07:00 |
| mithro | BZA: cool | 07:00 |
| mithro | hopefully, we will eventually be able to clone all of them too :) | 07:00 |
| BZA | mithro: GalCiv2 clone would be some serious AI work though | 07:01 |
| mithro | BZA: it's still a while off :) | 07:02 |
| mithro | BZA: if you have any questions - please feel free to ask | 07:15 |
| BZA | mithro: I completely will. I plan on putting in as much research as I can before I submit my app. Balancing that with school, that is the tricky part =) | 07:17 |
| mithro | BZA: we are happy to help | 07:18 |
| BZA | mithro: glad to hear | 07:18 |
| mithro | students who participate in the community are much more likely to get accepted :) | 07:19 |
| xdotx | mithro, master of the carrot :P | 07:22 |
| llnz | mithro: is the tpserver-cpp section on Ideas for Progammers page a bit better? | 07:25 |
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| JLP | is nash ok? haven't seen him for a while | 07:28 |
| llnz | JLP: he is away (travelling, iirc) | 07:29 |
| xdotx | qgit is my new friend | 07:29 |
| mithro | JLP: I think he is holidaying in NZ? | 07:32 |
| llnz | mithro: i thought it was business in Asia somewhere | 07:32 |
| mithro | maybe | 07:35 |
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| JLP_ | heh, looks like the other ISP went down | 07:39 |
| * llnz should sleep | 07:40 | |
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| llnz | later all | 07:42 |
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| mithro | JLP: :/ | 07:48 |
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| mithro | JLP: any luck with the videos? | 07:51 |
| JLP | mithro: i recorded some tests with voice yesterday, today when i get back home i will start recording the real stuff | 07:53 |
| mithro | JLP: you seem to travel alot :) | 07:54 |
| JLP | mithro: at least two times a day :) | 07:54 |
| mithro | JLP: btw what do you do? | 07:54 |
| JLP | mithro: mainly documentation and qa | 07:55 |
| mithro | JLP: I mean, as a job/student/etc? | 07:56 |
| JLP | mithro: the above was for job (part time), otherwise physics student | 07:57 |
| mithro | JLP: oh, I remeber that now :) | 07:57 |
| mithro | xdotx: can you make the home planet have the home world resource? | 08:07 |
| xdotx | mithro: is that what determines the map centering? ;P | 08:08 |
| mithro | it will default to the home world if it can find it | 08:08 |
| mithro | otherwise it defaults to the universe object | 08:08 |
| xdotx | that would explain the behaviour | 08:08 |
| mithro | xdotx: Is this bug still open? http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1777162&group_id=132078&atid=723099 | 08:08 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1fqY> (at sourceforge.net) | 08:08 |
| mithro | The messages seem to look fine at the moment | 08:09 |
| xdotx | not sure. lemme see | 08:09 |
| mithro | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1777137&group_id=132078&atid=723099 <- is that a problem too? | 08:09 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1fq_> (at sourceforge.net) | 08:09 |
| mithro | xdotx: I don't seem to be able to reproduce your hiding bug | 08:15 |
| mithro | got a reproducable walkthrough | 08:15 |
| xdotx | mithro: ah i remember the newline thing now. i don't think it obeys a '\n' but instead i switched to <br/> | 08:18 |
| mithro | ahh | 08:18 |
| xdotx | i'd call it resolved | 08:18 |
| mithro | yeah, the whole "formatted strings are unspecified" :) | 08:18 |
| CIA-13 | mithro tpclient-pywx-orderxrc * rce1425c45792 /windows/main/panelPicture.py: Fix the download average calculation. | 08:34 |
| CIA-13 | mithro tpclient-pywx-orderxrc * ree67d8bbf585 /windows/main/panelOrder.py: Prevent errors about pyDeadObject. | 08:34 |
| mithro | xdotx: I think I have a possible fix for your problem - but I have no idea how to reproduce it | 08:38 |
| xdotx | hmm. all i think i did was just resize the lowest panel back up after the first turn ended | 08:39 |
| * xdotx shrugs | 08:39 | |
| mithro | xdotx: well, if you apply this patch | 08:42 |
| mithro | http://pastebin.ca/940963 | 08:44 |
| tpb | Title: general pastebin - mithro - post number 940963 (at pastebin.ca) | 08:44 |
| mithro | xdotx: should I delete the other key? | 08:46 |
| xdotx | mithro: yeah i think | 08:47 |
| mithro | xdotx: done | 08:47 |
| mithro | give it a try | 08:47 |
| xdotx | Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic). :( | 08:49 |
| mithro | ahh your user is not xdotx :) | 08:53 |
| mithro | it's tyler | 08:53 |
| xdotx | oh doh. didn't set it in the key | 08:53 |
| mithro | Mar 13 08:49:12 verbal sshd[23606]: input_userauth_request: invalid user xdotx | 08:55 |
| mithro | Mar 13 08:49:12 verbal sshd[23606]: Failed none for invalid user xdotx from 71.231.181.162 port 39973 ssh2 | 08:55 |
| mithro | xdotx: any luck? | 08:58 |
| xdotx | mithro: er, do i specify a user as part of the url? | 08:59 |
| mithro | git+ssh://[email protected]/ | 08:59 |
| * xdotx knew that | 08:59 | |
| xdotx | :P | 08:59 |
| mithro | xdotx: did that patch help you at all? | 09:00 |
| xdotx | mithro: hadn't tried it yet | 09:01 |
| mithro | slack! :) | 09:04 |
| BZA | mithro: I am taking off to get some sleep. Thank you for all your help and I will be sure and check back in | 09:08 |
| mithro | BZA: cool | 09:08 |
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| xdotx | mithro: can't seem to reproduce the hiding search field | 09:13 |
| mithro | xdotx: with or without the patch? | 09:13 |
| xdotx | mithro: with | 09:13 |
| mithro | xdotx: what happens if you revert it | 09:13 |
| xdotx | mithro: how do i revert? | 09:15 |
| mithro | patch -p1 -R < patch | 09:15 |
| xdotx | mithro: uh oh. not getting it without it either | 09:18 |
| mithro | xdotx: :/ | 09:18 |
| xdotx | mithro: maybe after i get some more sleep... | 09:18 |
| mithro | xdotx: okay, keep me informed | 09:18 |
| xdotx | can do | 09:18 |
| mithro | xdotx: it would be nice if we could get RFTS all fixed up before GSoC starts :) | 09:19 |
| xdotx | agreed | 09:20 |
| mithro | got till monday next week ;) | 09:20 |
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| mithro | morning people | 19:03 |
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| mithro | ~seen greywhind | 19:35 |
| tpb | mithro: greywhind was last seen in #tp 2 days, 22 hours, 8 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <greywhind> mithro: and the move orders seem to work now as well | 19:35 |
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