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| nash | Hey... stupid python question: Does beginning a variable with const_ make it const? Or is it a sort of cross your fingers and hope thing? | 00:14 |
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| nash | Hmm... whenever I start to code something everyone tells me that I should be using python | 00:20 |
| nash | When I have a python question... All I hear is crickets | 00:20 |
| * xdotx barks | 00:22 | |
| xdotx | nash: better? | 00:22 |
| * xdotx ducks | 00:22 | |
| nash | xdotx: If only your duck would eat the crickets | 00:23 |
| xdotx | nash: python doesn't have const :( | 00:29 |
| xdotx | nash: but... http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/65207 | 00:29 |
| tpb | Title: Constants in Python; Submitter: Alex Martelli; Updated: 2001/08/20; Version: 1.1; Category: OOP; Description: In Python, any variable can be re-bound at will -- and modules don't let you define special methods such as an instance's __setattr__ to stop attribute re-binding. Easy solution (in Python 2.1 and up): use an instance as "module"... | 00:29 |
| nash | xdotx: So a variable with the name const_1k is about as constant as the us exchange rate | 00:30 |
| nash | xdotx: Thats basically what I thought | 00:30 |
| xdotx | nash: apparently so. seems pretty lame to me. | 00:30 |
| xdotx | i'm a huge fan of const | 00:31 |
| nash | Indeed. But hey, I'm sure the python-fanatics can tell me why code like: | 00:31 |
| nash | const_1k = 1024 | 00:31 |
| nash | makes sense | 00:31 |
| * nash notes that used to be worth -0.5 marks when he marked assignments | 00:31 | |
| xdotx | man... i need to tell lee how much i dislike his SmartPointer | 00:39 |
| nash | xdotx: Fix it | 00:40 |
| xdotx | o_O | 00:41 |
| xdotx | i suspect he did it the way he did for a reason... but i'm still looking for a good one | 00:41 |
| xdotx | nash: i suppose i could rewrite it to work similarly and still be less-hacky though ;P | 00:43 |
| nash | do it | 00:43 |
| nash | improve the code, more commits, more comments is good | 00:43 |
| xdotx | nash: first things first: i'm getting rid of those gross C-style casts :D | 00:43 |
| nash | xdotx: You need to program more C ;-) | 00:44 |
| xdotx | nash: if i did, i'd define-away all C-style casts into C++-like ones :P | 00:44 |
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| nash | heyo JLP | 00:46 |
| JLP | nash: ahoy | 00:46 |
| JLP | mithro: release reminder | 00:47 |
| JLP | xdotx: great to see you again | 00:47 |
| xdotx | JLP: heya :) | 00:48 |
| JLP | brb, have to fetch something for the breakfast | 00:51 |
| mithro | JLP: remind me in a minute | 00:51 |
| mithro | s/minute/when I get home/ | 00:51 |
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| mithro | so xdotx - you going to finish RFTS? | 01:02 |
| nash | mithro: I think he answered that one ;-) | 01:03 |
| xdotx | mithro: i think the hardest part for me is getting a definite todo/wish list | 01:03 |
| mithro | nash: that is one for you :P | 01:03 |
| nash | xdotx: Advanced rules. | 01:04 |
| nash | Thats it | 01:04 |
| xdotx | heheh | 01:04 |
| nash | Seriously | 01:04 |
| nash | Start doing the ranges, drop the scouts, make stars explode | 01:04 |
| nash | And it's all good | 01:04 |
| nash | fic pdbs | 01:05 |
| nash | s/fic/fix/ | 01:05 |
| xdotx | nash: hmm, fix? | 01:06 |
| nash | PDBs work differently in advanced to normal | 01:06 |
| nash | And make primaries actually worth something, not just a name too | 01:07 |
| xdotx | kk | 01:07 |
| mithro | what are primaries? | 01:08 |
| xdotx | primary planets | 01:09 |
| nash | There are 4 types of planets, primary secondary,k tertiary and hostile | 01:10 |
| nash | In basic, the planet type determines what the stats are at creation time only. So it's quite possible to have a secondary which is better then a primary | 01:10 |
| xdotx | planet types determine their current starting stats atm, iirc | 01:10 |
| nash | (although hostiles always suck) | 01:11 |
| xdotx | heh | 01:11 |
| nash | xdotx: Although you can always use the 10pop 90 industry ones to produce a bit | 01:11 |
| nash | In advanced a fully developed planet can increase it's max pop & industry. | 01:12 |
| nash | And the chance is dependant on the type - Primaries increase most frequently | 01:12 |
| xdotx | kk | 01:13 |
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| JLP | llnz: ahoy, i think xdotx has some question to ask you about SmartPointer | 01:25 |
| llnz | hi JLP | 01:25 |
| llnz | ok | 01:25 |
| xdotx | heheheh. | 01:25 |
| xdotx | llnz: if i was a hateful person, i'd hate that SmartPointer :P | 01:26 |
| llnz | right... ok | 01:26 |
| * llnz reads the logs | 01:26 | |
| xdotx | llnz: why does the client manage the ref count? | 01:26 |
| xdotx | llnz: who's -really- the "smart" one? | 01:27 |
| llnz | because i'm a slack bastard | 01:27 |
| llnz | i know i could do better, see the timer callback and settings callback | 01:28 |
| llnz | which are altered versions of other people's code | 01:28 |
| xdotx | llnz: a smart pointer _template_ should accept all types, not use an non-defined interface (has some publicly accessible "ref") | 01:29 |
| xdotx | "publicly" | 01:29 |
| mithro | templates! | 01:29 |
| llnz | by or definition, none of the stl containers should exist, since they depend on copy constructors and assignment operators (and sometimes op<) | 01:30 |
| llnz | s/or/your/ | 01:30 |
| xdotx | ~~ the work ctors asn ops do is client dependent | 01:31 |
| llnz | true | 01:31 |
| xdotx | huge difference. clients shouldn't be managing their ref count | 01:31 |
| llnz | anyway... so you want me to move the ref count from the objects being ref counted? | 01:31 |
| xdotx | if you're trying to avoid boost, mhmm | 01:32 |
| xdotx | if i wanted a ref counted pointer, i'd just use boost::shared_ptr | 01:33 |
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| xdotx | llnz: oh, on a non-down note, i like the new object api :) | 01:59 |
| llnz | xdotx: cool | 01:59 |
| * JLP just finds out what GHOP is :) | 02:04 | |
| * xdotx <3s Google | 02:10 | |
| xdotx | mithro: i'm packing my TP shirt for my trip to GDC tuesday | 02:12 |
| mithro | xdotx: you better :P | 02:12 |
| mithro | xdotx: I have no idea what you just said | 02:12 |
| llnz | where is GDC? | 02:12 |
| xdotx | llnz: san fran. california | 02:13 |
| * llnz checks the details.... | 02:13 | |
| xdotx | lol | 02:14 |
| xdotx | wiki GDC ? | 02:14 |
| xdotx | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Developers_Conference | 02:14 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1ZZE> (at en.wikipedia.org) | 02:14 |
| llnz | humm.... i don't think google will have me on a plane in time... | 02:15 |
| xdotx | heheh | 02:15 |
| * llnz wonders if xdotx heard that llnz has an interview at google hq sometime soon | 02:15 | |
| xdotx | omg cool | 02:15 |
| llnz | yeah | 02:15 |
| xdotx | don't show them that smart pointer class though *tease* | 02:16 |
| llnz | humm.... what should smartpointer do if it is pointing to NULL | 02:16 |
| llnz | hehehe | 02:16 |
| xdotx | in what case? | 02:17 |
| llnz | apon deferencing | 02:17 |
| xdotx | hmm. assert or just try anyways? | 02:17 |
| llnz | true | 02:17 |
| xdotx | llnz: i recently finished writing a neat "OwnedPtr" template. it's kind of the oppsite of a shared/smart ptr | 02:18 |
| xdotx | llnz: it basically asserts sole ownership of a pointer | 02:19 |
| xdotx | i like that style better, because i like to design classes as either owning or only referencing objects | 02:20 |
| llnz | "Everything can be solved by adding another level of indirection" | 02:24 |
| xdotx | generalization is fun :) | 02:24 |
| llnz | SmartPointer now manages a SmartPointerImpl (holding the ref count and pointer to the real object) | 02:25 |
| xdotx | ooo, is the impl templatized? | 02:26 |
| llnz | yes | 02:26 |
| llnz | commit very shortly, for your evaluation | 02:27 |
| xdotx | heh k | 02:27 |
| xdotx | i fell in love with generic programming late last summer, btw | 02:27 |
| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * rc9aceb410df2 /tpserver/smartpointer.h: | 02:27 |
| CIA-19 | Use SmartPointerImpl as an intermediate so managed classes don't need reference field. | 02:27 |
| CIA-19 | SmartPointer now manages a SmartPointerImpl (holding the ref count and | 02:27 |
| CIA-19 | pointer to the real object). "Everything can be solved by adding another | 02:27 |
| CIA-19 | level of indirection" | 02:27 |
| llnz | :-) | 02:28 |
| llnz | i just hope it works | 02:28 |
| llnz | and it doesn't | 02:28 |
| llnz | oh, right..... | 02:31 |
| llnz | the old smartpointer "new"ed the referenced class when constructed, new version doesn't | 02:33 |
| xdotx | did the previous one not have a ctor from T*, just a default? | 02:36 |
| llnz | it did, but the default constructer created a T* to reference | 02:37 |
| xdotx | i'd remove the T* from the impl, just make it T, since you're already dyn alloc'ing the impl | 02:39 |
| llnz | and create one by default? (ie, in the default constructor?) | 02:40 |
| xdotx | if you're doing it there, yeah | 02:41 |
| llnz | humm... | 02:41 |
| llnz | now i remember why i pulled that out, a lot of the time, it will be immediately thrown away | 02:41 |
| xdotx | mm, and you'd have to check that the T* you get is the same you have, else remove the current one | 02:41 |
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| * xdotx goin' to bed. | 02:55 | |
| llnz | cya xdotx | 02:56 |
| xdotx | llnz: i'd be happy to have a look at the smart ptr in the mornin' | 02:56 |
| llnz | thanks | 02:56 |
| xdotx | llnz: oh, you probably want to consider templatizing the asn op and ctor for another type's pointer too for implicit up-casts | 02:57 |
| llnz | asn op? | 02:57 |
| xdotx | assignment operator | 02:58 |
| llnz | ah | 02:58 |
| llnz | probably not neccessary for the use it is going to get | 02:58 |
| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * re26b7c8c0910 /tpserver/smartpointer.h: Avoid deferencing data pointer if it's NULL, return NULL instead. | 03:08 |
| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * re2b1ee2d41af /tpserver/ (object.cpp objectparametergroupdesc.cpp): Fixed use of smart pointers to make sure the pointer points to something valid. | 03:08 |
| CIA-19 | llnz tpserver-cpp * rb9fde539ff1d /tpserver/ (6 files): Removed unneeded ref fields and tidy up with change to SmartPointer. | 03:08 |
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| mithro | heyo | 03:46 |
| llnz | hi | 03:46 |
| * JLP finished answering the mails | 04:11 | |
| mithro | JLP: I noticed :P | 04:12 |
| * llnz has been updating Ideas for Programmers | 04:12 | |
| jotham | hot | 04:17 |
| jotham | i have my sprites sitting in 3D space but animating on the 2D plane | 04:17 |
| jotham | opengl nub here :p | 04:18 |
| jotham | http://imagebin.org/14107 | 04:20 |
| tpb | Title: Imagebin - A place to slap up your images. (at imagebin.org) | 04:20 |
| llnz | nice | 04:25 |
| mithro | :P | 04:39 |
| jotham | well that's 3 chapters of the opengl book | 04:49 |
| jotham | and my work is buying me it too | 04:50 |
| * JLP has bough himself a OpenGL Bible book but hasn't even had the time to read it :( | 04:51 | |
| CIA-19 | mithro web * r21b107ca12f0 / (5 files in 2 dirs): | 04:55 |
| CIA-19 | Added ability to only put a file up on SourceForge. | 04:55 |
| CIA-19 | Good for the large binary files. | 04:55 |
| JLP | damn this squirelmail, it just ate my reply because i was writing it so long that i was logged out in the meantime | 04:55 |
| llnz | hehe, not fun | 04:55 |
| mithro | JLP: :/ | 04:55 |
| mithro | JLP: re the forums | 04:56 |
| mithro | JLP: they are a really administration nightmare :/ | 04:56 |
| JLP | yeah i better switch to my computer and not use my sisters :) | 04:56 |
| mithro | So i'm wonder if we could co-opt either gmane or nabble | 04:57 |
| llnz | maybe just point people at nabble? | 04:57 |
| llnz | :-) | 04:57 |
| JLP | mithro: yeah that would also be an option | 04:57 |
| JLP | just something that is more web based and more convenient to start using | 04:58 |
| mithro | only it appears that nabble is borked | 04:58 |
| JLP | i don't know why but some people just don't like mailing lists | 04:59 |
| JLP | i prefere them any day over forums | 04:59 |
| llnz | same | 04:59 |
| llnz | or at the very least, an rss feed | 05:00 |
| * llnz wonders if he should start a wiki page "Ideas for Non-programmers" | 05:01 | |
| mithro | I wonder if there is someone I can throw money at to make this problem go away | 05:02 |
| llnz | what problem? | 05:03 |
| JLP | llnz: probably we should create a page named How Can I Help or How Can I get Involved which would list a summary of all different ways to participate | 05:05 |
| JLP | and then this page would link to subpages like Programming, Translation, Packaging, Artwork ... | 05:05 |
| mithro | the Forum problem | 05:05 |
| llnz | JLP: that's a good idea | 05:06 |
| JLP | and Ideas for Programmers would actually be linked from Programming page | 05:07 |
| JLP | this same page could also probably link to Getting Started With Development that already exists but I think it isn't linked ot from anywhere yet | 05:08 |
| JLP | mithro: yeah it would be nice to get someone to redo the webpage including the forums and stuff | 05:09 |
| mithro | well convert the webpage to ikiwiki would be nice | 05:11 |
| mithro | but if someone hosted the m2f forum stuff | 05:15 |
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| llnz | heheheh. LCA08 dev meeting is the 10th hit in google when searching for "mediawiki ikiwiki convert" (without quotes) | 05:43 |
| * JLP tries to write the reply again remembering as much as possible, this time from kmali :) | 06:05 | |
| CIA-19 | mithro web * r64680987500b /downloads.php: Add information on the packages repository. | 06:22 |
| CIA-19 | mithro web * rad6731ce5268 / (5 files in 2 dirs): Added announcement about the 0.3.0 release. | 06:22 |
| mithro | JLP: ping - can you check that? | 06:23 |
| JLP | mithro: checking | 06:31 |
| tpb | New news from http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/rss.php: Primary Thousand Parsec client version 0.3.0 released! | 06:31 |
| JLP | mithro: looks fine, links work, screenshots also | 06:37 |
| mithro | cool | 06:38 |
| JLP | btw i just noticed one little graphical bug, the planet picture is not centered like the others | 06:38 |
| JLP | and i need to poke mandriva people a bit to give me feedback on mandriva packages | 06:40 |
| JLP | i hope that the next version will have at least pywx included by default | 06:41 |
| mithro | welp, now to announce on sf.net | 06:47 |
| mithro | freshmeat | 06:47 |
| mithro | etc | 06:47 |
| JLP | yup let the fun begin :) | 06:48 |
| JLP | i'll try to play on demo1 just in case someone wants to have some fun | 06:48 |
| JLP | btw i think it would be nice to restart the servers now to make afresh universe | 06:49 |
| mithro | JLP: poke llnz | 06:50 |
| JLP | llnz: yeah restart the server so that new players will not come into an old game where they have no chance against my mighty galactic empire :) | 06:51 |
| llnz | sure | 06:53 |
| llnz | demo2 was restarted earlier (about 2 hours ago) | 06:53 |
| llnz | demo1 restarted | 06:54 |
| llnz | llnz-dev2 was restarted about 2 hours ago too | 06:54 |
| JLP | cool | 06:54 |
| JLP | now i'll connect and wait for victims :) | 06:54 |
| JLP | btw was there any discussion about this problem, what to do when a new user comes into a game where other players are already powerfull so the new player is probably going to die soon | 06:55 |
| llnz | nope, but i have some ideas | 06:57 |
| llnz | but i'm going to bed now | 06:57 |
| JLP | ok for some other time then, good night llnz | 06:58 |
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| llnz | later all | 07:01 |
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| mithro | JLP: I think once we have some better rulesets they can start to try to solve this problem | 07:02 |
| mithro | JLP: you should try playing against tpsai-py :P | 07:03 |
| JLP | mithro: i did once, this guy never sleeps | 07:03 |
| mithro | JLP: he has no strategy - just brute force | 07:13 |
| mithro | JLP: but he is broken now :/ | 07:15 |
| mithro | JLP: do you want to start submitting to news sites? | 07:16 |
| mithro | it would be good if you could blog about it too | 07:16 |
| JLP | yeah will start sending the news and will blog about it | 07:20 |
| mithro | JLP: your blog gets more hits then mine does :) | 07:21 |
| JLP | well on more places this 4x game is mentioned the better google thinks of it :) | 07:26 |
| JLP | mithro: do you by any chance have that one paragraph announcment, it looks like i have misplaced it somewhere | 07:30 |
| mithro | It's been a long time since the last release of the primary client for playing Thousand Parsec games. Now, the wait is finally over and it was well worth it. Large parts of the client have drastically changed. Connecting to game servers is simplified. The new user interace enables you to more easily see important information and then more efficiently issue orders. Translation support makes it possible to conqueror the universe in your mother | 07:31 |
| mithro | language. For all the details check out the full release announcement. If you downloaded a previous release and didn't like it, please give this new release a try! | 07:31 |
| mithro | I'm off to bed | 07:31 |
| JLP | ok, thanks and good night | 07:32 |
| mithro | btw, It can't hurt to submit a copy of the announcement to places like slashdot (even though we have pratically zero chance of getting on it) | 07:37 |
| CIA-19 | mithro web * r91fa9165d47b /pipermail.php: Fixed a nasty infinite loop bug. | 07:45 |
| CIA-19 | mithro web * rcd5532690b2f /pipermail.php: Don't error on a 404. | 07:47 |
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| mithro | wow, our web traffic went up quickly | 17:07 |
| mithro | http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=132078&ugn=thousandparsec | 17:08 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1Zkn> (at sourceforge.net) | 17:08 |
| mithro | well off to work | 17:18 |
| mithro | see ya! | 17:18 |
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| CIA-19 | mithro web * r333767b117d3 /gettingstarted.php: Updated the getting started webpage. | 17:53 |
| mithro | JLP: ping? | 18:59 |
| mithro | yay! lets face plant noisly infront of everyone | 19:41 |
| mithro | two legs of my chair broke off | 19:41 |
| mithro | :/ | 19:45 |
| Epyon | nash, mithro, ping? | 19:47 |
| mithro | hey Epyon | 19:47 |
| Epyon | I've | 19:48 |
| Epyon | damn | 19:48 |
| Epyon | I've just got a mail on the tp-devel list Re: Ideas for Summer of code, but can't find the oiriginal message O.o | 19:48 |
| Epyon | Were they crossposted from another list? | 19:48 |
| nash | heyo | 19:48 |
| nash | Epyon: Yes | 19:49 |
| nash | Private email in fact | 19:49 |
| Epyon | Also do you have any information that a new GSoC will actually happen? The GSoC blog has no info :/ | 19:49 |
| Epyon | Ah :/ | 19:49 |
| nash | Epyon: no, which is why the list is not jsut about GSoC, but anything similar, including people who just want a bite size project to dive into | 19:51 |
| nash | Epyon: Should be up on the wiki I believe anyway | 19:51 |
| nash | So feel free to add there | 19:51 |
| Epyon | gonna take a look | 19:52 |
| mithro | Epyon: it's just getting close to the summer of code time of year | 19:52 |
| mithro | so we thought we would get a head start | 19:52 |
| Epyon | Actually my email script pinged me about the word "Epyon" in the newsgroup/mailgroup folder :P | 19:52 |
| mithro | plus as nash says | 19:52 |
| mithro | it's good to have the list anyway | 19:53 |
| Epyon | I hope it will run at all :/ | 19:53 |
| mithro | Epyon: http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2008/Thu/mel8-122.ogg | 19:53 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1VrJ> (at mirror.linux.org.au) | 19:53 |
| mithro | Epyon: have a look at that | 19:53 |
| Epyon | I think niphree send me that one. Is that the speech from google? | 19:54 |
| Epyon | I barely skimmed it through, niphree said there was something interesting there, but I didn't catch it :/ | 19:55 |
| mithro | Epyon: well - she is mentioned in it :P | 19:57 |
| Epyon | O.O | 19:57 |
| mithro | and so is Thousand Parsec | 19:57 |
| Epyon | What timeframe +/-? | 19:57 |
| mithro | it's a talk by Leslie Hawthorn who is part of the OSS office and runs the summer of code | 19:57 |
| mithro | Epyon: it's well worth watching the full thing | 19:57 |
| Epyon | BTW, I skimmed through the wiki but cant find what nash was talking about | 19:58 |
| Epyon | mithro, I have a attention span problem with spending an hour without doing anything constructive :> | 19:59 |
| nash | http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Ideas_for_Programmers | 19:59 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1ZnB> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 19:59 |
| Epyon | Ah, got it | 19:59 |
| mithro | Epyon: http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Ideas_for_Programmers | 19:59 |
| Epyon | BTW, as for GSoC ideas, a web-based client is THE priority | 20:00 |
| Epyon | Believe me, it would increase interest in TP a hundredfold | 20:01 |
| mithro | wikipedia sure gives us a lot of traffic | 20:11 |
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| mithro | Appleman1234! | 20:21 |
| mithro | got a new manual for me? | 20:22 |
| Appleman1234 | not yet | 20:22 |
| Appleman1234 | sorry | 20:23 |
| Appleman1234 | coming | 20:23 |
| Appleman1234 | mithro: I had interruptions invovling the configuration and construction of a super computer cluster | 20:23 |
| * Appleman1234 opens Scribus and feels guility | 20:23 | |
| mithro | Appleman1234: do you have a repository I can checkout? | 20:23 |
| Appleman1234 | mithro: No | 20:23 |
| Appleman1234 | mithro: And I don't currently have way of hosting a git repo, | 20:24 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: send me a SSH key | 20:24 |
| mithro | and I'll set you up one | 20:24 |
| * Appleman1234 wonders if I even have a ssh key | 20:25 | |
| Appleman1234 | I left one around here somewhere | 20:25 |
| mithro | ssh-keygen is a quick way to make a new one | 20:25 |
| Appleman1234 | ok | 20:27 |
| Appleman1234 | mithro: do I send via email ? | 20:27 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: yes please | 20:28 |
| mithro | can you also send me your real name | 20:28 |
| Appleman1234 | Yes, I can but IRC also tells you | 20:28 |
| Appleman1234 | meh | 20:28 |
| Appleman1234 | I would rather setup a repo when I have filled out / updated the sla | 20:28 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: that is okay - atleast I can watch your progress | 20:29 |
| mithro | and possible help out - give hints | 20:29 |
| Appleman1234 | oh ok | 20:29 |
| Appleman1234 | For the image cropping did you want me to remove the window decorations ? or leave them as your screenshots have then remaining ? | 20:31 |
| mithro | removing window decorations is probably okay? what ever looks best | 20:34 |
| mithro | I'm going to lunch | 20:40 |
| mithro | i'll be back in about 1 hour | 20:40 |
| Appleman1234 | ok | 20:41 |
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| mithro | hey bddebian | 21:33 |
| mithro | bddebian: /whois Appleman1234 | 21:34 |
| mithro | opps | 21:34 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: did you end up sending me an email? | 21:34 |
| bddebian | Hello mithro | 21:35 |
| mithro | bddebian: so what state are out packages in? | 21:36 |
| bddebian | Well the hardy ones should be fine. I need to throw up the Debian ones | 21:38 |
| mithro | bddebian: and the gusty ones? | 21:39 |
| bddebian | I could probably just copy the hardy ones over | 21:40 |
| mithro | bddebian: can you email me instructions for uploading the development packages? | 21:45 |
| bddebian | Yeah, sorry | 21:52 |
| mithro | bddebian: no problems | 21:53 |
| * mithro pokes Appleman1234 | 21:53 | |
| bddebian | OK, the Debian repo "should" be set up. | 21:53 |
| Appleman1234 | Not yet | 21:53 |
| bddebian | http://packages.thousandparsec.net/debian main | 21:54 |
| tpb | Title: Index of /debian (at packages.thousandparsec.net) | 21:54 |
| bddebian | Err unstable main | 21:54 |
| bddebian | 'course it won't work without wx2.8 ;-) | 21:55 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: the sooner you do, the sooner I can create you an account | 21:59 |
| mithro | bddebian: how do we setup reprepro to mirror the wx stuff for debian? | 21:59 |
| Appleman1234 | I know | 22:00 |
| mithro | http://wiki.wxpython.org/InstallingOnUbuntuOrDebian | 22:00 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/r_b> (at wiki.wxpython.org) | 22:00 |
| mithro | any chance we could support dapper in the same way? | 22:01 |
| Appleman1234 | which generated file do I send you ? | 22:07 |
| Appleman1234 | id_rsa ? or id_dsa ? | 22:07 |
| mithro | the .pub one of either | 22:09 |
| bddebian | You could probablem use them across feisty/gutsy/hardy. I don't know about dapper | 22:09 |
| Appleman1234 | mithro: ok | 22:10 |
| mithro | bddebian: could you update these instructions /var/www/packages.thousandparsec/README.html ? | 22:18 |
| mithro | probably basing it on this -> http://wiki.wxpython.org/InstallingOnUbuntuOrDebian wouldn't be to bad | 22:19 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/r_b> (at wiki.wxpython.org) | 22:19 |
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| mithro | bddebian: thanks for all this creation of packages | 22:55 |
| bddebian | NP, sorry I haven't been more help, I just haven't been feeling super hot lately so I'm a little run down | 23:07 |
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| mithro | Appleman1234: wb | 23:11 |
| Appleman1234 | same to you | 23:11 |
| mithro | bddebian: well, once we get this sorted out - we need to package the rest of Thousand Parsec :P | 23:11 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: you get my email? | 23:11 |
| Appleman1234 | Yes | 23:11 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: any luck? | 23:13 |
| Appleman1234 | just about to take a missing screenshot and then setup the repo | 23:14 |
| mithro | bddebian: what about your key? | 23:14 |
| Appleman1234 | mithro: luck hasn't nothing to do with it | 23:14 |
| mithro | The packages and the repository meta-data are digitally signed, so you'll need to import the key into your apt's list of trusted keys in order to not get warnings about it. | 23:14 |
| bddebian | Hmm, I should probably stick them up unsigned | 23:19 |
| mithro | bddebian: why? | 23:21 |
| bddebian | I'm not particulalary sure I want the world importing my key. :-) | 23:22 |
| nash | Your public key? | 23:23 |
| bddebian | Yeah, that means I'm permanently tied to you yahoos. ;-P | 23:25 |
| nash | bddebian: Create a subkey ;-) Then revoke it next week | 23:25 |
| bddebian | hehe | 23:26 |
| JLP | morning * | 23:58 |
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