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| mithro | well, I'm heading home | 02:32 |
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| mithro | see ya all in a bit | 02:32 |
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| jotham | i don't believe i am gonna miss lee again | 02:54 |
| jotham | it's like a running comedy | 02:54 |
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| mithro | morning people | 18:44 |
| mithro | hey nash | 18:44 |
| mithro | jotham: ping? | 18:47 |
| jotham | sup | 18:48 |
| mithro | jotham: I saw your post on the pyglet list, WTF was up with the responses? | 18:51 |
| jotham | the one that said 'Yes'? | 18:51 |
| jotham | oh i haven't checked today | 18:52 |
| * jotham reads | 18:53 | |
| jotham | wtf | 18:55 |
| nash | heyo mithro | 18:55 |
| nash | heyo j | 18:55 |
| nash | heyo jotham | 18:55 |
| nash | damn non-unique completions | 18:55 |
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| jotham | hey nash | 18:58 |
| jotham | i wonder if the whole pyglet community is like this | 18:58 |
| mithro | jotham: that is the first time I have ever seen something like that on the list | 18:58 |
| mithro | and there have been some very stupid questions asked | 18:59 |
| jotham | i didn't think my question was very stupid, but clearly i have a lot to learn | 18:59 |
| nash | A less then warm reception I take it? | 18:59 |
| jotham | it's probably someone i've pissed off on IRC exacting revenge | 18:59 |
| jotham | http://groups.google.com/group/pyglet-users/browse_thread/thread/a2ecebae56f0c58/926b3934b363959f | 19:00 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1XLi> (at groups.google.com) | 19:00 |
| peres | jotham: they really have a soft spot for you | 19:01 |
| nash | Ahh... the correct response is then; "Thank you for your response, I have worked out the correct solution. I just installed <another toolkit> and am using that." | 19:02 |
| jotham | heh | 19:02 |
| peres | jotham: i coded some opengl code for a 3d model viewer of mine (using quake 3 models). maybe i can help with basic api, though i know nil about python | 19:03 |
| nash | Actually your response was quite good at the end | 19:03 |
| jotham | naah that wasn't really my issue peres | 19:03 |
| jotham | i wanted to USE pyglets api | 19:03 |
| jotham | rather than just using ogl | 19:03 |
| jotham | that was teh whole point | 19:03 |
| jotham | and i'ev read the pyglet manual cover to cover | 19:03 |
| jotham | but clearly they don't want people to use their api | 19:03 |
| mithro | jotham: none of the people who responded are pyglet developers | 19:04 |
| nash | For the record, it smells like a perfectly fine question... the answer should have been "look that the PygletFooGleDraw class" or just draw | 19:04 |
| jotham | yeah | 19:04 |
| mithro | jotham: I think the next version of pyglet will help with your problem - for the moment I believe you do have to use those gl calls | 19:06 |
| jotham | it must be really hard for new open source projects when they get a bunch of abusive know it alls attached to it | 19:06 |
| jotham | like #pygame =) | 19:06 |
| mithro | jotham: #pygame has more of the "clueless newbies who don't learn" problem | 19:07 |
| jotham | yeah the number of people we get in there that don't know any python | 19:07 |
| jotham | is quite extreme | 19:07 |
| jotham | go to a library channel to learn about the host language | 19:07 |
| nash | #e is famous for the "dumb question" -> "kick & ban" | 19:08 |
| jotham | oh well, hopefully battleviewer will be something nice for them to show on their site page | 19:09 |
| nash | jotham: indeed | 19:10 |
| nash | With a link thanking the two posters for their help ;-) | 19:10 |
| jotham | haha | 19:10 |
| mithro | I think they might actually not understand the sarcasm in that | 19:11 |
| mithro | jotham: http://www.partiallydisassembled.net/blog/?item=162 | 19:12 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1XLv> (at www.partiallydisassembled.net) | 19:12 |
| jotham | whoa | 19:12 |
| mithro | that is one of the pyglet developers | 19:14 |
| jotham | i've had pretty positive experiences with the pyglet developers | 19:14 |
| jotham | mind you that was just finding and fixing a bug | 19:14 |
| jotham | i guess people are positive about that kind of thing | 19:14 |
| jotham | rather than questions | 19:14 |
| mithro | jotham: I think it's just a select few people on that list | 19:16 |
| jotham | http://lostgarden.com/ | 19:19 |
| tpb | Title: Lost Garden (at lostgarden.com) | 19:19 |
| jotham | that's really neat | 19:19 |
| jotham | i want to have a play with that now | 19:23 |
| jotham | :p | 19:23 |
| jotham | i missed seeing lee yesterday | 19:23 |
| jotham | we had a delivery at 10am today | 19:23 |
| jotham | i am exhausted | 19:23 |
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| mithro | hey Appleman1234 | 19:42 |
| mithro | got any positive news for me? | 19:42 |
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| Appleman1234 | mithro: not yet, but by the end of today I will | 19:50 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: okay cool | 19:50 |
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| Appleman1234 | mithro: remainder of screenshots in published manual taken | 23:22 |
| Appleman1234 | now taking some screenshots to replace ones only in manual source | 23:22 |
| Appleman1234 | any particular images you wanted trimmed or just for me to go through all of them and trim them ? | 23:23 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: well I think you need to trim the windows decorations | 23:31 |
| mithro | (on the panel bits) | 23:32 |
| mithro | but what ever looks good | 23:33 |
| mithro | where you able to load the scribus file? | 23:36 |
| Appleman1234 | I will trim the panel pits | 23:40 |
| Appleman1234 | bits* | 23:40 |
| Appleman1234 | I can load the old scribus file | 23:40 |
| Appleman1234 | so I will trim the screenshots | 23:40 |
| Appleman1234 | and then update them | 23:40 |
| Appleman1234 | and add some instructions on issuing orders to a planet to create a fleet | 23:41 |
| Appleman1234 | and issuing orders to a fleet | 23:41 |
| mithro | okay cool | 23:41 |
| mithro | probably a page with "Keyboard shortcuts" would be good too | 23:41 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: do you want to store this in a seperate git repository? | 23:42 |
| mithro | Appleman1234: then I can clone and give you hints | 23:42 |
| mithro | would be good if we had a table of contents | 23:43 |
| mithro | etc | 23:43 |
| Appleman1234 | I can create hotkeys page as well | 23:44 |
| Appleman1234 | I don't mind storing either in the dev git repository for tp | 23:45 |
| Appleman1234 | or making a different git repo | 23:45 |
| Appleman1234 | but I would like to finish a significant portion of work on it when I should have done by end of today before doing either | 23:45 |
| mithro | if you just create a seperate git repository then I can figure out where I'm going to put it at a later date | 23:47 |
| mithro | greywhind_: ping? | 23:49 |
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| greywhind | mithro: pong | 23:49 |
| greywhind | mithro: i added the "step into" button and did some work on the panelOrder layout issue | 23:49 |
| mithro | hey greywhind | 23:50 |
| mithro | greywhind: your binary has your forward/back buttons in it | 23:50 |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... that's odd | 23:50 |
| mithro | greywhind: atleast that was a friend found | 23:50 |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... so it does... | 23:52 |
| mithro | ohloh is having a crap with the branch reorgs | 23:57 |
| greywhind | mithro: yep - forgot to cg-reset... | 23:58 |
| greywhind | after the cg-admin-uncommits | 23:58 |
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