Thursday, 2008-01-31

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mithroAppleman1234: ping?00:01
mithrobddebian: any comments yet?00:02
bddebianNope :-(00:11
mithrookay I'll poke people again00:11
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mithrohey people06:04
mithroJLP: ping?06:08
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mithrohey peres07:31
pereshi mithro07:31
peresmithro: so i found this list of stars names we could use to build planet names07:32
mithrooh cool07:32
peresi just need to re-find it on my hard disk :P07:32
peresmithro: i have a openoffice spreadsheet with preliminary data, do you want to take a look?07:36
mithroperes: not just at this very second07:36
mithroabout to go to the land of lala07:36
pereslala?07:36
mithrosleeply bys :)07:36
peresoh i see07:37
peresjust incidentally, how much is 3000 AUD ?07:37
mithroAustralian Dollars?07:38
peresyes07:38
mithroabout $2500 USD?07:38
peressorry, ill-formulated question07:39
peresis that a worth salary?07:39
peres(for a month)07:39
mithrofor?07:47
CIA-12mithro tpclient-pywx-stable * r50fbcd560104 /requirements.py: Fixed the cmp function.07:49
mithroperes: in some contexts that would be really good07:57
mithroin other contexts it would really suck07:57
mithroI wouldn't want to support a family on that in Sydney07:57
peresmithro: it's a proposal my brother got for a job in melbourne08:00
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JLPmithro: ahoy18:37
mithrohey JLP18:37
mithroany comments on the release notes before I send it out?18:37
JLPis the short version Ok or is it too short18:37
JLPmithro: the last one I got was just fine, the long one, during work i remembered another new feature that is missing, but now i can't remember which one was it18:38
JLPlet me start the client again, maybe i remember18:39
JLPmithro: oh yeah, now i remembered, the avahi mDNS support is new right? the feature that can automatically download the list of servers18:40
mithroyeah18:40
JLPaha so i think this should also be added to the list of cool new things18:41
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JLPdamn TP looks nice on my sister's 21" lcd :)18:52
JLPmithro: oh yeah one small thing i would do: instead of "and hated it" I would say it something like "and didn't like it"18:56
mithrookay18:57
mithrohe he18:57
JLPmithro: and the short version of the announcement, is it ok?18:59
mithroJLP: which short version?19:00
JLPmithro: i sent it by mail, for SF  and other news articles maybe19:00
mithroJLP: where did you send it?19:01
mithroI didn't get a copy?19:01
JLPmithro@mithis...19:01
mithrohrm...19:01
mithrocan you try again?19:01
JLPmithro: ok will resend19:01
mithroyou may have gotten greylisted19:01
JLPyeah or our isp has problems, as usually the case is19:02
mithroI don't want to put out the announcement until we have windows and mac19:02
JLPmithro: sent19:06
JLPmithro: btw are there any videos from LCA this year19:07
mithroyes19:07
mithrothey are already appearing19:07
JLPmithro: oh cool so it is in processing19:07
mithrohttp://linux.conf.au/programme/wednesday19:07
tpbTitle: Programme // Wednesday - linux.conf.au 2008 | 28 Jan - 2 Feb | LCA2008 in MEL8OURNE (at linux.conf.au)19:07
mithroJLP: looks okay19:10
mithroJLP: can you get to http://169.222.10.205/tim/scratchpad/19:12
tpbTitle: Index of /tim/scratchpad (at 169.222.10.205)19:12
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mithrohey greywhind19:13
mithrohow has everything been going?19:13
greywhindhey mithro19:13
greywhindmithro: did you see my patch cleaning up IdleFinder a bit?19:13
mithroI'm about to move rooms19:13
JLPmithro: yup, i'm there19:13
mithrogreywhind: yeah19:13
greywhindother than that, I haven't been sure what to do19:13
mithrocan you check the release bits there?19:13
greywhindmithro: hmm?19:14
mithrogreywhind: I would love you to work on the "Next Object" "Previous Object" stuff19:14
mithrogreywhind: was talking to JLP19:14
greywhindmithro: oh. ok. yeah - i'll work on the Next/Previous object buttons. Where do you want them?19:14
mithrogreywhind: well, there are a number of things related19:16
mithrogreywhind: the actually code should be part of the state tracker stuff19:16
mithrothere are things19:16
greywhindmithro: can you give me a more detailed description of what you want?19:16
mithrolike "Next Object", "Previous Object", "Next object in system", "Previous object in system"19:16
mithrowhich should all have keyboard shortcuts19:17
mithroas well as buttons somewhere19:17
mithromoving conference rooms will be back in 519:17
greywhindmithro: k19:17
mithroI'm back19:23
greywhindmithro: so you suggest that in StateTracker, I put some methods to go to next object, previous object, etc., then put buttons for them on either the starmap panel or the systems panel?19:24
mithrogreywhind: yeah something like that19:29
greywhindmithro: ok19:29
greywhindmithro: for the "next/previous object" - do you want it to step over or into children?19:30
mithrogreywhind: find out what is the best :)19:31
mithroJLP: ping?19:34
mithrogreywhind: can you check the packages on http://169.222.10.205/tim/scratchpad/ and see if they work for you?19:34
tpbTitle: Index of /tim/scratchpad (at 169.222.10.205)19:34
greywhindmithro: will do19:35
greywhindmithro: err... which one? the entire directory or a specific file in it?19:35
mithrothe various tar.bz2?19:35
greywhindmithro: k19:35
mithrohold on - just rebuilding them19:37
greywhindmithro: inplace works19:37
mithrogreywhind: okay19:40
greywhindmithro: not sure what to do to get client and netlib to be found on the non-inplace19:41
mithrogreywhind: okay19:41
mithroJLP: ping?19:50
JLPmithro: pong19:52
mithroJLP: so where are we at?19:52
mithrogreywhind: any luck finding a Mac OS 10.3.9 computer?19:53
greywhindmithro; well, I have one...19:53
JLPmithro: tpclient-pywx-0.3.0.tar.bz2 extracted just fine19:53
mithrogreywhind: oh cool - is it PPC or Intel?19:54
greywhindmithro: PPC19:54
mithrogreywhind: can you try building the dmg on it then?19:55
greywhindmithro: hmm... that would require installing all the dependencies, etc.19:55
mithroI would love to have a mac .dmg up ASAP19:55
mithrogreywhind: yeah :(19:56
greywhindmithro: i can build the 10.4 one19:56
mithroif you build on 10.3.9 it will work on 10.4 and 10.519:56
JLPmithro: inplace also works, including the translation19:56
mithroJLP: can you check it's not because you have added something to /usr/share stuff?19:57
JLPmithro: i'm on sister's computer where i have just freshly installed Mandriva 2008 Spring19:57
mithroJLP: oh, cool19:58
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mithroJLP: can you check again in a moment?20:03
mithroyou can use the "python-cleanup.py" script to remove the python libraries20:03
JLPmithro: is now the right moment?20:11
mithronot yet20:11
mithroi'm trying to get tpclient-pywx installing working20:12
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Appleman1234Hi21:04
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mithrohey people21:26
mithrosorry about disappearing earlier21:26
mithrohad to catch up with a person21:26
Appleman1234Hi21:34
Appleman1234mithro: sorry for delay but today is full steam ahead21:34
mithrocool21:35
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Appleman1234What happened to account creation in the update or do I just remove that section of the manual ?21:40
mithroAppleman1234: the account creation is in the "server browser" (ie the FIND) button21:44
Appleman1234ok21:44
Appleman1234I will take screenshots of it there21:45
Appleman1234currently I am just updating all the current screenshots, then I will update the text that supports them21:45
Appleman1234and then I may refactor or add new content to the manual21:45
mithroyes21:46
CIA-12mithro scratchpad * r96ade6713948 /python-cleanup.py: Clean up more things.21:47
CIA-12mithro scratchpad * r762f657ec0b3 /makeclientrelease.sh: Fix the release script for the git repositories.21:47
CIA-12mithro tpclient-pywx-stable * r37f7c549af90 /version.py: Also catch the NameError exception in this.21:47
CIA-12mithro tpclient-pywx-stable * r16588d21507b /setup.py: Fix the setup when the client is already installed.21:47
CIA-12mithro tpclient-pywx-stable * rad221ea975b5 /windows/ (main/panelStarMap.py xrc/panelStarMap.xrc): Look for the mousemode graphics in the graphicsdir.21:47
CIA-12mithro tpclient-pywx-stable * r7805a33de9cb /windows/winSplash.py: Warn if the splash movie can't be found.21:47
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Appleman1234the build fleet option that was previous used isn't avaliable22:19
Appleman1234do I take screenshots of split fleet instead ?22:20
Appleman1234is the server down for anyone else ?22:25
Appleman1234nevermind about the build fleet thing22:26
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mithrohey22:41
mithroAppleman1234: how is it going? got a preview render?22:42
Appleman1234server is down , I am halfway through the screenshot taking22:42
CIA-12mithro web * r5157b371ef62 /downloads/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Added new release of tpclient-pywx (0.3.0) and the associated libraries.22:42
Appleman1234I will try to reconnect and take the rest of the screenshots in a few minutes22:43
Appleman1234why is the sla 38 pages long and has crap after the first 10 pages or so ?22:43
Appleman1234brb22:44
Appleman1234getting food22:44
mithroAppleman1234: screenshots which never had explaination with them22:44
mithroIE how to submit move/build orders22:44
Appleman1234oh ok22:47
Appleman1234the last 15 or so pages were blank or had bits of text and directory paths scattered everywhere22:47
Appleman1234got food22:47
mithrookay22:47
mithroAppleman1234: yeah the manual was a WIP22:47
Appleman1234going to try reconnecting and getting the rest of the new screenshots22:48
mithroAppleman1234: okay22:48
Appleman1234mithro:nice interview btw :)22:50
mithroAppleman1234: ?22:50
Appleman1234mithro: The interview online by itweek or something like that22:51
mithrooh, that is old now :)22:51
Appleman1234lol22:51
Appleman1234The client could not connect to the host.22:54
Appleman1234This could be because the server is down or you mistyped the server address.22:54
Appleman1234is what I get when trying to connect22:54
mithrohrm...22:55
mithrohttp://metaserver.thousandparsec.net/ ?22:55
tpbTitle: Thousand Parsec : Metaserver Server Listing (at metaserver.thousandparsec.net)22:55
mithroI can connect to demo122:55
Appleman1234ok22:55
Appleman1234will use that22:56
Appleman1234was using demo222:56
Appleman1234do I have to move my account over ?22:56
Appleman1234it just gives me more network errors about connecting to wrong server or password or something23:00
Appleman1234any idea when demo2 will be back online ?23:00
mithroyou can create a new account on demo123:01
Appleman1234but not with details ....23:01
mithrohrm?23:01
mithroAppleman1234: I need a little more information in problem reports23:02
Appleman1234ok23:02
Appleman1234The client connected to the host but could not login because the username of password was incorrect.23:02
Appleman1234This could be because you are connecting to the wrong server or mistyped the username or password.23:02
mithroAppleman1234: no, I need to know where are you connecting too - how you are trying to connect23:03
Appleman1234tp://demo1.thousandparsec.net:692323:05
Appleman1234in the  tp connect to server window23:05
mithroand you went to the find and created a new account?23:05
Appleman1234with my login and password23:05
Appleman1234Yes23:05
mithroand what did it say?23:05
mithrowhen you tried to create the account23:05
mithrobe back in 523:06
Appleman1234account creation error23:06
Appleman1234bad username or password23:06
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