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| llnz | nope, they are ones that you didn't tell tailor how to handle | 00:11 |
| mithro | :/ | 00:32 |
| mithro | llnz: are they mostly by thorpe? | 00:33 |
| mithro | or is it just random people? | 00:34 |
| llnz | thorpe and a few others | 00:42 |
| mithro | if we wanted to be really evil we could go back an fix them :P | 00:50 |
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| JLP | ahoy all | 01:58 |
| mithro | how goes your progress? | 01:58 |
| JLP | mithro: just got up, have to go to lectures and after i come back i'll start | 02:02 |
| mithro | JLP: slacker :P | 02:02 |
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| JLP | mithro: yeah, uni realy gets in the way too often :) | 02:03 |
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| JLP | see you in about 5 hours when i get back | 02:17 |
| mithro | okay | 02:20 |
| mithro | nash: sometime in the near future I could use critisicim of tpclient-pywx and bug tracking | 02:21 |
| nash | Okay | 02:23 |
| nash | Well the soruce forge bug tracking is the proverbial fish in barrel ;-) | 02:24 |
| mithro | I should start adding all the known problems | 02:25 |
| mithro | I want to try and get into a "preparing for a release" mode soon | 02:25 |
| nash | Any rough time frame? | 02:26 |
| mithro | I'm hoping to do RC's in about 6 weeks | 02:27 |
| mithro | so probably looking at a final 0.3.0 release in about 12 weeks | 02:27 |
| mithro | but that is all contingent on me getting my butt together | 02:28 |
| mithro | and greywhind finishing his stuff too | 02:28 |
| mithro | I would like to have proper games being able to be played by LCA next year | 02:30 |
| mithro | which means that there will be a bunch of server work needed too | 02:30 |
| mithro | but the quick waypoint mode is the last major feature left to be added | 02:31 |
| nash | Sounds cool | 02:36 |
| mithro | nash: should finally make moving things painless | 02:37 |
| nash | Indeed | 02:37 |
| mithro | then you can challenge me to a game of RFTS and we can watch tpserver-cpp crash ;) | 03:02 |
| nash | hheh | 03:17 |
| * mithro waits for llnz to complain | 03:20 | |
| llnz | i didn't write RFTS | 03:20 |
| llnz | can't blame me for all it's bugs | 03:20 |
| mithro | hrm now greywhind today | 03:21 |
| mithro | s/now/no | 03:21 |
| mithro | llnz: we can blame you for writing it in C++ ;) | 03:21 |
| mithro | so what you been up to today llnz ? | 03:21 |
| mithro | nash: so you going to do some more galaxie work in the near future? | 03:22 |
| llnz | having a quiet day at home | 03:22 |
| mithro | llnz: no tpserver-cpp work? | 03:23 |
| llnz | nope, sorry | 03:23 |
| nash | mithro: Quite possible | 03:33 |
| mithro | nash: that would be cool - we need some more green in our gitweb | 03:34 |
| nash | heh | 03:34 |
| mithro | go green! | 03:47 |
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| nash | anywya - I'm off home | 04:11 |
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| mithro | wb llnz | 04:30 |
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| llnz | later all | 05:33 |
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| niphree | hello | 07:06 |
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| JLP | ahoy all | 08:30 |
| JLP | niphree: hi | 08:33 |
| JLP | niphree: i think mithro was looking for you earlier | 08:33 |
| niphree | JLP: hi | 08:34 |
| niphree | JLP: I know | 08:34 |
| niphree | JLP: maybe he will be later today | 08:34 |
| JLP | niphree: i guess he will be, i think it is about 22:10 now where he lives | 08:36 |
| niphree | JLP: ...timozones :] | 08:38 |
| JLP | niphree: yeah, and on top of that time shifting in summer :) | 08:41 |
| niphree | JLP: time shifting ? | 08:47 |
| JLP | niphree: yeah, one hour change to summer time, and then back to normal time | 08:47 |
| niphree | JLP: aa.. ok :P now I remmember :P | 08:48 |
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| mithro | niphree! | 09:17 |
| mithro | ~seen niphree | 09:17 |
| tpb | mithro: niphree was last seen in #tp 29 minutes and 3 seconds ago: <niphree> JLP: aa.. ok :P now I remmember :P | 09:17 |
| mithro | hrm, what happen to the logs in the topic | 09:17 |
| niphree | mithro: hi! :] | 09:21 |
| mithro | long time no see! | 09:21 |
| mithro | last time I checked you where up to something like 6 weeks missing :/ | 09:21 |
| niphree | yeah, I know :/ | 09:21 |
| mithro | ahh well, the important thing is that your back now | 09:22 |
| mithro | JLP: how goes everything? | 09:22 |
| mithro | out of interest have you had any contact with Epyon recently - he has kind of disappeared too | 09:23 |
| mithro | ~seen Epyon | 09:23 |
| tpb | mithro: Epyon was last seen in #tp 4 weeks, 6 days, 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <Epyon> Use FreePascal xP | 09:23 |
| JLP | mithro: i'm now writing the messages model, well mostly copying stuff from KDE cliento to Qtopia client and throwing away KDE-specific stuff | 09:26 |
| mithro | okay cool, don't forget to provide a large number of screenshots | 09:27 |
| JLP | mithro: will do | 09:28 |
| mithro | JLP: thanks | 09:28 |
| JLP | mithro: but views are for after the models are finished, except the start screen of the game and connection screen | 09:30 |
| mithro | okay | 09:30 |
| mithro | something which is half usable is better then something which has all the models but no UI in my opinion | 09:31 |
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| niphree | I'll be back in 2-3 hours | 09:47 |
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| mithro | well I'm off to bed | 10:45 |
| mithro | gnight | 10:45 |
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| mithro | yay! our channel is a little less empty today | 18:30 |
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| mithro | monring people | 19:53 |
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| tpb | mithro: Epyon was last seen in #tp 4 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 9 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <Epyon> Use FreePascal xP | 19:53 |
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| mithro | ~seen jotham | 20:14 |
| tpb | mithro: jotham was last seen in #tp 3 days, 23 hours, 48 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <jotham> so i avoid talking to her pretty much because of things like this | 20:14 |
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| tpb | mithro: guitsaru was last seen in #tp 5 weeks, 5 days, 12 hours, 6 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <guitsaru> I've got to go to class now though | 20:35 |
| mithro | :/ | 20:35 |
| mithro | that is one long class | 20:35 |
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| tpb | mithro: peres was last seen in #tp 6 weeks, 0 days, 14 hours, 25 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <peres> anyway, knowing you think i'm going down the right way is important :) | 20:46 |
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| niphree | mithro: I tell epyon that you was '~seen' for him, he may show up here soon (tomorrow maybe) | 21:01 |
| mithro | niphree: no hurry | 21:02 |
| mithro | hey greywhind | 21:02 |
| greywhind | hey | 21:02 |
| mithro | niphree: so you think you are going to have some time to finish up the metaserver changes | 21:02 |
| mithro | greywhind: I sent off the evaluation yesterday | 21:02 |
| greywhind | mithro: i saw your e-mail | 21:02 |
| mithro | okay cool | 21:02 |
| niphree | mithro: I just back from party, I realy want remember anything tomorrow :D | 21:03 |
| mithro | niphree: s/want/wont/ ? :P | 21:03 |
| niphree | mithro: not now :P | 21:03 |
| mithro | greywhind: you should checkout the code I committed over the weekend - it does the same panel addition/removal that you need | 21:03 |
| greywhind | mithro: alright. i'll take a look. | 21:04 |
| niphree | good night all | 21:04 |
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| mithro | greywhind: so how much time will you have to work on tp over the next couple of months? | 21:18 |
| mithro | greywhind: I would like to check that the new starmap changes also work on Mac OS X | 21:18 |
| greywhind | mithro: i'm trying to do 5 hours a week. if you need me to do more, i can try, but i have some college application stuff at least this week that can't wait | 21:19 |
| mithro | the reason I ask is that I would like to try and get a release of the dev client done soon (Ie in 2-3 months) | 21:22 |
| mithro | but there is still quite a large amount of work to do | 21:22 |
| greywhind | mithro: i want to do all i can. hopefully nothing else will take me as long as the design window... | 21:23 |
| mithro | greywhind: how much should you be doing? (to fulfil the uni's requirements) 1 day equivalent? (which is closer to 8 hours?) | 21:23 |
| mithro | greywhind: well, one good thing you could start doing is to log bug reports for anything you find which isn't working | 21:24 |
| greywhind | mithro: my requirements are 40-45 hours per quarter of the year (although some quarters it's 35-40). about 5 hours per week, maybe a little less, fulfills those. | 21:24 |
| mithro | greywhind: okay | 21:25 |
| greywhind | since there are 9-10 weeks per quarter | 21:25 |
| greywhind | mithro: i'm really hoping that the 2nd half of the year i'll be able to do more than 5 hours, since i won't have college applications | 21:25 |
| mithro | that would be cool | 21:26 |
| greywhind | and one of my classes, which takes me an hour or more a day, will have ended. | 21:26 |
| mithro | that would be handy | 21:28 |
| mithro | I think the client is finally getting to a stage where it is fairly usable | 21:30 |
| mithro | it would be good if we could actually get some players :) | 21:30 |
| mithro | greywhind: btw, what would you like to actually be doing? | 21:31 |
| mithro | btw, 2nd half of the year == 1st half of next year? | 21:32 |
| greywhind | mithro: i'm interested in that overlay idea, for one | 21:32 |
| mithro | greywhind: had a chance to merge in the new starmap changes? you'll see how the overlays are working | 21:32 |
| greywhind | mithro: i think i'll do that today. | 21:33 |
| mithro | oky | 21:33 |
| mithro | the plan is to have a decent playable game ready for LCA next year | 21:34 |
| mithro | (which is in Janurary) | 21:34 |
| greywhind | mithro: what's LCA? | 21:34 |
| mithro | Linux.conf.au | 21:34 |
| greywhind | mithro: ah. | 21:34 |
| mithro | I'm running the Gaming Miniconf there - so I want to pimp Thousand Parsec more | 21:36 |
| mithro | which is a lot easier with a nice client :) | 21:36 |
| mithro | do you think you would have time on the weekend to actually play a game or two on RFTS (in a couple of weeks?) | 21:37 |
| Epyon | mithro ;] | 21:39 |
| mithro | hey Epyon | 21:39 |
| mithro | so how about some more artwork? :P | 21:39 |
| Epyon | Good idea, I might be able to do some 3d work now | 21:39 |
| Epyon | I have some inclination because of the 3ds max course I'm running xP | 21:40 |
| Epyon | But not today -- today I don't feel sober enough to touch the mouse xP | 21:40 |
| mithro | bah, you should be able to do artwork without using the mouse ;) | 21:41 |
| Epyon | That would be even a greater disaster xP | 21:41 |
| * Epyon tries to stop the walls of the house from moving. | 21:41 | |
| mithro | Epyon: so you going to join in for a game of RFTS in the near future? | 21:42 |
| * Epyon fails. | 21:42 | |
| * mithro is determined to make it finally happen | 21:42 | |
| Epyon | Why not, but ask me about that tommorow -- I won't remember it if I promise it today :P | 21:43 |
| mithro | Epyon: we have logs for that :) | 21:43 |
| Epyon | lol xP | 21:44 |
| Epyon | I'd need to remember to check them though xP | 21:44 |
| mithro | don't worry if you say something important I'll make sure you remeber it | 21:44 |
| * mithro gets out the tattooing flying ninja monkeys | 21:45 | |
| * Epyon feels threateeanedd.... errr threatened, ..... errrr, treatened.... errr..... whatever | 21:48 | |
| Epyon | Who the F-word invented such hard-to-type english words anyway -_- | 21:49 |
| greywhind | mithro: yeah, i'll play a game of RFTS sometime. (sorry, missed the question) | 22:00 |
| mithro | Epyon: the french probably | 22:00 |
| mithro | greywhind: cool | 22:00 |
| mithro | I'll send an email to the list | 22:00 |
| mithro | just pending the waypoint mode | 22:01 |
| mithro | (in tpclient-pywx) | 22:01 |
| greywhind | mithro: alright. i'm guessing... a sunday would be best for me. | 22:01 |
| mithro | well we will probably start with something like 5-10 minutes turns and then got to 1 turn a day if everything goes well | 22:01 |
| greywhind | mithro: i'll have to learn the ruleset :P | 22:02 |
| mithro | greywhind: I've just read the RFTS manual and that is it | 22:02 |
| mithro | never played a game myself | 22:02 |
| mithro | so nash will kick our arses | 22:02 |
| greywhind | mithro: heh | 22:02 |
| nash | Oh... rfts? | 22:03 |
| nash | When? | 22:03 |
| mithro | nash: probably not this weekend, the weekend after? | 22:04 |
| nash | Sweet | 22:06 |
| * nash is in | 22:06 | |
| mithro | I just need to add the waypoint support then we can play | 22:16 |
| CIA-10 | mithro libtpproto-py * r674b4a479832 /tp/netlib/version.py: Small patch to allow version to be run with no arguments. | 22:19 |
| CIA-10 | jezuch tpclient-pywx-development * r051c1f8bdd3d / (debian/rules setup.py): Debian package: fix the /usr/bin/tpclient-pywx symlink by changing the meaning of --prefix and adding --temp options to setup.py | 22:19 |
| CIA-10 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r3aa7988a0f68 / (setup.py version.py): | 22:19 |
| CIA-10 | Fixed up the temp support (so that --temp doesn't need to be specified). | 22:19 |
| CIA-10 | Added version fixing support (similar to that found in libtp*-py). | 22:19 |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... should i be doing the cg-branch-chg origin back to development before git-fetch and then git-rebase origin? | 22:21 |
| mithro | greywhind: not sure, you could just do the following | 22:21 |
| mithro | cg-branch-add development git+ssh://<rest here> | 22:22 |
| mithro | cg-fetch development | 22:22 |
| mithro | cg-merge development | 22:22 |
| mithro | or something | 22:22 |
| greywhind | mithro: the "or something" worries me a bit :P | 22:22 |
| mithro | he he | 22:23 |
| mithro | I have not tried that | 22:23 |
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| mithro | I cherry pick patchs from stable using a similar method | 22:23 |
| mithro | a git-rebase is probably not going to work as incoming already has your changes | 22:24 |
| greywhind | mithro: so cg-merge will do the same? | 22:24 |
| mithro | almost it will create a merge commit | 22:25 |
| greywhind | it will add the patches in the correct order, with my un-pushed patch on top of everything? | 22:25 |
| mithro | I think it will be fine | 22:25 |
| mithro | when you push we will get a merge commit and your un-pushed patch | 22:25 |
| greywhind | mithro: alright. if you don't mind the merge commit, i'll try that | 22:26 |
| mithro | greywhind: nah, it's fine | 22:26 |
| greywhind | mithro: seems to have worked correctly | 22:26 |
| mithro | greywhind: yay! | 22:26 |
| greywhind | mithro: it's funny to see a 23rd October commit when it's still the 22nd here :P | 22:27 |
| mithro | the USA is behind most of the world | 22:28 |
| greywhind | mithro: true | 22:28 |
| mithro | in multiple ways ;) | 22:28 |
| greywhind | mithro: also true :P | 22:28 |
| mithro | anyway, off to lunch | 22:30 |
| mithro | bblr | 22:30 |
| greywhind | mithro: have a nice lunch | 22:31 |
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| greywhind | mithro: when you get back, there seems to be a very minor bug in the starmap display | 23:05 |
| mithro | greywhind: pong! | 23:28 |
| mithro | greywhind: got a screenshot? | 23:28 |
| greywhind | mithro: when i mouse over an object, the tooltip appears | 23:29 |
| greywhind | but the starmap seems to grab focus from the main window | 23:29 |
| greywhind | until i either click the starmap again or mouse over the tooltip to make it disappear | 23:29 |
| mithro | hrm.. this is MacOS X right? | 23:29 |
| greywhind | mithro: yes | 23:30 |
| mithro | did this occur before? | 23:30 |
| greywhind | mithro: i'm pretty sure it didn't | 23:30 |
| greywhind | also, and this may be related | 23:30 |
| mithro | if you get a chance can you back off a couple of patches and see if it goes away? | 23:30 |
| greywhind | i had to change line 38 on panelStarMap.py to get it to run | 23:30 |
| greywhind | from: self.MouseModePopup = wx.PopupWindow(self) | 23:31 |
| greywhind | to self.MouseModePopup = wx.PopupWindow(self, wx.BORDER_NONE) | 23:31 |
| greywhind | mithro: another question: I can't seem to get all the columns of the design window to resize evenly. One always does all the resizing and the others stay a fixed size. | 23:33 |
| mithro | this using a wx.FlexGridSizer? | 23:33 |
| greywhind | mithro: yeah, at the very top | 23:33 |
| mithro | and you have set each column as growable | 23:33 |
| greywhind | if i do that, only the left column ever grows/shrinks | 23:33 |
| mithro | and then test the objects in them with a wx.GROW style and a proportion of greater then 0 | 23:33 |
| greywhind | aha... proportion | 23:34 |
| mithro | greywhind: that MouseModePopup is unrelated to the other pop-up | 23:34 |
| greywhind | mithro: ok, but it still threw an error unless i changed that line | 23:35 |
| mithro | okay | 23:35 |
| mithro | can you get me a copy of the error? | 23:35 |
| mithro | someone needs to buy me a mac mini | 23:35 |
| greywhind | mithro: will do (the error, not the mac mini :P) | 23:36 |
| mithro | the cheapest mac mini I can get is $849 | 23:36 |
| greywhind | mithro: really? that's more than in the US. | 23:36 |
| greywhind | error: | 23:37 |
| greywhind | http://rafb.net/p/UGTZWi42.html (63 lines) | 23:37 |
| tpb | Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net) | 23:37 |
| mithro | greywhind: okay change the following | 23:38 |
| mithro | line 629 in ./extra/__init__.py should read | 23:38 |
| mithro | def __init__(self, parent, style=None): | 23:38 |
| greywhind | mithro: was that wrong in the repository or did i somehow not get all the changes? | 23:40 |
| mithro | if that works I'll commit it | 23:40 |
| mithro | greywhind: sorry, you need to change it too that | 23:40 |
| greywhind | mithro: still getting the error | 23:41 |
| mithro | oh? | 23:41 |
| greywhind | nm | 23:41 |
| mithro | it works? | 23:42 |
| greywhind | opened the wrong file | 23:42 |
| greywhind | yes, it works | 23:42 |
| mithro | still the same problem with the focus however? | 23:43 |
| greywhind | mithro: checking | 23:43 |
| greywhind | mithro: yes | 23:43 |
| mithro | okay | 23:43 |
| mithro | can you create a copy of your repository and back off to | 23:44 |
| mithro | 1c9519b364b059c2edd4456ef0ca53a0a26b5eff | 23:44 |
| mithro | and then see if you still have the same problem? | 23:45 |
| greywhind | mithro: maybe tomorrow, is that alright? | 23:46 |
| mithro | greywhind: okay | 23:46 |
| mithro | ug, I should have gotten a mini when I was in the US | 23:48 |
| greywhind | mithro: yeah, probably... much less expensive | 23:48 |
| mithro | only about $600 AUD | 23:48 |
| * mithro beats Apple Australia with a big stick | 23:49 | |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... the proportion only seems to be affecting vertical resize? | 23:51 |
| mithro | hrm.... | 23:51 |
| mithro | I would have to look at it to see what was going on | 23:51 |
| greywhind | mithro: want me to commit and push? | 23:52 |
| mithro | btw, where are you looking at this in? | 23:52 |
| mithro | you know about XRCed's F5? | 23:52 |
| greywhind | mithro: yes, but i hate having to change the OrderedTreeCtrls to TreeCtrls | 23:52 |
| greywhind | i'm just running the application | 23:53 |
| mithro | XRCed is much easier to find out what the problem is | 23:53 |
| greywhind | mithro: well, i'll try that i guess. | 23:53 |
| mithro | if you click on a control in the tree while the pop-up is up it will show a red outline around it | 23:54 |
| greywhind | mithro: yeah, i know | 23:54 |
| mithro | I would just write a small sh script which looked something like | 23:54 |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... if i just view the middle panel alone, it resizes | 23:56 |
| greywhind | but if i use the entire window, only the left panel resizes | 23:56 |
| mithro | okay - my guess is that you are missing expand on something | 23:57 |
| mithro | (or proportion) | 23:57 |
| greywhind | mithro: hmm... what might it be? | 23:57 |
| mithro | anyway I have to go to a meeting | 23:57 |
| greywhind | mithro: alright. | 23:58 |
| greywhind | thanks. | 23:58 |
| mithro | if you push the stuff I will look at it later tonight | 23:58 |
| greywhind | k, cool | 23:58 |
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