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| mithro | wow, it is really empty in here today | 00:51 |
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| mithro | wonder where everyone is | 00:52 |
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| mithro | very quiet in here | 02:22 |
| CIA-17 | mithro web * ra2a4ae591546 /news/2007-10-20-1302.news: Fixed a non-escaped & | 04:19 |
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| JLP | ahoy all | 06:36 |
| mithro | hey JLP | 06:37 |
| mithro | it has been very empty in here all day :/ | 06:37 |
| mithro | we where down to 6 people earlier | 06:37 |
| JLP | yeah i've noticed, just a couple of days ago there were about 12-14 | 06:39 |
| mithro | it seems to drop off over the weekends for some unknown reason | 06:39 |
| mithro | you would think that it would increase on the weekends | 06:39 |
| JLP | nah, it's much more interesting to be here during work/school, during weekends you just go out if the weather is nice :) | 06:40 |
| mithro | well, I guess since we have mostly lurkers | 06:45 |
| mithro | JLP: you got any time to do some testing? | 06:45 |
| * JLP jealously looks at his sister's new 21" widescreen LCD | 06:46 | |
| JLP | mithro: yeah i can do some testing, just need to update the sources and probably install a couple of dependencis | 06:47 |
| mithro | okay | 06:48 |
| mithro | I just need some feedback on the changes to the starmap | 06:48 |
| * JLP emerging git and cogito | 06:49 | |
| JLP | mithro: which one is better to get, NumPy or SciPy | 07:03 |
| mithro | scipy should include numpy | 07:03 |
| mithro | if I understand the relationship correctly | 07:03 |
| mithro | it's all a bit hard to follow | 07:03 |
| JLP | ok i'll try numpy since it is a lot smaller :) | 07:04 |
| mithro | yeah | 07:04 |
| mithro | what distro? | 07:04 |
| JLP | Gentoo | 07:06 |
| mithro | ahh okay | 07:09 |
| mithro | wxPython should take forever too build | 07:09 |
| JLP | hm looks like the available wxpython 2.8 is not even available, only 2.6 | 07:09 |
| mithro | ? | 07:11 |
| JLP | let me see if they have it in some overlay, otherwise i will kdinap my sister's computer with Mandriva 2008 and try there | 07:17 |
| mithro | JLP: it's not hugely important | 07:27 |
| mithro | here comes a rather large push | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r2e3c7f3de94e /windows/winSplash.py: Use both SDL environment varibles to center the splash screen. | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r83102920c273 /windows/main/panelPicture.py: Don't print out the download progress to the console. | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r2394f4daaabb /windows/xrc/generate.py: Fixed a missing newline in generated output. | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r2b34b02cb930 /windows/xrc/generate.py: Added support for the ComboBox. | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * rb920f5a5f706 /windows/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Start of the Starmap panel using XRC. | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * rf18ab7ce9469 /extra/wxFloatCanvas/FloatCanvas.py: Fixed the UnBindAll method. | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r984fb31d0e42 /windows/main/overlays/Overlay.py: Added some more sanity checks and also unbinds any event callbacks. | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r3819aea96e9e /windows/xrc/generate.py: Added support for wxChoice code generation. | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r69f8d8a218dd /windows/main/overlays/Colorizer.py: The colorizers now have a consistent interface (and now publish human names). | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r4f7986acd038 /windows/ (7 files in 3 dirs): | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | Added support for overlays to add custom objects to toolbar. | 07:29 |
| CIA-17 | Allows the systems overlay to add a Colorizer chooser drop-down box. | 07:29 |
| mithro | reworks how the starmap toolbar interface works | 07:29 |
| mithro | will be adding a "waypoint" mode soon - which should make the client like a bazillion times easier too use | 07:30 |
| mithro | then if I can get greywhind to finish of his changes we should be in the position to start doing RC releases | 07:32 |
| mithro | JLP: any luck? | 08:02 |
| JLP | mithro: yeah found an overlay with wxwindows 2.8.6, will start emerging it right after firefox finishes | 08:04 |
| mithro | what is an overlay? | 08:04 |
| JLP | mithro: gentoo has the official portage repository with official recipes for package compilation and installation | 08:05 |
| JLP | overlays are a kind of additional repositories which you can add | 08:05 |
| mithro | okay | 08:06 |
| mithro | i'm suprised that gentoo doesn't have 2.8 | 08:06 |
| mithro | they normally have the bleeding edge of everything | 08:07 |
| JLP | mithro: yeah i was as surprised as you | 08:07 |
| mithro | wonder why | 08:09 |
| JLP | mithro: the bug with bump request is here - http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145884 | 08:09 |
| tpb | Title: Gentoo Bug 145884 - x11-libs/wxGTK-2.8 version bump (at bugs.gentoo.org) | 08:09 |
| JLP | if you feel like reaDING :) | 08:10 |
| * JLP is still not used to keyboard layout on the new laptop | 08:10 | |
| mithro | not really, I don't care too much for gentoo :P | 08:12 |
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| mithro | wb JLP | 08:40 |
| mithro | wb JLP? | 08:44 |
| mithro | bah | 08:44 |
| mithro | any luck? | 08:44 |
| * mithro ponders | 08:52 | |
| mithro | should he spend another hour or two on tpclient-pywx of go watch some tv | 08:53 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r53b466276354 /windows/main/panelStarMap.py: MouseMode selection dialog. | 08:54 |
| mithro | I think I'm going to go and watch some tv | 08:56 |
| mithro | see ya all tommorrow! | 08:56 |
| JLP | mithro: sorry, was booking the plane ticket to pariz for KDE Education project meeting | 08:57 |
| mithro | ahh cool | 08:57 |
| mithro | have to figure out a ruleset to make tp educational :P | 08:58 |
| JLP | :) | 08:58 |
| JLP | i think there is much education hidden in any ruleset | 08:58 |
| mithro | yeah that is true | 08:59 |
| mithro | I wish there where more people working on tpclient-pywx | 09:00 |
| mithro | it's just such a big program that it is hard to keep it moving forward :/ | 09:00 |
| mithro | JLP: how goes your qtopia stuff? | 09:01 |
| mithro | you done anything more? | 09:01 |
| JLP | mithro: i've setup the development environment for it and checked that it's working | 09:05 |
| JLP | i also entered some tasks into project management app so that i will try to see how it is going along | 09:06 |
| JLP | i start the real work tomorrow and than about 4 hours every day until Nov 30 | 09:06 |
| mithro | okay cool | 09:15 |
| * JLP goes voting the president of Slovenia | 09:16 | |
| mithro | ugg, giant flying ants | 09:52 |
| * JLP is back, now let's get wxpython 2.8 emerging | 10:04 | |
| mithro | good luck | 10:04 |
| JLP | thanks | 10:04 |
| JLP | ok wxpython installed, now let's see | 10:21 |
| mithro | cool | 10:29 |
| JLP | mithro: is it normal that when I select an object inside my system and then mouse over some object in the map that selection jumps from that object to the star system | 10:30 |
| mithro | JLP: after a couple of seconds | 10:31 |
| mithro | it should show a grey arrow instead of the normal red arrow | 10:32 |
| JLP | mithro: it appears to jump from the selected object (planet, ship) to the parent star system right after i move the mouse away | 10:32 |
| JLP | if I keep the mouse a couple of seconds then the selection jumps to the system where i hold my mouse over | 10:32 |
| mithro | it should work the following | 10:33 |
| mithro | you click on an system and the red arrow goes to it | 10:33 |
| JLP | yes | 10:34 |
| mithro | if you keep clicking it cycles through all the objects at that location | 10:34 |
| JLP | yes | 10:34 |
| mithro | if you mouse over another system and hover their for a second it should pop-up a grey arrow which previews the object | 10:34 |
| mithro | if you then leave the system, the displayed object goes back to the one which has the red arrow | 10:34 |
| JLP | this is how i get the problem: | 10:35 |
| JLP | i select a planet inside my star system, the planet gets red arrow | 10:35 |
| JLP | i mouse over another system | 10:36 |
| JLP | it gets a gray arow, which is ok | 10:36 |
| JLP | but when i mouse away from that system, instaed of my click-selected planet the parent system gets selected | 10:36 |
| mithro | oh | 10:37 |
| mithro | hrm... I am not getting that here | 10:37 |
| JLP | mithro: ok now after some playing around it is different | 10:44 |
| mithro | ? | 10:44 |
| JLP | i sent my fleet outside the system, i selected the planet and now the selection always resets back to the fleet | 10:44 |
| mithro | any errors on the console? | 10:44 |
| mithro | ? | 10:44 |
| mithro | anyway you can get a screencast of this? | 10:45 |
| JLP | mithro: this is on the console: http://rafb.net/p/foAVKY46.html | 10:47 |
| tpb | Title: Nopaste - Console messages (at rafb.net) | 10:47 |
| mithro | that all looks fine | 10:49 |
| mithro | hrm... | 10:49 |
| mithro | you on the -dev branch I am assuming? | 10:49 |
| JLP | yup | 10:49 |
| mithro | hrm... | 10:50 |
| mithro | you should be getting the following | 10:50 |
| mithro | SystemEnter <1 [<StarSystem @ 61>, <Fleet @ 63>, <Planet @ 62>]> <1 [<StarSystem @ 61>, <Fleet @ 63>, <Planet @ 62>]> | 10:50 |
| mithro | SystemLeave None <1 [<StarSystem @ 61>, <Fleet @ 63>, <Planet @ 62>]> | 10:50 |
| mithro | <StarSystem @ 61> None | 10:50 |
| mithro | <Fleet @ 63> None | 10:50 |
| mithro | <Planet @ 62> None | 10:50 |
| mithro | SystemLeave <1 [<StarSystem @ 61>, <Fleet @ 63>, <Planet @ 62>]> <1 [<StarSystem @ 61>, <Fleet @ 63>, <Planet @ 62>]> | 10:50 |
| mithro | Drawing Arrow! | 10:50 |
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| CIA-17 | mithro libtpclient-py-development * r94a6fa4e23af /tp/client/ (__init__.py threads.py): Gived each thread a name. | 10:53 |
| mithro | hey Demitar | 10:53 |
| Demitar | Hello there mithro. | 10:54 |
| mithro | Demitar: you should try the latest -dev client | 10:55 |
| mithro | it is looking quite good | 10:55 |
| Demitar | Will do. :) | 10:56 |
| mithro | just need to add easy waypointing and we can start playing RFTS games | 10:57 |
| Demitar | Repositories switched to git? | 10:57 |
| mithro | Demitar: yes, a long time ago | 10:57 |
| mithro | before the SoC started | 10:58 |
| mithro | JLP: I can't seem to reproduce any of your bugs | 10:58 |
| mithro | JLP: can you paste the complete log message? I need the requirements.py bits | 10:59 |
| JLP | mithro: i have now restarted the client and after that i get again jumping back to my home system, no matter what i select before that | 11:00 |
| JLP | mithro: will do, will restart again an post everything | 11:00 |
| mithro | hrm.... this is annoying | 11:02 |
| JLP | mithro: requirements.py: http://rafb.net/p/ceBrJr74.html | 11:02 |
| tpb | Title: Nopaste - requirements.py (at rafb.net) | 11:02 |
| mithro | after you do a cache reload no object is selected | 11:02 |
| mithro | so the red arrow will jump to the first object you mouse over | 11:03 |
| JLP | mithro: Log: http://rafb.net/p/Fbhkeu63.html | 11:04 |
| tpb | Title: Nopaste - Log (at rafb.net) | 11:04 |
| JLP | mithro: oh wait, i think i know something more precise | 11:06 |
| mithro | okay | 11:06 |
| JLP | mithro: if i use the starmap to select the objects all is ok, it only happens if i use the system tree that i get the problem | 11:06 |
| * mithro tests | 11:06 | |
| mithro | JLP: ahh you are right | 11:07 |
| mithro | that should be fairly easy to fix | 11:07 |
| Demitar | mithro: Woo! Now *that* is a shiny intro animation. :) Just some sound and it'll raise expectations beyond what you can possibly deliver. ;) | 11:09 |
| mithro | :P | 11:09 |
| mithro | no sound in space | 11:09 |
| Demitar | Shiny, color coded planet information. :) | 11:10 |
| Demitar | I get the feeling most can't rival my fleets on the demo server. My two planets have a defense fleet of 50 scouts, 30 frigates and 25 battleships each. :) | 11:12 |
| Demitar | A tad difficult to target movement I think. | 11:16 |
| CIA-17 | mithro tpclient-pywx-development * r1a3db32b9675 /windows/main/overlays/Overlay.py: Fixed a bug where the red arrow would jump about after selecting from the tree. | 11:21 |
| mithro | Demitar: yes, the waypoint stuff is next thing I need to add | 11:21 |
| mithro | which should solve that problem | 11:21 |
| mithro | Demitar: I dunno, the Cannon Fodder planet might give you a run for your money | 11:21 |
| Demitar | mithro: Something my scanners aren't picking up? :) | 11:24 |
| mithro | we don't have scanners in Minisec | 11:24 |
| mithro | http://mithro.dyndns.org/~tim/tparsec-demo1-5945.png | 11:26 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/14he> (at mithro.dyndns.org) | 11:26 |
| Demitar | mithro: *nods* But I only see a single scout on that planet. | 11:28 |
| Demitar | Anyway, I'll be off for now. :) | 11:28 |
| mithro | Demitar: they have about 20 frigates, 20 battleships scattered over the system | 11:28 |
| mithro | s/system/universe | 11:29 |
| mithro | Demitar: and could easily produce a lot more very quickly | 11:29 |
| JLP | mithro: wow this looks cool, something else cooking for the client? | 11:29 |
| mithro | JLP: it's the starmapper program with the tp plugin | 11:30 |
| mithro | see the 'Thousand Parsec encounters Starmapper' thread | 11:30 |
| * JLP goes reading the thread | 11:31 | |
| mithro | he is the one who has been developing libtpproto-java | 11:31 |
| mithro | going to have to get Lee to investigate what is up with designs on demo1 | 11:32 |
| mithro | I'm getting some type of corruption | 11:32 |
| mithro | anyway have to get some sleep | 11:42 |
| mithro | JLP: anything else before I go | 11:42 |
| JLP | mithro: i don't think so, from tomorrow i'll probably again come up with some newbie questions about programming, so get some rest and prepare for tomorrow :) | 11:46 |
| mithro | he he sure! | 11:46 |
| mithro | I've been programming C++ for pay now :) | 11:47 |
| JLP | so you already got the job, cool | 11:47 |
| mithro | JLP: you have been out of the loop for a while it seems :P | 11:50 |
| mithro | http://blog.mithis.net/ | 11:50 |
| tpb | Title: Mithro rants about stuff : (at blog.mithis.net) | 11:50 |
| mithro | anyway really going now | 11:51 |
| mithro | see ya! | 11:51 |
| JLP | mithro: yeah completely, lost touch with KDE and TP and some other things, still doing the catching up :) | 11:51 |
| JLP | mithro: bye | 11:51 |
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| mithro | ~seen niphree | 18:34 |
| tpb | mithro: niphree was last seen in #tp 6 weeks, 4 days, 11 hours, 1 minute, and 24 seconds ago: <niphree> ok | 18:34 |
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| mithro | morning nash | 18:40 |
| mithro | nash: did you get a chance to look at the student applications at all? | 18:40 |
| nash | mithro: There in a mintute | 18:47 |
| * mithro needs to head to work in a minute | 18:48 | |
| nash | Talk to you when you arrive then ;-) | 18:49 |
| mithro | okay | 18:51 |
| mithro | i'll probably be about 45-1 hour then | 18:51 |
| mithro | huge traffic jam on my route and I have to catch a bus today :/ | 18:51 |
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| mithro | morning people | 19:53 |
| nash | heyo | 19:55 |
| mithro | nash: so, were where we? | 19:55 |
| nash | Well I had a brief look... and was unimpressed I have to say :-( | 19:56 |
| nash | I didn't look at them all | 19:56 |
| mithro | nash: yeah - most of them where not very good | 19:56 |
| * nash notes however he finds it hard to find good looking java code | 19:57 | |
| mithro | there where one or two who had decent grades all the way through - most had started with HDs and where now getting P1's | 19:57 |
| nash | What is a P1? | 19:57 |
| mithro | but then grades are not a good indicator of anything | 19:57 |
| nash | Maybe, maybe not | 19:58 |
| nash | What year are they? | 19:58 |
| mithro | P1 - lowest pass mark (IE You just passed), P2 == we passed you (but we should have failed you) | 19:58 |
| nash | Ahh... PC Pass Conceded | 19:59 |
| nash | My favourite is PF (Pass Failed - you don't need to do this course again, but you can't use it as a prereq... so if it's core, you are screwed) | 19:59 |
| mithro | PF == P2 | 19:59 |
| nash | Cool | 19:59 |
| * nash looks again | 20:01 | |
| nash | How many | 20:01 |
| nash | Are you selectiong? | 20:03 |
| mithro | probably between 2 and 4 | 20:03 |
| nash | C = credir I assume? | 20:03 |
| mithro | HD = High Distinction, D = Distinction, C = Credit, P1, P2, F | 20:05 |
| nash | Problem is I don't know the courses that well... when I see a UNSW transcript I can work out good and bad real quick... great OS = good student... great Networking... means nothing | 20:06 |
| nash | "Electronic Publishing on the Internet"? Bloody hell - is that a tafe course? | 20:08 |
| mithro | arg, I want to be working on Thousand Parsec - not evil C++ code | 20:43 |
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| mithro | hey llnz | 23:11 |
| llnz | hi mithro | 23:13 |
| mithro | so, we going to see any tpserver-cpp work in the near future? | 23:20 |
| llnz | maybe, have been busy | 23:20 |
| mithro | I'm hoping to do an RC for tpclient-pywx-dev in about 1-2 months | 23:20 |
| llnz | (with other things) | 23:20 |
| mithro | so it would be nice to have a stable server to connect too | 23:20 |
| llnz | cool | 23:20 |
| mithro | I finished a major part of the starmap changes last night | 23:21 |
| llnz | my tpserver-cpp is running again, btw | 23:22 |
| mithro | okay | 23:30 |
| mithro | any idea what is up with the design stuff? | 23:30 |
| llnz | nope, seemed to work for me, could you check my server right now? | 23:31 |
| mithro | llnz: weird, looks fine | 23:34 |
| mithro | yet my local tpserver-cpp has problems | 23:34 |
| mithro | maybe it is a guile/mzscheme problem? | 23:34 |
| llnz | shouldn't be, but could | 23:34 |
| llnz | i use guile, as does demo1 | 23:35 |
| mithro | llnz: I use guile locally too | 23:36 |
| mithro | what version of guile? | 23:36 |
| mithro | I'm using 1.8 | 23:37 |
| llnz | 1.6, 1.6.8-6 | 23:37 |
| mithro | ahh it is a 1.6 vs 1.8 thing then | 23:38 |
| mithro | verbal has guile 1.8 | 23:39 |
| llnz | humm... | 23:39 |
| mithro | can you install 1.8 and give it a try? | 23:39 |
| llnz | will do at some point | 23:40 |
| llnz | why do you want me to claim the commits by tailor? they are not me, they are a few different people | 23:41 |
| mithro | llnz: they are? | 23:58 |
| mithro | llnz: I just assumed they where done by you | 23:58 |
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