Friday, 2020-02-28

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CarlFKbunnie[m]: mithro xobs?  netv2 - who picked out which micro-hdmi port to use?   because I want to put on on a board and I'm wondering which part to pick01:34
xobsCarlFK: I'm going to guess it's a factory-selected part.  Judging from the PDF notes.01:41
* xobs uploaded an image: image.png (27KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/wjVFCgGCDVVwuidfbUzaZpBv >01:41
xobsI'm not finding much information on "KAWEEI" other than they exist, and I'm certainly not finding much on "CHDMI-DFMS-01-D"01:41
xobsBut it definitely is a standard Molex footprint!  For example, if I search that footprint, I get this: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/molex/0467651301/WM11255CT-ND/528724701:42
tpbTitle: 0467651301 Molex | Connectors, Interconnects | DigiKey (at www.digikey.com)01:42
CarlFKmy goal is to make an adapter that fits in the phone cradle of a ...02:05
CarlFKmotorola lapdoc cell phone thing.. that I can not find a part number on02:05
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CarlFKhttps://www.ebay.com/i/133315518635 AT&T Laptop Dock for Motorola ATRIX 4G OEM Box & Manual P/N 6524203:01
tpbTitle: AT Laptop Dock for Motorola ATRIX 4G OEM Box & Manual P/N 65242 NO AC Adapter | eBay (at www.ebay.com)03:01
CarlFKgood pics. wish I could find something more 'official'03:01
CarlFKxobs: that part has 2 rows of pins 10 out the back, and 9 underneath.   If I want quantity 10, what's the price of getting that fabbed ?03:17
xobsCarlFK: I'm not clear what you're looking for.  You want a cable, a PCB, a laptop clamshell, or something else?04:04
CarlFKxobs: the goal is to use that as an hdmi monitor and a usb keyboard.   I can buy cables with female ends:04:20
CarlFKhttps://www.ebay.com/i/17406357392804:20
tpbTitle: only hdmi & usb cables! for Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX HD etc to lapdock Atrix 4G | eBay (at www.ebay.com)04:20
CarlFKbut I would rather have a little PCB that is just a gender changer - that I can zip tie or glue in place04:21
xobsSo they use an HDMI-D plug and run power and USB over some of the unused pins?04:22
CarlFKor velcro ... so that I can remove it for packing04:22
CarlFKthere is a power jack04:22
CarlFKthe made an hdmi monitor with a male plug (to fit into a phone)04:22
futarisIRCcloudOhh lapdocks? These are ok, but the screen is pretty average.04:26
CarlFKfutarisIRCcloud: do you know what the res is?04:26
futarisIRCcloudhttp://nexdock.com/touch/ are a better newer option, if you don't mind spending slightly more.04:26
tpbTitle: Touch | NexDock - Turn your Smartphone into a Laptop (at nexdock.com)04:26
futarisIRCcloudAtrix lapdock has a 1366 x 768 screen. 11.5"04:27
CarlFK"With the full size HDMI-in port" that's worth $10004:27
CarlFK1366 x 768 - so slightly bigger than 1280x720.  - do you know if it it will upscale 720?04:28
xobsI backed (and eventually received!) https://www.sentio.com/ which sends the video data over USB (using DisplayLink), not HDMI.04:28
CarlFKmy use case is conference recording - both Opsis display and i3 cpu desktop for video mixer04:29
futarisIRCcloudCarlFK: Not sure about the the upscaling.04:29
futarisIRCcloudNexdock 2 and touch have both full HDMI input ports and USB-C.04:30
xobsCarlFK: to answer your original question -- 10 HDMI-D connectors are $18.49.  You'll want HDMI connectors, which look to be about the same cost -- 10 for $18.  USB-C is about $20 in qty 10.04:36
CarlFKxobs: mostly I am wondering how I'll get them soldered to a pc board04:37
xobsBasically, go to Digikey, search for connectors, and sort by "Quantity Available".04:37
xobsFor example: https://www.digikey.com/products/en/connectors-interconnects/usb-dvi-hdmi-connectors/312?k=&pkeyword=&sv=0&pv28=418395&sf=0&FV=-8%7C312&quantity=&ColumnSort=-1000009&page=1&pageSize=2504:37
tpbTitle: USB, DVI, HDMI Connectors | Connectors, Interconnects | DigiKey (at www.digikey.com)04:37
xobsFor these, hot air rework is your friend.  As long as the board is tinned, you should be able to slather on flux, drop the part on, and apply heat.04:38
CarlFKdid that a year ago, I now have a few of each.  local guy said "how do you expect to solder that?"04:38
CarlFKah.  so I can do it myself04:38
xobsIt's only three components, so I'd say so!04:38
xobsSuper glue is also handy in these situations.04:38
CarlFKglue first?04:39
futarisIRCcloudhttps://www.adafruit.com/product/3119 or https://www.adafruit.com/product/3121 would probably work otherwise.04:40
tpbTitle: HDMI Plug Breakout Board ID: 3119 - $3.50 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits (at www.adafruit.com)04:40
xobsCarlFK: yes, tack it down with glue so the hot air doesn't blow it away.04:40
xobsOr kapton tape.04:41
CarlFKhuh.  I thought it needed to float around so the .. surface tension? would align the pins and pads04:42
xobsDepends on the size of the part.  That's definitely what you want for big ICs.04:43
xobsI guess the super glue trick is more useful for tiny things like 0201 resistors.04:43
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CarlFKhttps://www.adafruit.com/product/3559  DIY HDMI Cable Parts - Straight Micro HDMI Socket05:35
tpbTitle: DIY HDMI Cable Parts - Straight Micro HDMI Socket Adapter ID: 3559 - $6.50 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits (at www.adafruit.com)05:35
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CarlFK$6.50 for one end hurts a little, but I can live with just one for now05:46
bunnie[m]<CarlFK "bunnie: mithro xobs?  netv2 - wh"> The Kaweei is a china-domestic clone of that molex part. basically a cost-down substitution of the molex equivalent.08:31
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CarlFKbunnie[m]: got it.18:34
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