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mithro | shenki: the FPGA is too small | 01:14 |
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mithro | shenki: http://www.sioi.com.au/shop/index.php/cPath/30_24 these boards are the same only better | 01:14 |
tpb | Title: FPGA boards, Silicon On Inspiration webstore (at www.sioi.com.au) | 01:15 |
mithro | http://www.sioi.com.au/shop/product_info.php/cPath/30_24/products_id/48 <- that is the equivalent | 01:15 |
tpb | Title: Spartan 6 LX9 + 32MB DRAM, Silicon On Inspiration webstore (at www.sioi.com.au) | 01:15 |
mithro | found via Joelw :) | 01:15 |
Joelw | :) | 01:15 |
shenki | mithro: they don't have any HDMI io | 01:18 |
mithro | shenki: true, but they have a very nice expansion port | 01:19 |
shenki | mithro: i can upgrade it for $30 to a LX25 | 01:31 |
mithro | LX25 is much better | 01:32 |
mithro | I would highly recommend it, but $30 is a just a tiny bit more than I'd pay for it. | 01:32 |
shenki | the netv is a lx9 | 01:34 |
shenki | mithro: i don't know the product line off by heart. does lX9 vs 25 vs 45 just give you more gates? | 01:36 |
shenki | "logic elements" | 01:36 |
shenki | whatever we're calling them today | 01:36 |
Joelw | You get more DSPs, BRAM and I/Os, too. | 01:47 |
Joelw | http://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/data_sheets/ds160.pdf | 01:47 |
Joelw | Oh, and more clock management and MCBs | 01:48 |
shenki | right | 02:12 |
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mithro | shenki / tija: were are we at getting your debug code merged? | 03:25 |
tija | mithro: Currently, the debug output is displayed using gtkterm. I am writing a program so that it outputs in human readable format. | 03:30 |
mithro | tija: what you writing it in? | 03:31 |
tija | mithro: in C | 03:31 |
mithro | Okay. C or Python were the two acceptable answers :) | 03:32 |
tija | why? | 03:33 |
shenki | haha | 03:36 |
shenki | as far as the existing pull request goes, we needed to add copyright headers | 03:36 |
shenki | and then it can get merged | 03:36 |
shenki | tija: do you know how to edit commits in git? | 03:37 |
tija | shenki: you mean via browser itself? | 03:37 |
shenki | tija: nah | 03:37 |
shenki | tija: using interactive rebasing | 03:37 |
shenki | git rebase -i | 03:37 |
shenki | tija: do you want to learn, or do you want me to fix up your commits? | 03:38 |
tija | shenkI; I will fix it up, no worries | 03:38 |
tija | shenki: vc? | 03:39 |
shenki | oh, it's that time | 03:39 |
* shenki has been awake a lot the past 24 hours | 03:39 | |
shenki | watched tour de france, then slept for a few hours, and woke up to watch the world cup final | 03:40 |
shenki | then went straight to work | 03:40 |
shenki | tija: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/am9lbC5zdGFuQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ.got7np1f55v42fvmbd8ha1vqpk | 03:41 |
tpb | Title: Google+ (at plus.google.com) | 03:41 |
shenki | tija: so, here's what i suggest you do: | 04:00 |
shenki | git clone https://github.com/shenki/HDMI2USB | 04:00 |
tpb | Title: shenki/HDMI2USB · GitHub (at github.com) | 04:00 |
shenki | cd HDMI2USB | 04:00 |
shenki | git checkout ajit-debug | 04:00 |
shenki | *hack* *hack* *hack* | 04:00 |
shenki | git commit -av -m"Awesome improvements" | 04:01 |
shenki | git remote add ajit-github git://github.com/ajit/HDMI2USB | 04:01 |
shenki | git push ajit-github ajit-debug:debug | 04:01 |
shenki | so the end result is my patches + your awesome improvements will end up in your github repo, in a branch named 'debug' | 04:02 |
tija | shenki: thanks | 04:02 |
shenki | when you break it, just give me a yell | 04:03 |
shenki | as long as you don't type the words '--force' or 'rebase', you shouldn't lose any data | 04:03 |
tija | sorry but what does this mean "give me a yell" | 04:04 |
Joelw | 'just tell me' | 04:04 |
tija | okay I will break and yell :P | 04:05 |
shenki | :) | 04:05 |
shenki | thanks Joelw | 04:05 |
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tija_ | Did anyone notice this? https://github.com/timvideos/HDMI2USB/wiki/Installing-Exar-Driver | 05:41 |
tpb | Title: Installing Exar Driver · timvideos/HDMI2USB Wiki · GitHub (at github.com) | 05:41 |
shenki | tija: yep, looks good | 05:42 |
shenki | tija: it inspired me to hack on the driver while watching the world cup | 05:42 |
tija_ | shenki: you mentioned you got pull request for this. :D | 05:43 |
tija_ | I mean the exar_driver repo | 05:43 |
shenki | tija_: i did, yeah, to package it for debian | 05:53 |
shenki | tija_: i don't think it's very useful though, as it doesn't cooexist with the existing cdc-acm driver | 05:53 |
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mithro | Yes I did. | 06:04 |
shenki | tija_: have you pushed your debug program? | 06:04 |
tija_ | shenki: give me an hour making some changes | 06:05 |
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shenki | tija_: ok. don't forget to push it :) | 06:07 |
tija_ | shenki: yeah sure | 06:07 |
aps-sids | mithro: I'm not able to figure out where the code for some of the flumotion components is coming. For example, x264-encoder https://github.com/timvideos/streaming-system/blob/master/tools/flumotion-config/pusher/encoder.xml#L187-L213 | 06:09 |
tpb | Title: streaming-system/tools/flumotion-config/pusher/encoder.xml at master · timvideos/streaming-system · GitHub (at github.com) | 06:09 |
aps-sids | mithro: ah, got it. flumotion-ugly | 06:13 |
mithro | shenki: I have two Zybo development boards now | 06:14 |
shenki | mithro: shiny! | 06:16 |
mithro | They are based off the series 7 technology | 06:17 |
mithro | I'm interested to see if it is possible to do 1080p on their pins | 06:17 |
shenki | yeah | 06:21 |
shenki | i imagine the ARM could run a software h264 encoder too | 06:21 |
shenki | perhaps not for 1080p | 06:21 |
shenki | mithro: do you have them in your hands? | 06:21 |
mithro | yes | 06:21 |
mithro | they are way smaller than I would have expected | 06:22 |
mithro | I will be bringing them to Adelaide | 06:22 |
shenki | ok | 06:22 |
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mithro | shenki: what license header are you proposing tija use? | 06:33 |
shenki | mithro: not sure. that's part of the reason why i haven't added it myself | 06:36 |
shenki | mithro: what do you suggest? | 06:36 |
mithro | The firmware is currently under a MIT license | 06:36 |
shenki | is that what we want new contributions to be put under? | 06:38 |
mithro | yes, I'd like the repo to stay under the same license as much as possible | 06:38 |
shenki | ok | 06:39 |
mithro | I don't know what the correct theory is regarding per-source-file copyright headers | 06:40 |
shenki | Yeah. I'm a fan of the one liner appraoch | 06:41 |
shenki | Copyright 2013 Fred Smith <[email protected]> | 06:42 |
shenki | Licened under the MIT Licence | 06:42 |
mithro | shenki: I think we should probably just be consistent with what currently is done | 06:43 |
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shenki | with less ascii art | 06:47 |
mithro | ASCII art? | 06:47 |
shenki | and more 80 line columns | 06:47 |
shenki | i think copying this format is good: http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT | 06:47 |
tpb | Title: The MIT License (MIT) | Open Source Initiative (at opensource.org) | 06:47 |
shenki | which is almsot what we hav | 06:47 |
shenki | have | 06:47 |
shenki | mithro: the current files look like this: | 06:47 |
shenki | -- ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// | 06:47 |
shenki | -- /// Copyright (c) 2012, Jahanzeb Ahmad | 06:48 |
shenki | -- /// All rights reserved. | 06:48 |
shenki | -- /// | 06:48 |
mithro | shenki: I think consistency should be our biggest goal at the moment | 06:48 |
mithro | shenki: we can do a programmatic transform at a later date if everything is consistent | 06:48 |
shenki | it's not consistant | 06:49 |
shenki | ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// | 06:49 |
shenki | ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// | 06:49 |
shenki | // Date - revision : Jan. 2008 - v 1.0 | 06:49 |
shenki | // Xilinx, Inc. 2008 www.xilinx.com | 06:49 |
shenki | // Description : TMDS encoder | 06:49 |
shenki | but okay | 06:50 |
shenki | we will cut paste from the other files | 06:50 |
mithro | shenki: SGTM | 07:13 |
mithro | I need to do an audit to understand everything | 07:13 |
tija_ | shenki/mithro: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0zz3gJ27U-VN2xMN0hZMHpZYjA/edit?usp=sharing | 08:06 |
tpb | Title: guvcview_video-2.mkv - Google Drive (at drive.google.com) | 08:06 |
tija_ | the HDMI0/1 is toggling between connected/disconnected which it should not | 08:07 |
shenki | tija_: nice | 08:26 |
shenki | tija_: where's the code? :) | 08:26 |
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aps-sids | mithro: I need to port components in flumotion-ugly. Should I add them to our flumotion repo or should I commit in flumotion-ugly itself? | 09:56 |
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mithro | aps-sids: you should have your own fork of flumotion-ugly | 10:19 |
mithro | aps-sids: have you chatted with CARAM_ recently? | 10:19 |
aps-sids | mithro: no | 10:19 |
mithro | okay, I'd like him to package your work in a docker container | 10:20 |
aps-sids | okay | 10:20 |
mithro | aps-sids: so, if you could guide him in getting that working, it would be awesome | 10:22 |
aps-sids | sure | 10:22 |
mithro | aps-sids: I'd like him to build off Ubuntu Trusty | 10:23 |
mithro | aps-sids: is there still that twisted issue? | 10:23 |
aps-sids | mithro: yes, some functionality of twisted that is used in flumotion was removed after twisted 11 | 10:24 |
mithro | aps-sids: Can you see if you could find a way to fix that? | 10:24 |
mithro | aps-sids: I'm sure there must be an alternative way to do it | 10:24 |
aps-sids | mithro: I can try. Isn't porting the remaining components being used a priority? | 10:25 |
mithro | aps-sids: well, that is a hard question | 10:25 |
mithro | aps-sids: I think spending half a day to investigate the amount of work to fix the twisted issue is worth half a day delay in the remaining components | 10:26 |
aps-sids | okay. | 10:26 |
aps-sids | mithro: one more problem. I'm working on "ported flumotion" by using ./env bash and activating the env in code and not actually installing this flumotion version. Now, I'm not sure how to use ugly components with this version since they are installed for system installed flumotion. I'm not sure if I'm being clear here. | 10:26 |
mithro | aps-sids: that is a good question | 10:27 |
mithro | aps-sids: yeah, I understand what you mean | 10:27 |
aps-sids | so, any ideas? | 10:29 |
mithro | aps-sids: what env does the bash set? | 10:32 |
aps-sids | aps@ubuntu:~/workspace/gsoc/flumotion-orig$ which flumotion | 10:32 |
aps-sids | /home/aps/workspace/gsoc/flumotion-orig/bin/flumotion | 10:32 |
aps-sids | env is in flumotion-orig folder | 10:32 |
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mithro | aps-sids: what I was trying to determine was if the environment variables are paths or not | 10:43 |
mithro | aps-sids: IE can you just whack /home/aps/workspace/gsoc/flumotion-ugly into them? | 10:43 |
mithro | aps-sids: is there any documentation in flumotion ugly? | 10:45 |
mithro | aps-sids: do you still need the old flumotion installed anymore? | 10:46 |
aps-sids | mithro: Here's the env file --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7792920/ | 10:46 |
tpb | Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) | 10:46 |
aps-sids | mithro: I use old flumotion just for using the flumotion-admin | 10:46 |
aps-sids | so I can make config changes on the go | 10:46 |
mithro | aps-sids: what is preventing the porting of flumotion-admin? | 10:47 |
mithro | aps-sids: do you know how much work is involved in that? | 10:47 |
aps-sids | mithro: that involves a lot of work itself. we need a replacement for python-kiwi (which is unmaintained) and also need to port whole gui to Gtk3 | 10:48 |
aps-sids | mithro: this thing works? https://github.com/timvideos/flumotion-extra | 10:49 |
tpb | Title: timvideos/flumotion-extra · GitHub (at github.com) | 10:49 |
aps-sids | Flumotion WebUI | 10:50 |
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mithro | aps-sids: poorly | 11:10 |
mithro | aps-sids: if we could improve that, it would be pretty awesome | 11:46 |
aps-sids | mithro: One thing at a time :P | 11:47 |
mithro | aps-sids: yeah | 11:47 |
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mithro | hey rohitksingh1 | 11:48 |
rohitksingh1 | mihtro: Hi! | 11:51 |
rohitksingh1 | *mithro: Hi! | 11:51 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: how are things going? | 11:51 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: I was pondering if we could connect clamp / coast to the two I2C data lines. As I2C is only going to be clocking data in when the clock changes and during those periods we are clocking data we probably don't care too much about coast / clamp? | 11:52 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: I'm on Plan B now. Writing FIFO based implementation for VGA Capture. Coding almost complete. Yesterday ran simulation which looked great. Will run on hardware tonight. | 11:53 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: those CLAMP and COAST are input (to AD9984A) | 11:54 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: so, if any input is detected, the IC will clamp the ADCs or COAST the PLL (whichever input is active) | 11:54 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: Which will result in erratic output (atleast color-wise). So, we can't connect them to I2C lines | 11:56 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: But, if we ensure that AD9984A is configured *only* at startup and their is *no* I2C activity after startup, them we may connect them. But, I'll not recommend going this way as we may need to dynamically changed settings or need I2C lines other devices (like EEPROMS) | 11:58 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: got your schematic somewhere for me to look at? | 12:00 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: so I'm going to be dedicating from late Friday (18th) till the 30th to work on HDMI2USB related stuff | 12:02 |
mithro | (full time) | 12:02 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: One more *major* problem with this implementation is that I2C lines are pulled-up at IDLE times. So, when there is no I2C activity, those CLAMP and COAST will also get pulled-up. So, this just puts off this plan. | 12:02 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: Yeah, they are on my Repo https://github.com/rohit91/HDMI2USB-vmodvga | 12:02 |
tpb | Title: rohit91/HDMI2USB-vmodvga · GitHub (at github.com) | 12:02 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: so if we could organise to get me a R1 board during that time, I can give it a good whack too | 12:02 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: yeah. I have got hot air soldering station and soldered the AD9984A, AD3304 and Connectors. Waiting for the AD3334s, Resistor Networks and RF Beads from Element14 | 12:04 |
rohitksingh1 | Also, I'd have to do that power supply fix again for this PCB, for it to be working. | 12:07 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: how long until you get the parts from Element14? | 12:11 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: They had issues with my Virtual Credit Card. Now, I've re-ordered using my father's Credit Card. The Order status is showing "Received". I hope I get them this week. | 12:14 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: did you end up chatting with tija about the clocking infrastructure? | 12:16 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: I figured out it myself :) | 12:16 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: is it documented somewhere now? | 12:17 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: could you add it to the developer document? | 12:17 |
mithro | shenki: flights all booked now | 12:17 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: another idea, break the pins we don't think we'll use but could still be useful out into a separate header which we could connect to a PMOD if needed? | 12:18 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: No, they are in my notebook (paper one). I'll add it to the document | 12:18 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: please do | 12:18 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: Yeah that seems plausible idea! Will add headers for COAST, CLAMP, OE and PWRDWN. (These are ones we'll not be uing) | 12:19 |
rohitksingh1 | *using | 12:19 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: you should pull them to the correct voltage too | 12:20 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: Do you mean pulling up the pins to some voltage or adding Voltage Pins and GND to header too?. Here only PWRDWN requires pul-up, rest can be used as-is | 12:22 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: the second part | 12:23 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: If nothing was connected to the header, you want things to still work | 12:23 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: Okay. Got that! | 12:23 |
mithro | shenki / Joelw: http://www.parallella.org/quick-start/ | 12:25 |
tpb | Title: Parallella Quick Start Guide | Parallella (at www.parallella.org) | 12:25 |
shenki | mithro: to adelaide? | 12:27 |
mithro | shenki: ? | 12:27 |
shenki | 21:47 <@mithro> shenki: flights all booked now | 12:27 |
mithro | shenki: yeah | 12:27 |
shenki | cool | 12:28 |
mithro | shenki: TripIt should have already shared the flight with you? | 12:28 |
shenki | mithro: yep, see it now | 12:30 |
mithro | shenki: great! | 12:31 |
* shenki has to decide about pycon | 12:32 | |
shenki | can still get fairly decently priced flights | 12:32 |
mithro | CARAM_: I got added to the AppEngine Managed VM stuff | 12:33 |
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mithro | shenki: Ajit hasn't been doing snippers for almost a week now | 13:05 |
mithro | shenki: can you poke him? | 13:05 |
shenki | mithro: i reminded him today, yes | 13:11 |
shenki | mithro: he took your advice about the copyright header literally | 13:12 |
shenki | https://github.com/ajitmathew/HDMI2USB/commit/b91d9f94ca08be1b68cf079c26fd7b5e24b3369e | 13:12 |
tpb | Title: Debugging program · b91d9f9 · ajitmathew/HDMI2USB · GitHub (at github.com) | 13:12 |
shenki | (note that it's a c file) | 13:12 |
shenki | mithro: that licence header doesn't correspond to the text of the licence on opensource.org | 13:13 |
mithro | why does that have -- in front of it? | 13:13 |
shenki | because we told him to cut and paste it from the vhdl :D | 13:13 |
shenki | (i imagine) | 13:13 |
mithro | ha, that won't compile though? | 13:14 |
shenki | correct, it will not | 13:14 |
mithro | occasionally I come across things in C which surprise me though :) | 13:14 |
mithro | shenki: the copyleft URL is borked too | 13:15 |
mithro | how does it compare to http://copyfree.org/content/standard/licenses/mit/license.txt ? | 13:15 |
mithro | I can never keep the MIT/BSD licenses straight in my head | 13:16 |
mithro | there also appears to be | 13:16 |
mithro | http://copyfree.org/content/standard/licenses/rev_bsd/license.txt | 13:16 |
mithro | and http://copyfree.org/content/standard/licenses/2bsd/license.txt ? | 13:16 |
mithro | shenki: C code should pass "lint" | 13:16 |
mithro | shenki: you also want to wrap any code comments in ```c\n\n``` | 13:17 |
shenki | it's simliar to the 2bsd one | 13:19 |
shenki | i dislike using this web-based review thing. i would prefer a mailing list | 13:19 |
mithro | shenki: I'm 100% sure it's copied from somewhere | 13:20 |
shenki | yes, the 2bsd one | 13:20 |
shenki | http://copyfree.org/content/standard/licenses/2bsd/license.txt | 13:20 |
mithro | shenki: can you create an issue for us to fix that | 13:20 |
mithro | shenki: is "kernel style" the same as Rusty's CCAN style? | 13:34 |
mithro | shenki: do I need to review something? | 13:36 |
mithro | shenki: pokg? | 13:43 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: do you want me to review the PCB at the moment? | 13:43 |
shenki | mithro: an issue to fix what? | 13:45 |
shenki | mithro: yeah, ccan is pretty much kernel style | 13:45 |
shenki | mithro: we don't need to follow it to the letter, but something that looks vaguely similar means our code will be readable | 13:46 |
mithro | shenki: I'm happy to enforce CCAN style | 13:46 |
shenki | ok | 13:46 |
mithro | shenki: does Rusty have a "lint" configuration that we can just use? | 13:46 |
shenki | mithro: not sure | 13:47 |
shenki | mithro: ccan has a lint tool, but that's about linting a ccan module | 13:48 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: you can review the schematic. PCB is not routed yet. | 13:49 |
mithro | shenki: a lot of those tests make sense for us too | 13:50 |
mithro | I'm reading <- https://github.com/rustyrussell/ccan/wiki/Ccanlint | 13:50 |
tpb | Title: Ccanlint · rustyrussell/ccan Wiki · GitHub (at github.com) | 13:50 |
mithro | http://www.unix.com/man-page/FreeBSD/1/lint | 13:54 |
tpb | Title: Man Page for lint (freebsd Section 1) - The UNIX and Linux Forums (at www.unix.com) | 13:54 |
shenki | we could get people to run it through the kernels' script | 13:54 |
shenki | ~/dev/kernels/linus/scripts/checkpatch.pl --no-tree -f debugger.c | 13:55 |
mithro | shenki: SGTM? | 13:56 |
mithro | shenki: how strict are they? I assume they have all the normal white space checks? | 13:57 |
mithro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splint_(programming_tool) | 13:58 |
mithro | ? | 13:58 |
mithro | btw I was looking through all my stuff and found a bunch of ULPI USB modules in my draw | 13:59 |
mithro | must have ordered them a long time back | 13:59 |
mithro | shenki: I'm happy for you to drive our C style, but I do want something people can just run and then fix errors (and possibly something we make part of a "presubmit check") | 13:59 |
mithro | I'm running home now | 14:00 |
shenki | mithro: it's pretty strict | 14:05 |
shenki | i think it would catch the major violations, and direct people in the right direction | 14:05 |
mithro | I <3 code consistency | 14:07 |
shenki | this code is awesome | 14:18 |
shenki | tija is a real hardware dude :) | 14:18 |
* shenki is accidently rewriting it | 14:19 | |
mithro | shenki: don't hardware dude's normally write terrible code? :P | 14:42 |
mithro | anyway, bed time for me | 14:44 |
mithro | rohitksingh1: sorry didn't get to the schematic today | 14:44 |
rohitksingh1 | mithro: No problem. We can discuss it in VC tomorrow! | 14:45 |
mithro | aps-sids: did you get anywhere with the possibility of porting the dvswitch plugin to gstreamer1.0 ? | 14:46 |
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tija | shenki/mithro : http://global3.memecdn.com/rmx-i-surrender_o_418592.jpg | 16:12 |
shenki | tija: haha | 16:16 |
shenki | tija: don't take offence at the comments, it's all about learning | 16:17 |
tija | shenki: none taken :) | 16:18 |
shenki | tija: no rush to address the issues straight away, but keep he feedback in mind as you keep developing the tool | 16:18 |
shenki | tija: i have been awake for 20 hours now, im going to bed. damn tour de france. but if you could send me a bitstream that works with the tool, i will test it on my fpga tomorrow | 16:19 |
tija | shenki: okay will do that | 16:19 |
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CARAM_ | mithro: cool | 18:53 |
CARAM_ | wanna test out an encoder? | 18:53 |
CARAM_ | and see how well it works? | 18:54 |
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Joelw | mithro: Yeah! I got my Parallella the other day. Haven't looked at it yet though. | 23:23 |
mithro | Joelw: Cool | 23:25 |
mithro | Joelw: are you free the weekend of 26th/27th? | 23:28 |
Joelw | Probably not at this stage - our project launch has been pushed back a week, so it'll probably be happening that weekend. | 23:28 |
mithro | Working weekends, huh? | 23:32 |
Joelw | Not normally, but the migration process takes a few days and users can't do their work while it's happening so that we can roll back without data loss, so we have to do part of it on the weekend :( | 23:33 |
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