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| nodeman | Hello everyone! Any mentors over here ? | 00:11 |
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| olly | yes, but... | 00:12 |
| olly | !anyone | nodeman | 00:12 |
| olly | ah, not #gsoc | 00:13 |
| olly | don't mind me | 00:13 |
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| madrazr | nodeman: Hello | 00:14 |
| nodeman | madrazr: Are there any JS only things that i can do for GSoC? | 00:17 |
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| madrazr | nodeman: there is at least one idea https://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GSoC2014Ideas#Javascript_Tests | 01:35 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BBV8> (at code.google.com) | 01:35 |
| nodeman | madrazr: another one too, porting melange to amd | 01:35 |
| madrazr | nodeman: but in any case it would much help to understand the system as a whole to work on a project than being narrow-sighted | 01:35 |
| madrazr | nodeman: and Melange is not that big of an application | 01:36 |
| nodeman | I understand your point. I don't really know Python. | 01:36 |
| nodeman | madrazr: Okay. | 01:36 |
| madrazr | nodeman: sure, you don't have to be a Python expert. But having a basic knowledge or be willing to learn as you go along will take you a long way | 01:37 |
| madrazr | than trying to not do anything about it | 01:37 |
| nodeman | madrazr: I am definitely willing to learn as it goes on. | 01:37 |
| madrazr | nodeman: cool! | 01:38 |
| nodeman | I have spent substantial amount of my time working with JS. So, i am kind of in a relationship with it :D | 01:38 |
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| nodeman | Are there any feature requests / issues that i can look at that involve JS (or frontend) and those which can be completed in a short period? I couldn't find much in the issues page. | 01:39 |
| nodeman | Can you direct me to someone ? Mario ? | 01:39 |
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| rishabh_ | hi ,is there a place where we can read previous year proposal for gsoc | 12:58 |
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| Mathnerd314 | does melange have a way for students to see which mentors have registered so far for an organization? | 17:43 |
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| vivekjain | madrazr:Hi | 18:53 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: Hi | 18:56 |
| vivekjain | madrazr:Regarding seeder module what are the exact problems in that ? | 18:57 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: didn't we discuss this yesterday? | 18:58 |
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| vivekjain | madrazr:yeah but what i want to know is the problem very complex ? | 18:59 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: I don't know how to answer that question | 19:00 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: we think it is worth a GSoC project of effort | 19:00 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: from our past experience of mentoring students over the years | 19:00 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: which is why we put that on our ideas list | 19:01 |
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| vivekjain | madrazr: I mean for seeder module, the things which are implemented,should i work over that or should i do it all over again ? | 19:03 |
| vivekjain | madrazr: Is there any way to check the problem in that module since it is not currently functional ? | 19:04 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: my answer to your exact question from yesterday | 19:05 |
| madrazr | vivekjainmadrazr: So in the project do we need to improve that module or create a new one ?20:41 | 19:05 |
| madrazr | madrazrvivekjain: that is open for discussion20:42 | 19:05 |
| madrazr | madrazrvivekjain: depends on what you propose | 19:05 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: seeder module is sort of functional | 19:05 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: there are tests using it | 19:06 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: you can grep through the source to try it out | 19:06 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: another thing to definitely do is to start a discussion thread on the mailing list | 19:06 |
| madrazr | So that Daniel and Nathaniel can also pitch in | 19:06 |
| madrazr | their ideas | 19:06 |
| vivekjain | madrazr: thanks, i will start the discussion on the thread. | 19:09 |
| vivekjain | madrazr:Also, In my opinion i think we should use the previous module. Is it fine ? | 19:10 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: as I said, whether it is fine or not depends on what you are exactly going to propose | 19:10 |
| madrazr | what you are going to change if you keep the current module | 19:10 |
| vivekjain | madrazr: Since the problem is with the random generation of the test data. The data should be predefined instead of generating it randomly . | 19:11 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: correct | 19:12 |
| madrazr | but also on the other hand we need good variance | 19:12 |
| madrazr | variation I mean | 19:13 |
| vivekjain | madrazr: Can't we have some predefined data with good variation. like in that predefined data, we will have corner cases. | 19:15 |
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| lionaneesh | madrazr: Ping! | 19:27 |
| madrazr | lionaneesh: pong | 19:28 |
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| lionaneesh | madrazr: Hey. I was looking into melange's project ideas - they are pretty interesting btw - and I couldn't get a hang of what "Resource Hosting" was actually demanding? | 19:29 |
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| lionaneesh | madrazr: I am sorry if my question seems silly. But I seriously don't get what problems is melange facing with resource hosting at present? | 19:36 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: sure | 19:44 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: that is a possibility | 19:44 |
| shikher | madrazr: did u get a chance to look at my project ideas doc? | 19:45 |
| madrazr | lionaneesh: this may help you http://www.thousandparsec.net/~irc/%23melange/%23melange.2014-03-05.log.html#t2014-03-05T21:33:04 | 19:45 |
| madrazr | shikher: not yet | 19:46 |
| tpb | Title: Wednesday, 2014-03-05 (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 19:46 |
| vivekjain | madrazr:Thank i am posting a thread on the mailing list .Should i add a cc to nathaniel, Daniel ,Chong and you ? | 19:46 |
| madrazr | shikher: not yet | 19:47 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: sure | 19:47 |
| vivekjain | madrazr:Thanks :) | 19:47 |
| shikher | madrazr: thats ok | 19:49 |
| ayushk | madrazr: Hi. I could understand after reading the project idea and our brief discussion on resource hosting that there is a need to create upload and download modules for ingesting and serving files, right? | 19:51 |
| ayushk | madrazr: I mean am I right? | 19:52 |
| madrazr | ayushk: correct | 19:54 |
| madrazr | basic upload and download is already there | 19:54 |
| madrazr | as I told you a couple of days bacl | 19:54 |
| madrazr | *back | 19:54 |
| madrazr | I did that work last fall | 19:54 |
| madrazr | for GCI 2013 | 19:54 |
| madrazr | ayushk: app/soc/modules/gci/views/static_content.py | 19:55 |
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| ayushk | madrazr: Okay, as much as I know, a file is uploaded to the blobstore and then a reference is saved in the datastore to refer to the file for later use. Is this what is happenig in this code to? | 20:01 |
| ayushk | *too | 20:01 |
| madrazr | ayushk: yes | 20:17 |
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| ayushk | madrazr: So of the other things that I need to do for the project, I have to sort of replicate this for GSOC, right? | 20:20 |
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| madrazr | ayushk: that's the very very first step | 20:51 |
| madrazr | ayushk: or I would say, make it generic to be usable by both modules | 20:52 |
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| RaulT | Is there somone I can talk to about my proposal idea ? | 20:52 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Hello, Can you help me with this one ? | 20:53 |
| madrazr | RaulT: which idea is this? | 20:53 |
| RaulT | madrazr: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/melange-soc-dev/2BOLATtmbek/cFlkAJuEM8QJ | 20:54 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BChj> (at groups.google.com) | 20:54 |
| ayushk | madrazr: Cool! So other than this, I have to also create views for upload and download of files. | 20:54 |
| madrazr | ayushk: yeah | 20:54 |
| madrazr | ayushk: for various things | 20:54 |
| madrazr | RaulT: what about it? | 20:54 |
| RaulT | madrazr: I wrote this last week and I did't get any feedback, So any information you could provide would be helpfull | 20:54 |
| madrazr | ayushk: we discussed some of them yesterday | 20:54 |
| RaulT | madrazr: I know everyone is busy so if you could find the time I would be gratefull | 20:55 |
| madrazr | RaulT: if you want reply on the email, I would say please wait for the replies | 20:56 |
| madrazr | RaulT: to be only fair to other students, there are emails that came before this that still need attention | 20:56 |
| madrazr | RaulT: if you have more specific questions, we can discuss right now | 20:57 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Ok, I did not know that. | 20:57 |
| ayushk | madrazr: Are proposals for gsoc uploaded by students (pdf files) or they are created online on the text editor? | 20:57 |
| madrazr | ayushk: latter | 20:58 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Sorry to have bothered you. | 20:59 |
| madrazr | RaulT: no no | 20:59 |
| madrazr | no worries | 20:59 |
| RaulT | madrazr: be happy ! :) | 20:59 |
| madrazr | RaulT: always :D | 21:00 |
| ayushk | madrazr: why is that? I mean why don't we give them a choice to upload that as they file. Same for documents on this page - http://localhost:8100/gsoc/program/edit/google/gsoc2014 | 21:03 |
| ayushk | *as a file | 21:03 |
| ayushk | madrazr: or even better, if they want to give a link of a file hosted on web, we can first get that file and then upload that to blobstore. | 21:07 |
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| RaulT | madrazr: What evaluation records pages must be manually created ? I am talking about this issue (http://goo.gl/3h4hXH) | 21:28 |
| tpb | Title: Issue 1574 - soc - Make evaluation records page automatically get created - SoC (Spice of Creation) - Google Project Hosting (at goo.gl) | 21:28 |
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| madrazr | RaulT: I don't think we have to fix this | 21:51 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Ok. I will leave it then | 21:52 |
| madrazr | ayushk: I did not get your question | 21:56 |
| madrazr | ayushk: may be rephrase? | 21:56 |
| madrazr | what do you mean by "why don't we give them a choice to upload that as a file" | 21:56 |
| madrazr | ? | 21:56 |
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| ayushk | madrazr: How do a student submit proposal for gsoc? | 21:58 |
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| madrazr | ayushk: on the proposal form | 21:59 |
| madrazr | ayushk: by using the proposal form I mean | 21:59 |
| ayushk | madrazr: What is that? I mean is it a uploadable file or something else? | 22:00 |
| madrazr | or it is a free-form text field | 22:01 |
| madrazr | where you need to type in the proposal content | 22:01 |
| madrazr | or well copy paste :P | 22:01 |
| ayushk | madrazr: so why not use a file upload for a proposal? | 22:02 |
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| RaulT | madrazr: I believe I have found another already solved issue (http://goo.gl/lBr5kb) On my local instance I get this http://goo.gl/NDdiaO. | 22:04 |
| tpb | Title: Issue 1906 - soc - Individual students' "manage projects" pages don't offer guidance on date-time format - SoC (Spice of Creation) - Google Project Hosting (at goo.gl) | 22:04 |
| madrazr | ayushk: you are more than welcome to work on that | 22:06 |
| madrazr | ayushk: we have had a couple of students who worked on that in the previous GSoCs | 22:07 |
| madrazr | none of that code has made into our master | 22:07 |
| madrazr | ayushk: uploading is not the difficult part | 22:07 |
| madrazr | ayushk: rendering it is | 22:08 |
| ayushk | madrazr: by rendering, do you mean downloading? | 22:09 |
| madrazr | ayushk: if we store only the file and expect mentors and org admins to download that file to review it for ranking/rating it is going to annoy a lot of people | 22:09 |
| madrazr | ayushk: no rendering means rendering :) | 22:09 |
| madrazr | ayushk: displaying the proposal content on the proposal review page | 22:09 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Is this still an opened issue(http://goo.gl/XPJ8GO) or is it going to be fixed by some other patch in the future ? | 22:10 |
| tpb | Title: Issue 2054 - soc - Bad Value error after submitting student proposal - SoC (Spice of Creation) - Google Project Hosting (at goo.gl) | 22:10 |
| ayushk | madrazr: We can embed a pdf viewer on the proposal review page. Something like this - https://www.msu.edu/~urban/sme865/resources/embedded_pdf.html | 22:12 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BCpy> (at www.msu.edu) | 22:12 |
| ayushk | madrazr: Then we ofcourse have to restrict only pdf uploads. | 22:13 |
| ayushk | what else can be problematic. | 22:13 |
| madrazr | RaulT: 1906 seems to be fixed. You can leave a comment there asking about it | 22:14 |
| madrazr | RaulT: also when you are linking to issues, please link the issue directly like https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1906 | 22:14 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BCq-> (at code.google.com) | 22:14 |
| madrazr | it is much easier to see what you are talking about | 22:14 |
| madrazr | RaulT: only if the links are a million lines long it makes sense to use a shortner | 22:15 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Ok, I was trying to get the message shorter | 22:15 |
| madrazr | RaulT: otherwise it is a waste of your time trying to shorten it | 22:15 |
| madrazr | RaulT: issue links are short enough | 22:15 |
| madrazr | if you remove all the colspec etc. part | 22:15 |
| madrazr | but thankfully we have a bot :) | 22:16 |
| madrazr | RaulT: Fix for 2054 is probably already on its way | 22:17 |
| madrazr | or is probably already in | 22:17 |
| madrazr | ayushk: for heavens sake don't do that | 22:17 |
| madrazr | if you do that I will stop using your website | 22:17 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Ok.Thanks | 22:18 |
| madrazr | ayushk: if you give me a 100x100 px box to read a huge PDF, #KTHXBYE | 22:18 |
| madrazr | ayushk: but anyway | 22:20 |
| madrazr | do you see my point? | 22:20 |
| ayushk | madrazr: Yes. | 22:20 |
| madrazr | ayushk: the most annoying thing for me ever ever on the web is scroll frame within a main page scroll | 22:21 |
| madrazr | ayushk: If there is something that I am asked to pick as bane of even GMail | 22:21 |
| madrazr | ayushk: or old GMail I mean | 22:21 |
| madrazr | ayushk: it was the scroll within scroll | 22:22 |
| madrazr | ayushk: nested-scroll | 22:22 |
| madrazr | ayushk: the new compose has gotten a lot better w.r.t. this usability problem | 22:22 |
| madrazr | ayushk: I want our proposals to render natively | 22:22 |
| madrazr | ayushk: or at least look native | 22:22 |
| madrazr | ayushk: even if you are embedding within something else or whatever | 22:23 |
| madrazr | ayushk: if it "appears" native, I am willing to listen | 22:23 |
| madrazr | otherwise, thanks but no thanks | 22:23 |
| ayushk | madrazr: I see why that's the best option now. | 22:24 |
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| madrazr | ayushk: we have had a student project(s) where the students tried to implement a sync between Google Docs and our proposal | 22:24 |
| madrazr | ayushk: however that code has not made it into our master | 22:25 |
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| madrazr | ayushk: and given that we have shipment tracking in this year | 22:25 |
| madrazr | it might be possible to revisit this | 22:25 |
| ayushk | madrazr: Yeah I had that too in my mind. | 22:25 |
| madrazr | we have had student project(s) | 22:25 |
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| ayushk | madrazr: So where does melange use file uploads. I see forms everywhere. | 22:27 |
| madrazr | ayushk: quite a few places already | 22:30 |
| madrazr | ayushk: student enrollment forms for GSoC | 22:30 |
| madrazr | ayushk: student tax forms for GSoC | 22:30 |
| madrazr | ayushk: Parental consent form for GCI | 22:30 |
| madrazr | and also student enrollment forms for GCI | 22:30 |
| madrazr | ayushk: GSoC successful student project uploads | 22:30 |
| madrazr | ayushk: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/content/list/google/gci2013 | 22:31 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BCrx> (at www.google-melange.com) | 22:31 |
| madrazr | those downloads | 22:31 |
| madrazr | ayushk: and this https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/downloads/list | 22:31 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BCs0> (at code.google.com) | 22:31 |
| madrazr | should move to Melange too | 22:31 |
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| ayushk | madrazr: Wow, there was also a hindi flyer for download. | 22:34 |
| madrazr | ayushk: why is it a wow? I would have been disappointed about calling ourselves a "global" program if there wasn't one | 22:35 |
| shikher | madrazr: since, u r the owner of issue 2000. I would like u to do a technical review of it. I have spent a lot of time and would love for it to go on master. :) http://goo.gl/mEcNiG | 22:35 |
| tpb | Title: Issue 2000 - soc - Program administrators should be able to view and change list of program administrators within "Program Settings" section of admin dashboard - SoC (Spice of Creation) - Google Project Hosting (at goo.gl) | 22:35 |
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| madrazr | shikher: not right now at least. I have quite a lot of things to do at work | 22:38 |
| madrazr | shikher: however, is this the most updated patch? | 22:38 |
| ayushk | madrazr: Oh, its just that often these things are in very few languages. The parental consent form is a static form. How do parents fill in those text fields? | 22:38 |
| madrazr | the very first thing I saw when I opened your commit was https://code.google.com/r/shikher111-melange-soc/source/diff?spec=svn957022b59184b537138572e0e1914ca6814f5e93&name=shikher-experiments&r=957022b59184b537138572e0e1914ca6814f5e93&format=side&path=/app/melange/logic/profile.py | 22:38 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BCsm> (at code.google.com) | 22:38 |
| madrazr | was import loggin line in the middle | 22:38 |
| madrazr | shikher: that was the very first thing I noticed | 22:39 |
| madrazr | shikher: or did Nathaniel miss that? | 22:39 |
| shikher | madrazr: nathaniel definitely caught that. | 22:39 |
| madrazr | shikher: then where is the updated patch? | 22:39 |
| madrazr | ayushk: students download it, print it, give it to their parents who complete it and sign it and students come back and upload it on Melange | 22:40 |
| shikher | madrazr: It's just tht I wanted a technical review, and then I would make a full new commit incorporating all changes together. | 22:40 |
| madrazr | ayushk: we don't expect parents to create profiles on Melange :) | 22:41 |
| madrazr | shikher: please keep the commit updated. So that it is easier for follow up reviews | 22:41 |
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| madrazr | shikher: if I had not asked you this, I would have definitely spent time writing comments on all those things that Nathaniel would have already seen | 22:41 |
| madrazr | or mentioned | 22:42 |
| shikher | madrazr: ok. its just tht I hate reseting the commit and forcing the next push. Is there a better way? | 22:42 |
| shikher | resetting* | 22:42 |
| madrazr | shikher: why do you hate it? :P | 22:42 |
| shikher | madrazr: by hate I meant dislike, hate is strong a word I guess. its because I used to work on multiple issues in the same branch. If I reset a commit, other files for other issues also get affected. | 22:45 |
| shikher | now, i hve started making new branch for every new issue | 22:45 |
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| shikher | nathaniel's handy advice :D | 22:46 |
| ayushk | madrazr: So is there a mechanism to upload files on this page - http://www.google-melange.com/gci/content/list/google/gci2013 or they are somewhere present in the codebase. | 22:46 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BCrx> (at www.google-melange.com) | 22:46 |
| ayushk | madrazr: So is there a mechanism to upload files on this page - http://www.google-melange.com/gci/content/list/google/gci2013 or they are somewhere present in the codebase. | 22:46 |
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| madrazr | shikher: that's how it should be | 22:50 |
| madrazr | shikher: git branches are cheap | 22:50 |
| madrazr | and they are cheap for a reason | 22:50 |
| madrazr | and there is a need for them to be cheap :) | 22:50 |
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| madrazr | shikher: I would have much loved to have a good code review tool | 22:51 |
| madrazr | than project hosting's semi-functional/semi-dysfunctional review system | 22:51 |
| madrazr | which would have solved your problem | 22:51 |
| madrazr | but anyway | 22:51 |
| shikher | madrazr: why? | 22:51 |
| madrazr | shikher: why for what? | 22:52 |
| shikher | madrazr: project hosting's semi-functional/semi-dysfunctional review system | 22:52 |
| madrazr | ayushk: there is yes | 22:52 |
| madrazr | ayushk: look at the source file I linked you to earlier | 22:52 |
| madrazr | shikher: what is why about it? | 22:53 |
| madrazr | shikher: you don't see how semi-functional it is? | 22:53 |
| madrazr | shikher: while you lose all the comments/reviews when you amend your commits? | 22:53 |
| madrazr | because it is tied to your git commit SHA | 22:53 |
| shikher | madrazr: I actually like it compared to submitting stupid patches and bundles. | 22:53 |
| madrazr | as opposed to the related work | 22:53 |
| madrazr | shikher: which is why it is semi-functional | 22:54 |
| shikher | madrazr: well yes there is tht. | 22:54 |
| madrazr | shikher: but very interestingly | 22:54 |
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| madrazr | Linux kernel community did this entirely in their email inbox for quite a long time | 22:54 |
| madrazr | they still do it I think | 22:54 |
| madrazr | not sure | 22:54 |
| madrazr | I know they don't have an issue tracker | 22:54 |
| madrazr | but don't know if they have a code review tool now | 22:54 |
| ayushk | madrazr: I also saw somewhere pdf forms. I mean those forms had text fields and you could type into those fields and create a XML file. then you can upload the xml file. | 22:55 |
| madrazr | ayushk: why would you do that? | 22:55 |
| madrazr | ayushk: what would that accomplish? | 22:55 |
| shikher | madrazr: haha, I know which community I do not want to be a part of. Well, I will update tht commit for Issue 2000, but please have a look at my work in the meantime, if u hve time. | 22:55 |
| shikher | madrazr: going to sleep. have a good morning. :) | 22:56 |
| madrazr | shikher: wait you don't want to write kernel code? That is like every hackers wet dream :P | 22:56 |
| madrazr | or so I though | 22:57 |
| madrazr | *thought :P | 22:57 |
| madrazr | when we were in college | 22:57 |
| gevaerts | Mailboxes don't lose reviews :) | 22:57 |
| madrazr | if we said we had an open source event nobody would turn up | 22:57 |
| madrazr | or well very few people would | 22:57 |
| shikher | madrazr: Well, maybe I will work on the development tools for them first and then contribute to kernel code. but I do like low level programming. | 22:57 |
| madrazr | but if we used the word kernel | 22:58 |
| madrazr | we would run out of lab space | 22:58 |
| madrazr | :P | 22:58 |
| madrazr | gevaerts: lol, true | 22:58 |
| madrazr | gevaerts: but it is still terrible | 22:58 |
| madrazr | gevaerts: but Oh well. It works for Linus Torvalds | 22:58 |
| gevaerts | It seems to work just fine for some projects :) | 22:58 |
| madrazr | so if you want to write kernel code it *should* work for you | 22:58 |
| madrazr | right | 22:58 |
| madrazr | :P | 22:59 |
| shikher | madrazr: this time I know the name. :D | 22:59 |
| madrazr | gevaerts: agreed | 22:59 |
| ayushk | madrazr: The parent consent form is a hand-written form. So it must be evaluated manually. Rather, it could be done by a machine if we have a XML file. | 22:59 |
| madrazr | shikher: good luck convincing Linus | 22:59 |
| madrazr | shikher: you may first want to read this http://lwn.net/2000/0824/a/esr-sharing.php3 | 23:00 |
| madrazr | before attempting that :) | 23:00 |
| tpb | Title: a/esr-sharing (at lwn.net) | 23:00 |
| madrazr | where Eric Raymond talks about the "curse of the gifted" | 23:00 |
| madrazr | shikher: or you may end up hearing something like this https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/3/8/495 | 23:01 |
| tpb | Title: LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [PATCH] sysfs: Optionally count subdirectories to support buggy applications (at lkml.org) | 23:01 |
| madrazr | the last para | 23:01 |
| madrazr | :P | 23:01 |
| madrazr | ayushk: I am still not sure what that accomplishes | 23:03 |
| madrazr | ayushk: how does it matter if it is XML or PDF? | 23:03 |
| shikher | madrazr: Linus was a good man. thinking for the better. | 23:03 |
| madrazr | if all we store is a manually signed document | 23:03 |
| madrazr | shikher: may be, I can't assert either ways | 23:04 |
| madrazr | but what I can assert is Linus is a dictator :P | 23:04 |
| madrazr | but that has done some good for the kernel project | 23:04 |
| madrazr | anyway, coffee time | 23:05 |
| shikher | madrazr: I am starting to think, I do not have the same image of Linus as you. you must have done ur research. I will do mine later, mind is tired, g2g2 sleep. please comment on my proposal ideas. I have to start working on my proposal. | 23:05 |
| madrazr | shikher: fair enough | 23:05 |
| madrazr | good night | 23:05 |
| shikher | madrazr: have a good coffee break. :P | 23:06 |
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| madrazr | wait | 23:06 |
| madrazr | were they two the same people? :P | 23:07 |
| madrazr | ;-) | 23:07 |
| madrazr | *the same person | 23:07 |
| gevaerts | Handy! | 23:07 |
| * gevaerts wants to be able to review his own code too! | 23:08 | |
| olly | madrazr: looks like a web irc client | 23:10 |
| olly | so might just be two users of that coming from behind the same NAT firewall | 23:11 |
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