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| orcuna | SRabbelier: i think i found the issue that i want to prepare patch for | 00:18 |
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| SRabbelier | orcuna: do share | 00:20 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: it's #320 documents should offer templating features | 00:20 |
| orcuna | does it contain only documents? | 00:20 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: Melange documents | 00:20 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: such as http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs | 00:20 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8g$$> (at www.google-melange.com) | 00:20 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: but in particular those used for other purposes :) | 00:21 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: and is it enough just using template variables (but choosen ones) | 00:21 |
| orcuna | do we need to provite any tags (so any filters) | 00:22 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: you can probably reuse Django | 00:22 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: just put the document through Django's template's facility | 00:23 |
| orcuna | but that processes all tags then. this isn't a problem isn't it? | 00:24 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: django is very specific about what it'll accept | 00:25 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: only stuff like {{ some_variable }} | 00:26 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: that's not likely to occur in any document ;) | 00:26 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: besides, this is a feature intended for program administrators | 00:26 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: ok then :) | 00:27 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: are documents created through web iface? | 00:27 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: yeah, do you have a local instance running yet? | 00:28 |
| orcuna | yes, but i couldn't figured out views for it yet | 00:28 |
| orcuna | i will look for them | 00:28 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: did you run seed_db? | 00:28 |
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| orcuna | yes, it creates some initial data but not any documents (i think) | 00:29 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: there's one :) | 00:29 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: http://localhost:8080/gsoc/document/show/site/site/home | 00:29 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: replace show with edit | 00:29 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: i missed it :) | 00:30 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: np | 00:30 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes, so entity's content attribute will go through Django's template system with some context on the fly, and result will be sent to the final "show" template | 00:33 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: you got it perfectly | 00:33 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: you know much Django? | 00:33 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: (good first impression :D) | 00:33 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: thank you :) yes, i developed an application on AppEngine with Django. i also worked for Pardus project this summer, contributed developing of Pardus's official community web application http://www.ozgurlukicin.com | 00:35 |
| tpb | Title: Özgürlük için... (at www.ozgurlukicin.com) | 00:35 |
| SRabbelier | most curious title | 00:36 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: Turkish, says Google? | 00:36 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: sorry, i couldn't get what you mean :) | 00:37 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: the language of the site? | 00:38 |
| orcuna | yes, i'm from Turkey, and Pardus is a Turkish distro :) | 00:38 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: ah! makes sense :) | 00:39 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: so is that site running on AppEngine, or...? | 00:39 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: Pardus also contributed GSoC two times before | 00:39 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: no, it's not | 00:40 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: they did? as mentoring orgs? | 00:40 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: what was the GAE project you worked on? | 00:40 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes it was mentoring organization at 2008 and 2009 | 00:42 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: did you participate in GSoC before? | 00:42 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: it wasn't an open source project. it was for private use . it lives on http://famer2.appspot.com | 00:43 |
| tpb | Title: FaMer Online - Fatura Merkezi (at famer2.appspot.com) | 00:43 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: no, i didn't | 00:43 |
| SRabbelier | ah, what'd it do? | 00:43 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: it was being used as a bill payment software for some customers in Turkey. | 00:44 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 00:45 | |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: sounds like you know your chops :) | 00:45 |
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| orcuna | SRabbelier: thanks :) i really like Python and Django, but i try develop myself on Linux too (not stuck on just web) | 00:47 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: i also contribute Pardus for CoMaK project this year (multiple desktop installitions) | 00:47 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: we've been ported Pardus to LXDE, Enlightenment, FluxBox, XFCE and Gnome | 00:48 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: sounds good; any particular reason you're interested in working on Melange this summer? | 00:48 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: impressive :D | 00:48 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: i really appreciate what Google does with GSoC, bring together newbie students and open source projects. i was just wondering if Melange can be used for other purpuses. I visited GSoC 2011 page and see that Melange is being working to serve for more general purposes for other organizations and i thought this is a great idea, and i wanted to contribute Melange with my best effort | 00:52 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: neat ;) | 00:52 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: lookign forward to seeing your patch ^^ | 00:53 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: don't hesistate to ask questions if you get stuck on anything | 00:53 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: thank you :) | 00:54 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes,i'd better to start get off the ground | 00:55 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: thanks for replies | 00:55 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: so are you in .tr at the moment? | 00:56 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes, i am | 00:58 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: isn't it late there? (I'm in .nl, it's late here :P) | 00:59 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes it's 4:00 am | 01:00 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: ouch :) | 01:00 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: night owl | 01:00 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: i'm a nightcrawler :) | 01:00 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes, you too :) | 01:00 |
| SRabbelier | it's only 3am here :D | 01:01 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: you can catch me if i fall asleep :D | 01:02 |
| * SRabbelier chuckles | 01:03 | |
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| yffbrave | hi | 04:10 |
| yffbrave | I'm applying GSoC and I made a mistake to submit the same proposal three times, but I can't find how to delete, can anybody tell me how to delete a proposal? | 04:11 |
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| k0p | folks, just to be sure. Students can edit the proposasl during this period after submit under melange right? | 09:48 |
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| Taggnostr | hello | 10:01 |
| Taggnostr | I'm searching for an application I made last year for gsoc 2010, but I can't find it on melange | 10:02 |
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| k0p | Taggnostr: try change the year by hand | 10:09 |
| k0p | on URL | 10:09 |
| Taggnostr | I tried here: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/dashboard/google/gsoc2010 but the list is empty | 10:11 |
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| tpb | Title: Google Accounts (at socghop.appspot.com) | 10:11 |
| Taggnostr | k0p, on that page I see a list of proposals and requests, but they are both empty (even if I'm logged in) | 10:12 |
| k0p | Taggnostr: no idea, sorry | 10:17 |
| Taggnostr | ok, thanks anyway | 10:18 |
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| Talad | SRabbelier: Hi | 11:36 |
| Talad | in the proposals list in melange, is there a way to list the proposals by ranking? | 11:37 |
| Talad | also is the ranking only those 5 stars? | 11:37 |
| Talad | it's hard to create a ranking of students just with 5 levels | 11:39 |
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| SRabbelier | Talad: notice the "max stars" setting in the org admin dashboard | 12:18 |
| Talad | SRabbelier: cannot find it | 12:19 |
| Talad | is that in the "My dashboard" page? | 12:20 |
| SRabbelier | s/dashboard/profile/ | 12:20 |
| SRabbelier | sorry | 12:20 |
| SRabbelier | org profiel I meant | 12:20 |
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| Talad | SRabbelier: found, thanks | 12:27 |
| SRabbelier | Talad: cool | 12:27 |
| Talad | max 12 | 12:27 |
| Talad | should be ok | 12:27 |
| Talad | is there a way to list the proposals by ranking? | 12:28 |
| SRabbelier | Talad: not yet, but Lennard is on it | 12:28 |
| Talad | ok | 12:28 |
| Talad | also the "Assign mentor" on the proposal page shown an empty list | 12:28 |
| Talad | but we have mentors approved | 12:28 |
| SRabbelier | Talad: they need to say "I wish to mentor" first | 12:29 |
| SRabbelier | Talad: will update the help text | 12:29 |
| Talad | ok | 12:31 |
| |Kev| | Oh for goodness sake. How many people are going to join in the "Oh, it's changed, I don't like it" rant without offering anything constructive to improve matters? #@#)*(@&#)&@)#(*&# | 12:34 |
| |Kev| | That is all. | 12:34 |
| |Kev| | SRabbelier et al.: Keep up the good work. | 12:34 |
| SRabbelier | |Kev|: thanks | 12:36 |
| SRabbelier | |Kev|: and, I agree, balefires will be forthcoming for those | 12:37 |
| |Kev| | I don't like everything about the new site either, but I've tried to at least suggest ways of 'fixing' them. | 12:37 |
| SRabbelier | |Kev|: exactly | 12:38 |
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| pacman | Hi, I would like to do one of the projects suggested my melange for GSoC | 13:12 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: go on | 13:13 |
| pacman | the one that suggests changing the whole GCI architechture makeover | 13:16 |
| pacman | to be precise, porting GCI to the views architecture and giving the dashboeard functionality to users and also building a data seeder for GCI | 13:18 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 13:19 | |
| SRabbelier | pacman: you worked with AppEngine before? | 13:19 |
| pacman | yeah | 13:21 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: go on | 13:22 |
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| pacman | I've built an online linux event (/bin/bash) for the technical festival of my college, using the appengine | 13:27 |
| SRabbelier | oh? | 13:28 |
| SRabbelier | how did it work? | 13:28 |
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| pacman | The event basically was an online questionairre | 13:33 |
| pacman | wherein the interface provides the students with a set of objective questions and would receive anwers from the users. | 13:35 |
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| pacman | and the questions could be chosen from different levels of difficulty | 13:46 |
| pacman | and out of the 200 questions that were put into it, 20 questions were selected from it in a random fashion | 13:46 |
| pacman | the link for the event: http://excel2010bash.appspot.com | 13:47 |
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| tpb | Title: EXCEL2010 MEC SlashBinSlashBash Contest (at excel2010bash.appspot.com) | 13:47 |
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| pacman | SRabbelier: would love to hear what you think about it. | 13:58 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: thanks for the ping, hadn't noticed you replied | 13:58 |
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| pacman | :) | 13:59 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: what UI framework did you use? | 13:59 |
| pacman | the UI was built purely using html, css and jquery to build the dynamic elements. | 14:02 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: so you included html in the python directly? | 14:02 |
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| |Kev| | Unimportant, but if someone happens to be near the code anyway - there's currently no 'fetching' message if you refresh a view. | 14:05 |
| |Kev| | That is of no practical importance to me. | 14:05 |
| |Kev| | Just mentioning :) | 14:05 |
| pacman | I've used the webpp module which includes django's templating system | 14:08 |
| pacman | and so the htm code can be kept in a separate file | 14:09 |
| pacman | *html | 14:09 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: ah, that's fine, so you know how things work | 14:10 |
| SRabbelier | |Kev|: ah, nice catch | 14:10 |
| pacman | thanks | 14:12 |
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| pacman | I've partnered with Sarath Lakshman, my colleague(winner of GSoC thrice) in doing different projects. link: www.sarathlakshman.com | 14:26 |
| pacman | and different projects on my own | 14:27 |
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| SRabbelier | pacman: what interests you about Melange? | 14:32 |
| pacman | basically it's about the kind of projects that melange offers | 14:37 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: such as? :) | 14:37 |
| pacman | in the sense the projects have python, and django written all over it | 14:38 |
| pacman | and python is my default coding language | 14:39 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 14:39 | |
| pacman | and I feel that this can turn out to be a very good way to sharpen my knowledge about python, django and the appengine | 14:41 |
| pacman | and I feel that this would definitely be a very good way to spend my vacation | 14:44 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: I would be inclined to agree :) | 14:47 |
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| pacman | I came to know about Melange from my friend Sarath who happens to be a friend of madrazr and the quest led ultimately has led me to you | 14:52 |
| pacman | *has ultimetely led me to you | 14:53 |
| pacman | and also the fact that my contribution will be to the development of the GSoC site itself, that definitely is something | 14:55 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: ah :) | 14:58 |
| pacman | the two other projects, exporting to google docs and also testing looks doable to me(on condition that I'll get you as my mentor :) ) | 15:03 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: haha, why me? :P | 15:04 |
| pacman | best explanation is the patience you've shown in talking to a complete stranger | 15:08 |
| pacman | I've done my bit of googling about you | 15:08 |
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| pacman | and I'm positive that you will definitely be an awesome mentor for my project | 15:10 |
| pacman | considering the way you've interacted with me now | 15:10 |
| * SRabbelier laughs | 15:10 | |
| SRabbelier | well, the rest of our contributors are good mentors as well ;) | 15:11 |
| pacman | but I dont know them yet.. | 15:11 |
| |Kev| | You'd have to provide cookies. | 15:12 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: you know madrazr right? :P | 15:13 |
| pacman | my friend does.. and from what I've heard he's awesome | 15:13 |
| pacman | I need someone who can give me constructive criticism and can also hear me out. | 15:16 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: I expect that from all team members :) | 15:17 |
| pacman | right | 15:17 |
| pacman | so then I find these three projects doable.. | 15:18 |
| pacman | what do you suggest? | 15:18 |
| pacman | which one means more to melange? | 15:18 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: we'll definitely want to get a new-and-improved Code-In module :) | 15:21 |
| pacman | both those projects dont have you as a mentor on it.. | 15:26 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: They have Madhu though, and we all co-mentor all projects :) | 15:26 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: it's just that Madhu knows most about the code-in module | 15:27 |
| pacman | ok | 15:27 |
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| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: hello :) can you please change my email address? my link_id is slingshot316 | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: haven't I already done that? | 15:28 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: no :( | 15:29 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: what should it be changed to? | 15:29 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: it is [email protected] can you please change it to [email protected] | 15:30 |
| pacman | by the way.. sorry for not introducing myself.. I'm Paul Thomas, 3rd year at Model Engineering Cllege, Kerala , India | 15:31 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: np :) | 15:31 |
| pacman | so then how should I start working on it now? | 15:32 |
| pacman | i have to create the project proposal for it | 15:33 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: done | 15:34 |
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| SRabbelier | pacman: I suggest you pick one of the new high-priority feature from the issue list and submit a patch for it | 15:34 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: thank you, will just check | 15:34 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: sweet, thank you very much :) | 15:35 |
| pacman | should that be done during the period frm april to may? | 15:36 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: np | 15:36 |
| pacman | the iterim period that we have before the actual coding starts.. | 15:36 |
| pacman | our university exams'll be starting this week | 15:39 |
| pacman | and that'll end by april 25th.. | 15:40 |
| pacman | after that I have all the time in the world | 15:40 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: well, no, it's so that we know that you are set up | 15:42 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: it's a filtering process for the application period :) | 15:42 |
| pacman | oh.. | 15:42 |
| pacman | ok | 15:42 |
| pacman | so then that can leave me in a very tight spot, | 15:43 |
| pacman | the proposal, exams and a patch all in the very same week | 15:44 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: that's why ideally student contact us before the proposal period starts :) | 15:51 |
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| pacman | yeah.. my mistake.. | 15:53 |
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| SRabbelier | pacman: not much use crying over split milk :) | 15:55 |
| pacman | so then what can be done? | 15:55 |
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| SRabbelier | pacman: submit an awesome application, demonstrate that you're awesome, even if you can't send in a patch as illustration | 15:56 |
| pacman | yea will do my best.. | 15:57 |
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| pacman | it was great talking to u. | 16:04 |
| SRabbelier | pacman: looking forward to seeing your application | 16:06 |
| pacman | yeah.. will work on that.. | 16:07 |
| slingshot316 | madrazr: hello :) | 16:09 |
| slingshot316 | madrazr: I have just submitted my proposal to Melange :) | 16:10 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: I just submitted my proposal to Melange, please take a look at it :) | 16:10 |
| SRabbelier | slingshot316: cool | 16:11 |
| slingshot316 | SRabbelier: :) | 16:12 |
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| |Kev| | SRabbelier: A definite +1 (or 12*) rating for the request for admins to see how people scored :) | 16:42 |
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| SRabbelier | |Kev|: :) | 16:44 |
| |Kev| | No real rush, but I can't see how we'll reasonably deal without that, come voting time (without asking mentors to duplicate their votes also in comments). | 16:46 |
| SRabbelier | |Kev|: sure | 16:47 |
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| harlan | where do I edit the "tags" for the organization? I'm not seeing it on the main "edit" page | 17:22 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: looks like we lost the field | 17:41 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: in the edit page that is | 17:42 |
| harlan | 'k, thx... | 17:42 |
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| SRabbelier | harlan: will add it back asap :) | 17:46 |
| LetterRip | SRabbelier: just another +1 to allow old style scoring | 17:46 |
| LetterRip | didn't want to deluge you with more emails on it :) | 17:46 |
| SRabbelier | LetterRip: *nod* | 17:46 |
| harlan | appreciated - whenever it happens is fine with me. I'm listening to cdibona at #NASAoss... | 17:46 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: nice :) | 17:47 |
| SRabbelier | LetterRip: appreciated | 17:47 |
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| iamaregee | hey google appengine works with python 2.6 or jus with 2.5 ?? | 17:55 |
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| sumitk85 | Hi | 17:58 |
| SRabbelier | iamaregee: it works with python 2.5-2.7 | 18:01 |
| SRabbelier | iamaregee: but on the server it's running on python 2.5 | 18:02 |
| iamaregee | okay... | 18:02 |
| SRabbelier | iamaregee: so don't use any features from python 2.6 and up | 18:02 |
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| Betelgeuse | Any hopes of getting http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=818 reopened? I have the UI butchering my name currently. | 18:31 |
| tpb | Title: Issue 818 - soc - Make shipment name required and remove ASCII restriction from first/last name - SoC (Spice of Creation) - Google Project Hosting (at code.google.com) | 18:31 |
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| pacman | madrazr1: Hi | 18:37 |
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| madrazr | pacman: Heya! | 18:37 |
| pacman | madrazr: Sir, I would like to do the GSoC project to build a better GCI module | 18:39 |
| pacman | madrazr: I'm a colleague and friend of Sarath Lakshman, creator of the SLYnux distro and also winner of three GSoC's | 18:41 |
| pacman | I've partnered with him in doing different projects | 18:41 |
| pacman | and it is through him that I got to hear about you and Melange | 18:41 |
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| malex | Why is the drop down menu for mentor assignment empty? | 19:17 |
| malex | Oh, got it - can't 'force' someone to mentor - they have to click on the 'wish to mentor' button first... Never mind. | 19:18 |
| SRabbelier | malex: :) | 19:19 |
| malex | SRabbelier: what good is being an admin if I can't whip them mentors around ;) | 19:20 |
| SRabbelier | malex: heeh | 19:20 |
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| eoc | SRabbeIier: just wanted to thank you for your awesome work on the new UI :-) | 19:25 |
| eoc | guess the people than now claim "unusable crap" are exactly the same that told everybody how outdated and uncomfortable previous one was | 19:26 |
| eoc | sure, some valid points, but overall reaction feels too negative | 19:26 |
| SRabbelier | eoc: thank you, a lot | 19:29 |
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| ArthurLiu | soooooo, we're basically allowed to have browsers load an arbitrary URL in an img tag upon visiting GSoC's main page? | 20:06 |
| ArthurLiu | good thing all admins are trustworthy :) | 20:06 |
| ArthurLiu | (logos are loaded by URL) | 20:07 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: correct | 20:09 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: what are you going to do with an image tag url? | 20:09 |
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| gevaerts | SRabbelier: collect independent gsoc statistics of course :) | 20:12 |
| ArthurLiu | to be complete, it's already possible to embed <img> in proposals and org descriptions, but this is on the front page | 20:13 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: yup | 20:13 |
| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: and orgs that game the system lose their slots | 20:14 |
| gevaerts | ArthurLiu: any funny games would mean no more gsoc for that org forever I would expect | 20:14 |
| Triskelios | is the maximum size of the new images are 65x65 or 64x64? I notice there are is a 90x40 image in the current lineup.. | 20:15 |
| SRabbelier | Triskelios: 65x65, why would it be 64x64? | 20:16 |
| ArthurLiu | nicer binary representation | 20:17 |
| SRabbelier | Triskelios: notice alos that the current lineup has smaller ones too | 20:17 |
| Triskelios | text below the field says "Please ensure that the image you provide is smaller than 65px65px.", which suggests the maximum is 64x64 | 20:17 |
| SRabbelier | Triskelios: sure, for you it's 64x64 | 20:20 |
| Triskelios | are you interpreting "smaller than" differently? | 20:23 |
| gevaerts | 65x64 is smaller than 64x64 :) | 20:24 |
| gevaerts | bah | 20:24 |
| gevaerts | 65x64 is smaller than 65x65 :) | 20:24 |
| gevaerts | And what about 32x128? | 20:24 |
| * SRabbelier balefires you all | 20:25 | |
| ArthurLiu | what norm are you using? what if I want to use a seminorm? | 20:25 |
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| SRabbelier | ArthurLiu: norm? | 20:27 |
| gevaerts | I'll use *really* small pixels, so I can do 128x128 | 20:27 |
| mmadia | re 1135 & action required. is a 150 x 50 logo acceptable? | 20:29 |
| mmadia | e.g., http://svn.haiku-os.org/haiku/haiku/trunk/data/artwork/HAIKU%20logo%20-%20white%20on%20black%20-%20tiny.png | 20:29 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8gVZ> (at svn.haiku-os.org) | 20:29 |
| Triskelios | gevaerts: my reading is "largest dimension", but you can certainly go with "bounded area"... area alone would lead to 1x4224 being valid | 20:29 |
| ArthurLiu | "If your logo doesn't fit in this box, then you cannot bring it on the plane!" | 20:31 |
| gevaerts | But it's just a plain logo! | 20:31 |
| * SRabbelier tries | 20:32 | |
| SRabbelier | mmadia: it's scaled down to 65x21 | 20:32 |
| SRabbelier | gevaerts: lol | 20:32 |
| Triskelios | ArthurLiu: exactly what I was picturing for a bounding box | 20:32 |
| SRabbelier | you people are smart enough to figure this out | 20:32 |
| iamaregee | hey I am unable to run melange... :( | 20:33 |
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| iamaregee | need some help..!! | 20:33 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: hi any hopes of getting issue 818 reopened? | 20:34 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: no | 20:36 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: hence why I closed it | 20:36 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: Your last comment is wrong. | 20:36 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: It currently forces me my name on comments to applications to ASCII | 20:36 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: There is no way to write my name in ASCII that would be pronounced correctly | 20:37 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: that's an different problem | 20:37 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: e.g. "Comment form displays first name + last name instead of public name" | 20:37 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: and what else is the public info first + last name used for? | 20:38 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: it shouldn't be used anywhere | 20:39 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: why ask it then? | 20:39 |
| SRabbelier | I have a half-cooked fix for that outstanding | 20:39 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: it's used for shipping? | 20:39 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: There is a shipping name field | 20:39 |
| iamaregee | this is the error i am facing while trying to run melange http://paste.pound-python.org/show/4726/ | 20:39 |
| tpb | Title: Paste #4726 | LodgeIt! (at paste.pound-python.org) | 20:39 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: not everybody fills that in | 20:39 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: remove public name and make shipping name mandatory | 20:40 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: That will tell people that the name will not show up in the site | 20:40 |
| SRabbelier | iamaregee: pastebin the contents of build/app.yaml please | 20:40 |
| iamaregee | hmm... | 20:41 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: or just remove the whole shipping stuff and make the current one that is already required the shipping | 20:41 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: indeed | 20:41 |
| SRabbelier | although | 20:41 |
| SRabbelier | that doesn't work | 20:41 |
| SRabbelier | since students might have a different legal address for their cards | 20:41 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: is there a ticket for showing public name in comments? | 20:41 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: At least you could add a comment on the form that the public info is not actually public info | 20:42 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: no there isn't | 20:42 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: it is public info though | 20:42 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: If it's public info then UTF8 just isn't acceptable | 20:43 |
| Betelgeuse | s/UTF8/ASCII/ | 20:43 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: I see your point | 20:43 |
| SRabbelier | I'll take it up with Carol | 20:43 |
| Betelgeuse | There is a world outside the US | 20:43 |
| gevaerts | Where? | 20:44 |
| * gevaerts looks around | 20:44 | |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1165 | 20:45 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8gW2> (at code.google.com) | 20:45 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: please stop assuming it has anything to do with being in the US | 20:45 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: it's offensive | 20:45 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: Because of the US we are stuck with ASCII in general | 20:46 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: my remark stands | 20:47 |
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| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: And it isn't offensive that I can't use my real name? | 20:47 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: the way you've been addressing me doesn't help your case much now does it? | 20:47 |
| Betelgeuse | I would say the communication isn't working. | 20:48 |
| Betelgeuse | It should be clear that I am neither a native English speaker and from a different cultural background. | 20:49 |
| gevaerts | Betelgeuse: have you considered the possibility that some of the people involved here are also not Americans or native English speakers? | 20:49 |
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| Betelgeuse | gevaerts: more than likely | 20:50 |
| Betelgeuse | gevaerts: But to be offended by the comment you would need to be American | 20:50 |
| gevaerts | Betelgeuse: good one | 20:50 |
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| Betelgeuse | Here that is used in good spirit. | 20:51 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: hi, i've created a patch for documents to support templating features | 20:52 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: i want to show you before i submit | 20:52 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: whoah, nice work! | 20:52 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: just send it as a patch to the mailing list, where we'll review it | 20:53 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: dont' be shy :) | 20:53 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: ok :) but i want to ask first, i added {{program_name}} as variable | 20:54 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: what else can be added? | 20:54 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: i mean as variable | 20:54 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: ah, that depends on the situation where we'll use the functionality I suppose; I assume it's just passing in a context? | 20:55 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes. so i submit to mail-list and discuss it there? | 20:56 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: sounds good, go for it | 20:56 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: To sum up I didn't mean to offend anyone and all efforts to fix the thing are appreciated. | 20:56 |
| Betelgeuse | Now that it's acknowledged that there is an issue. | 20:57 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: ok, thank you | 20:57 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: sorry if I snapped at you | 20:57 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: We've been getting a lot of flak on this and there isn't much we can do about most of it | 20:58 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: modulo the things you mentioned | 20:58 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: Well the expectations for websites are pretty high these days. | 20:58 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: is it any problem if i share it via pastebin.com instead of adding as attachment. (for easier review) | 20:58 |
| Betelgeuse | SRabbelier: Especially in this kind of a crowd. | 20:59 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: both inline and attach it please, so we can reply inline | 21:00 |
| SRabbelier | Betelgeuse: no lie | 21:00 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes, thanks | 21:00 |
| Betelgeuse | thanks and good night everyone | 21:04 |
| Betelgeuse | or whatever time it is :) | 21:06 |
| gevaerts | It's night here too :) | 21:06 |
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| iamaregee | hey i tried generating app.yaml form script/gen_app_yaml.py local-dev | 21:24 |
| iamaregee | then running with thirdparty/google_Appengine/dev_appserver.py build ...thig gave error similar to this only http://paste.pound-python.org/show/4726/ | 21:24 |
| tpb | Title: Paste #4726 | LodgeIt! (at paste.pound-python.org) | 21:24 |
| SRabbelier | iamaregee: I already replied to you | 21:25 |
| iamaregee | ya but whn i am running melange on localhost.. | 21:25 |
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| SRabbelier | iamaregee: I asked you to pastebin the contents of build/app.yaml | 21:33 |
| iamaregee | hmm.. | 21:34 |
| iamaregee | when i used scripts/gen_app_yaml.py it created a app.yaml file in app directory | 21:35 |
| SRabbelier | iamaregee: it gets symlinked if you run bin/paver build | 21:35 |
| iamaregee | and giving the command .... /dev_appserver.py app/ starts the server | 21:36 |
| iamaregee | so right now melange is working on the local host.. | 21:37 |
| SRabbelier | iamaregee: ok | 21:39 |
| iamaregee | but i suppose this is not the way it is supposed to be executed ...comparing with getting started guide.. | 21:40 |
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| SRabbelier | orcuna: how did you figure out so fast only system staff is allowed to create documents? ;) | 21:53 |
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| orcuna | SRabbelier: i remember you told me something like that yesterday :) | 22:10 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: how clever of me to tell you | 22:10 |
| SRabbelier | (and then forget) | 22:10 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: do you think i should develop it more, add e-mail templating feature? | 22:18 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: why don't you take on the related issue about that? | 22:19 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: its normal to forget as you talk to many students a day :) | 22:19 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: about sending student emails | 22:19 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: your patch would get used in the next few weeks ;) | 22:19 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: ~5k students will benefit from your efforts! :D | 22:19 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: that sounds good :) do you mean take on issue #320 ? | 22:21 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: link? | 22:22 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=320 or start a new one for this? | 22:22 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8gYe> (at code.google.com) | 22:22 |
| SRabbelier | most kind | 22:22 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: that's fine | 22:23 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: ok, i will take on #320. i didn't used google code before, will i have permission for this (to change status, owner)? | 22:28 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: I can make you a contributor | 22:29 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: what is your google account? | 22:29 |
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| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes, it's [email protected] | 22:30 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: added | 22:31 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: try | 22:31 |
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| orcuna | SRabbelier: have you checked me for edit issues permission? | 22:33 |
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| SRabbelier | orcuna: I was hoping all contributors get them, will check the docs, sec | 22:34 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: oh, ok | 22:36 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: try nao | 22:38 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: it's now :) | 22:40 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: excellent | 22:41 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: feel free to claim the other issue as well and mark it as started | 22:41 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: ok, will my patch for "templating documention" be aplied yet? | 22:44 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: there's a style issue | 22:47 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: ops correct, i will correct it and submit it to the related issue then | 22:48 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: sure | 22:49 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: i have a school work for tomorrow and i will turn back to work as soon as possible, thanks for now :) | 22:50 |
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| Talad | hi SRabbelier: should the logo image of the org have a trasparent background or white? | 23:10 |
| SRabbelier | Talad: either works, it's displayed on a white background | 23:10 |
| Talad | ok | 23:11 |
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| Talad | SRabbelier: submitted it now, should the images rotate already? | 23:22 |
| SRabbelier | Talad: see mentor list | 23:22 |
| SRabbelier | Talad: every 30m | 23:22 |
| Talad | ok, thanks | 23:22 |
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