Friday, 2019-08-02

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AVHQxfxf-phone got it now00:15
AVHQi see a sponsor loop00:15
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AVHQxfxf-phone is that you or do i need to panic00:23
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CarlFKxfxf-phone: matrix is a great android irc client (but can be a little laggy sometimes)00:29
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* tumbleweed waves from Brazil00:34
AVHQayy tumbleweed!00:39
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AVHQpyconau-c33 whats up with your speaker audio? did something drop out?00:45
oheydrewIs it gone or low?00:45
xfxf-laptopremember all rooms to wear your headphones at all times00:45
AVHQit was gone, but it -might- have been my gstreamer being wonky00:46
AVHQit's back now00:46
pyconau-c33xfxf pushed up the audio in c33 just before this talk, now there is a very slight higher pitched feedback at certain points.00:48
xfxf-laptopi'll come fix it...00:51
xfxf-laptopall rooms: if you think the volume in the recording is low, use the VU meter to judge that, not the headphones....00:52
oheydrewAVHQ: Any more dropout issues in C3?00:56
oheydrew3.3*00:56
AVHQpyconau-c33 neg00:56
AVHQer00:56
AVHQoheydrew none that i can see00:56
oheydrewnoice00:57
pyconau-c33c33 never had any dropout issues ?00:57
pyconau-c33(As far as I knew)00:57
AVHQit was my end00:57
oheydrewIt looks like it might have been a monitoring issue in AVHQ :)00:57
AVHQgstreamer doesnt like macs00:57
pyconau-c33Okay, got it.00:58
xfxf-laptopCarlFK: you around?01:13
xfxf-laptopi've forgotten my sudo password on the veyepar server :P01:14
AVHQpyconau-c34-c35 youre echoing really bad01:20
xfxf-phoneAVHQ: which room reported the buzzing?01:23
xfxf-phoneand yes,the mic was placed incorrectly01:23
xfxf-phonewait ignore that I am totally confused. Coming back01:24
xfxf-laptopall: absolutely critical you place the mic correctly AND do a test before the speaker starts.  we can't fix bad audio in post01:29
xfxf-laptopalso eyeball the presenter before they start, a small fraction decide to re-clip their mic after you test01:30
pycau-cbxfxf-phone: I think the microphone on the speaker in cockle bay has flipped it's attached to the top of his t-shirt, but it looks like it is now inside his shirt :(01:30
xfxf-laptophow bad is it?  if drew is in there, it's his call how he resolves this01:30
pycau-cbxfxf-laptop: he's not here right now01:30
xfxf-laptopokay, oheydrew ping above01:30
pyconau-c36o701:31
xfxf-laptopall: apparently two rooms are gonna flip schedule for a talk or two.  stay in the rooms you're assigned to now, just mark this appropriately on the sheet (that it's another miniconf and the real title/author)01:33
pyconau-c33xfxf: Should the usbc hdmi adapters work on macbooks? Ours didn't.01:54
pyconau-c33We're good now, we borrowed one from the miniconf organiser.01:54
pyconau-c33It was a blank screen with the adapater up the back, and the speaker's adapter gave us lots of noise (hsync issues?).01:55
xfxf-laptopit should, are you 100% it was plugged in properly?02:02
xfxf-laptop& did you try unplugging and replugging?02:02
pyconau-c33Yes, two different ports.02:04
pyconau-c33Most likely the case though.02:04
CarlFKxfxf-laptop: which box is that ?02:07
oheydrewSome of the non-apple brand adapters can be a little dodgy sometimes... I don't think all of ours are legit branded :/02:08
xfxf-laptopCarlFK: the cloud one. all good, I got in02:10
xfxf-laptop@oheydrew they're not, but they all work, or at least have previously02:10
CarlFKxfxf-laptop: don't restart the db - it will break my encoder02:10
xfxf-laptopCarlFK: already did about two hours ago sorry02:13
xfxf-laptopalso there's a django db backend you can use that won't try to keep a sustained connection open to pgsql02:13
xfxf-laptopso it'll survive restarts02:14
xfxf-laptopthe connection pooling one iirc02:14
CarlFKwhat are you doing?02:14
xfxf-laptopCarlFK: i logged in and restarted it as I had to add our IP to pg_hba.sql02:14
xfxf-laptopotherwise we're blocked and can't do ahything...02:15
xfxf-laptoper, pg_hba.conf or whatever it is02:15
CarlFKweird - my encoder is still going02:15
CarlFKyou can ssh tunnel to it, which is an extra step, but won't .. not break my stuff02:16
pyconau-c33(IIRC you can reload to load the new pg_hba)02:17
CarlFKmaybe thats why my side is still going02:18
pyconau-c33Or your code is more resilient then you give it credit for.02:20
xfxf-laptop@CarlFK by your encoder still going you mean it finished a job, wrote it to the db ok, and grabbed anohter?02:21
CarlFKxfxf-laptop: yeah02:21
xfxf-laptopIIRC it'll encode fine, it's just when it tries to write to the db and the TCP connection it had open has gone, it barfs02:21
xfxf-laptopah, right, there you go - maybe you did change the db backend then?02:21
xfxf-laptopi think the connection pooling one handles TCP drops, it'll go and create a new TCP connection if the existing one has died02:21
xfxf-laptop(it's how you run the thing in environments like AWS because there's no guarantee the same pgsql instance you started on is the one you might talk to later on with multi-AZ environments)02:22
pyconau-c33I just hope you aren't holding a transaction open while the video encodes.02:23
CarlFKmight be - who cares?02:24
xfxf-laptop@pyconau-c33  he was :P02:24
xfxf-laptopaactually CarlFK I reckon you changed it at LCA, because their network kept doing TCP resets02:24
xfxf-laptopremember the db conn kept dying?02:24
pyconau-c33^ That's why you care.02:25
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CarlFKhmm...    Name: Leave Your Inhibitions at the Database Connection02:39
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xfxf-laptopCarlFK:  are you able to do a re-import of schedule data?  they've had two rooms entirely swap :P03:43
CarlFKsure thing03:43
xfxf-laptopall rooms: any time is written down on the recording sheet, you should have an actual cut associated with it (the time you write down is the cut time).  i'm entering sheet 1 now and already noticed that hasn't happened03:46
xfxf-laptopif there's something notable that happens during a talk - please cut and note that cut time.   (cut is just metadata, it doesn't actually cut the talk)03:47
xfxf-laptopwithout that we have go to through by hand and add the cut points, which is super fiddly03:47
xfxf-laptop100% start and end of talks definitely need a cut though.   if you miss the cut, just do it anyway and write "approx 10 seconds late" or whatever on the sheet03:48
CarlFKxfxf-laptop: updated03:58
xfxf-laptopthankyou!03:58
xfxf-laptopbtw enc.py's mp4 settings appears to call atsc_720p_30 (hardcoded)03:59
xfxf-laptopi've just changed my local copy to 25, as I assume that might do some 25 > 30 frame interpolation03:59
xfxf-laptopi thought the mp4 profile used something in veyepar.cfg at some stage?  (it's def hard coded now)03:59
CarlFKI may have jacked it up chasing that interleave problem a few months ago04:00
xfxf-laptopright, i remember you had an hdv profile until recently04:01
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pyconau-c34-c35xfxf-laptop: the issue with the missing cut entries, was that our room? (in case we need to fix something)04:15
xfxf-laptopit was04:16
xfxf-laptopi can see cuts so the cut script appears to be working, just not matching with what's on the sheets04:16
xfxf-laptopit's not the end of the world, I can fix it, but it certainly makes the pipeline quicker if we can punch in the sheets relatively unchanged04:17
pyconau-c34-c35okay, I'll come check with you later on. certainly don't want to make your life difficult.04:17
xfxf-laptopno worries, all good04:17
xfxf-laptopCarlFK: there's a way to get one of your scripts to prompt for the oauth access for youtube, and I can't remember how, do you remember?04:20
CarlFKxfxf-laptop: one way is just run the uploader04:20
xfxf-laptoptried that, but it's barfing about no client-secrets.json04:20
xfxf-laptopi vaguely recall there are two files though, one for veyepar, the other for oauth?04:21
CarlFKyeah - client is the one you need to get04:21
CarlFKor keep track of the one you got before ;)04:21
xfxf-laptopright04:22
AVHQ;)04:22
xfxf-laptopi did, found it, plonked it in place, all good, thanks04:22
CarlFKyay04:22
CarlFKwho's AVHQ?04:22
AVHQpeer04:22
AVHQthe loud beardy one04:22
CarlFKoh hey.  peer?04:22
AVHQwassup04:22
micolousHAY04:23
CarlFKwoo.  first pyohio vid up04:23
CarlFKnot sure how, 4 days ago I was asking for the auth thing04:23
xfxf-laptopwasn't pyohio a week ago? :P04:24
CarlFKwas about to send out a 4th "give me access!!!" with more CCs and it just worked04:24
CarlFKyeah - "can you put it on our channel?"  "yes.  click and give me token..."  crickets ...04:25
CarlFKI get the feeling I'm using the token? from last year and they somehow reactivated it04:25
CarlFKor I'm uploading to PyCon.AU :p04:25
CarlFKhttp://youtu.be/-bBHXimlfPQ04:26
CarlFKhttps://archive.org/details/pyohio_2019-Changing_Lives_through_Open_Source_Passion_and_Mentoring04:26
tpbTitle: "Changing Lives through Open Source, Passion and Mentoring" - Kattni Rembor (Pyohio 2019) : Kattni Rembor : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive (at archive.org)04:26
CarlFKcan someone review all the things and make sure I didn't jack something up04:26
xfxf-laptopthere's a problem with that video04:33
xfxf-laptopyou're using picture in picture :P04:33
xfxf-laptop(video looks fine to me)04:33
CarlFKthanks04:34
CarlFKduh.. how do I create a playlist?04:37
CarlFKhttps://www.youtube.com/user/NextDayVideo/playlists  we have 3 :)04:37
CarlFKah, I have to start with a vid and add it ... I think.04:42
xfxf-laptopit's under a wierd submenu in the youtube editor thing04:46
xfxf-laptopfighting with an issue at the moment, i'll link you to it soon04:46
CarlFKtake you time - I created it by going to that vid and adding it which has a "make new list"04:53
CarlFKbut I am curious how you create an empty one04:53
pyconau-c36HELP05:00
xfxf-laptoppyconau-c36: more context pelase05:00
pyconau-c36issue video from laptop flickering05:00
xfxf-laptopthe cable won't be in properly05:01
xfxf-laptopguaranteed05:01
xfxf-laptopi'll come over05:01
pyconau-c36video on projector05:01
pyconau-c36AVHQ: please unplug the machines you just imaged05:02
pyconau-c36there is something fighting with the input in this room....05:02
pyconau-c36AVHQ: urgent05:02
pyconau-c36uplug both macines05:02
pyconau-c36now05:02
AVHQdone05:03
AVHQthey are 80/81, so05:03
xfxf-laptoppyconau-c36: sorry i misunderstood, i thought you meant flickering on the projector05:05
xfxf-laptopwe are super short on staff this year, so unfortunately 'HELP' isn't enough, as we don't have a dedicated room runner ;)05:05
pyconau-c36yeah soz my bad05:06
xfxf-laptopall g05:07
pyconau-c36hadn't covered that issue, knew something was really wrong05:07
xfxf-laptopya, the issue was two machines were reimaged here in HQ, and it had the wrong IP addresses configured05:07
xfxf-laptopso there was a machine here trying to push video into your voctomix...05:08
pyconau-c36mmm yes... fun05:08
pyconau-c36as a side note, got a humm/buzz in here that comes and goes05:13
pyconau-c36might need looking into05:13
pyconau-c36I can hear it on the video not in the room though05:14
xfxf-laptopoheydrew: ^05:14
oheydrew...05:15
xfxf-laptopoheydrew: you don't have to leave right now to look at it, just more FYI to look at in a break or whatever05:15
oheydrewsweet, yep, sorry, was catching up05:16
oheydrewcool. Can have a look. I'll head over there soon and have a listen before the break. Mostly dealing with the room 3.3 turnaround this break though05:16
xfxf-laptopwhat, you can't do 20 things at once?05:17
xfxf-laptopall g05:17
oheydrewI am octotech05:17
pyconau-c33What are you doing to our room now?05:17
oheydrewC3.3 is getting extra pieces of stage, and another mic for a panel session05:17
xfxf-laptopoheydrew: isn't that C3.6?05:17
oheydrewwait05:17
oheydrewo05:17
xfxf-laptopyou mean the swapped room right?05:18
oheydrewI got the rooms confused. Security track05:18
xfxf-laptopcorrect me others, but it was cockle and C3.6 that changed, wasn't it?05:18
oheydrewRight, is this the same room, then? Right05:18
xfxf-laptopi believe so05:18
pyconau-c33Yeah.05:18
oheydrewSweet05:18
pyconau-c333.3 is django05:18
oheydrewRIGHT05:18
xfxf-laptopi mean django might want an extra bit of stage too? :P05:18
pyconau-c33Can someone print oheydrew a map?05:19
xfxf-laptophahah05:19
oheydrewwon't help05:19
oheydrewneed brain that work good05:19
oheydrew@AVHQ @charcol Panel all good in 3.6?06:53
AVHQsounds good06:53
pyconau-c36panel up next @oheydrew06:53
oheydrewohhhhh right yep06:53
oheydrewI can read programs and maps06:54
oheydrewI am good at my job I promise06:54
AVHQwhoops06:54
AVHQ36 is buzzing06:54
oheydrew@char try pulling down the STG DI channel06:54
oheydrew@charcol rather06:54
AVHQnot so much now06:54
AVHQyeah better now06:55
oheydrewI hope that was because char pulled the channel down ^_^ otherwise it's a Ghost Buzz06:55
oheydrewI hate Ghost Buzzes06:55
pyconau-c36moved it down - is that the laptop line?  If so I'll bring it all the way down - no one will have laptop audio rest of the session06:56
oheydrewPerfect, yep. It06:56
oheydrew's the laptop DI line06:56
oheydrewhooray, it sounds like it wasn't a Ghost Buzz06:56
oheydrewIt sounds like it was a DI Buzz06:56
oheydrewWe can murder those with ease06:57
xfxf-laptopCarlFK: your new mp4 encoding settings is pretty low quality btw07:04
xfxf-laptopthe files are tiny compared to what they used to be07:05
CarlFKxfxf-laptop: how do they look?07:06
xfxf-laptophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouf-aDzoFNg07:07
pyconau-c36@oheydrew, buzz is back but STG is all the way down07:08
xfxf-laptopthe camera specifically07:08
xfxf-laptopit'll be bitrate related, debugging now07:08
oheydrewHmmmm07:08
CarlFKlooks ok to me07:08
oheydrewIs it persisting? I can come have a listen07:08
pyconau-c36still here for now07:09
oheydrewill try get there07:09
xfxf-laptop@CarlFK it's lower quality than prior videos 100%.  the encoded mp4's are half the size they were07:09
CarlFKthat's a good thing, right?07:10
CarlFKI think his mic is upside down?07:12
CarlFKsounds fine though07:13
xfxf-laptopsound isn't the issue, it's the video codec07:16
xfxf-laptopi think i've fixed it anyway, running a test07:16
pycau-cbxfxf-laptop: one of the projectors just stopped working in cockle bay. the in-room guy is taking a look07:17
xfxf-laptophooray07:17
pycau-cb(luckily the talk basically finished, so the only slide that was affected on that screen was his acknowledgements before he went on to Q&A)07:18
xfxf-laptopthat def won't be anything to do with us, so glad he is07:18
pyconau-c36fyi, we're not recording this session07:24
pycau-cbxfxf-laptop: we are back now07:26
xfxf-laptoprad07:27
pycau-cbif this was linuxconf I'd say someone was mucking around with an IR blaster07:27
oheydrewStill could be. Apparently it switched inputs from SDI to HDMI. They're hard wired from SDI runs here so there's no external communication. Weird, but... not a huge show stopper unless it happens again07:45
pyconau-c36this room still going, but should wrap up soon08:06
xfxf-laptopnps08:10
xfxf-laptopall teams: please remember to cut *before* the intro, not after11:39
xfxf-laptopand you cut *after* the talk when the room MC has said thankyou & when there is clapping (ideally cut mid-clap)11:39
xfxf-laptop(what you've been doing is great, but everyone is inconsistent, so please do the above :P )11:45
xfxf-laptop@CarlFK sorry for delay - playlists is hidden under there in 'youtube studio' https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9sdqif0D/yt%20playlist11:47
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CarlFKxfxf-phone: how do I create a new playlist ?15:54
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xfxf-laptopCarlFK:  are you able to import schedule data again pls?21:53
CarlFKxfxf-laptop: yes.. but errors :(21:54
CarlFK    if url.startswith('file'):21:54
CarlFKAttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'21:54
CarlFKin case you were wondering21:54
xfxf-laptopCarlFK:  is that due to broken schedule data or code?21:55
CarlFKno clue21:55
CarlFKno scheudle url is my guess21:55
CarlFKhttps://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/show_parameters/448/    Schedule data: (none)21:56
CarlFKItem Count: (none)21:56
tpbTitle: Veyepar: Video eyeball produce and review. (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com)21:56
CarlFKwut?21:56
CarlFKthere are now 2 Pyconau_2019 entries21:57
xfxf-laptopoh wait21:57
CarlFK           The show "PyCon Australia: Pyconau_2019" was deleted successfully.21:57
xfxf-laptopi renamed the slug because it was wrong21:57
CarlFKoh great.21:57
xfxf-laptoppyconau2019 is the correct one21:57
xfxf-laptophttps://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/C/pyconau/S/pyconau2019/21:58
tpbTitle: veyepar - Show: PyCon Australia PyCon AU 2019 (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com)21:58
CarlFKwhat was wrong with the old one?21:58
xfxf-laptopeverything was configured without the underscore, there were some wierd side effects, i forget what21:59
CarlFKnot everything :p21:59
xfxf-laptopsorry, i forgot you were likely poking it with a different show name on your side21:59
CarlFKthis is a reason for veyepar to generate ansible inventory - but that's work :p22:00
xfxf-laptopoh we have ansible working, but that was after the show started22:01
xfxf-laptopthere's a reason we're using #lca-av...22:01
CarlFKlol22:01
xfxf-laptopredeploying boxes mid-event seems silly22:01
tumbleweedwe've lost videos doing that in the past :)22:02
AVHQyeah22:03
xfxf-laptoptumbleweed: not surprised, hence our hesitation.  jordan did great wrangling ansible though22:03
xfxf-laptopwe also have a new 1080p PiP mode too22:03
xfxf-laptopbut didn't roll that out.  the 30 min chunks are 25gig each and it uses 700mbit on the network per stream....22:03
CarlFKAVHQ: https://debconf-video-team.pages.debian.net/ansible/usb_install/usb_quick_start.html22:04
tpbTitle: Quick Start DebConf Videoteam Ansible documentation (at debconf-video-team.pages.debian.net)22:04
tumbleweeddoing 1080 in vocto?22:04
AVHQhttps://salsa.debian.org/peer-guest/ansible22:04
tpbTitle: Jordan Songer / ansible · GitLab (at salsa.debian.org)22:04
CarlFKthat should take about 20 min of time, spread out over 3 hours of interruptions22:04
xfxf-laptoptumbleweed: yeah22:04
xfxf-laptop1080p vocto with cropped PiP https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zSZvf5tn/image.png22:05
CarlFKI kinda want everyone to know what it is so they can recommend it to people who don't, but should22:05
AVHQoooo22:05
CarlFKI use it as my own CI when the automated CI lets broken stuff pass  >:22:05
tumbleweedthat's a weird PinP layout, but I think I get the idea22:06
CarlFKand it gives you a good starting point for trying new stuff22:06
CarlFKxfxf-laptop: there is an alarming amount of changes22:17
CarlFKhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sqQWwq87Cq/  250+lines22:18
tpbTitle: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)22:18
xfxf-phoneAre they additions or changes?22:31
xfxf-phoneNot clear on how to grok that22:31
xfxf-phoneIs it that the descriptions dissapeared?22:32
CarlFKconf: is what is coming from the conf site22:32
CarlFKveyepar: is what is in veyepar22:32
CarlFKdescription doesn't print, too big, just floods my brain22:32
xfxf-phonemost lines just show veyepar22:32
CarlFKeach section seperated by blank lines ins one record in veyepar, or the conf if it can't find a veyepar22:33
xfxf-phoneI'm still confused as to what it's meant to be saying. Are most of those lines saying the data exists in veyepar but no longer exists on conf?22:34
CarlFKline 7: veyepar #id name: #14884 Security and Privacy22:34
CarlFKthat is in veyeapar. thats the row id in the db, and the current title22:35
CarlFKhttp://veyepar.nextdayvideo.com/main/E/14884/  url you can browse and see the page22:35
tpbTitle: veyepar: Security and Privacy (at veyepar.nextdayvideo.com)22:35
CarlFK1001 https://2019.pycon-au.org/security-and-privacy-track/  conf key?  (I expected letters) and url in the conf site22:35
tpbTitle: PyCon AU 2019 | Security and Privacy (at 2019.pycon-au.org)22:35
CarlFKok so far?22:36
xfxf-phoneI'm running around at the moment, it's 8.28am22:37
xfxf-phoneStill confused. That output is from an actual run that changed data or a test run?22:38
CarlFKignore the paste thing and read what I just posted22:39
xfxf-laptopok, at a laptop now.  yes, understand what you're saying, still don't understand the paste22:42
CarlFKignore the paste22:42
xfxf-laptopso what happened yesterday is two miniconfs switched rooms from midday onwards22:43
xfxf-laptopthe schedule data had already been updated, as I processed most of those videos last night no problems22:43
xfxf-laptopoutside of that, apparently only a couple of talks have changed & twitter handles have been added22:44
CarlFK"Security and Privacy" are not the same in both systems.  these fields are different: location, start, duration, tags,22:44
xfxf-laptopyep, so the security and data science tracks changed part way during the day22:44
CarlFKoh great, that's not a talk, but .. a 'Slot'?22:46
xfxf-laptopthis is a different system to LCA's22:46
CarlFK"Security and Privacy" is that a talk ?22:46
xfxf-laptopno, it's a miniconf22:46
CarlFKgreat.22:47
xfxf-laptophang off fixing it22:47
xfxf-laptopi'll get them to fix it22:47
CarlFK"Rust's Recipes for Code and Community"  talk?22:47
CarlFKmeh, it's likly eaiser for us to fix it22:48
xfxf-laptopthe TLDR again is two of the tracks/rooms changed halfway during the day22:48
xfxf-laptopare there duplicate conf keys?22:48
CarlFKim not sure I test for that22:49
xfxf-laptopthey're apparently fixing something now22:49
xfxf-laptopthey made a change to the JSON as it drives the website data, and it had the wrong room names for the room switch on the talks22:49
xfxf-laptopCarlFK: https://github.com/pyconau/2019.pycon-au.org/pull/132/files22:59
tpbTitle: Fix duplicate conf keys in schedule json by katharosada · Pull Request #132 · pyconau/2019.pycon-au.org · GitHub (at github.com)22:59
xfxf-laptopthat's their fix for the data.  the TLDR is i think you can ignore those 'tracks' completely, it's not useful data to us23:00
xfxf-laptop(the same data they feed us also drives their website, so we will get some side effects of them updating info for visual purposes)23:00
CarlFK"type": "track" - I;ll ignore those23:02
CarlFKxfxf-laptop: xfxf-phone: get someone on your end to work on this - 2 more errors just arrived and I have to run23:07
xfxf-phonenp, is your latest code committed?23:08
xfxf-phoneCarlFK23:08
xfxf-laptopif so, micolous, I'll add this to your TODO if ok (run a new data import, as there's new updates)23:09
CarlFKxfxf-phone: pushed23:09
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