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llnz | hi mithro | 03:04 |
mithro | hey llnz | 03:04 |
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llnz | mithro: ping | 05:02 |
CIA-20 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r2988b32ebcff /.gitignore: Another file extension to ignore. | 06:18 |
CIA-20 | llnz tpserver-cpp * r7936425e49ee /tpserver/ (Makefile.am componentview.cpp componentview.h): | 06:18 |
CIA-20 | Added ComponentView class. | 06:18 |
CIA-20 | This class allows different players to have different views (even incorrect | 06:18 |
CIA-20 | views) of Components. Not used yet. Similar classes for Designs and Objects | 06:18 |
CIA-20 | are coming. | 06:18 |
llnz | :-) | 06:28 |
mithro | yay | 06:28 |
mithro | llnz: can you ping verbal or lester? | 06:34 |
llnz | yes, can ping both | 06:35 |
mithro | dang | 06:37 |
llnz | why? | 06:37 |
mithro | can you paste a traceback? | 06:38 |
llnz | traceroute? | 06:39 |
mithro | yes, sorry | 06:39 |
llnz | msn | 06:39 |
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remaxim | hi | 06:45 |
llnz | hi remaxim | 06:45 |
mithro | hey | 06:45 |
remaxim | didn't expect that many ppl to be online ;) | 06:46 |
llnz | hehe | 06:46 |
mithro | friday night | 06:46 |
remaxim | oh... yes! most of you guys are in australia and NZ ... | 06:47 |
remaxim | you lucky bastards ... | 06:47 |
remaxim | It's so f***ing cold in here :( | 06:47 |
llnz | :-) | 06:47 |
remaxim | llnz, did you listen to the batlle music and the intro video? | 06:48 |
mithro | its f***ing hot here | 06:48 |
remaxim | mithro, arghhh | 06:48 |
remaxim | I want to surf ... :D | 06:48 |
remaxim | hot air... cool water... good waves ... what more does a man need? | 06:49 |
remaxim | oh yeah... a surfboard of course ;) | 06:49 |
remaxim | does anyone of you surf? | 06:49 |
mithro | nope | 06:50 |
mithro | my sister does sometimes | 06:50 |
remaxim | mithro, I think we should switch the countries we live in ;) | 06:50 |
remaxim | mithro, do you know how advanced the battle viewer is? | 06:50 |
mithro | it was going well, but jotham got very busy | 06:51 |
remaxim | mithro, how much time does it probably need till it's "ready" ? | 06:53 |
remaxim | just dimension-wise ;) | 06:53 |
remaxim | sorry... I probably have to ask jotham | 06:58 |
remaxim | mithro, do you have the rights for the Thousand Parsec name and logo? | 06:58 |
mithro | kind of | 07:00 |
remaxim | mithro, after I finished here I want to release an CC album called "The Thousand Parsec Soundtrack" ... that's why | 07:01 |
mithro | remaxim: well, wait till you get to that point :) | 07:02 |
remaxim | mithro, I think I am not that far away from that --- | 07:03 |
remaxim | I just need to finish the battle music (or not, I m not sure how much sense it makes to do it now) ... | 07:04 |
remaxim | or do you have some more jobs for me? | 07:04 |
mithro | a sound track is normally about 7-10 tracks :P | 07:04 |
llnz | remaxim: i heard the intro video, will need to check the battle music | 07:05 |
remaxim | mithro, I know ... but 4-5 is IMO enough as well ;) ... just want to release a mini album... | 07:05 |
remaxim | llnz, which version of the intro video? ;) | 07:05 |
remaxim | I released a new one yesterday | 07:06 |
llnz | not that one | 07:06 |
remaxim | http://www.box.net/shared/jff9sheo5r | 07:06 |
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remaxim | llnz, I think that should be the new one ... | 07:07 |
remaxim | There are just too many different versions ... I m a little bit confused myself | 07:07 |
llnz | hehe, cool | 07:08 |
remaxim | mithro, do you have the original copyright for the name and logo? | 07:08 |
remaxim | llnz, did you like the new one? | 07:08 |
llnz | it's very good | 07:09 |
remaxim | thx | 07:09 |
llnz | the music i have are: 5-2, 6, 8-2, 9, 9-2, 11 | 07:10 |
remaxim | llnz, I don't want to release 6 and I am not sure if I will release 11 ... but there is no ones missing ;) | 07:11 |
llnz | 11 sounds very industrial | 07:12 |
mithro | remaxim: I don't think the crackling sound is quite right | 07:12 |
remaxim | mithro, I m not sure about that as well... | 07:12 |
mithro | I think more of a fizziling sound? | 07:13 |
mithro | or a boiling sound? | 07:13 |
llnz | it can't all be airy-fairy space sound | 07:13 |
remaxim | mithro, I don't like any of those endings I did | 07:13 |
* llnz watches intro-high4 again | 07:13 | |
mithro | well practice makes perfect or something like that :P | 07:14 |
remaxim | mithro, maybe ... | 07:15 |
mithro | hissing maybe? | 07:15 |
remaxim | I couldn't find any hissing sound ... | 07:16 |
remaxim | mithro, I thought of hissing as well ... | 07:18 |
remaxim | shit... that's already the 8th version of the ending I did ... | 07:20 |
remaxim | llnz, what do you think of the battle music? | 07:22 |
remaxim | http://www.box.net/shared/nc36iib0to | 07:25 |
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remaxim | mithro, please tell me if you like this one more | 07:25 |
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mithro | dang netsplit | 07:27 |
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remaxim | mithro, yeah... what happend? | 07:27 |
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mithro | remaxim: called a netsplit | 07:28 |
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mithro | where one server gets disconnected from the rest | 07:28 |
remaxim | ah.. ok! | 07:28 |
llnz | <llnz> true, maybe some heavy metal type music too | 07:28 |
remaxim | mithro, could you tell me what you think of the new version? | 07:28 |
mithro | which is the new version? | 07:29 |
remaxim | mithro, http://www.box.net/shared/nc36iib0to | 07:29 |
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mithro | it's a little confusing which one is which :) | 07:29 |
remaxim | llnz, what is true? | 07:29 |
llnz | <mithro> llnz: I think the battle music needs some more upbeat stuff | 07:30 |
llnz | :-) | 07:30 |
remaxim | mithro, I am even a little bit confused myself ... I just did too many versions | 07:30 |
remaxim | llnz, upbeat music is already hard for me to compose ... | 07:30 |
llnz | <mithro> s/llnz/remaxim/ | 07:30 |
remaxim | and I defently won't do any heavy metal stuff... It's too hard doing it with a keyboard | 07:31 |
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remaxim | llnz, thx... I ve lost those messages because of the netsplit | 07:32 |
mithro | remaxim: maybe thinking the cannon part in that 12th overture? | 07:32 |
remaxim | hm? | 07:33 |
* llnz has the CD for the music of Red Alert some where.... | 07:33 | |
remaxim | mithro, I don't know what you're talking about... sorry | 07:34 |
mithro | remaxim: it's a very well known classical peice | 07:35 |
remaxim | mithro, by whom? | 07:35 |
llnz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1812_Overture | 07:35 |
tpb | Title: 1812 Overture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) | 07:35 |
remaxim | llnz, sounds strange ... at least the sample on the wikipedia sounds strange | 07:37 |
remaxim | not like battle music at all | 07:37 |
llnz | it is a strange sample of that piece | 07:37 |
remaxim | ah... ok! | 07:37 |
mithro | dundundadada boom-boom | 07:37 |
remaxim | :D | 07:38 |
mithro | you just have to time the ship explosions with that :) | 07:38 |
remaxim | mithro, WHAT???? | 07:39 |
mithro | remaxim: dang, that crackle bit still doesn't sound right | 07:39 |
mithro | remaxim: you time the explosions to be at the peak of the music | 07:40 |
remaxim | ... I m not sure if that's possible | 07:40 |
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mithro | well, we need some type of extra info about the music content | 07:41 |
llnz | realaudio clip on here: http://music.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/9906_julyfourth/ | 07:42 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1ITt> (at music.minnesota.publicradio.org) | 07:42 |
remaxim | mithro, what do you mean with some kind of extra info? | 07:42 |
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mithro | remaxim: well, timing of important parts | 07:43 |
JLP | ahoy * | 07:44 |
remaxim | mithro, you need that extra information from me? hm... I just took my infos from the video and tried to synchonise it | 07:44 |
remaxim | hi JLP | 07:44 |
mithro | remaxim: for the battle viewer it would be useful | 07:44 |
remaxim | okay... | 07:45 |
remaxim | if I will do any battle music I will give you the infos you need | 07:45 |
remaxim | the 12th overture doesn't sound like battle music at all :( | 07:47 |
llnz | found a midi file of it | 07:47 |
mithro | remaxim: i think it's more the tempo rather then actual sound | 07:47 |
remaxim | ah, ok! | 07:47 |
mithro | actually, what would be really good is the Total Annihilation soundtrack | 07:47 |
remaxim | I never played TA... so maybe ;) | 07:48 |
mithro | I could pull out my TA cd and make you some MP3's | 07:51 |
remaxim | mithro, I m on youtube right now ;) | 07:52 |
mithro | TA used a similar system | 07:52 |
remaxim | I already found the intro ... with great battle music in it | 07:52 |
remaxim | similar to whatß | 07:52 |
remaxim | similar to what? | 07:52 |
mithro | it would change the music dependent on what was going on | 07:52 |
remaxim | mithro, do you want to do something like this? | 07:53 |
remaxim | I mean that the music changes automatically? | 07:53 |
mithro | yeah, it would be cool to do | 07:53 |
remaxim | nobody told me that ... how should it work? | 07:53 |
mithro | remaxim: making shorter peices with different tempos? | 07:54 |
remaxim | mithro, I mean where s the diffrence in gameplay? | 07:55 |
remaxim | here's the new version of the intro video: http://www.box.net/shared/29ue0ceg3c | 07:55 |
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remaxim | mithro, it would be great if you tell me what you think of the new version... | 07:57 |
mithro | downloading now | 07:57 |
mithro | remaxim: I think it sounds quite a bit better | 07:58 |
remaxim | mithro, good enough to be part of the game? | 07:59 |
mithro | remaxim: it's getting there | 07:59 |
remaxim | hm.. | 07:59 |
remaxim | to be honest... it's the first one I like | 07:59 |
remaxim | but I don't know what to change ... | 07:59 |
mithro | remaxim: I think the hissing needs to start quiter and get louder or something like that? | 08:00 |
remaxim | even louder than now? | 08:01 |
mithro | not quite sure | 08:01 |
mithro | I think just play with it for a while longer to see what you can do | 08:01 |
remaxim | OK ... | 08:03 |
remaxim | mithro, when I asked you if you have the copyright of the name and logo you told me kind of... what do you mean with that? | 08:04 |
mithro | remaxim: well, you can't copyright a name | 08:05 |
mithro | you can trademark it, I have an unregistered trademark in Australia | 08:05 |
remaxim | really? I thought so... | 08:05 |
remaxim | ah ok... right... trademark ... | 08:06 |
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remaxim | so I am allowed to use the name? | 08:06 |
remaxim | s/I am/am I | 08:07 |
mithro | the logo is GPLed | 08:07 |
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remaxim | mithro, who did the logo? | 08:07 |
mithro | remaxim: a guy called zzorn | 08:07 |
mithro | from the worldforge project | 08:08 |
remaxim | I want to use it for CC-BY-SA-NC and GPL probably won't work too well with that | 08:08 |
mithro | yeah, that won't work with the GPL | 08:08 |
remaxim | mithro, do you know any way I could contact him? | 08:08 |
mithro | why? | 08:08 |
remaxim | the best one would be of course a channel... | 08:08 |
remaxim | so I can ask him to re-release it under the CC-BY-SA-NC license | 08:09 |
mithro | CC-BY-SA-NC is not really useful | 08:09 |
remaxim | ähm... why not? | 08:09 |
mithro | the NC makes it non-free and we can't use it | 08:10 |
remaxim | mithro, I don't want you to use it .. | 08:10 |
remaxim | I want to publish a album ... | 08:10 |
remaxim | you ll get your own tracks (same material but different license) | 08:11 |
mithro | why not just release the album under the same license? | 08:11 |
remaxim | mithro, I don't want to | 08:11 |
mithro | remaxim: you got any reasons? | 08:12 |
remaxim | the only reason I would choose another license than CC-BY-SA-NC is that I want to contribute to your game... | 08:12 |
remaxim | but I want to keep it non-commercial as a album! I mean not everybody knows that there is a "free for commercial purposes" version as well | 08:13 |
remaxim | mithro, so... is there any way I could contact zzorn? (btw. is he german ;) ) | 08:14 |
mithro | remaxim: no finish | 08:14 |
mithro | s/finish/Finnish/ | 08:14 |
remaxim | ah ... ok! I already wondered what you ment with that | 08:15 |
remaxim | any chatroom? | 08:15 |
mithro | you can try the worldforge server | 08:15 |
mithro | oh, but you would have to use the original PNG logo | 08:15 |
mithro | previous versions have been modifyied by various people | 08:16 |
mithro | s/previous/later/ | 08:16 |
mithro | bah, maybe I should go to bed :P | 08:16 |
remaxim | mithro, could you send me the original png logo? | 08:16 |
mithro | remaxim: why not release your album under your own name? | 08:16 |
remaxim | hm... I want to use remaxim ... | 08:17 |
mithro | then you don't have any license problems | 08:17 |
mithro | remaxim: I mean "Remaxim's Spacey Music" or something? | 08:17 |
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remaxim | I just want the logo on the cover ;) | 08:17 |
remaxim | mithro, because that's gay | 08:18 |
remaxim | seriously... I would look like a geek doing music like this for fun | 08:18 |
mithro | remaxim: but if I wanted a muscian for my game/movie a geek would be good | 08:19 |
remaxim | I want to point out that I did that for others... producing their ideas | 08:19 |
remaxim | mithro, I m no geek... and I don't want the image of a geek ... | 08:19 |
mithro | remaxim: I think you worry too much | 08:20 |
remaxim | mithro, I don't think so! ... I just take it quite seriously | 08:20 |
remaxim | mithro, could you tell me the name of the worldforge chan? | 08:21 |
mithro | irc.worldforge.org try #lounge | 08:21 |
mithro | he hasn't been around much recently | 08:21 |
remaxim | as I see he isn't on right now | 08:22 |
mithro | yeah | 08:22 |
remaxim | mithro, I will use your name anyway ;) ... | 08:22 |
remaxim | the only thing making me troubles is the logo... | 08:23 |
remaxim | mithro, could you send me the original logo before going to bed? | 08:23 |
mithro | remaxim: well, the music will be associated with the project rather then you | 08:23 |
mithro | remaxim: you can find it in the repository, svn.thousandparsec.net :P | 08:24 |
mithro | (if you are using the Thousand Parsec name?) | 08:24 |
remaxim | mithro, that's ok | 08:24 |
remaxim | it's more like showing that free projects produce free media as well ;) | 08:25 |
remaxim | even though not that free ;) | 08:25 |
mithro | remaxim: you see our calendar? | 08:25 |
mithro | that is all GPL :) | 08:25 |
remaxim | what is your calendar good for? | 08:26 |
mithro | keeping dates and looking good :) | 08:26 |
mithro | and showing of our artwork | 08:26 |
mithro | s/of/off | 08:26 |
remaxim | mithro, is that the original one? http://svn.thousandparsec.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/media/promotion/posters/puny-galaxy/logo.png?rev=9&view=markup | 08:26 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1IUe> (at svn.thousandparsec.net) | 08:26 |
remaxim | mithro, just something like a fanproject... ? | 08:27 |
mithro | this one -> http://svn.thousandparsec.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/media/promotion/logo/zzorn.png?rev=4&view=markup | 08:28 |
tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1IUg> (at svn.thousandparsec.net) | 08:28 |
mithro | unlike commercial games we don't really have "fan projects" they are part of the community | 08:28 |
remaxim | I know... that's why I said "like" a fanproject ;) | 08:29 |
llnz | there is no difference between a fanproject, and the whole overall project | 08:31 |
remaxim | the only difference is that the "fanproject" doesn't really help the rest of the project ... but that's not important | 08:33 |
mithro | remaxim: but it does help us | 08:34 |
remaxim | mithro, how? | 08:34 |
mithro | promots the project, helps attract new people, gives us ideas | 08:35 |
remaxim | true... | 08:36 |
remaxim | I ment directly ... ;) | 08:36 |
mithro | those are pretty direct benefits to me :) | 08:36 |
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remaxim | mithro, but not to the project ;) | 08:38 |
mithro | those seem pretty direct benefits to the project (to me) :) | 08:39 |
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mithro | anyway I need to go to bed | 08:39 |
mithro | gnight! | 08:39 |
mithro | see you all around | 08:39 |
remaxim | good night | 08:40 |
remaxim | ... the music for the intro is called G10 ... | 08:41 |
remaxim | and now I am working on G10-12 ;) | 08:41 |
remaxim | that's the 12th version of it ;) | 08:41 |
remaxim | I ll go now as well... | 08:49 |
remaxim | bye | 08:49 |
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llnz | hummm.... it's 3am, i should be asleep | 08:55 |
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llnz | later all | 08:55 |
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remaxim | hi | 13:22 |
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remaxim | hi | 14:30 |
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remaxim | hi | 17:34 |
remaxim | I m just reading a book about game design ... | 17:35 |
remaxim | the author interview some sound engineers for that and they say that it's very important to try out sounds and music while playing... so you can find out if they truly fit the game | 17:36 |
remaxim | so... could someone try to integrate the music in the game and try to play for a while with it ? ... | 17:40 |
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zzorn | o/ :) | 18:07 |
remaxim | hi zzorn | 18:08 |
zzorn | hi | 18:09 |
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llnz | hi zzorn | 18:10 |
llnz | no prob, more people the better | 18:10 |
zzorn | cool | 18:10 |
llnz | zzorn: llnz == Lee on wf :-) | 18:14 |
zzorn | llnz: I seem to recall that nick, yes. Good to see you :) | 18:16 |
remaxim | good night @all .... bye | 18:50 |
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llnz | bbl | 19:03 |
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llnz | back | 22:36 |
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llnz | hi mithro | 23:07 |
mithro | hey llnz | 23:15 |
mithro | hey zzorn | 23:15 |
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mithro | llnz: have you been around much on the weekends? | 23:22 |
llnz | not normally | 23:22 |
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mithro | llnz: decided to try and get the above vs up again? | 23:36 |
llnz | nope, normally out and about with megan on the weekends, but today she is downstairs cooking | 23:38 |
llnz | so i'm on the computer :-) | 23:38 |
llnz | i should go cook dinner soon | 23:39 |
mithro | llnz: should try and get the number up so I can bring all the stuff to LCA :) | 23:39 |
llnz | oh, right | 23:40 |
llnz | yeah, i should try | 23:40 |
mithro | still got a month | 23:44 |
llnz | have it running right now | 23:48 |
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