Monday, 2007-11-26

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CIA-10nash galaxie * r6f868fe5c243 /tpe_orders.c: Structure for sending orders.00:00
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llnzlater all06:38
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remaximhi08:03
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remaximhi JLP08:13
remaximanyone here?08:21
remaximI m working on some concept-music ... I need someone to listen to ... someone who s really involved into the project ...08:24
remaxim http://www.box.net/shared/ebta3eas4c08:51
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remaximwtf?08:51
remaximokay... that s only the first try... tell me what you think of it! and in which ways you imagined the music to be diffrently08:52
remaximis tpb a bot?08:52
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remaximsome intermezzo: http://www.box.net/shared/na3y83oi4s10:08
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remaximok... I am off... listen to the music and tell me what you think of it!10:09
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remaximanyone alive?16:13
greywhindremaxim: i am16:14
remaximoh hi16:14
remaximgreywhind, I did some concept-music for the game and wanted some feedback, so I can work further on it16:15
greywhindremaxim: well, i wouldn't suggest taking any feedback i give too seriously16:15
remaximdoesn't matter ...16:15
greywhindbut i'll listen to it16:16
remaximI just never played the game and don't have any idea how it should sound or feel like16:16
remaximgreywhind, I just have to find the links once again ;)16:18
greywhindremaxim: are they the same as above?16:18
remaximyep those two16:18
* peres liked the music, but he's not a developer here so ...... :P16:19
remaximthank you peres16:22
greywhindremaxim: on the first one, G5.mp3, i like it, nice and ominous, synth-ish sounds are good, i think. it does need to be counterbalanced by a more upbeat section, though, i'd say. has the right science-fictionish feel, though.16:22
remaximthx...16:22
remaximI like the beginning, but it gets boring after a while ...16:23
greywhind2nd one is also nice.16:23
remaximthe last time I played with pad instruments is quite a long time ago :D16:24
peresthe short one would be cool for a 'please wait while loading...' screen (is there any?)16:24
greywhindyeah, a bit of a key change or new beat/melody coming in would help16:24
greywhindperes: yes, there is a short loading screen16:24
greywhindor long, depending on the size of the universe16:24
remaximyeah, that's true  .... 6316:24
remaxim+16:24
remaximLOL16:24
remaximmy headphones just fall on my keyboard :D16:25
peresmust be heavy ones16:25
remaximsorry for that16:25
greywhindno problem16:25
remaximyep... they are quite heavy... but great to produce with... great sound16:25
greywhindremaxim: what brand?16:25
remaximsony16:25
remaximit's the MDR-XD100 ;) ... shouldn't be too expensive16:26
greywhindremaxim: ah. they make some very good stuff and some not so good stuff, in my opinion.16:26
greywhindi have sony earbud headphones that are quite good16:27
remaximähm... before I leave... do you have some inspiration for me, what I could do better or different?16:30
remaximgreywhind, peres ... that one was for you ;)16:32
remaximjust wanted your antention :D16:32
pereswhy not trying with a 'main theme'16:32
remaxim*attention ...16:32
peresyou would get a lot of attention for this :P16:32
remaximperes, what do you mean with a main theme?16:33
remaximlike some melody that is in the music the hole time?16:33
pereswell, a piece of music to be associated with thousand parsec, like in most games/movies16:33
greywhindremaxim: try a more upbeat piece with more melody... a sci-fi battle march maybe?16:33
pereswith some opera bits, maybe :P16:34
remaximgreywhind, I was told to do 3 different musics by JLP ... one for the start screen, one for the main game, and one for the battle screen16:35
remaximso... peres, I ll try to do something like this for the start screen... and greywhind, I also want to do something for the battle screen!16:36
remaximjust want some inspiration for the backgroundmusic for the main game16:36
greywhindremaxim: for the start screen, you probably want a somewhat short and sweet melodic/synth piece that serves as the main theme, the main game should be a much longer piece with plenty of variation, but not too distracting, and the battle screen, what i just said16:36
greywhindthat's what i'd do, at least16:36
peresdon't forget to put some oepra in it :P16:36
peresopera*16:37
remaximgreywhind, yep... that's what I want to do!16:37
greywhindremaxim: yeah, if you could find some clips of wordless choral singing that you'd be allowed to use, or perhaps synthesize something that sounds like it, that would be cool to work in there.16:38
remaximperes, you're crazy...16:38
greywhindkind of like the singing in the Halo theme16:38
peresremaxim: i'm just italian :P16:38
remaximperes, :D16:38
greywhindwell, i have to go for a while16:38
remaximgreywhind, for which song?16:38
greywhindremaxim: any16:39
remaximsorry only that question16:39
remaximany? OK ...16:39
greywhinddepends on what you find16:39
greywhindwhere it fits16:39
peresremaxim: think of this big opening with a whiny female voice ...16:39
peressomething that gives you the creeps16:39
remaximI don't want to use samples ... that causes too many license problems or stuff you have to think about ...16:39
remaximperes, great idea ...16:40
remaximsome opera stuff...16:40
remaximnow I got what you meant16:40
peresnot opera like in 'a night at the opera' :P16:40
remaximI dunno if I can realize this but it sounds good16:41
peresit is of course16:41
peres;)16:41
remaximperes, yeah... thats what I thought at the beginning16:41
remaximI need some orchestra drums ...16:41
remaximand I can't find any :(16:41
pereswhat do you mean find?16:41
remaximperes, some drumkits, refills or stuff I can use without clearing it16:42
pereseh getting too technical for me16:43
remaximperes just some stuff I can use without paying for it and stuff ... copyleft stuff16:44
peresso free samples?16:44
remaximperes, yep, thats one possibility16:46
remaximthere is also stuff like soundbanks... you have to pay for it, but you can use it freely afterwards16:46
remaximOK, I have to go now!16:50
remaximhave a nice day/night/whatever (depends on your timezone ;) )16:50
pereshave a good time16:50
peressame as yours16:50
remaximah.. that one is good :D16:50
remaxim"good time" sounds great16:51
remaximok... bye16:51
peresbye16:51
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mithrowow, it's pretty packed here17:36
nashmithro: heyo17:38
nashHey can you do a do a test for me... using tpserver-cpp send a 'rename object' order to a fleet in a game of RFTS17:38
* mithro is at OSDC in Brisbane17:38
mithronash: i'll try if I get time17:39
mithronash: you see greywhinds new overlay?17:39
nashmithro: Not yet17:46
nashmithro: The reason I ask is I crash the server when I do that, and I want to know if it's 100% server or 50% server (50% = server segaults when I send wrogn data)17:47
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nashmithro: Any time to try tpclient-py on tpserver-cpp running rfts?  Just one command on the first turn23:28
mithronash: can't you try it yourself?23:28
nashmithro: I want to try it on someone elses tpserver-cpp - to make sure it's not me in some way...23:29
mithroworked fine here23:32
nashSo you renamed a fleet in RFTS?23:35
nashCan you try with name > 4 characters if you didn't before?23:35
nashmithro: Which of course means I've screwed something up23:39
mithroand so has lee :P23:39
mithroThe name I changed to was "Evil Evil Test"23:39
nashmithro: Thanks23:41
nashIt's weird - that's the only command that it happens too.23:41
nashOf course it's still a bug that I can cause a segfault.23:41
nashSo I'll still submit that23:42
mithronash: Rusty asks "why are you not using talloc?"23:43
nashmithro: You want me to make the dependancy list _longer_?23:44
* nash looks at API23:45
mithrotalloc is probably small enough to be included in your own source tree23:46
nashmithro: Actually the best answer is... I hadn't thought of it..23:46
nashmithro: And it solves the next set of problems i was going to solve nicely23:46
nashI think..23:46
mithroRusty gave a talk this morning about C23:46
nashmithro: Cool23:47
nashThe talloc_set_destructor solves the problem I was wondering how to solve nicely the other day23:48
mithrotalloc was one of those things which he said "if you are not using talloc, you are doing it wrong" :P23:48
nashheh23:49
nashmithro: But he would say that ;-)23:55
greywhind_mithro/nash: have you listened to remaxim's concept music that he posted links to earlier?23:56
mithrogreywhind_: I haven't had a chance to read the logs recently23:56
greywhind_mithro; i'll give you the links23:56
greywhind_http://www.box.net/shared/ebta3eas4c23:56
tpbTitle: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net)23:56
* nash generally doesn't read the logs..23:56
mithrogreywhind_: link me to the log file location :P23:57
greywhind_http://www.box.net/shared/na3y83oi4s23:57
tpbTitle: Box.net - Free Online File Storage, Internet File Sharing, Online Storage, Access Documents & Files Anywhere, Backup Data, Send Files (at www.box.net)23:57
greywhind_those are the two he posted23:57
nashmithro: Talloc is GPL though23:58

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