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| madrazr | saviet: ping | 13:30 |
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| madrazr | well not bad | 13:30 |
| madrazr | still 7 here :P | 13:30 |
| saviet | hi | 13:30 |
| saviet | well 9.30 is not bad either :) | 13:30 |
| madrazr | saviet: nice :) | 13:31 |
| madrazr | Let me open my TODO file, give me a moment | 13:31 |
| saviet | exams got over this evening so now all set for getting to work on this project | 13:31 |
| madrazr | saviet: awesomeness! | 13:31 |
| madrazr | saviet: looking forward for making this project the best one ever done for Melange :) | 13:31 |
| saviet | me too, i will do my best | 13:32 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 13:32 |
| saviet | but your project from last yr is very cool as well | 13:32 |
| saviet | i saw the documents u had uploaded in the wiki | 13:32 |
| madrazr | saviet: heh, thanks | 13:32 |
| madrazr | saviet: we did quite a work last time | 13:33 |
| madrazr | saviet: thank to Lennard to having kept me motivated all along GSoC | 13:33 |
| saviet | cool | 13:33 |
| madrazr | saviet: he is a mentor anyone would dream to have and I was lucky to have him | 13:33 |
| saviet | ok :) | 13:33 |
| madrazr | saviet: and of course all the diagrams there were done by him since I did not know how to do that at that moment :P | 13:34 |
| saviet | oh okie | 13:34 |
| madrazr | saviet: anyways | 13:34 |
| madrazr | coming back to this project | 13:34 |
| madrazr | :) | 13:34 |
| saviet | yes | 13:34 |
| madrazr | saviet: quite a few questions | 13:35 |
| madrazr | saviet: we have asked this several times, we asked this in our conf. call this monday too | 13:35 |
| madrazr | saviet: I am asking you again now, you need to give me a very clear idea about it now | 13:35 |
| madrazr | saviet: what are you obligations during this summer? | 13:35 |
| madrazr | saviet: any plans to take off | 13:35 |
| madrazr | saviet: any other work? | 13:36 |
| madrazr | saviet: please give a very clear idea to me | 13:36 |
| saviet | No. as of now I do not have any plans for a holiday this summer. | 13:36 |
| madrazr | saviet: don't hide anything, be free. We are completely Ok if you have something else in between, but please do let me know | 13:36 |
| saviet | no other jobs as well. | 13:36 |
| madrazr | saviet: this is till mid August, i.e end of GSoC? | 13:36 |
| saviet | so it should be this full-time until august | 13:37 |
| saviet | yup | 13:37 |
| madrazr | saviet: great | 13:37 |
| saviet | all my job application, i have indicated availability only from aug | 13:37 |
| madrazr | and how frequently will you be able to meet me or I will be able to meet you? | 13:37 |
| madrazr | saviet: very nice! | 13:37 |
| saviet | well i am new to this but i think once development | 13:37 |
| saviet | work starts | 13:37 |
| saviet | i will have a lot of stuff to ask | 13:37 |
| saviet | so maybe twice a week | 13:38 |
| saviet | ? | 13:38 |
| madrazr | saviet: sure, you will have to :) | 13:38 |
| saviet | unless I have more to ask then we can schedule a meeting then | 13:38 |
| saviet | or mail or something like that | 13:38 |
| madrazr | saviet: I am not really asking for an official meeting or something of this kind we are doing now | 13:38 |
| madrazr | in general for talk or a chat about the project | 13:38 |
| saviet | u mean immidiately now? | 13:39 |
| saviet | or u like on a regular basis? | 13:39 |
| madrazr | saviet: well anyways leave it for now | 13:39 |
| madrazr | we will take this out of this meeting | 13:39 |
| saviet | ok | 13:39 |
| madrazr | I will talk to you about this later, this meeting is really intended to be a design discussion | 13:39 |
| saviet | ok | 13:39 |
| madrazr | just remind me post meeting | 13:39 |
| saviet | ok will do | 13:39 |
| saviet | u said u would tell me about the | 13:40 |
| saviet | local repository | 13:40 |
| saviet | subversion etc today | 13:40 |
| madrazr | saviet: Oh yeah | 13:40 |
| madrazr | saviet: thanks for reminding | 13:40 |
| saviet | yes no probs | 13:40 |
| saviet | i made a clone as said at the meeting | 13:40 |
| saviet | and have got a local copy | 13:41 |
| saviet | which i can deploy on my machine now | 13:41 |
| madrazr | saviet: cool! | 13:41 |
| saviet | not sure how to deploy on app engine tough | 13:41 |
| saviet | :( | 13:41 |
| madrazr | saviet: so yeah, what is your experience with Open source development in general, to be more specific have you used revision control systems, either with Open source development or with any other project? | 13:41 |
| saviet | i have used SVN | 13:41 |
| madrazr | saviet: I will help you with deploying, don't worry. It is very easy | 13:41 |
| saviet | for some projects | 13:42 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 13:42 |
| saviet | so ma familiar with that | 13:42 |
| saviet | although i went thru some tutorials on mercurial | 13:42 |
| saviet | and was able to follow thru | 13:42 |
| madrazr | saviet: we use a RCS called Mercurial (hg) which is based on a slightly different concept called as distributed RCS | 13:42 |
| saviet | ok | 13:42 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok. Nice | 13:42 |
| madrazr | saviet: well, if you want you can go through hginit.com as well. Very nice hg stuff | 13:43 |
| saviet | ok | 13:43 |
| madrazr | saviet: and ask me if you want any help with that | 13:43 |
| saviet | ok will do | 13:43 |
| madrazr | saviet: so basically you must be familiar with these stuff in hg | 13:43 |
| madrazr | saviet: how to create your own local stuff of the repo (which you have already done), how to create diffs and patches, how to commit and how to export patches | 13:44 |
| madrazr | saviet: and how to push back your commits to the repository | 13:44 |
| saviet | ok | 13:44 |
| madrazr | saviet: well enough of it for now I think, ping me anytime you want help with hg | 13:44 |
| saviet | ok | 13:44 |
| madrazr | saviet: so did you get any time to think about the project? | 13:45 |
| saviet | well i did | 13:45 |
| saviet | but i have not created any documentation as yet | 13:45 |
| saviet | so now to set about presenting the design | 13:46 |
| madrazr | saviet: did not get your last sentence | 13:46 |
| madrazr | what do you mean? | 13:46 |
| saviet | i have to go into the implementation details as well right | 13:46 |
| saviet | such as what kind of data models | 13:46 |
| madrazr | saviet: yes | 13:46 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah | 13:46 |
| saviet | and interactions between them | 13:46 |
| madrazr | saviet: yup | 13:47 |
| saviet | and templates etc | 13:47 |
| saviet | ok ok | 13:47 |
| madrazr | saviet: you think about it and put it up in the wiki. We can collaboratively edit it later | 13:47 |
| madrazr | not wise to discuss in this meeting about such minute details I think | 13:47 |
| madrazr | it will be more of talking than doing work in that case | 13:48 |
| saviet | ok i will do that and mail u once i have updated the wiki | 13:48 |
| madrazr | saviet: sure | 13:48 |
| madrazr | saviet: What I would like to discuss now is what kind of APIs do you intend to use and stuff | 13:48 |
| saviet | ok | 13:48 |
| saviet | so for the geogrpahic | 13:49 |
| saviet | location | 13:49 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah? | 13:49 |
| saviet | display we have to use google maps api | 13:49 |
| saviet | and the UI | 13:49 |
| saviet | there is a deault UI that can be used | 13:49 |
| saviet | however i think we might need to add on/ or create a new one | 13:50 |
| saviet | for our requirements | 13:50 |
| madrazr | saviet: like? | 13:50 |
| saviet | such as have pop-out widget | 13:50 |
| saviet | when people scroll over | 13:50 |
| saviet | a given location | 13:50 |
| saviet | showing the users from that location | 13:50 |
| madrazr | exactly | 13:50 |
| saviet | or events at tat location | 13:51 |
| madrazr | correct | 13:51 |
| saviet | if we show events via the maps UI | 13:51 |
| saviet | then there will not b need for a calendar UI exactly | 13:51 |
| saviet | we can just use the calendar API to pull the data | 13:51 |
| saviet | and use this interface to display | 13:51 |
| madrazr | saviet: well I am not sure about that at this point in time | 13:51 |
| saviet | ok | 13:51 |
| madrazr | saviet: well may be yeah, we need to think about it again | 13:51 |
| madrazr | saviet: also we need to think about how we will filter the data? | 13:52 |
| saviet | u mean the events data? | 13:52 |
| saviet | or the location data? | 13:52 |
| madrazr | saviet: events and location | 13:52 |
| madrazr | and organizations | 13:52 |
| saviet | for location you said that we already have the location data | 13:52 |
| madrazr | saviet: we have | 13:53 |
| madrazr | we have data | 13:53 |
| saviet | so we just need to read from database and show in the UI | 13:53 |
| madrazr | saviet: I am thinking of the UI to filter as well | 13:53 |
| madrazr | saviet: let me explain | 13:53 |
| saviet | ok | 13:53 |
| madrazr | saviet: say some one says, I want to know all the students in Switzerland, working with KDE | 13:53 |
| saviet | oh ok | 13:54 |
| saviet | for this we can have a UI like how we currently have for listing accepted organizations | 13:54 |
| saviet | we could use this for filtering by location, | 13:54 |
| saviet | tags | 13:54 |
| saviet | and organization | 13:54 |
| saviet | all in one page | 13:54 |
| saviet | so if no filter is selected then all students/mentors are listed | 13:55 |
| madrazr | but we don't want to use lists here? we want to display the results in the map? | 13:55 |
| saviet | ok | 13:55 |
| saviet | then we could have a small form | 13:56 |
| saviet | when users can select from drop-down lists | 13:56 |
| saviet | location name and organization name | 13:56 |
| madrazr | saviet: yup something like that | 13:56 |
| saviet | however this might make it a bit messy | 13:57 |
| saviet | as the lists might be very long | 13:57 |
| saviet | and require lots of scrolling | 13:57 |
| madrazr | saviet: we don't have the lists at all for this right? | 13:57 |
| madrazr | the results are not shown in the lists at all? | 13:57 |
| saviet | u mean in the current lists on melange? | 13:58 |
| madrazr | (Oh btw sorry for distracting, before I forget, will you be able to post the summary of this meeting please?) | 13:58 |
| saviet | yes yes | 13:58 |
| madrazr | saviet: forget about current lists for now | 13:58 |
| saviet | i will post it tomorrow | 13:58 |
| madrazr | (Ok sure) | 13:58 |
| madrazr | saviet: just think about what our new UI | 13:58 |
| saviet | would look like? | 13:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: and how you will implement this in the backend? | 13:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: I don't know now, whatever you think would look better and usable | 13:59 |
| saviet | ok | 13:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: you are a GSoC student too, think as a user what you would prefer | 13:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: I visualize something like this | 14:00 |
| saviet | i would prefer an AJAXy type of UI | 14:00 |
| saviet | ok | 14:00 |
| saviet | tell me | 14:00 |
| madrazr | saviet: thats correct. I have the same thing in my mind too | 14:00 |
| madrazr | saviet: we will have a UI that shows a map and there are certain fields | 14:00 |
| saviet | ok | 14:00 |
| madrazr | initially when the user visits the page and with no data entered in, it shows the students or mentors closest to him in terms of proximity | 14:01 |
| saviet | ok | 14:01 |
| madrazr | proximity may be or may not be distance based | 14:01 |
| madrazr | it may be organization based also, we can think about that later, should not be hard | 14:01 |
| madrazr | he will start keying in the data in the fields and he will see the map changing | 14:02 |
| madrazr | rather items displayed on the map changing? | 14:02 |
| saviet | ok | 14:02 |
| saviet | yes tat sounds good | 14:03 |
| madrazr | saviet: but might not be very easy to implement | 14:03 |
| saviet | yup, because there are many levels of filtering | 14:03 |
| madrazr | we may have to make some changes owing to feasibility and stupid restrictions from Appengine :P | 14:03 |
| madrazr | saviet: yup | 14:03 |
| saviet | oh wat kind of restrictions? | 14:03 |
| madrazr | saviet: Appengine has several, | 14:04 |
| madrazr | just a moment I will link that | 14:04 |
| saviet | oh ok | 14:04 |
| madrazr | saviet: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html | 14:05 |
| tpb | Title: Quotas - Google App Engine - Google Code (at code.google.com) | 14:05 |
| madrazr | also there are other restrictions like you can run only 30 sub queries within a query and such stuff, for which we may have to figure out work arounds | 14:05 |
| saviet | oh | 14:05 |
| saviet | ok | 14:05 |
| madrazr | saviet: anyways coming back | 14:06 |
| saviet | i guess we will have to handle that when the implementation gets done | 14:06 |
| saviet | ok | 14:06 |
| madrazr | but I am still wondering how calendar will pop in here | 14:07 |
| madrazr | saviet: think something about that too | 14:08 |
| madrazr | saviet: also we need to have a very clear algorithm to do this stuff | 14:09 |
| saviet | well i was thinking | 14:09 |
| madrazr | saviet: finding people by proximity | 14:09 |
| saviet | well in the ideas page | 14:09 |
| saviet | geomodel was suggested | 14:09 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah? | 14:09 |
| madrazr | saviet: let me read once again, just to recollect | 14:09 |
| saviet | it does some level | 14:10 |
| saviet | of querying on geographic data | 14:10 |
| saviet | but i dont know how sophisticated it is | 14:10 |
| madrazr | saviet: sure, yeah | 14:11 |
| madrazr | saviet: I have read through the docs of geomodel project | 14:11 |
| saviet | they have a proximity qyery | 14:11 |
| madrazr | saviet: great! | 14:11 |
| madrazr | saviet: so you are using that? | 14:11 |
| saviet | yes i think i can use that | 14:11 |
| madrazr | saviet: cool! I will say, go ahead! | 14:12 |
| saviet | this can be done at different level | 14:12 |
| saviet | such as even distance | 14:12 |
| saviet | by miles radius i think | 14:12 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:12 |
| madrazr | saviet: that will be very nice | 14:12 |
| saviet | its looking good | 14:12 |
| saviet | for the calendar | 14:13 |
| saviet | i tot we can move away from the traditional UI to something tat comes out of the map | 14:13 |
| saviet | since the map is going to be like the base for everything | 14:13 |
| madrazr | saviet: yes correct | 14:13 |
| saviet | so this can also be integrated into the filtering | 14:14 |
| saviet | like show "events" in "location" | 14:14 |
| saviet | similar to show "students" in location | 14:14 |
| madrazr | saviet: in date range? | 14:14 |
| saviet | date range could be there but | 14:15 |
| saviet | will there really be that many events | 14:15 |
| saviet | ? | 14:15 |
| saviet | that we might have to narrow the date range? | 14:15 |
| saviet | all events over the summer can be shown right since its only a 3 month span of activity | 14:15 |
| madrazr | saviet: when you consider worldwide, yes there may be quite a good number | 14:16 |
| madrazr | saviet: but in a region, no | 14:16 |
| saviet | hmm ok | 14:16 |
| saviet | well the api already has this provision | 14:16 |
| madrazr | saviet: yes what you said is correct | 14:16 |
| saviet | to query by date | 14:16 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:16 |
| saviet | there are also other details about the calendar | 14:17 |
| madrazr | saviet: also in addition, shouldn't users be able to see just calendars(without maps)? would that be too hard? | 14:17 |
| madrazr | saviet: yes? go ahead | 14:17 |
| saviet | like who handles the addition of new events | 14:17 |
| saviet | cos everyone cannot be allowed to add new events rite? | 14:17 |
| saviet | we need to have some sort of approval from the owner of the program | 14:17 |
| madrazr | saviet: correct, may be org admins also for org level stuff | 14:18 |
| saviet | ok so org admins and program admin | 14:18 |
| saviet | will have access | 14:18 |
| madrazr | saviet: yup | 14:18 |
| saviet | to ONE calendar only rite | 14:18 |
| saviet | so the whole program will operate with a single calendar | 14:19 |
| madrazr | saviet: wait | 14:19 |
| madrazr | saviet: depends on what this calendar can do | 14:19 |
| madrazr | saviet: is it possible to restrict certain users not to be able to see certain events on the calendar? | 14:19 |
| saviet | restriction based on user roles | 14:20 |
| madrazr | for example student from Melange may not be interested to see the IRC meetings of Apache Software foundation? | 14:20 |
| saviet | might be possible as this data is already there with melange | 14:20 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:20 |
| saviet | yes this restriction can be imposed | 14:20 |
| saviet | i had suggested this in my proposal | 14:21 |
| madrazr | saviet: with one calendar? | 14:21 |
| saviet | no at that time I had thought to have | 14:21 |
| saviet | one calendar for every orgranization | 14:21 |
| madrazr | saviet: I remember! But is this feasible with single calendar? | 14:21 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:21 |
| saviet | well it might be feasible but | 14:21 |
| saviet | the filtering will have to be done | 14:21 |
| saviet | by the code | 14:22 |
| saviet | i think it can be done | 14:22 |
| madrazr | saviet: why not if feasible and if it is not too hard and time consuming? | 14:22 |
| madrazr | saviet: good then | 14:22 |
| saviet | and as for the calendars only vire | 14:22 |
| saviet | view | 14:22 |
| saviet | it is not a probelm | 14:22 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:23 |
| saviet | i already found a library which allows | 14:23 |
| saviet | for simple display | 14:23 |
| madrazr | saviet: CalVi you suggested in your proposal? | 14:23 |
| saviet | yes | 14:23 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:23 |
| saviet | i tried integrating it with my local copy | 14:23 |
| saviet | and it looks good | 14:23 |
| saviet | it even has some youtube and maps widget supposrt | 14:24 |
| saviet | but then it allows only display | 14:24 |
| saviet | not adding events etc | 14:24 |
| saviet | so we will have to add some | 14:24 |
| madrazr | saviet: like? | 14:24 |
| saviet | forms and buttons to allow for this | 14:24 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:24 |
| saviet | however since not everyone will be allowed to add events | 14:24 |
| saviet | i was thinking of having like request form for those without rights to add events | 14:25 |
| saviet | but want to publish something they might be organizing | 14:25 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:25 |
| saviet | so if all orgs have their own calendar | 14:26 |
| madrazr | ? | 14:27 |
| saviet | would this mean that say if i am from melange | 14:27 |
| saviet | and i want to see what events another organization is having | 14:27 |
| saviet | i wouldnt be able to | 14:27 |
| saviet | because only those in that organization will be able to see | 14:27 |
| madrazr | saviet: I think better will be to allow Org Admin of that org to decide about that? | 14:28 |
| saviet | ok | 14:28 |
| madrazr | saviet: say publicly visible? Yes or No? | 14:28 |
| saviet | ok | 14:28 |
| saviet | sounds ok | 14:29 |
| madrazr | saviet: should be set about maps and calendar then? | 14:29 |
| saviet | yes | 14:29 |
| saviet | just one more thing | 14:29 |
| madrazr | saviet: yup? | 14:29 |
| saviet | now that we have so many calendars | 14:29 |
| saviet | how does this show up on the global map | 14:29 |
| saviet | say I select to see "events" at this "location" | 14:29 |
| madrazr | saviet: we are not showing calendars? we are just marking events on the calendar | 14:29 |
| madrazr | correct | 14:30 |
| saviet | so i will see events in program calendar | 14:30 |
| saviet | and my organization calendar at the location i want | 14:30 |
| saviet | i might see other orgs events | 14:30 |
| saviet | in my location | 14:30 |
| saviet | if they have made it public | 14:30 |
| madrazr | saviet: yup, doesn't it make sense? | 14:31 |
| saviet | yes it does | 14:31 |
| madrazr | saviet: cool! | 14:31 |
| saviet | ok as of now we have 2 views | 14:31 |
| madrazr | saviet: the user may also say, I want to see only global events | 14:31 |
| saviet | map + filtering | 14:31 |
| madrazr | i.e Programme related events | 14:31 |
| saviet | and calendar only view | 14:32 |
| madrazr | thats perfect | 14:32 |
| saviet | ok | 14:32 |
| saviet | i think next thing is to clearly categorize they types of filtering combinations that can be possible | 14:32 |
| saviet | and how they will actually be implemented | 14:33 |
| saviet | i will do this myself and update the wiki | 14:33 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah sure | 14:33 |
| saviet | can i also start with a basic uml workflow | 14:33 |
| saviet | for the feature | 14:33 |
| saviet | ? | 14:33 |
| madrazr | saviet: yes, go go! | 14:33 |
| saviet | :) | 14:34 |
| madrazr | saviet: we have left discussing another important thing | 14:34 |
| madrazr | remember? :P | 14:34 |
| saviet | yes! the second part of the project | 14:34 |
| saviet | ! | 14:34 |
| saviet | the user pages | 14:34 |
| madrazr | saviet: yup, which is very very important | 14:34 |
| saviet | ok so for the things on the user page | 14:35 |
| saviet | personal profile | 14:35 |
| saviet | blog widget /if any | 14:35 |
| madrazr | saviet: sorry? | 14:36 |
| saviet | project updates | 14:36 |
| saviet | some of the things that can be seen on each users page | 14:36 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:37 |
| madrazr | saviet: he must also be give more information about himself | 14:37 |
| saviet | is tat a compulsory thing? | 14:37 |
| madrazr | something more like a facebook/linkedin/orkut style profile information | 14:37 |
| madrazr | saviet: well. not really | 14:37 |
| madrazr | saviet: they are all optional to user | 14:37 |
| saviet | ok | 14:37 |
| madrazr | saviet: but for you, yes :P | 14:37 |
| saviet | do you have any suggestions for the UI for this feature? | 14:38 |
| madrazr | saviet: may be simple forms to fill in the data | 14:38 |
| saviet | ok | 14:38 |
| madrazr | and photograph if he wants | 14:38 |
| saviet | ok | 14:38 |
| madrazr | and lastly text field which takes in html to write about himself | 14:38 |
| saviet | ok | 14:39 |
| madrazr | saviet: keep in mind about the rss widget we suggested as well | 14:39 |
| saviet | this would be similar to blog entries | 14:39 |
| saviet | right | 14:39 |
| madrazr | saviet: I did not get you | 14:39 |
| saviet | i meant the text field which takes in html | 14:39 |
| saviet | like the blog entry text fields | 14:40 |
| madrazr | saviet: yeah | 14:40 |
| saviet | ok | 14:40 |
| saviet | so would pictures and all be allowed? | 14:40 |
| saviet | to be inserted into this entry? | 14:40 |
| madrazr | saviet: think of a design where we can add other widgets as well later | 14:40 |
| madrazr | saviet: not really, we can provide a separate field for picture | 14:40 |
| madrazr | and place it at some standard location | 14:41 |
| madrazr | saviet: I am not for giving that control to the user since it leads to confusion | 14:41 |
| saviet | ok | 14:41 |
| saviet | for rss widget | 14:41 |
| saviet | melange already has a feature like this right | 14:42 |
| madrazr | saviet: yes we do have it | 14:42 |
| madrazr | saviet: you can reuse it | 14:42 |
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| saviet | ok | 14:42 |
| saviet | and i had also suggested twitter | 14:42 |
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| saviet | we cld have a "tabbed" user page | 14:43 |
| saviet | (like facebook!) | 14:43 |
| madrazr | saviet: sure | 14:43 |
| saviet | with profile and project | 14:43 |
| saviet | and other stuff | 14:43 |
| madrazr | saviet: but we will have twitter etc etc as a Nice To Have and if you have time later, since these things are already bloating up | 14:43 |
| saviet | yes | 14:43 |
| saviet | ok | 14:43 |
| madrazr | saviet: yes thats a cool idea | 14:43 |
| madrazr | you can add that for now | 14:44 |
| madrazr | tabbed pages with profile | 14:44 |
| saviet | after the basic user page is in place | 14:44 |
| madrazr | and project | 14:44 |
| saviet | oko | 14:44 |
| saviet | okay | 14:44 |
| madrazr | go ahead | 14:44 |
| saviet | sounds good | 14:44 |
| saviet | i think i have more or less enough details | 14:44 |
| saviet | on design to work on formalizing it | 14:44 |
| madrazr | saviet: cool! | 14:45 |
| madrazr | saviet: in the coming days you will keep updating the wiki? | 14:45 |
| saviet | yes yes | 14:45 |
| saviet | i will | 14:45 |
| saviet | i think by weekend | 14:45 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:46 |
| saviet | i will have the design docs | 14:46 |
| saviet | up | 14:46 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok, keep me posted about stuff, also ping me about anything you would like to know | 14:46 |
| saviet | ok | 14:46 |
| madrazr | saviet: anytime, via mail, gtalk or irc or skype | 14:46 |
| saviet | okies | 14:46 |
| saviet | and am looking into the bugs suggested | 14:47 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:47 |
| madrazr | pick one of them up and try to fix them. Feel free to ask for any help | 14:47 |
| saviet | both of them | 14:47 |
| saviet | are related to notifications | 14:47 |
| saviet | how do i simulate the bug? | 14:48 |
| madrazr | saviet: I just forgot the bug numbers | 14:48 |
| madrazr | can you please give me both the numbers | 14:48 |
| madrazr | 890 and ? | 14:48 |
| saviet | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=884 | 14:48 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/5jDH> (at code.google.com) | 14:48 |
| saviet | http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=890 | 14:48 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/6WE$> (at code.google.com) | 14:48 |
| madrazr | saviet: just a moment, let me read them up again | 14:49 |
| saviet | ok | 14:49 |
| saviet | i think for 890 | 14:50 |
| madrazr | saviet: yup? | 14:50 |
| saviet | url needs to be changed | 14:50 |
| saviet | dependign on the stduent | 14:50 |
| saviet | accessing the application | 14:50 |
| madrazr | saviet: not really | 14:51 |
| madrazr | all that is correct | 14:51 |
| saviet | ok | 14:51 |
| madrazr | saviet: only thing that is missing there is socghop.appspot.com | 14:51 |
| madrazr | the url should be http:/socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/student_proposal/review/google/gsoc2010/... | 14:51 |
| madrazr | but instead it is manifesting itself as http://gsoc/student_proposal/review/google/gsoc2010/ | 14:51 |
| madrazr | socghop.appspot.com is missing and you need to add it | 14:51 |
| saviet | oh ok | 14:51 |
| saviet | ok | 14:51 |
| madrazr | simulating this bug should be easy | 14:52 |
| madrazr | wait a moment I will give you the command | 14:52 |
| saviet | i'll so that:) | 14:52 |
| saviet | ok | 14:52 |
| madrazr | what OS do you use for development? | 14:52 |
| saviet | oh yes | 14:53 |
| saviet | ! | 14:53 |
| madrazr | saviet: anyways was just curious, should not matter in any case | 14:53 |
| saviet | i forgot to ask you | 14:53 |
| madrazr | yeah? | 14:53 |
| saviet | i wanted to ask if i should use windows or linux | 14:53 |
| saviet | i have both and am comfortable with both | 14:53 |
| madrazr | saviet: use whatever you want | 14:53 |
| madrazr | whatever is convenient to you | 14:53 |
| saviet | ok | 14:54 |
| madrazr | saviet: but I strongly recommend you to use Eclipse with PyDev for development | 14:54 |
| madrazr | on any platform | 14:54 |
| saviet | so when i am doing my work and i deploy the application on localhost right | 14:54 |
| madrazr | saviet: you can see the videos on how to use Google Appengine on PyDev on Eclipse | 14:54 |
| madrazr | saviet: yup, thats correct | 14:54 |
| saviet | it takes incredibly long to load | 14:55 |
| saviet | and respond | 14:55 |
| saviet | so this makes testing my work very slow | 14:55 |
| madrazr | saviet: shouldn't | 14:55 |
| madrazr | at least on local instance | 14:55 |
| saviet | is this cos og the slowness of my pc? | 14:55 |
| madrazr | saviet: happened on both Windows and Linux? | 14:55 |
| madrazr | saviet: not at all | 14:55 |
| saviet | yes | 14:55 |
| saviet | i had to load and wait for quite some time | 14:56 |
| saviet | tat i went to check mail etc. before i got to thru the login | 14:56 |
| madrazr | saviet: may be it happens first time | 14:56 |
| madrazr | initially | 14:56 |
| madrazr | but should be fine after sometime | 14:56 |
| saviet | yup might be | 14:56 |
| madrazr | saviet: try again | 14:56 |
| madrazr | if the problem still persists, let me know | 14:57 |
| saviet | well this was weeks back the svn checkout | 14:57 |
| saviet | i created a new clone today | 14:57 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 14:57 |
| saviet | and have checked out so will try it with this | 14:57 |
| madrazr | saviet: shouldn't change much, but still let me know how it goes | 14:57 |
| saviet | ok | 14:57 |
| madrazr | saviet: btw as to how to simulate that bug | 14:58 |
| saviet | yes | 14:58 |
| madrazr | you can run this command in your console | 14:58 |
| madrazr | python -m smtpd -n -c DebuggingServer localhost:1025 | 14:58 |
| saviet | ok | 14:59 |
| madrazr | the mails sent should appear on the console when Melange sends it | 14:59 |
| saviet | ok | 14:59 |
| madrazr | you can read it and fix the bug | 14:59 |
| saviet | ok will do | 14:59 |
| madrazr | saviet: ask me or anyone else here if you want to know anything about the code base. Don't feel it would be silly and shy in asking such questions | 15:00 |
| saviet | ok sure | 15:00 |
| madrazr | the code base is huge and we completely understand that it is not obvious to navigate through it and find stuff initially | 15:00 |
| saviet | yes! :) | 15:01 |
| madrazr | saviet: thats exactly why you need to fix bugs, by doing so you will learn a lot about the code base and its structure and become well versed with it | 15:01 |
| saviet | but i will ask if my code navigation skills let me down | 15:01 |
| saviet | :) | 15:01 |
| madrazr | saviet: sure. just ask away what ever you want to know | 15:01 |
| madrazr | saviet: few things you may want to read up http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/ContributionReviews | 15:02 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/2WyY> (at code.google.com) | 15:02 |
| saviet | ok | 15:02 |
| madrazr | saviet: like how to write your commit logs, how to send patches and all | 15:03 |
| saviet | ok | 15:03 |
| madrazr | saviet: but anyways please let me know when you are ready to send your first patch, since I would like to have it in a slightly different but convenient way | 15:03 |
| saviet | oh ok | 15:04 |
| madrazr | anything else for now? | 15:04 |
| saviet | nope, i think thats about it | 15:04 |
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| saviet | will ping u on gtalk if anything comes up | 15:04 |
| madrazr | sure, shall we call this meeting off then? | 15:05 |
| saviet | yes | 15:05 |
| madrazr | saviet: great | 15:05 |
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| madrazr | saviet: few more things which I just forgot | 15:15 |
| saviet | ok | 15:15 |
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| madrazr | saviet: as we spoke in the conference call last week, we would like to have a status update of your project every week | 15:15 |
| madrazr | saviet: sorry, it is not that we would like | 15:16 |
| madrazr | saviet: it is a must! | 15:16 |
| saviet | ok | 15:16 |
| madrazr | saviet: a written report of your work that week and what you will be working next week | 15:16 |
| saviet | ok | 15:16 |
| saviet | will update right from this weekend | 15:17 |
| madrazr | saviet: cool! | 15:17 |
| madrazr | saviet: we would prefer to have it on our blog, if that is convenient to you | 15:17 |
| madrazr | saviet: or if you want to post it elsewhere, that should be fine too, provided you let us know before you start doing so | 15:18 |
| madrazr | saviet: choose whatever you want | 15:18 |
| saviet | yes, i will post weekly summary | 15:18 |
| saviet | at the dev blog itself | 15:18 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 15:18 |
| madrazr | saviet: Ok | 15:18 |
| madrazr | saviet: I am very very specific about this one thing | 15:18 |
| saviet | the weekly summaries? | 15:18 |
| madrazr | saviet: I would like to have the report by Friday night at any cost | 15:18 |
| madrazr | whatsoever | 15:18 |
| saviet | ok | 15:19 |
| madrazr | saviet: I need to have it before I wake up on Saturday morning :D | 15:19 |
| madrazr | no excuses | 15:19 |
| saviet | understood | 15:19 |
| saviet | :) | 15:19 |
| saviet | will mark friday night on my calendar | 15:19 |
| madrazr | saviet: so I can review your patches over the weekend and commit them | 15:19 |
| madrazr | saviet: great! | 15:19 |
| madrazr | thats all I wanted to say for now | 15:19 |
| saviet | ok | 15:19 |
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