Friday, 2008-11-21

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LennieSRabbelier, he isn't even here to be poked :P03:46
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SRabbelier|Uniheh, setting up your IRC clients, such a hassle07:20
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SRabbelier|Uni45 more minutes :)10:17
solydzajs37 :-)10:23
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: Lennie will be there at 5:1510:45
solydzajsSRabbelier|Uni: ok10:45
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SRabbelier|Unilh: hey! :D10:58
lhSRabbelier|Uni: hello!10:59
solydzajshi :-)11:01
solydzajswaiting for tlarsen11:01
lhsolydzajs: hello dear11:01
lhvery good, i will enjoy my coffee11:01
solydzajslh: Hello :-)11:01
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SRabbelier|Unispeaking of the devil :P11:01
solydzajsyep :-)11:02
tlarsenSRabbelier|Uni: Please do *not* refer to me that way.  Thanks.11:02
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: it's a saying you know11:02
lhwelcome tlarsen11:02
tlarsenSRabbelier|Uni: Yes, and one that I find particularly offensive.  :)11:02
lhanyone else we are waiting for?11:02
* durin42 is here11:03
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: I'll remember11:03
SRabbelier|Unilh: Lennie won't be there for another 10 minutes11:03
SRabbelier|Unilh: he got inducted while you were enjoying your time off11:03
lhSRabbelier|Uni: saw on list. shall we wait for him then?11:03
SRabbelier|Unilh: fine by me, what about the rest?11:04
solydzajswe are waiting for Lennie then11:04
SRabbelier|UniI'll let him know11:04
solydzajscouple more minutes11:04
lhsounds good, i will brb11:05
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solydzajsokie dokie11:05
* tlarsen wishes he had a bottle of NoDoze11:05
SRabbelier|Unihe confirmed he'll be there in 1011:06
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lhtlarsen: you dont really enjoy coffee do you?11:07
tlarsenlh: No, and at this point, with 3.5 hours of sleep, I probably need intravenous caffeine.11:08
durin42tlarsen: has too much blood in his caffeine system.11:08
tlarsenYeah, what durin42 said...11:09
SRabbelier|Unidurin42: lol11:09
lhtlarsen: that sounds like an optimal delivery mechanism11:09
* durin42 eschews caffeine whenever possible11:09
* lh hugs her coffee11:09
SRabbelier|Unidurin42: so when you feel tired you just drain some blood and increase the concentration?11:09
solydzajstlarsen: btw why did you reply with the same comment to all of the bad commits ?;-) you spammed my inbox :-)11:10
* tlarsen guzzles Diet Slurm...11:10
lhmmmm, slurm.11:10
tlarsensolydzajs: I wanted to make it obvious that each of those commits was erroneous.11:10
tlarsensolydzajs: And also, cut-and-paste is fun.  :)11:10
durin42SRabbelier|Uni: heh, no, I usually sleep11:10
solydzajstlarsen: heh :-) but spam is not fun :-)11:10
lhsleep is this thing i remember11:10
SRabbelier|Unidurin42: pffff11:10
tlarsensolydzajs: Oh, good grief, you all.  I couldn't have resulted in more than 15 easy-to-delete emails. :)11:11
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SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: hey man :)11:12
dmitrig01to everyone11:12
SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: good to have you here11:12
dmitrig01SRabbelier|Uni: :-) i'm only here for a few mins11:12
dmitrig01we have a "sleep-in" at school11:12
lhis there anything we should discuss while we have dmitrig01?11:12
SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: ah, ashame11:12
dmitrig01I'm "sleeping"11:12
SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: a sleep in? that's really cool11:12
lhdmitrig01: what is a sleep-in?11:12
solydzajsdmitrig01: we are having progress/status meeting in 3 minutes :-)11:12
dmitrig01lh: where school starts late11:12
SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: we never get sleep-ins :(11:13
dmitrig01solydzajs: cool. i am heere for 30 minutes11:13
lhdmitrig01: they so should have had those when i was in school11:13
SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: lately I always have to start at 8:45 :(11:13
dmitrig01I go to a music school11:13
dmitrig01we have concerts11:13
SRabbelier|Unilh: we can talk about searching / filtering list11:13
dmitrig01where we perform11:13
solydzajsI had my certificate of completion today ;-) we were wearing funny clothes and hats :D11:13
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: I was made to wear a hat too, at the gittogether :P11:14
lhsolydzajs: congratulations. i am so happy for you.11:14
solydzajsmine was something like that:11:14
* lh hands solydzajs a laurel wreath11:14
tpb<> (at
solydzajsI will have some photos soon :-)11:14
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: hehe, cool11:14
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solydzajslh: thanks :-)11:14
lhok awesome11:15
lhwelcome lennie11:15
lhlet's rock this meeting11:15
Lenniethanks for waiting all :)11:15
solydzajsok we are all set11:15
SRabbelier|UniLennie: heya :)11:15
Lenniedamn public transport11:15
SRabbelier|UniLennie: dmitrig01 is with us for only half an hour11:15
SRabbelier|Uniso let's talk about filtering the list view first?11:15
lhand i have another meeting at 9, let's keep this tight11:15
solydzajslet's start with dmitrig01 then, first of all how are you doing with free time dmitrig01 ?:-)11:15
dmitrig01solydzajs: 30 minutes11:16
solydzajsdmitrig01: not now, in general in the upcoming days11:16
dmitrig01solydzajs: oh11:16
tlarsenJust a reminder:  this meeting is about:11:16
tlarsen1) cutting a release branch11:16
dmitrig01solydzajs: i have the weekend, next weekend is thanksgiving (a few days off) and im not doing anything11:16
tlarsen2) what will be in it11:16
tlarsenWe need to know what will be shown to Chris on Monday.11:17
SRabbelier|Uni3) get leslie up to date on what's been going on11:17
solydzajsdmitrig01: ok, we will work on some tasks for you then :-)11:17
tlarsenSRabbelier|Uni: No, that is what email is for.11:17
solydzajstlarsen: ok can you tell me what's the status of User Wizard ?11:17
tlarsensolydzajs: It isn't written, at all.  Not even started.11:17
lhwe definitely need to be ready for our meeting with chris on monday11:17
tlarsensolydzajs: I fixed editSelf, though.11:17
solydzajstlarsen: ok I will send LH email with progress report ;-)11:18
tlarsensolydzajs: I can make that form have much better help.11:18
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: you did? *eyebrow*11:18
tlarsensolydzajs: By the way, you are going to become the project lead for the next 6 weeks.11:18
solydzajstlarsen: yes11:18
solydzajstlarsen: when do you leave ?11:18
tlarsensolydzajs: Tonight.  :)  I turn into a pumpkin.11:19
solydzajstlarsen: heh ok :-)11:19
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solydzajstlarsen: will you do some Melange coding too , during your pumpkin time ?;-)11:19
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: that was only after I did the move from the old-style though  :-/11:19
lhtlarsen: enjoy your leave11:20
SRabbelier|Unipumpkin king! :D11:20
tlarsenSRabbelier|Uni: Yes, but the form didn't work as committed, and it form.is_valid() was still returning false.11:21
solydzajsok let's discuss what is ready to demo, since User Wizard is not ready and I think it won't be ready till Monday, we need to decide what we are going to show to Chris on Monday11:21
tlarsenSRabbelier|Uni: I just logged the form object and saw the problem.11:21
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solydzajsthere for I would like to here from SRabbelier|Uni and Lennie what's the current status of invitations11:21
tlarsensolydzajs: I am going to try to write the User Wizard today, but no guarantees.   When are we going to cut the branch?11:21
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: it worked when I committed it, I'm sure :-/11:21
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: you can now create a invite, and see what invites you have outstanding11:22
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: ^^^^^11:22
LennieI've made an overview of requests on the role page on request of Sverre. The rest of the invites is up to SRabbelier11:22
solydzajstlarsen: I would like to propose to cut the branch tomorrow at 8PM UTC +111:22
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: maybe I can make it where you can accept the invite tonight11:22
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: how many hours from now is that?11:22
lhsolydzajs: will that give enough time to do testing before demo on monday?11:23
solydzajsnope 26,5h11:23
Lennielh: Depends on what we are going to show?11:24
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: I think I can finish invites to where you can accept them before then11:24
tlarsensolydzajs: If you are going to cut it, otherwise, I want to cut it later (night time my time on Saturday).11:24
solydzajslh: good question, maybe let's focus on fixing small bugs till tomorrow 8PM UTC+111:24
lhsolydzajs: sounds good11:24
solydzajstlarsen: works for me11:24
Lennietlarsen: Fine by me too11:25
lhLennie: agreed, just making the point that it is more important to have a working demo than a fuller featured demo11:25
* SRabbelier|Uni agrees11:25
Lennielh: Quality > Quantity :)11:25
solydzajsOn Sunday I will be travelling to Sweden almost all day so I will have time to test11:25
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: you have power while traveling?11:25
solydzajsSRabbelier|Uni: I will find something on airports :-)11:25
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: nice :)11:26
solydzajsI have 5h step over at Stockholm11:26
lhlook behind empty gate kiosks, always wokrs for me11:26
solydzajsok :-)11:26
Lenniesolydzajs: What do you expect to show Chris?11:26
solydzajsok I would like to hear the propositions of what we should demo on Monday please11:26
solydzajsLennie: it's not just me I would like to hear opinions from tlarsen , SRabbelier|Uni , you and me :-)11:27
tlarsensolydzajs: invites11:27
Lenniesolydzajs: I was interested in your opinion ^^11:27
tlarsensolydzajs: sponsor creation by a Developer11:28
lhdoes every committer have a feature to demo?11:28
tlarsenlh: No, because some of us are refactor monkeys all the time and only get to toil away at stuff under the hood.11:28
SRabbelier|Unisure, I can demo Invites11:28
solydzajsI agree invites should demoed, however we should point out that it's not finished yet11:28
solydzajsWe should demo current developer views11:28
* dmitrig01 does11:29
solydzajscause Chris only saw User views11:29
dmitrig01the menu :D11:29
SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: (it's awesome!)11:29
lhtlarsen: understood, we should definitely talk about what has been refactored and why also11:29
lhit's important11:29
solydzajsSRabbelier|Uni: do you send emails with invitation already ? If I get Host invite can I accept it and fill in the profile ?11:29
Lennielh: That's a good thing to do since that cost a lot11:30
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: no you can see what invites you have, but not accept them yet11:30
solydzajslh: question is whether Chris wants to know about that :-)11:30
Lennielh: That's a good thing to do since that *took up a lot of our time11:30
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: it -should- be a simple redirect though11:30
lhLennie: absolutely11:30
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: and adding an access check in host's create11:30
lhsolydzajs: it should be covered briefly, he can ask for more details as he likes11:30
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: but eh, who knows, I usually run into bumps along the way11:30
solydzajsIt's important to let Chris know that recent refactor will speed up development11:30
Lenniesolydzajs: agreed11:31
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: very much so11:31
* tlarsen nominates lh to play with the app on Sunday and decide what to demo to Chris.11:31
* tlarsen thinks we need someone who is not a committer, with a fresh perspective11:32
solydzajstlarsen: agree11:32
solydzajsso on Saturday night we deploy the app ?11:32
tlarsenlh: You are back from vacation now, right?11:32
tlarsensolydzajs: Yes, from the branch.11:32
solydzajstlarsen: ok11:32
* tlarsen laments that he has to go buy cattle on Saturday morning... would be more time to code :(11:32
Lenniefarmer todd?11:33
lhtlarsen: yes, though i have bronchitis. i am limping along.11:33
lhtlarsen: happy to kick the tires on the app on sunday11:33
solydzajsok let's summarize:11:33
solydzajs1) I will send Leslie update regarding Melange recent work11:34
tlarsenlh: You are the only on-site customer to which we have access other than once every 2 weeks.11:34
solydzajs2) We will create branch for demo on Saturday night (Todd's time UTC - 6 I think )11:35
lhtlarsen: correct.11:35
solydzajs3) Leslie and all other committers will test the app starting from today and also heavy testing on Sunday11:35
tlarsenlh: I would really like to find out how often you would be able to experiment with the app during each two week iteration.  (That is how long we decided the iterations would be, to match up with the every-two-weeks meeting with Chris.)11:35
lhsolydzajs: i have an article to write today, then i am all yours11:35
solydzajs4) Leslie will have a look and decide what we should demo, we will support Leslie on Sunday if she has any questions (I might not have internet access tho)11:36
lhtlarsen: i will make time for testing as often as needed now that i am back. i will be away during thanksgiving for a wedding though.11:36
tlarsensolydzajs: 2) yes, I will create the branch sometime Saturday evening.  I cannot commit to an exact time, but it will be before Sunday AM :)11:36
solydzajstlarsen: ok I will be sleeping anyway at that time :-)11:36
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: sounds good11:36
lhwhen should i be around on sunday california time so i can help best (i can stay up late/wake up early)11:36
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: are you creating an actual svn branch?11:36
tlarsensolydzajs: You can push the branch up sometime on Sunday, then.11:37
tlarsenSRabbelier|Uni: Yes.11:37
solydzajs6) on Sunday evening Leslie sends an email to the melange-dev with the demo proposal :-)11:37
tlarsenSRabbelier|Uni: an actual release branch in /branches.11:37
tlarsenSRabbelier|Uni: Is that a problem?11:37
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: nope, that's good :)11:37
tlarsenOr, I think this one should go into /tags, actually.11:37
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: I will get it as a new git branch from git-svn if all goes well :P11:37
solydzajsok guys that I miss something ?11:38
lhsolydzajs: will do on demo proposal mail.11:38
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: sounds good to me11:38
Lenniesolydzajs: That looks like a nice summation11:38
solydzajsLennie: I have a request for you11:38
Lenniesolydzajs: Bring it11:38
dmitrig01i gotta leave in 5 minutes11:38
tlarsensolydzajs: I am planning on just using the date as the release number for now.  There is no point in any v0.1 crap at this time.11:38
lhfolks, anything for dmitrig01 before he has to go?11:39
solydzajsLennie: Can you send meeting summary email to the melange-dev today ? Since I need to leave soon and might not make it :/11:39
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: go for it :)11:39
lhdmitrig01: have a wonderful day at school, too.11:39
solydzajstlarsen: I agree11:39
dmitrig01lh: thanks11:39
Lenniesolydzajs: Sure11:39
lhLennie: thank you.11:39
Lenniedmitrig01: You do javascript right?11:39
SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: Next thing after invites is filtering list view for me11:39
SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: I can do with your help then ;)11:39
solydzajsdmitrig01: We will let you know about JS tasks soon ok ?;-)11:39
Lenniedmitrig01: SRabbelier and I need you for that later on :D11:39
tlarsendmitrig01: I don't think we need anything for the release timeframe in this interval on your part.  Thanks for offereing.11:40
solydzajstlarsen: will you attend conference call with Chris on monday11:41
Lenniedmitrig01 <311:41
tlarsensolydzajs: Yes.11:41
solydzajstlarsen: ok good11:41
SRabbelier|Uniso, we're doing the conference call11:41
tlarsensolydzajs: Also, I suggest that we *not* have the next conference call after that.11:41
SRabbelier|Uniwhat about dialing costs?11:41
tlarsensolydzajs: (due to the holidays)11:42
SRabbelier|Unido we have to pay for calling an international number?11:42
solydzajsSRabbelier|Uni: I think we do have to :/11:42
tlarsenSRabbelier|Uni: that would be a good question for lh?11:42
solydzajsSRabbelier|Uni: I use my SkypeOut11:42
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: it's a +1 number though, innit?11:42
LennieI personally dont mind to pay a few euro's via skype ^^11:42
solydzajsSRabbelier|Uni: yes +111:42
SRabbelier|UniI have freecall, no problem there11:42
SRabbelier|Uniwas just wondering :)11:42
solydzajsWe have 7 more minutes, since Leslie has another meeting at 9AM, what else should be discussed11:43
Lennietlarsen: You are saying you want the next call to be in 4 weeks (after the one on monday)?11:43
solydzajsany questions ?11:43
tlarsenLennie: No, I was incorrect.11:43
solydzajstlarsen: ok we can skip next conference call and send Chris an update/progress email , what do you think ?11:43
SRabbelier|Unioh, during the meeting11:43
tlarsenLennie: We will have the next one, two weeks from Monday, but not the one after that.11:43
SRabbelier|UniI would like to discuss when the next meeting in Chicago is going to be?11:44
SRabbelier|Unis/?/, is that an option?'11:44
tlarsenSo, a call with Chris on 12/8 but not one on 12/2211:44
Lennietlarsen: roger11:44
* SRabbelier|Uni nods11:44
SRabbelier|Unisomeone update the calendar ;)11:44
solydzajstlarsen: ah ok, I would suggest that whenever we skip the meeting we send progress email to Chris and point him out to newly deployed app11:44
lhwe can get you guys calling cards or something for the call costs11:44
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: +111:44
tlarsensolydzajs: Yes, we can go ahead and push it somewhere and let him play with it.11:44
tlarsensolydzajs: Just no conference call.11:45
solydzajstlarsen: ok11:45
lhsolydzajs: great idea. lets also discuss with chris when our in person meeting will be tomorrow.11:45
SRabbelier|Unilh: thanks11:45
Lennielh: you mean monday instead of tomorrow?11:45
tlarsensolydzajs: We need a "steady" location that doesn't need to be emptied of data because we are breaking the schema.  :)11:45
solydzajslh: ok :-)11:45
lhLennie: yes sorry.11:45
Lennielh: Just checking :)11:45
* lh needs to shake this bronchitis, fuzzies her brain11:46
solydzajstlarsen: when we are breaking the schema I usually clean the datastore on my melange-dev instance11:46
tlarsensolydzajs: That way, Chris can accumulate data to keep the site growing.11:46
Lennietlarsen: Cleaning data is a part of developing, things change :S11:46
tlarsensolydzajs: Yes, and I am saying we need to get to a point soon where we stop breaking the schema.  :)11:46
solydzajstlarsen: yep that will happen soon :-)11:46
Lennietlarsen: You are right though, but are we at that point yet?11:46
tlarsensolydzajs: Then, we need to run the instance for Chris on another App Engine instance.11:46
tlarsenLennie: No.11:46
solydzajstlarsen: ok11:46
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: that would be about when we start writing testcases mhh? :P11:46
tlarsenLennie: It is a goal to get to that point.11:47
Lennietlarsen: agreed11:47
dmitrig01Night all11:47
dmitrig01bye all11:47
solydzajsdmitrig01: g'night thanks for joining us11:47
dmitrig01standard goodbye signatures--11:47
SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: cheers :)11:47
dmitrig01it's not night11:47
solydzajsok all, any other questions ?11:47
dmitrig01time for school :D11:47
SRabbelier|Unidmitrig01: have fun at school ;)11:47
Lenniedmitrig01: bye bye :)11:47
solydzajswe have 2-3 more minutes11:47
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SRabbelier|Uniso I can try and finish invites right?11:48
solydzajsquestions ? something we didn't cover ?11:48
SRabbelier|Unitill tomorrow?11:48
solydzajsSRabbelier|Uni: yes11:48
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: ok, good11:48
LennieSRabbelier|Uni: No trying, just do it :D11:48
SRabbelier|UniLennie: hehe11:48
solydzajsLennie: any questions ?11:48
Lenniesolydzajs: Hmm, bugfixing for me as I'm used to?11:49
Lenniesolydzajs: So no :)11:49
solydzajstlarsen: did I miss something ?11:49
solydzajsLennie: ok awesome11:49
tlarsensolydzajs: I don't think so.11:49
tlarsensolydzajs: After some sleep, I am going to try to improve the User profile stuff.11:49
SRabbelier|Unisolydzajs: thanks for hosting :)11:49
solydzajsthe meeting is over and we are awaiting meeting summary from Lennie later today11:49
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: can you fix site settings?11:50
lhsolydzajs: perfecto11:50
solydzajstlarsen: ok awesome thank you :-)11:50
Lenniesolydzajs: Will do11:50
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: since it was broken with your Linkable refactor11:50
Lenniesolydzajs: Thanks for hosting :)11:50
SRabbelier|UniI think that's a pretty important feature to show Chris11:50
solydzajslh: you are free to attend your 9AM meeting :-)11:50
tlarsenSRabbelier|Uni: Sure, after some sleep.11:50
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: ok, good11:50
SRabbelier|Unitlarsen: get some sleep then :P11:50
lhsolydzajs: great, i will also be online in a few hours after that and we can talk about your mail summarizing latest changes, i will also take a look at the mailing list11:50
lhtlarsen: sleep well todd11:50
Lennietlarsen: pulled an all-nighter?11:51
solydzajslh: I have to leave in 1h for a meeting with friends (students from my uni)11:51
solydzajslh: I might not be online later today :/11:51
lhsolydzajs: okay, we can catch up tomorrow then, will keep an eye out for your mail11:51
solydzajslh: but I will try to catch when I'm back ok ?11:51
tlarsenLennie: Of course, that is the only time I can get any code written.11:51
solydzajslh: ok great :-)11:52
Lennietlarsen: hehe, nn then :)11:52
solydzajslh: it's on my todo list :-)11:52
tlarsenLennie: My life is completely insane.11:52
lhsolydzajs: perfecto, thank you.11:52
solydzajsThanks everyone for the meeting11:52
Lennietlarsen: You are not the only one :)11:52
* lh sympathizes with tlarsen11:52
solydzajsI will schedule next one soon11:52
solydzajsHave a good day, evening :-)11:52
lhsee all of you online all weekend, today is article time11:52
tlarsenLennie: I am taking 6 weeks off to avoid completing the nervous breakdown I have in progress.11:52
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Lennietlarsen: I wish I could do the same :)11:52
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tlarsenLennie: three weeks of it is going to be without pay, which isn't nice.11:53
tlarsenLennie: I'll still be working on Melange, though, off and on.11:53
SRabbelier|Uniok, I'm leaving11:53
Lennietlarsen: sure, just take it easy :)11:53
Lennietlarsen: No more empty commits though!11:53
Lennietlarsen: Too much spam in my inbox :)11:53
SRabbelier|Unicheers! :)11:53
LennieSRabbelier|Uni: Byebye11:53
tlarsenLennie: It looks like we are making progress when the revision number goes up.  :)11:54
Lennietlarsen: hehe, one could just say you are a statslover :P11:54
tlarsenLennie: Also, it gives SRabbelier|Uni something to complain about.  :)11:54
Lennietlarsen: He always needs to complain :)11:54
SRabbelier|Unicya :)11:54
Lennietlarsen: keeps us on our toes though11:54
Lennietlarsen: As far as I can see in the past 3 weeksn not a lot of features have been added. But the code has certainly changed for the better11:55
Lennietlarsen: I'm confident in that it will allow us to move forward soon enough :D11:56
tlarsenLennie: Yes, we had a lot of technical debt to pay down.11:56
Lennietlarsen: I'll talk about some features in the next meeting I think (the one after monday :))11:57
Lennietlarsen: anyhow, I'm off to write a summarry11:58
Lennietlarsen: Sleep well11:58
tlarsenLennie: I think I'll just stay up at this point. :(11:58
Lennietlarsen: Your choice :)11:59
tlarsenLennie: Heh.  The way my life is going right now, I have no choices at all.11:59
tlarsenLennie: I feel like an animal with his leg caught in a trap.11:59
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tlarsenLennie: The only choice would be to gnaw off my own leg and bleed to death.11:59
Lennietlarsen: That's pretty severe :S12:00
tlarsenLennie: It is an honest reflection of how I feel lately.12:00
Lennietlarsen: I'm feeling a lot of pressure at the uni as well, everyone expects met to aces everything :P12:01
Lennietlarsen: and I'm getting sick of it :)12:01
tlarsenLennie: I cannot make the progress on Melange that I want to because of my stupid house, and I cannot make progress on the house to get the contractors to go away because of work.12:01
Lennietlarsen: take the 3 weeks to sort other stuff out then Melange12:01
Lennietlarsen: We'll be here12:01
Lennietlarsen: And Pawel is a good guy afaik12:02
tlarsenLennie: Heh, I'll be gone for *6* weeks.12:02
Lennietlarsen: even better :)12:02
Lennietlarsen: more time to sort out your life12:02
Lennietlarsen: I'm out for food12:07
Lennietlarsen: Summary incomgin after that :)12:07
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Lennie|GoneSummary is up14:19
Lennie|Gonealso in PDF form for the people reading it on the page14:20
Lennie|Gonesince that wrecks the layout :P14:20
Lennie|GoneOff for a nice game of volleybal :)14:20
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tlarsen|afkSRabbelier: How do I remove the List Site Settings menu item from soc/views/models/
SRabbeliertlarsen|afk: look at the getDjangoUrls method in soc.views.models.base18:07
SRabbeliertlarsen|afk: and also getSidebarItems18:07
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tlarsenSo, I need to supply a custom params['sidebar'] in the class, then?18:10
SRabbeliertlarsen: I would opt for overriding sidebar_defaults instead, but that's up to you18:11
tlarsenSRabbelier: I didn't know that sidebar_defaults existed.18:13
tlarsenviews/models/ has *lots* of configuration.  :)18:14
SRabbeliertlarsen: yes; I usually figure out how to do it by following the code :)18:14
SRabbeliertlarsen: that way you can see what it's using18:14
tlarsenSRabbelier: Yes, but there is no good place to start, so I use grep.18:15
tlarsenSRabbelier: by the way, why does this code in views/models/ use %(plural)s and not %(name_plural)s ?18:15
tlarsen    params['sidebar_defaults'] = [('/%s/list', 'List %(plural)s')]18:15
SRabbeliertlarsen: if you want to look at sidebar related stuff, start in soc.views.sitemap.sidebar, it directs you to the getSidebarItems method18:15
SRabbeliertlarsen: mhhh, thinko, name_plural would have been nicer18:16
LennieI'm off18:16
Lenniebye :)18:16
SRabbelierLennie: g'night18:16
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tlarsenSRabbelier: Yeah, the special code that is filling out the title format string could have just supplied params, instead of creating its own subset dict.18:17
SRabbeliertlarsen: feel free to fix :)18:18
tlarsenWill do.18:20
SRabbeliertlarsen: thanks18:20
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SRabbeliertlarsen: done18:58
SRabbeliertlarsen: the new multi-list thing is in18:58
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