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| lh | _Allen_: how are you? | 02:14 |
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| _Allen_ | lh: fine | 02:15 |
| lh | _Allen_: great | 02:16 |
| _Allen_ | lh: I am prepare for implement the logic of qustions/answers | 02:16 |
| _Allen_ | lh: and you? | 02:16 |
| lh | _Allen_: honestly doing not much. tired but talking to friends. | 02:16 |
| _Allen_ | lh: relax yourself, :) | 02:17 |
| lh | _Allen_: i am. :) | 02:17 |
| _Allen_ | lh: good | 02:18 |
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| solydzajs | tlarsen: ping :-) Hi | 11:25 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen: ping | 11:34 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: {{ entity_type|lower }} | 11:37 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: like that ,right? | 11:37 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: yes | 11:38 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: cool | 11:38 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: I replaced 'name_lower' with just 'name', and set it to "Sponsor: | 11:41 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: so if you want lower, you do name|lower | 11:41 |
| SRabbelier | also added a name_plural | 11:41 |
| solydzajs | where did you have name_lower ? | 11:41 |
| solydzajs | Commit patch to rietveld and we will review with Todd | 11:42 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: not sure I had it :P | 11:43 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: but I replaced it everywhere with foo|lower | 11:44 |
| SRabbelier | (where approrpriate) | 11:44 |
| solydzajs | ok | 11:46 |
| SRabbelier | cool | 11:49 |
| SRabbelier | rebasing went smoothly | 11:49 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: can't upload yet | 11:51 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: will do it in 1h when I get home | 11:51 |
| SRabbelier | (don't have the upload.py here) | 11:51 |
| SRabbelier | bbs | 11:52 |
| solydzajs | ok | 12:00 |
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| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: what's gotten you? | 13:08 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: will you be ok for the summit? | 13:08 |
| mithro | hey SRabbelier | 13:22 |
| mithro | SRabbelier: i thought someone else might be working on the refactor hence the email | 13:22 |
| SRabbelier | mithro: ah, ok :) | 13:22 |
| SRabbelier | mithro: it's done now I think | 13:22 |
| SRabbelier | ready to upload next version | 13:22 |
| mithro | this way just seemed like the correct way to start with :P | 13:24 |
| mithro | but maybe I jump to conclusions sometimes | 13:24 |
| SRabbelier | mithro: no, it was ok :) | 13:25 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: committed rename | 13:30 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: just reviewed | 13:39 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: can you commit the fix ? | 13:39 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: will do | 13:40 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: ok thx | 13:40 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: entity_type_short == entity_type | 13:40 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: not always | 13:40 |
| SRabbelier | mhhh | 13:40 |
| SRabbelier | ok.. | 13:40 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: Organization for exmaple | 13:40 |
| SRabbelier | dinner first :) | 13:40 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: has a short name 'org' | 13:41 |
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| SRabbelier | solydzajs: ok, makes sense now | 14:05 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: good :-) | 14:05 |
| SRabbelier | solydzajs: better now? | 14:13 |
| solydzajs | SRabbelier: yes thx | 14:17 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: I just generally feel bad, headache, body aches. My wife also had a sore throat, but I don't have that, thankfully. | 14:23 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: I hope you both get well soon | 14:24 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: the headache is the worst part; makes looking at the computer screen difficult. | 14:24 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: She is already recovered as of this morning, actually, but she had it for two days. | 14:24 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: aah, I can imagine; do painkillers help at all? | 14:24 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: no pain medicine except for really hard stuff like Oxycodone and Hydrocodone (Vicodin) have much effect on me, and those knock me out. | 14:25 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: I am allowed to keep a small, fresh supply on hand at all times, because I frequently suffer from kidney stones. | 14:25 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: lol, that's not really any good then | 14:26 |
| SRabbelier | ouch, those things hurt | 14:26 |
| SRabbelier | drink more water xD | 14:26 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: I drink plenty of water, and I also take Potassium Citrate, which has worked well at minimizing them for the past few years (I just passed a small one yesterday, though). | 14:27 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: it is genetic, as my mother, father, both sisters, and one brother (but not the other, yet, as he is only 16) have them. | 14:27 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: ouch, that sucks; my mom had one once, I hope I didn't inherit that from her | 14:27 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: I'm basically a walking kidney stone factory, and I've had three lithotrypsies and I'm scheduled for another one in a couple of months. | 14:28 |
| * SRabbelier just googled lithotrypsies | 14:29 | |
| SRabbelier | do they help? | 14:29 |
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| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: when some of your stones are 2cm in diameter, yes. | 14:31 |
| SRabbelier | 0.o | 14:32 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: you can't possibly pass those. | 14:32 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: no, best not :P | 14:32 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: did you want the parameter descriptions to start with lowercase? | 14:53 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: that's an unexpected question. | 14:55 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: how is that? | 14:55 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: I seem to remember you asking for that, but I'm not sure | 14:56 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: I tend to just follow English rules. If it is a complete sentence, I capitalize it and end it with a period. If it is an incomplete fragment, I don't. | 14:56 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: And, even then, I'm not terribly consistent, really. | 14:56 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: mhhh, ok | 14:56 |
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| SRabbelier | James--Crook: heya | 16:00 |
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| James--Crook | SRabbelier: hoya | 16:20 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: how's going? | 16:23 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: how do I get the string form from a db.StringProperty? | 16:25 |
| James--Crook | SRabbelier: ..so much to do. ..we've got a new contributor in Audacity who is superb, and I don't have time to try out what he has been doing :-( - have to leave it to other people. | 16:28 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: awr man, that sucks | 16:28 |
| James--Crook | SRabbelier: How about you? | 16:28 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: getting ready to leave to the USA | 16:28 |
| James--Crook | You have a machine readable passport? | 16:29 |
| James--Crook | (Some older ones are not) | 16:29 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: yup, I do, already visited once ;) | 16:29 |
| James--Crook | Have you thought anymore about what kind of help we want to ask for at the summit? | 16:30 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: not sure, depends on what we get done in the next week | 16:30 |
| James--Crook | I am not sure that that changes it a great deal. What it does change is how easy it is to ask for help. | 16:31 |
| SRabbelier | mhh? | 16:31 |
| James--Crook | Well... suppose everything slips by a week. We still need much the same things we need right now. | 16:32 |
| SRabbelier | right | 16:32 |
| James--Crook | Mentor Summit is an ideal time to find someone to help with security aspects. We sure need that. | 16:32 |
| SRabbelier | yes, very much so | 16:33 |
| James--Crook | So what other things... | 16:34 |
| James--Crook | I see a javascript wizard as someone to look for. | 16:34 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: yup | 16:34 |
| James--Crook | and...? | 16:34 |
| SRabbelier | not sure really, haven't thought about it like that | 16:35 |
| James--Crook | I really don't expect a lot of useful coding to be done for us on the day. What we can hope for is to get people interested, and possibly get some world-domination-interest in there too. | 16:35 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: yeah, same feeling here | 16:35 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: that's why i want the code to be clean | 16:36 |
| James--Crook | I think people have been underthinking Melange, and that's a mistake in open source. You get less far with a product that appeals to two people. | 16:36 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: underthinking? | 16:37 |
| James--Crook | We also have to fight that every single one of the GSoC mentors has already committed to their own project. That will always take their first slice of time (and there amy not be a second) | 16:37 |
| SRabbelier | How would you 'fight' that? | 16:38 |
| James--Crook | underthinking... Well, the wiki satrts of saying Melange is not a issue tracking system... it is not a CMS system... it is not the other... | 16:38 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: it does? | 16:38 |
| James--Crook | But what it IS is a (or will become) is an Access controlled database front end with some powerful CMS features. | 16:39 |
| James--Crook | ..Just finding the quote... | 16:39 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: ok, -nods- | 16:39 |
| James--Crook | At first, the GSoC web application appears to be part content management system, part issue tracking system, and part customer relationship manager. But, while the GSoC web application shares some features in common with those systems, it is quite different in its purpose. | 16:40 |
| James--Crook | http://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/MelangeIntro | 16:40 |
| tpb | Title: MelangeIntro - soc - Google Code - An introduction to Melange (at code.google.com) | 16:40 |
| SRabbelier | ok | 16:40 |
| James--Crook | Every successful open source project has a wiki. Most have a bugtracker (and it sucks usually) | 16:41 |
| SRabbelier | +1 | 16:41 |
| James--Crook | You can make a bug tracker that does not suck by using a wiki to capture all the things that don't quite fit the schema... | 16:42 |
| James--Crook | but then you need a way to query the wiki like it is a database... | 16:42 |
| James--Crook | So... what is really missing is a way to marry the flexibility of a wiki with the regularity of a database front end. It actually is not that very hard to do. | 16:43 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 16:43 | |
| James--Crook | The bug tracker I use at work has a very 'raw' interface to the databse, and that will not do for Melange. | 16:44 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: right | 16:44 |
| James--Crook | Anyway... that's WorldDomination.... and that's at least three months away. We need to llok at what we can get for the short term, using people who will be at the summit. | 16:45 |
| James--Crook | I've just noticed that tlarsen is marked as tlarsen|ill. Any info? (can pm me if appropriate). | 16:46 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: he's not feeling too hot, check the chat logs :) | 16:46 |
| James--Crook | I won't see them till tomorrow. Will do so then. | 16:47 |
| James--Crook | \me sends tlarsen a get well soon card | 16:47 |
| SRabbelier | ah, true | 16:47 |
| * James--Crook sends tlarsen a get well card | 16:47 | |
| James--Crook | What is your best outcome for the Mentor summit? | 16:48 |
| SRabbelier | mhhh, getting 5 new contributors, and some people interested | 16:49 |
| James--Crook | and how do they start getting involved? ..what activities? | 16:50 |
| James--Crook | GHOP is end of November, right? | 16:50 |
| SRabbelier | yup | 16:50 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: I kinda have to finish this math assignment and pack though | 16:50 |
| James--Crook | np. talk to you later. (What kind of maths, pure/applied?) | 16:51 |
| James--Crook | have a good trip. | 16:51 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: Numerical Maths | 16:52 |
| James--Crook | Doesn't tell me much :-) Anyway, all the best. cy. | 16:55 |
| SRabbelier | James--Crook: hehe, sorry :P | 16:56 |
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| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: I committed the new generic view code, but it is not enabled yet (no change in functionality) | 19:23 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: I'm hoping to give the new code more exposure this way, since it'll be very easy to give it a spin | 19:24 |
| tlarsen|ill | SRabbelier: OK, I am conscious again, so I will give it a look as soon as I can. | 19:25 |
| SRabbelier | tlarsen|ill: awesome! | 19:25 |
| SRabbelier | ok | 19:37 |
| SRabbelier | I am going now | 19:37 |
| SRabbelier | cheers! | 19:37 |
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