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| EXetoC | EKK: yes apparently. though what I think of when I hear the word stack in this context, is a pile of broken ships being towed away :p | 00:36 |
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| DasMuffin | EKK, article? | 02:49 |
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| DasMuffin | does anyone recall an old, old game that had a similar look to MoO, but it was more simplified? Like, it was a big star map, with options & interface to the right, but it was way more simplified-looking. just circles instead of stars. probably DOS or win 3.1 | 06:47 |
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| EKK | DasMuffin: Star Lords | 08:56 |
| EKK | DasMuffin: It was like a proof of concept version of Master of Orion | 08:56 |
| EKK | DasMuffin: It was only released publicly later on though | 08:56 |
| DasMuffin | hmm, might be it | 08:57 |
| EKK | DasMuffin: The article is for a Finnish indie IT/culture mag, about MicroProse game classics and free software games inspired by them | 08:57 |
| DasMuffin | I was a weeeee tyke at the time, hard to remember :( | 08:57 |
| DasMuffin | judging from screenshots, I think that's not the one I remember. but I'd be hard-pressed to say for sure | 08:58 |
| EKK | Well, if you played it in the 90's, I'd guess it wasn't Star Lords anyway. It wasn't released until later on | 09:02 |
| DasMuffin | think it might have had some sort of trade economy, like eve or caravaneer | 09:07 |
| DasMuffin | but a space game with controls on the right side >.> | 09:07 |
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| EKK | I've wanted to merge MoO with Merchant Prince | 10:21 |
| EKK | Master of Prince, Merchant of Orion | 10:21 |
| EKK | Shipping deuterium between Sol and Cryslon | 10:24 |
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| DasMuffin | wow, these are some of the crappiest space race concepts I've ever seen http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1093012264/beyond-beyaan | 11:19 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/+cKY> (at www.kickstarter.com) | 11:19 |
| DasMuffin | space hamsters, space parrots, and robot trees? the hell | 11:19 |
| Nagilum_ | hehe | 11:21 |
| EKK | DasMuffin: By the way, could the space conquest game you described earlier be Supremacy? | 11:28 |
| EKK | Or "Overworld" | 11:28 |
| DasMuffin | not supremacy | 11:32 |
| DasMuffin | overworld is very resistant to being googled - there's a PC game called war for the overworld, and overworld alone is a wide game concept | 11:33 |
| STalKer-X | there should be a list | 11:37 |
| STalKer-X | DasMuffin: try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_4X_video_games | 11:41 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/+cL3> (at en.wikipedia.org) | 11:42 |
| * Nagilum_ remembers Supremacy - shiny game, gameplay sucked a bit though | 11:43 | |
| DasMuffin | I'm not 100% sure that the game I'm trying to find is in fact a 4x game. I'm only certain that it's a space game with simple graphics, and controls on the right | 11:43 |
| DasMuffin | that's a nice huge list to start on though, thanks! | 11:43 |
| * Nagilum_ played Millienium II a few times (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a81tRHCTSWs) | 11:43 | |
| tpb | Title: Millennium 2.2 (Amiga) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) | 11:43 |
| Nagilum_ | the good thing about having played Millienium II for hours is that I still remember all the moons in our solar system .-) | 11:44 |
| Nagilum_ | or at least the 20 something used in the game ;) | 11:45 |
| EKK | DasMuffin: Actually it was Overlord, not Overworld... dumb me | 11:45 |
| DasMuffin | VGA planets looks like a strong contender | 11:49 |
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| DasMuffin | overlord appears to be a flight sim? | 11:50 |
| EKK | It's not | 11:50 |
| EKK | It's an early, surprisingly intricate strategy computer game that I never really got into | 11:51 |
| STalKer-X | vga planets is multiplayer :) | 11:51 |
| STalKer-X | but is a nice game. i want to get the full version | 11:52 |
| DasMuffin | vga planets looks very much like the vague memories I have of clicking on things and having no idea what I was doing | 11:53 |
| DasMuffin | some of these games are hard to get screenshots of, due to recent games (remakes or otherwise) with similar/identical titles being more well-known and filling up google images | 11:54 |
| DasMuffin | or the fan pages are text-only, because 25kb images take a long time to load on our 28.8 kbps modems! | 11:54 |
| Nagilum_ | http://www.vgap4-info.org.uk/VGAP4-Int/all/basecommandpage.jpg | 11:55 |
| DasMuffin | like this one: http://www.starsfaq.com/ reminds me of geocities/yahoo days | 11:55 |
| tpb | Title: The Stars! FAQ (at www.starsfaq.com) | 11:55 |
| EKK | Whoa! The name sounds familiar | 11:55 |
| STalKer-X | "Stars!"? | 11:56 |
| EKK | Yes | 11:57 |
| STalKer-X | one of the best 4x games | 12:00 |
| DasMuffin | I think if you download these files, you *might* be able to play the game....? http://wiki.starsautohost.org/files/ | 12:00 |
| tpb | Title: Index of /files (at wiki.starsautohost.org) | 12:00 |
| DasMuffin | great .avis in there either way | 12:00 |
| STalKer-X | but the usual crappy graphics :-) | 12:00 |
| DasMuffin | if anyone can find an actual screenshot of stars or overlord, please lemme know... those terms are a little generic :-\ | 12:01 |
| Nagilum_ | there is an open source clone: http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/screenshots.php | 12:02 |
| tpb | Title: Thousand Parsec : Screenshots (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 12:02 |
| DasMuffin | oh hey, take off the /files and you get a real wiki | 12:03 |
| STalKer-X | really? | 12:04 |
| Nagilum_ | yep | 12:04 |
| STalKer-X | cool | 12:11 |
| DasMuffin | pretty steep requirements for an old-school 4x game ;) | 12:12 |
| DasMuffin | Requirements | 12:12 |
| DasMuffin | Windows 98 (Windows 2000/XP preferred) | 12:12 |
| DasMuffin | 50 MB disk space | 12:12 |
| DasMuffin | 1024x768 or greater resolution | 12:12 |
| DasMuffin | Python and wxPython | 12:12 |
| Nagilum_ | because they're lazy! | 12:13 |
| STalKer-X | its dead, isnt it :p | 12:14 |
| Nagilum_ | that too - probably | 12:20 |
| DasMuffin | most big projects are :( | 12:22 |
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