Wednesday, 2010-01-20

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CIA-72FreeOrion: tzlaine * r3327 /trunk/FreeOrion/ (UI/FleetWnd.cpp server/ServerApp.cpp):04:49
CIA-72FreeOrion: Small changes to correct gcc warnings (including a non-void function not04:49
CIA-72FreeOrion: returning a value).04:49
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GeofftheMedioIngmar: ETA on that dinner?11:01
Ingmarhaha, sorry, completely forgot11:15
IngmarGeofftheMedio: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/167459/ is freeorion-0001-Use-HINTS-instead-of-PATHS-when-calling-find_path-fi.patch11:16
IngmarGeofftheMedio: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/167461/ is http://dev.exherbo.org/~ingmar/patches/freeorion-0002-CMake-Fix-finding-GiGi.patch11:17
tpb<http://ln-s.net/4r3D> (at dev.exherbo.org)11:17
GeofftheMediothanks11:18
STalKer-Xheh11:40
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BluelightHvor står det at det er alpha?14:03
BluelightOps!14:03
BluelightAnyone here?14:04
STalKer-Xno :p14:04
BluelightI'm testing multiplayer with a friend now.. )14:08
PERECilis there some kind of dedicated server for free orion?14:08
BluelightI had this issue with the production screen.. Was unable to build things.. But I found out I had to select planets.. Stupid bug..14:09
BluelightAlso I chould build thing several times.. Like having 3 shipyards on one planet..14:09
BluelightStupid bug as well..14:09
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GeofftheMediothere are no dedicated server yet14:21
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GeofftheMediofreeorion's not really in a "playable" state, so we haven't focused on things like dedicated servers yet14:21
GeofftheMedioas such, to arrange a game, you'll just have to fine someone on your own, and exchange ips, and make sure the host has an internet-visible IP addres... which might require port forwarding if you're behind a router14:22
GeofftheMedioBluelight: There are numers bugs with FreeOrion v0.3.13 that have been fixed in the SVN version.14:23
GeofftheMedioThere were some issues about the production screen in particular, but if you search the freeorion forums there should be some workarounds, although the problem has since been fixed (but no fixed version has been released yet)14:24
GeofftheMediobuilding multiple copies of the same thing on a planet isn't really a bug... it's just a missing feature to limit buildings to only one per planet14:24
BluelightOk14:25
GeofftheMedioit's not actually a simple problem to implement such limits.  there's a discussion about that on the forums as well14:25
BluelightOk, but the game crashes when I try multiplayer..14:27
GeofftheMediothat's a separate problem14:27
BluelightI see my friend connecting and I start a game, and then when I do something the game hangs..14:28
GeofftheMediodo you have a firewall running?14:28
GeofftheMedioit might help to run in windowed mode, in case there are some popups related to that...14:29
BluelightI set it to allow all now..14:29
BluelightDo you know about a good software firewall? I'm using Sygate, but it's been bought up by Symantec..14:29
GeofftheMedionot really, no...14:30
GeofftheMedioI was using zonealarm for a while, but kept having issues14:30
BluelightAlso, why is there two windows with FreeOrion..? A small CMD like window named FreeOrion and the game window with version number.. Sorry for asking al ot..14:30
BluelightYeah I know zonealarm is bad..14:30
GeofftheMedioif you're behind a router, and have the windows built-in firewall running, you're probably not at much risk14:31
BluelightUgh.. That firewall sucks man..14:31
BluelightIt's not a firwall at all..14:31
GeofftheMedioI did preface that by saying "if you're behind a router"14:32
BluelightMore like Wwindows decides what is good and badW14:32
BluelightOk14:32
GeofftheMediothe two windows is just how it's set up to run... I don't know the details of why it works that way14:32
BluelightWell I opened all ports, so I'm not safe behind ruter, he he.. :)14:32
GeofftheMedio(much like I don't know that much about networking)14:32
GeofftheMedioI think FreeOrion only tries to use 12345 and 1234614:33
STalKer-Xthe console windows is the server and the other is the client, i think :)14:33
GeofftheMedioyou may infer that not much thought went into selecting those numbers...14:33
BluelightYeah 12346 mainly..14:33
GeofftheMediostalker-x: no14:33
BluelightWell, it's kind of anoying..14:34
STalKer-Xso what is the purpose? if you don't know, get rid of it ;D14:34
BluelightHe he..14:35
BluelightFunny!14:35
GeofftheMedioit's an artifact of FreeOrion being a console application that uses ogre to create a separate window in which to display stuff14:35
STalKer-Xwell, an additional console window is good for debug output and stuff14:35
GeofftheMediohowever it also serves a purpose, which is being a console window to which debug output can be written14:35
GeofftheMedio... indeed14:35
GeofftheMedioit's also useful to have somewhere for error messages to be still visible after crashes14:36
STalKer-Xmaybe there is a way to hide the window when you make a 'release' build14:36
GeofftheMedioBluelight: did opening ports help any?14:36
BluelightAhh.. SO it's only for development process..14:36
BluelightI'm testing now..14:36
GeofftheMedioI wouldn't say that... I don't think it'll necessarily be removed for "releases"14:37
BluelightI had my ports open aready, but the firewall might interferred.. Turned that off..14:37
GeofftheMedioare you running windowed mode?  (don't use the start menu shortcut, which has a -f fullscreen flag built in)14:37
BluelightWell I like it good and clean with only one window..14:37
GeofftheMedioI'd suggest getting it working at all before optimizing your display settings...14:38
STalKer-Xhehe14:38
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BluelightIt's working now..14:44
GeofftheMedioyay14:44
BluelightI'm playing with my friend..14:44
BluelightHe he.. My friend didnt like the game so he quit..14:54
GeofftheMediomaybe try again when v0.4 comes out14:54
IngmarWhat's the status of AI atm?14:54
GeofftheMediouhm... it's there, but limited?  not sure how to answer really14:55
Ingmaroki14:56
BluelightHe he he.. he AI does nothing..14:57
BluelightThe*14:57
BluelightI won over them last time,.. they didnt even build better ships..14:58
GeofftheMedioif it literally does absolutely nothing, you might have a problem with python14:58
BluelightIt does nothing, and I don't think my computer is the reason..14:59
GeofftheMediocheck the AI log files in C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\FreeOrion for errors about trying to import pickle14:59
IngmarHow far is v0.4 off, btw? I'd normally not ask, but since you brought it up ;)15:00
GeofftheMediono set dates15:00
Ingmarfreeorion really has an awesome interface15:00
GeofftheMediodepends on whether tzlaine can find time to work on the combat system15:00
BluelightThere are no folder called Roaming15:00
GeofftheMedioare you on xp, vista or win7?15:01
BluelightXP15:01
GeofftheMedioC:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\FreeOrion15:01
Bluelight2010-01-19 04:39:48,713 DEBUG AI : AI_1 logger initialized.15:03
Bluelight2010-01-19 04:39:48,775 DEBUG AI : Python stdout and stderr redirected15:03
Bluelight2010-01-19 04:39:48,791 ERROR AI : Traceback (most recent call last):15:03
Bluelight2010-01-19 04:39:48,791 ERROR AI :   File "C:\Program Files\FreeOrion\default\AI\FreeOrionAI.py", line 2, in <module>15:03
Bluelight2010-01-19 04:39:48,791 ERROR AI :     import pickle                       # Python object serialization library15:03
Bluelight2010-01-19 04:39:48,791 ERROR AI : ImportError: No module named pickle15:03
GeofftheMedioas I thought15:03
GeofftheMediohttp://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=41225#p4122515:03
tpb<http://ln-s.net/4r60> (at www.freeorion.org)15:03
BluelightI have 32 bit XP15:04
GeofftheMediothat may be, but you still seem to have the problem that it doesn't work with the python 2.5 dll that was shipped with freeorion15:05
BluelightSo I should not install Python 3.1.1.?15:09
BluelightJust 2.6.4.15:09
GeofftheMedioinstall 3.1.1 if you want, but you need 2.6.4 as well15:09
BluelightBut it shouldnt be nessesary to install new stuff to get the game working.. :p15:13
GeofftheMedioyou can have you money back...15:14
BluelightHe he.. :p15:15
BluelightBut I don't find any file called python26.dll in the install dir..15:16
GeofftheMedioit's in one of the subdirs... libs or DLL or something15:16
GeofftheMediosearch for *.dll15:16
BluelightI did.. nothing..15:17
GeofftheMediouhm...15:18
GeofftheMediocheck windows/system32/15:19
BluelightI will try a reinstall.. :p15:19
GeofftheMediocheck first...15:19
BluelightThere was some options I might miss..15:20
BluelightI already uninstalled.. :p15:20
GeofftheMedioyou might try googling for python26.dll15:20
GeofftheMediomight be able to just download it15:20
BluelightYeah but is that safe?15:21
GeofftheMediodepends where you get it from...  not as safe as installing python 2.6, I suppose15:21
BluelightI found it in Sys3215:25
BluelightWhats the fastest way to test if AI is working?15:26
GeofftheMediostart a game with one AI and 10 systems, press turn, and open AI_1.log and check for error messages15:26
BluelightHow do I get the game into windowed mode?15:28
GeofftheMediostart run "cmd.exe"15:28
GeofftheMediocd:\wherever it is\freeorion15:29
GeofftheMediofreeorion.exe15:29
BluelightCan I make a shortcut with command to open windowed?15:30
GeofftheMedioyes.  just run wherever\freeorion.exe instead of the default shortcut that runs freeorion.exe -f15:31
Bluelighthttp://pastebin.com/d435a76f315:34
tpbTitle: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)15:34
GeofftheMediohmm.  exactly the same error that someone posted in the forums yesterday, but which I've never seen before that15:35
BluelightSo it's till not working? :p15:36
GeofftheMedionope, and I have no idea why15:36
BluelightOk15:36
GeofftheMediois your install of windows english language?15:37
BluelightYeah15:38
BluelightXP Pro15:38
BluelightSP315:38
GeofftheMediostrange15:39
GeofftheMedioif you could try the latest windows build and see if the same thing happens, that would be helpful..15:41
GeofftheMediohttp://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=420815:41
tpb<http://ln-s.net/4r6W> (at www.freeorion.org)15:41
GeofftheMedioalthough that might require updating from SVN to work... I don't remember if the v0.3.13 data files are compatible with the nearly-latest build15:42
BluelightHmm I wont bother.. :)15:44
STalKer-Xwow, a newer windows build :D15:44
BluelightOr maybe I will.. Is it the last post?15:45
GeofftheMediothat has a link to the latest one available15:46
BluelightYeah, but is that the newest post or any of the others.. There are 3 zip files..15:47
GeofftheMediothe bottom is the newest15:47
BluelightOk15:47
GeofftheMedioconsult the posted dates for reference15:47
BluelightHow do I fix the SVN?15:47
GeofftheMediocomplicated.  try without doing that first... it might work15:48
Bluelighthttp://pastebin.com/d64d74c6115:54
tpbTitle: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)15:54
BluelightAnd the game looks like this: http://infernusweb.net/hosting/BlueLight/freeorion%202010-01-20%2016-55-26-31.png15:57
tpb<http://ln-s.net/4r6o> (at infernusweb.net)15:57
BluelightGood that I made a backup, he he..15:58
GeofftheMediomost of those errors are related to data files being from v0.3.13, which updating from SVN would fix, but you're also still getting the TypeError: No to_python (by-value) error, which is basically what I was hoping to check15:59
GeofftheMedioso updating your data files wouldn't fix the AI problem15:59
BluelightOk.. I reverted to old files..16:00
BluelightWill there be a new working version of the game soon?16:00
GeofftheMediodon't know16:01
BluelightIs there some sort of mailinglist I can join so I get a message when a new version is out? whould be nice..16:03
GeofftheMediowe haven't really used one in years... usually there's just a post on the main page16:04
BluelightOk16:05
BluelightHave you tried MoO2?16:05
GeofftheMediono16:05
BluelightReally? You missed something then.. :)16:06
BluelightMaster of Orion II is king..16:06
BluelightBut I dunno if it works well in XP16:06
GeofftheMediodosbox16:07
BluelightYeah16:07
BluelightJust so you know.. Those logs I made lasts only a day..16:08
GeofftheMediothere was nothing I need to keep16:09
GeofftheMedio(that I don't already have elsewhere)16:09
BluelightOk16:09
BluelightBut the AI in MoO2 is really hard.. :p16:11
BluelightDo you want to play FreeOrion with me? He he.. :p16:11
GeofftheMediokinda busy...16:12
BluelightOk16:12
BluelightThen I'll take a break and play some OpenTTD after.. :)16:13
BluelightIt's a really good game..16:13
STalKer-Xthere was a win95 version of moo2 too16:15
STalKer-Xshould work with xp16:15
BluelightIt don't work, the computers now are too fast..16:16
STalKer-Xand don't forget the 1.4(0/1) patch :D16:16
BluelightWhen you click on something, you click ten times or so, lol16:16
BluelightOk16:16
STalKer-Xi thought only very old dos games had this problem :p16:16
BluelightNever really checked.. Will do..16:17
STalKer-Xit's an unofficial patch16:19
STalKer-Xi wished they would release the source for old games16:19
Bluelighthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Orion_II:_Battle_at_Antares16:19
tpb<http://ln-s.net/4r7-> (at en.wikipedia.org)16:19
BluelightYeah I wish so too..16:19
STalKer-Xworked well with doom16:20
BluelightPeerGuardian and IRC.. Bad!16:27
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