Tuesday, 2009-05-26

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kroddnGeofftheMedio04:23
GeofftheMedio?04:23
kroddndid I talk to you about changing the naming of StringTable ?04:23
GeofftheMedioif so, not recently04:24
kroddnno, its some time ago04:25
kroddnI deletet my FO trunk and forgot to fix this issue permanently04:26
kroddnI think we talked about renaming it to _StringTable04:26
kroddnits LOOOONG ago04:27
kroddnFeb 17 18:30:20 <GeofftheMedio> hmm.  well, you'd better email tzlaine about renaming the class.04:27
GeofftheMediohttp://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=248204:27
tpb<http://ln-s.net/3EER> (at www.freeorion.org)04:27
kroddnthx04:34
CIA-31FreeOrion: kroddn * r3099 /trunk/FreeOrion/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Renamed StringTable according to forum posting http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=248204:34
tpb<http://ln-s.net/3EER> (at www.freeorion.org)04:34
kroddnthere are to many sources to look for ^^04:35
GeofftheMedioyou were supposed to append an underscore, not prepend04:36
GeofftheMediounderscores at the start of identifiers are used for special purposes, I gather04:36
kroddndamn04:38
CIA-31FreeOrion: kroddn * r3100 /trunk/FreeOrion/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fixed Renaming _StringTable to StringTable_ according to forum posting http://www.freeorion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=248204:40
tpb<http://ln-s.net/3EER> (at www.freeorion.org)04:40
GeofftheMediowhat do you mean by there being too many sources?04:41
kroddnI mean I searched for that conversation but did not look at the forums04:42
kroddnI greped xchat logs, searched my mails and searched the Forum PM Inbox - but not the forum itself04:42
GeofftheMedioah04:44
kroddnpuh, now it links04:47
GeofftheMedioscons or shell scripts?04:48
kroddnshell scripts04:59
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kroddnGeofftheMedio: is there no close button for fleet info windows any more?06:09
kroddnpressing right mouse button is not intuitive...06:09
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kroddnGeofftheMedio: i now know what the problem with "scons configure" is06:33
GeofftheMediokroddn: is there a reason you switched to ccing my hotmail instead of my gmail?06:34
kroddnthe file options.cache contained the line "CPPDEFINES = ['OGRE_GUI_GLX', 'OGRE_CONFIG_LITTLE_ENDIAN']"06:34
kroddnGeofftheMedio: i just typed geoff into my mail programm06:34
kroddnwould you prefer gmail?06:34
GeofftheMedioyeah... the hotmail is mostly the dump for automatic mailings...06:35
GeofftheMediocommit messages, mailing lists, bug changes and comments, etc.06:36
kroddnokay - thunderbird had both mail adresses in my "collected addresses book"06:36
kroddnbrrr... temparature here droped from 33�C to 18�C06:36
GeofftheMediothe hotmail's also publicized a lot more freely, so that's not surprising06:36
GeofftheMediodown to 13 here.  rainy.06:37
GeofftheMediomay's been a weird month... rain and cool much more than april, which was all sunny and warm.06:37
kroddnhere the last week was very hot, now its rainy too06:38
kroddnyesterday I planted some salat in the garden - and tonight a very strong thunderstorm arrived06:39
kroddni hope it will survive^^06:39
GeofftheMediomy cucumbers died06:39
kroddnnever planted those06:41
kroddnI startet with herbage and tomatoes on my balcony last year06:41
kroddnand this year I expanded into my parents' garden06:41
kroddnI growed about 50 little tomatoe plants out of fruits I collected and dried06:42
GeofftheMedioI've not had a suitable yard in years, but this year I had soil and sun, so decided to try.06:42
GeofftheMediojust went to the garden store and bought a bunch of random plants in the hopes some wouldn't die06:43
kroddndoes freeoriond really need graphviz?06:43
GeofftheMediofor the tech tree layout06:44
kroddnk06:44
GeofftheMedioI'd rather replace it with custom code, but there are other priorities06:44
CIA-31FreeOrion: kroddn * r3101 /trunk/FreeOrion/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Made RenderSystem_GL loaded before searching for rendersystems in OGRE_STATIC_LIB mode. Updated static-linux build-scripts06:47
CIA-31FreeOrion: kroddn * r3102 /trunk/FreeOrion/linux-static/ (4 files): Fixes static build-scripts to run on Ubuntu9.0406:56
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kroddnhurray!07:53
kroddnNow the standard static linux version runs fine on ubuntu 9.0407:53
GeofftheMediospiffy07:57
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CIA-31FreeOrion: kroddn * r3103 /trunk/FreeOrion/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Ogre modules not loaded in right order crashes client. Loki Installer fixes.09:15
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bhelyerHowdy all.14:18
kroddnhi14:22
kroddnbhelyer: Windows or Linux User?14:26
bhelyerLinux.14:26
bhelyerWhy do you ask?14:27
kroddnI released 0.3.13 5 minutes ago14:28
kroddnwould you like to give it a try?14:28
kroddnhttps://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=75752&package_id=111134&release_id=68527214:28
tpb<http://ln-s.net/3EL_> (at sourceforge.net)14:29
bhelyerI'm tracking the source, but I can download and try the static build if you want me too.14:30
kroddnyes please, just fallow the link14:30
bhelyerIt'll segfault on start-up, though, unless you've changed something drastic - I have an ATI.14:30
kroddnah, okay14:30
bhelyerStill want me to try, or no point?14:30
kroddnbut maybe something has changed, as some people with ATI cards did reply positive feedback14:31
bhelyerDownloading now.14:32
kroddnWhat distro do you have?14:36
bhelyerUbuntu.14:36
bhelyer8.1014:36
bhelyerSorry I'm not more far flung. :P14:36
bhelyerWhat do you build these static builds on?14:37
kroddni won't upgrade to 9.04 on my notebook either14:37
kroddnOn debian lenny14:37
kroddnA debian lenny i386 chroot on a root server :-)14:37
bhelyerYou do good work.14:38
bhelyerYeah, I've long since learned not to be a beta tester for Ubuntu.14:38
bhelyerThey rush their releases out the door.14:38
kroddnMy girlfriend upgraded14:39
kroddnand has more problems then ever before14:39
kroddnthe touchpad doesn't work any more14:39
kroddnX was broken...14:39
bhelyerLike I said. Par for the course. That's a pretty impressive list though.14:40
bhelyerDoes Pulse work yet?14:40
kroddndon't know what you mean14:40
bhelyerOr at least to the point where the automatic answer to "I'm having sound issue X" is "disable pulseaudio".14:40
kroddnpulse audio?14:40
bhelyerYeah.14:41
kroddndon't know14:41
bhelyerWell, it gets a little better each release.14:41
bhelyerSo here's hoping.14:41
bhelyerkroddn: segfault.14:51
bhelyerOther than that, works fine. :p14:51
kroddnafter showing the main screen?14:51
kroddni mean, the black main windows appears and then crashes?14:51
bhelyerYeah.14:52
bhelyerMusic too, I think.14:52
bhelyerMaybe not.14:52
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vangerkroddn, where to write my tester efforts?15:57
kroddnoMobilmom16:01
kroddnoMobildid it work?16:01
vangerYes. Vector Linux 6.0 (Slackware 12.2-based), 32-bit, nVidia 8600GT with 185.25 drivers.16:02
vangerUngzipped and started16:02
kroddnoMobilnice16:02
kroddnoMobili'll write that down, you don't need to post anywhere16:02
vangerWindow mode works even on strange resolutions, but once fullscreen is selected, there is no way to return to window mode16:02
vangerSound works16:03
kroddnoMobilGeofftheMedio_: is there now way of going back to windowed mode?16:04
vanger"About" is ok, "Credits" scroll strange. As if FPS was 3-4.16:04
kroddnoMobilvanger: if thats true (fullscreen issue), you may write a feature request at sourceforge16:05
vangerHad nobody else met this issue?16:07
vangerQuick Start worked ok, scrolling of planets in the planet system is strange16:07
vangerWhen you scroll down to the bottom, it looks like there's a place for one more planet entry16:07
vangerIf I am not clear, I can make a screenshot16:08
vangerHow to exit Production or Research screens isn't immediately clear16:11
vangerPerhaps, Ascendancy-like approach (placing cursor in a corner of the screen and clicking, or just pressing Esc) will be good.16:11
kroddnoMobilnobody ever complained about that :-)16:12
kroddnoMobilthe fullscreen issue i mean16:12
vangerOk, I'll try to reproduce it again.16:19
kroddnoMobilI think there's no way of switching fullscreen<->windowed atm, because this setting is only applies after a new start16:21
vangerInterlaced stars look very bad.16:22
vangerI think, it's clear that if star doesn't have a name, then it is unvisited yet16:23
kroddnoMobilyou should de16:25
kroddnoMobilyou should post about those things at the forums, brainstorming here may be lost16:25
vangerHow do I add a ship or building in a production queue?16:26
kroddnoMobilI am not really involved in programming progress, currently I am doing the linux release and some german translations16:26
kroddnoMobilvanger: double click16:26
vangerYep, I saw that in credits16:26
kroddnoMobildrag and drop should work too16:26
vangerNo, both do not work for me16:26
vangerAfter alt-tab double-click started working16:27
vangerDrag'n'drop still didn't16:27
kroddnoMobilmaybe FO does not receive the mouse focus in Fullscreen mode?16:28
GeofftheMedio_pressing esc does exit the research, production and design screens16:29
GeofftheMedio_double click the item you want to add to the queue16:30
GeofftheMedio_there is extra space at the bottom of the sidepanel intentionally, in case the user wants to scroll up down more or doesn't want to have to move the mouse all the way to the bottom of the screen16:31
vangerNo, pressing esc did not exit them for me16:31
GeofftheMedio_switching windowed / fullscreen requires restarting freeorion16:31
vangerYes, I read it in the options16:31
vangerMy point is I can't deselect "Fullscreen" checkbox16:31
GeofftheMedio_testing... esc works for me.16:31
vangerWhat information about my system could you need?16:32
GeofftheMedio_if you don't like scanlines, turn them off in options16:32
GeofftheMedio_or post in the forums.  artists requested them.16:32
vangerExtra space doesn't look tidy for me, but that's my opinion16:32
kroddnoMobil"scanlines" seems to be a missleading option name, doesn't it?16:33
GeofftheMedio_then don't scroll down that far?16:34
vangerI'm terribly sorry, but I don't want to join forums. kroddn asked people on #winehq to test the game on broad variety of distros, so I'm doing it here and now16:34
GeofftheMedio_try switching video mode to "custom" in options... does a fullscreen toggle appear?16:36
GeofftheMedio_(or get enabled)16:37
bhelyerWhy do you need to be in custom to enable the toggle anyway?16:41
bhelyerIt's annoying to have to switch to custom, choose the same resolution, then choose the toggle.16:41
GeofftheMedio_not really sure...  doesn't make much sense to me, but that's how tzlaine set it up16:41
vangerhttp://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2506/freeorionfullscreen.jpg16:42
tpb<http://ln-s.net/3ENy> (at img32.imageshack.us)16:42
vangerCustom is graed out16:42
vangerAnd I am unable to uncheck fullscreen16:42
GeofftheMedio_I don't think a whole lot of thought went into it... there's a lot of other stuff going on on the options screen, and probably the default works for tzlaine...16:43
GeofftheMedio_is there a "Custom" option in the drop list?16:43
GeofftheMedio_there is in win32, but this may be a difference between linux / win3216:44
vangerAh, yes. After I chose it, I was unable to uncheck Fullscreen16:44
vangerAble16:44
vangerI mean, able to uncheck fullscreen mode16:44
GeofftheMedio_I got it16:44
vangerThat seems logical, but only afterwards16:44
GeofftheMedio_it's not, really...16:45
bhelyerif (row && row->Name() != UserString("OPTIONS_VIDEO_MODE_LIST_CUSTOM_OPTION")) {16:45
bhelyer                    m_width_spin->Disable(true);16:45
bhelyer                    m_height_spin->Disable(true);16:45
bhelyer                    m_color_depth_spin->Disable(true);16:45
bhelyer                    if (m_fullscreen_button)16:45
bhelyer                        m_fullscreen_button->Disable(true);16:45
bhelyer                }16:45
bhelyer            }16:45
bhelyer193:UI/OptionsWnd.cpp16:45
bhelyerThat looks like it could be where it's disabled.16:45
GeofftheMedio_for some reason tzlaine prefers to have the default be fullscreen in linux but windowed in win32, with the start menu shortcut having -f appended16:46
vangerIn linux it is windowed by default16:46
GeofftheMedio_hmm.  ok, well at least in linux the fullscreen switch is stored in options.16:47
GeofftheMedio_perhaps we need a -w windowed switch to undo -f that gets stored16:47
kroddnoMobilWindowed is the default in linux16:48
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