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| man1ac | i can't smoothly install and run melange following the steps on the wiki | 02:24 |
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| man1ac | anyone been through that? | 02:24 |
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| hammad_ | hi, i submitted my proposal for fedora. But, it showing that proposal has been submitted twice. Now I want to delete one of the two. But am not able to find option to delete duplicate proposal. please help. | 05:59 |
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| Ajish_ | Hi I have a small problem can any1 help me | 06:02 |
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| Ajish_ | Anyone ?? | 06:04 |
| Ajish_ | I can neither add proposal | 06:05 |
| Ajish_ | nor revert a withdrawn proposal | 06:05 |
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| Ajish_ | Any1 der to help | 06:20 |
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| jasvir | hammad_: hello | 06:40 |
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| jasvir | nathanielmanista: Hello | 07:26 |
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| hammad_ | ..jas i | 08:03 |
| hammad_ | J | 08:04 |
| hammad_ | jasvir: hey .. | 08:06 |
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| jasvir | hammad_: You are not getting option to withdraw your proposal? | 08:07 |
| hammad_ | withdrawing my proposal would send a email notification to org admin ? I dont want that :( | 08:08 |
| olly | hammad_: i don't think it sends an email, but I think we can still see it, but marked as "withdrawn" | 08:09 |
| olly | stuff in melange changes year to year though | 08:09 |
| hammad_ | its written, org admin would get a notification by email. No way to delete the proposal ? | 08:10 |
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| olly | i think it says "it'll notify the org", but that just means the proposal is now marked as withdrawn to us | 08:11 |
| jasvir | hammad_: I don't think there is a delete option. | 08:11 |
| olly | why are you so eager to delete it? | 08:11 |
| hammad_ | its duplicate proposal. | 08:11 |
| hammad_ | It also wont look good :) | 08:11 |
| olly | just mark it as withdrawn and comment "sorry, duplicate" | 08:11 |
| olly | we understand it's easy to do stuff like that | 08:12 |
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| hammad_ | okay | 08:12 |
| hammad_ | will do this way :) | 08:12 |
| olly | we also encounter the quirks of melange's UI | 08:12 |
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| [1]ascii | anyone there | 13:10 |
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| [1]ascii | how many have submitted their proposals for Melange project | 13:11 |
| downey | [1]ascii: many have :-) | 13:12 |
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| jasvir | Lennie: Hello\ | 13:37 |
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| man1ac | Hello | 14:18 |
| man1ac | i am setting up melange locally following the steps on the wiki. When i try to run it locally, i get the problem: "No such file or directory: 'build' | 14:21 |
| man1ac | " | 14:21 |
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| Lennie | man1ac, that can only mean that you have gotten another error before that | 15:35 |
| Lennie | man1ac, or you have not run the prequisite steps | 15:35 |
| man1ac | ok | 15:35 |
| Lennie | https://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GettingStarted#Setting_up | 15:35 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BMTK> (at code.google.com) | 15:35 |
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| man1ac | i just tried on a different computer and the error is coming from bin/paver build ste | 15:36 |
| heller | hi there, I am the org admin for "The STE||AR Group". I am wondering that nothing shows up under "My organizations" and that "Members of my organizations" gives an error. Can I just ignore that? | 15:37 |
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| andrejtokarcik | Hello everyone! It seems that the point 1.3(f) of GSoC Student Agreement contains an error. It reads: "(f) Google employee, agent, intern, independent contractor, representative or family member thereof, and you agree you will not state or claim otherwise." I believe "you are not" should be added to the beginning of that part so that it makes sense. | 15:56 |
| andrejtokarcik | Lennie, the channel topic looks to imply I better ping You ;) See above ^ | 15:57 |
| Lennie | andrejtokarcik, I can't do anything about that you need to mail the GSoC mailing list or carols directly. | 15:59 |
| Lennie | man1ac, if you can't figure it out then email melange-soc-dev with the info :) | 16:00 |
| Lennie | good night all | 16:00 |
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| [1]ascii | man1ac are you working on windows? | 16:23 |
| [1]ascii | i can help you in setting up git | 16:24 |
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| [1]ascii | man1ac are you there | 16:25 |
| [1]ascii | anyone there? | 16:27 |
| [1]ascii | i need help | 16:33 |
| jasvir | [1]ascii: Ask question, If anyone can help he/she will. | 16:34 |
| [1]ascii | i am working on windows, and has set up git. | 16:35 |
| [1]ascii | but while working on virtualenv there is an error | 16:36 |
| jasvir | [1]ascii: what is error? | 16:36 |
| [1]ascii | Unable to find vcvarsall.bat | 16:37 |
| [1]ascii | what to do now | 16:37 |
| jasvir | [1]ascii: What did google says?? | 16:38 |
| jasvir | [1]ascii: Have you tried this : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2817869/error-unable-to-find-vcvarsall-bat | 16:39 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BMWf> (at stackoverflow.com) | 16:39 |
| [1]ascii | I am unable to find relative answer | 16:39 |
| jasvir | [1]ascii: You are trying to setup melange at Windows? | 16:40 |
| [1]ascii | yes. any roblem on installing on windows? | 16:42 |
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| jasvir | [1]ascii: Actually I don't know about this. But once I saw conversation here regarding same topic and one of the mentor was saying that it is not a good idea. | 16:44 |
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| jasvir | [1]ascii: According to me, It is not a good idea. | 16:44 |
| jasvir | [1]ascii: Rest you can consult any mentor. | 16:45 |
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| [1]ascii | then for just this, i have to install a linux os | 16:45 |
| jasvir | [1]ascii: As I said, ask any mentor. ask it on mailing list. | 16:47 |
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| [1]ascii | i have not got any repply from them , since 3 days | 16:47 |
| [1]ascii | now what | 16:47 |
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| jasvir | [1]ascii: I am expecting madrazr here in ~2hrs. You can wait for him. In mean time, try to find out that all listed dependecies are available on windows or not. | 16:50 |
| ajitkr1994 | I have contacted the mentor with one e-mail address and I've applied through melange using another email address. What should I do now ? Please help. | 16:51 |
| [1]ascii | <ajitkr1994>wait for there response, they will take minimum 24 hours to reply | 16:52 |
| ajitkr1994 | how do I ensure that the mentor still knows that it's me ? | 16:53 |
| jasvir | ajitkr1994: You contacted mentor on personal e-mail? | 16:54 |
| [1]ascii | there is no such confirmation, you just have to wait atleast for 24 hours, if you do not get any reply, then try another mail. | 16:54 |
| ajitkr1994 | yes jasvir | 16:54 |
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| [1]ascii | I tried using google-group | 16:54 |
| [1]ascii | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/melange-soc-dev | 16:55 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-6HS> (at groups.google.com) | 16:55 |
| jasvir | ajitkr1994: Not a good practice. You are working on open source and communication should be openly. | 16:55 |
| [1]ascii | this is the link, you can find me as Ashcintosh Ashutosh | 16:56 |
| [1]ascii | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/melange-soc-dev | 16:56 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-6HS> (at groups.google.com) | 16:56 |
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| ajitkr1994 | the mentor himself told me to contact personally. jasvir | 16:57 |
| [1]ascii | how t=does the mentor told you to cntact | 16:58 |
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| jasvir | ajitkr1994: Well, there must be reason behind than. [1]ascii +1 | 16:58 |
| ajitkr1994 | on the mailing list. | 16:59 |
| [1]ascii | contact the mentor through which the mentor contact you | 16:59 |
| jasvir | ajitkr1994: Post it on same thread. | 17:00 |
| [1]ascii | have you linked the mailing list with your mail account, if yes, then you should be able to find an email address of that mentor on that | 17:00 |
| [1]ascii | or just ask mentor on mailing list to contact you, by providing your mail to him/her | 17:01 |
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| [1]ascii | how many of here are working on melange using windows | 17:10 |
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| [1]ascii | i want to know how many are going to develop melange on windows | 17:27 |
| gevaerts | Yes, you said that | 17:28 |
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| [1]ascii | then atleast one could reply | 17:30 |
| gevaerts | You're assuming that people who are paying attention to this channel right now know the answer | 17:31 |
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| [1]ascii | i do not want no of people. i want no of replies. Atleast people should reply that they are woking or not | 17:37 |
| gevaerts | That's not how irc works | 17:38 |
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| vivekjain | nathanielmanist1: Hi | 17:45 |
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| [1]ascii | nathanielmanist1: are you the mentor | 18:30 |
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| edu159 | madrazr: Hi, what mentoring organisations see about a student is his username, or just his public name and his real name ? Thanks | 18:45 |
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| madrazr | edu159: We show public name in the content | 19:04 |
| madrazr | we do not show real name | 19:04 |
| madrazr | edu159: we do not explicitly show the username on the proposal form. But it is not too difficult to figure out | 19:05 |
| madrazr | it is in the URL | 19:05 |
| madrazr | edu159: s/proposal form/proposal page/ | 19:05 |
| edu159 | madrazr: youre right >< ... thanks | 19:05 |
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| terceiro | hello, can anyone help me with melange? I am trying to fill in http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/register/org_member/google/gsoc2014 but the requests takes a long time, and then I get a "The connection was reset" | 19:08 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BMde> (at www.google-melange.com) | 19:08 |
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| ashishk | madrazr: Hi | 19:08 |
| madrazr | ashishk: Hello | 19:08 |
| terceiro | madrazr: ^ (I'm having problems registering at melange for gsoc2014) | 19:11 |
| ashishk | madrazr: on my local server,i have submitted a proposal , now how can i accept it , i went to admin dashboard -> proposal submitted , but there is no option to select it ,it is showing a simple list of all the proposals submitted for the program | 19:12 |
| ashishk | madrazr: i want to convert a proposal into the project ?? | 19:13 |
| madrazr | terceiro: please tell us more about the problem you are facing | 19:13 |
| madrazr | terceiro: when did this happen? | 19:13 |
| terceiro | madrazr: just trying to register as a mentor | 19:14 |
| terceiro | madrazr: I am trying since yesterday always with the same outvome | 19:14 |
| madrazr | terceiro: what browser do you use? | 19:14 |
| terceiro | madrazr: the latest firefox (iceweasel actually) on debian unstable | 19:14 |
| madrazr | ashishk: accepting proposals is a somewhat complicated process | 19:15 |
| terceiro | madrazr: one potential issue is that I am logged in with a google account from my employer, but I am filling in my @debian.org email address in the form | 19:15 |
| terceiro | would that be a problem? | 19:15 |
| madrazr | ashishk: the first thing to do is to sign in as org admin and marking the proposal as accepted from the actions menu on the left side of the proposal review page | 19:15 |
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| madrazr | ashishk: and then you should sign in as program admin and click on accept proposals button from the admin dashboard | 19:16 |
| ashishk | madrazr: i have done that , on the proposal submitted list it is showing true for the column ->(Accept as a project) in the list | 19:16 |
| madrazr | terceiro: the reason why I asked you about the browser is to know if your browser supports private browsing mode | 19:16 |
| ashishk | madrazr: but status is pending | 19:17 |
| terceiro | madrazr: ah, it does. do you want me to try with a fresh private window? | 19:17 |
| madrazr | terceiro: since you use Firefox which supports that, can you please try opening the browser in private mode and filling out the profile form | 19:17 |
| madrazr | terceiro: yeah | 19:17 |
| terceiro | madrazr: ok I will | 19:17 |
| madrazr | ashishk: what did you do exactly? | 19:19 |
| ashishk | madrazr: first i create three profiles for org,mentor and a student then i submitted a proposal for the respective org | 19:20 |
| ashishk | madrazr: then i logged in as an org admin,after that i accept the proposal | 19:20 |
| ashishk | madrazr: then i logged in as program admin and go to proposals submitted in admin dashboard | 19:21 |
| ashishk | madrazr: there i found a list which shows the proposal but with status pending and accept as a project column true | 19:21 |
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| ashishk | madrazr: in admin dashboard the subtext written with the proposal submitted link says "Lists all the proposals submitted to the program and lets accept individual proposals." | 19:22 |
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| ashishk | madrazr: but when i go to link i do not get any option where i can change the status of the proposal. | 19:23 |
| ashishk | madrazr: ^ | 19:23 |
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| cardinot | hello, comments of my proposal are sorted by name instead of by date | 19:28 |
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| terceiro | madrazr: getting the same on the private window. logged in with my google account, then filled the form as before, then submitted. it's spinning until now | 19:32 |
| terceiro | madrazr: this time I got a connection timeout | 19:43 |
| madrazr | ashishk: if you go to program admin dashboard you should be able to see this link "Bulk accept proposals and send acceptance/rejection emails" | 19:47 |
| madrazr | ashishk: if you go there and click the "Start" button | 19:47 |
| madrazr | you should be able to accept the proposals | 19:47 |
| madrazr | if not | 19:47 |
| madrazr | we are broken | 19:47 |
| madrazr | broken badly | 19:47 |
| madrazr | :) | 19:47 |
| madrazr | cardinot: please file an issue at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue | 19:48 |
| madrazr | terceiro: I am not very sure | 19:48 |
| madrazr | there haven't been any other complaints about this | 19:48 |
| madrazr | registrations seem to be working | 19:48 |
| madrazr | terceiro: may be it is your internet? | 19:48 |
| terceiro | madrazr: nope, everything else works just fine | 19:49 |
| madrazr | terceiro: do you have access to any other network than the one you are currently trying on? | 19:49 |
| terceiro | I can try over my mobile connection | 19:49 |
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| ashishk | madrazr: yes, you are right there is some problem with that | 19:50 |
| madrazr | ashishk: that's sad | 19:50 |
| cardinot | madrazr, done! ;) | 19:54 |
| ashishk | madrazr: i want to work on 2 things as my gsoc project 1.) want to work for umbrella orgs 2.) Try to automate the GCI winner selection procedure. | 19:55 |
| madrazr | terceiro: please try | 19:55 |
| madrazr | cardinot: thank you very much! | 19:55 |
| madrazr | terceiro: let me know how that goes | 19:55 |
| madrazr | terceiro: please make sure that connection is your actual phone data connection and not the Wifi that connects to the same network as your other computer from which you tried now | 19:56 |
| madrazr | ashishk: 1. Sounds interesting | 19:56 |
| madrazr | I would love to hear what ideas do you have on that | 19:56 |
| madrazr | ashishk: we can also sort of run a short survey asking folks from KDE, Apache, PSF etc asking what would their ideal tools be to facilitate their work | 19:57 |
| madrazr | if you get selected that is :) | 19:57 |
| madrazr | ashishk: about 2. I think it is not worth a GSoC work | 19:58 |
| ashishk | madrazr: i have drafted my proposal on melange ,please have a look at it here https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/student/google/gsoc2014/ashishk/5629499534213120 | 19:58 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BMgQ> (at www.google-melange.com) | 19:58 |
| madrazr | ashishk: I think it should take less than a week including writing tests and everything even for a new contributor | 19:58 |
| madrazr | ashishk: I will | 19:58 |
| madrazr | ashishk: also I don't like the idea of students working on entirely two different things during GSoC | 19:58 |
| madrazr | ashishk: leads to loss of focus IMO | 19:59 |
| ashishk | madrazr:yes, that is true but i think both of them are similar in coding part . | 19:59 |
| madrazr | ashishk: how are they similar? | 19:59 |
| ashishk | madrazr: because we have to do similar kind of stuff like writing tests,creating views etc. | 20:00 |
| madrazr | ashishk: that is true of everything in Melange | 20:00 |
| madrazr | ashishk: if there is an entirely new module that needs to be implemented on Melange | 20:00 |
| madrazr | those are true too | 20:00 |
| madrazr | :) | 20:00 |
| madrazr | ashishk: like for example, the new seeder module | 20:01 |
| madrazr | ashishk: but doesn't mean they are related | 20:01 |
| madrazr | ashishk: I don't think umbrella orgs work and GCI winner selection work are related | 20:01 |
| ashishk | madrazr: yes you are right the work is not related but i think the GCI winner selection work needs to be done so i divided my project in two phases 1st would be done before mid-term evaluation and other between midterm and final | 20:03 |
| terceiro | madrazr: well, now it worked. weird as my regular home connection is not showing any issues at all with anything else | 20:03 |
| ashishk | madrazr: please have a look at my timeline for that ,if that does not sound good then please tell me :) | 20:04 |
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| madrazr | terceiro: this is somewhat a known problem, but I can't comment much on it. May be you should talk to your ISP :) | 20:09 |
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| madrazr | ashishk: GCI winner selection thing is definitely not something that needs 5 weeks | 20:12 |
| madrazr | I don't think it is even worth considering as anybody's GSoC project | 20:12 |
| madrazr | unless the GSoC project itself is a mish-mash of a number of issues | 20:12 |
| madrazr | ashishk: it is something that I would expect a student to do in the community bonding period to get a hang of our code base | 20:13 |
| carols | madrazr: i would love for automation on issue 1607 though :-) | 20:13 |
| madrazr | also design document in the coding period, NO! | 20:13 |
| madrazr | carols: that's a priority for me too because that makes my life (or Nathaniel's) a little easy too :) | 20:15 |
| madrazr | carols: the blocking factor here is our platform (App Engine/Blobstore) | 20:15 |
| carols | agreed :-) | 20:15 |
| carols | madrazr: i know some googlers :-) | 20:15 |
| madrazr | carols: ha ha :D | 20:15 |
| madrazr | carols: you also know some Googlers who are now working full time on App Engine :P | 20:16 |
| carols | yes i do! | 20:16 |
| carols | i wish they were spending more time on melange | 20:16 |
| madrazr | sadly I don't have an answer for it though. I will continue to figure out | 20:16 |
| madrazr | *I will continue the search for that answer | 20:17 |
| madrazr | carols: ha ha, that needs more than 24 hours a day :P | 20:17 |
| carols | yeah | 20:17 |
| vivekjain | madrazr: Is it ok to submit proposals for two different project. Will it be taken as negative ? | 20:19 |
| ashishk | madrazr:thnks for your reviews , i wanted to solve the part 2 but i was blocked on this issue http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2065&q=coolyashish&sort=-id&colspec=ID%20Stars%20Priority%20Status%20Type%20Owner%20Milestone%20Effort%20Skills%20Summary | 20:20 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BMhL> (at code.google.com) | 20:20 |
| madrazr | vivekjain: definitely not, we don't judge you by the number of proposals you submit | 20:22 |
| madrazr | what we care about is high quality proposals | 20:22 |
| madrazr | and your work | 20:22 |
| ashishk | madrazr: also for the design document part,i think that week should be given for the survey phase that you mentioned above which would help me to develop efficient tools for the part 1. | 20:22 |
| madrazr | patches for fixes/new features | 20:22 |
| madrazr | your ability to use version control system | 20:22 |
| madrazr | and how your survive our stringent code review process | 20:23 |
| madrazr | tests | 20:23 |
| madrazr | etc | 20:23 |
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| madrazr | *how you survive | 20:23 |
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| madrazr | ashishk: survey should be done during community bonding period | 20:24 |
| vivekjain | madrazr: Can we edit the proposal after the student application period ends ? | 20:24 |
| madrazr | IMO, you should be ready to go all in to flood with your code once the coding gate opens :) | 20:24 |
| madrazr | you should have a good idea of your work to write code during the coding period | 20:25 |
| madrazr | I am not saying things can't change | 20:25 |
| madrazr | things always do change as we make progress | 20:25 |
| madrazr | as we learn things | 20:25 |
| madrazr | but not even having a solid plan before we start is worse | 20:25 |
| madrazr | brb | 20:26 |
| madrazr | got to run (for lunch) | 20:26 |
| ashishk | madrazr:ok,i got it so i should start working on it from now without wasting any time :) | 20:26 |
| carols | madrazr: can you help me with querying melange? | 20:26 |
| ashishk | madrazr: ok, thanks for your reviews :) | 20:26 |
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| man1ac | Hello everyone | 20:38 |
| ashishk | man1ac: hello :) | 20:41 |
| man1ac | is there anyone interested in the Melange project for gsoc2014? | 20:41 |
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| RaulT | madrazr: Hello! Can I bug you one last time ? | 21:37 |
| madrazr | RaulT: one last time? :) | 21:42 |
| madrazr | what is happening to either of us from tomorrow? I am afraid :D | 21:42 |
| madrazr | RaulT: go ahead, ask your question | 21:43 |
| madrazr | as the convention around here goes, "Don't ask to ask, just ask :)" | 21:43 |
| RaulT | madrazr: I mean I will submit my proposal and I will not bug you with questions so much :P | 21:43 |
| madrazr | ashishk: what do you want to start working on without wasting time now? | 21:43 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Has somone adresed this issue http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=210 ? | 21:44 |
| madrazr | Oh vivekjain left | 21:44 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BMmE> (at code.google.com) | 21:44 |
| RaulT | I'm considering it for my proposal | 21:44 |
| madrazr | man1ac: yes, many :) | 21:44 |
| man1ac | great | 21:44 |
| RaulT | I plan do first do a schema for the database | 21:44 |
| ashishk | madrazr: i mean, i need to start on part 1. tools for umbrella orgs . | 21:44 |
| man1ac | i am interested too | 21:44 |
| RaulT | to document exacly what changes need to be made for the conversion to be possible | 21:45 |
| madrazr | RaulT: ? 210 was fixed in Feb 2009? | 21:45 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Sorry http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2106 | 21:45 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BMmJ> (at code.google.com) | 21:45 |
| madrazr | RaulT: not bugging is a recipe for failure :) | 21:45 |
| madrazr | historically | 21:45 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Not enough chars selected :P | 21:45 |
| ashishk | madrazr: during the time you went for lunch ,i talked with terri and meflin on #python-gsoc channel and gathered a lot of information about the flow of umbrella and sub-orgs | 21:45 |
| madrazr | RaulT: as the thumb rule for GSoC goes, you need to keep communicating with your mentors/org | 21:46 |
| man1ac | madrazr: i find it difficult locating my mentor | 21:46 |
| ashishk | madrazr: i have made some points based on the chat i had with them | 21:46 |
| madrazr | ashishk: for the tools for umbrella orgs, I would like to hear your ideas before you start making any solid design plans | 21:46 |
| madrazr | or writing code | 21:46 |
| RaulT | madrazr: I will still do that | 21:46 |
| madrazr | note, your idea need not be final | 21:47 |
| madrazr | ashishk: ^ | 21:47 |
| man1ac | madrazr: i am still to submit my proposal, is there a way to contact a mentor and what is the fastest way? | 21:47 |
| madrazr | ashishk: rough directions is good enough | 21:47 |
| madrazr | ashishk: we can improve as we discuss | 21:47 |
| madrazr | RaulT: what do you want to do about 2106? | 21:48 |
| ashishk | madrazr:ok, As melange have no role among the umbrella org and its suborg ,so i want melange as an intermediory platform among parent orgs and its sub orgs. | 21:48 |
| madrazr | ashishk: cool! | 21:48 |
| ashishk | madrazr: here are some points i have made. | 21:49 |
| ashishk | Dashboard:(For Org Admin) | 21:49 |
| ashishk | 1. Add/Remove Suborg. | 21:49 |
| ashishk | 2. Manage Mentors : List of mentors will be shown and org admin will have options to assign/remove mentors to sub orgs. | 21:49 |
| ashishk | 3. Manage Proposals: List of Proposals will be shown and org admin will have a option to assign/remove proposals to its sub-org. | 21:49 |
| ashishk | Now as melange will have information about the proposals belongs to sub-org and the mentors belonging to sub-org,so we can generalize the proposals accordingly. | 21:49 |
| ashishk | Dashboard:(For Sub-org Admin who will be mentors for the sub-org) | 21:49 |
| ashishk | 1. Proposal Submitted: List of Proposal submitted to corresponding sub-org he is connected with. | 21:49 |
| RaulT | madrazr: I am thinking at first to study the database design and trace de dependencies within the data in order to make the conversion between profiles | 21:50 |
| madrazr | man1ac: here or ML | 21:50 |
| RaulT | madrazr: I anticipate this study will take some time. Then after I have collected the data based on the results proceed with the implementation ? | 21:50 |
| man1ac | I want to the the User dash board implementation for melange | 21:51 |
| RaulT | madrazr: My questions is has somone adressed this issue so I don't do the research all over again | 21:51 |
| RaulT | ? | 21:51 |
| RaulT | madrazr: And of course if this sounds like a reasonable course of action ? | 21:52 |
| man1ac | madrazr: my mentor is Daniel Hans | 21:52 |
| man1ac | madrazr: i have no access to any of the mailing lists | 21:56 |
| madrazr | man1ac: what is a user dashboard? How is it different than our current dashboard? | 21:59 |
| madrazr | RaulT: I don't think the issue has been addressed | 21:59 |
| man1ac | madrazr: https://code.google.com/p/soc/wiki/GSoC2014Ideas | 21:59 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BMn0> (at code.google.com) | 21:59 |
| madrazr | but it has nothing to do with datastore IMO | 21:59 |
| madrazr | RaulT: it is just a simple UI change | 22:00 |
| madrazr | a very simple one | 22:00 |
| madrazr | just a one line fix | 22:00 |
| madrazr | RaulT: it is just about redirecting the user to the right page | 22:00 |
| RaulT | madrazr: again i was sabottaged by my tiping | 22:00 |
| RaulT | madrazr: what i really ment to paste was this ode.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1492 | 22:01 |
| madrazr | RaulT: it is about what redirect to send | 22:01 |
| RaulT | code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1492 | 22:01 |
| man1ac | madrazr: that is the ideas page, the idea is to list all artifacts associated with the specified user or profile | 22:01 |
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| madrazr | man1ac: then join our dev mailing list | 22:01 |
| man1ac | ok, cool | 22:01 |
| RaulT | madrazr: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1492 | 22:02 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BMn:> (at code.google.com) | 22:02 |
| madrazr | man1ac: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/melange-soc-dev | 22:02 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/-6HS> (at groups.google.com) | 22:02 |
| madrazr | ashishk: your list of ideas sound good to me | 22:03 |
| man1ac | madrazr: i joined. Thanks | 22:03 |
| madrazr | ashishk: it generally seems to be going in the right direction | 22:03 |
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| ashishk | madrazr:thnks,i will do some changes in my proposal by tomorrow based on above points :) | 22:05 |
| madrazr | ashishk: this is definitely going to be a GSoC worth of work | 22:06 |
| madrazr | or larger than that | 22:06 |
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| madrazr | ashishk: I will be happy to take a look at your proposal once you make the updates | 22:06 |
| madrazr | ashishk: one comment about the timeline is, I would like to see a more concrete timeline | 22:06 |
| madrazr | it is too abstract at the moment | 22:06 |
| madrazr | ashishk: I would like to see what exact components you are going to have implemented at each phase in the timeline | 22:07 |
| madrazr | ashishk: just saying models, views and templates for all the features is not enough | 22:07 |
| madrazr | RaulT: what about it? | 22:07 |
| ashishk | madrazr:yes sure i will do the changes later,actually i have a class today from 8:30 and it is 3:38 A.M. so need to sleep :) | 22:09 |
| ashishk | madrazr: thnks again :) | 22:09 |
| madrazr | ashishk: alright good night | 22:09 |
| madrazr | ashishk: np | 22:09 |
| RaulT | madrazr: If somone has tried to document the changes that have to be made to change between student/mentor profiles | 22:09 |
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| RaulT | madrazr: Or is it a good starting point for my aproach | 22:09 |
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| madrazr | RaulT: what is your approach? | 22:10 |
| madrazr | what am I missing? | 22:10 |
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| madrazr | sorry too much traffic here | 22:10 |
| jasvir | madrazr: hello | 22:11 |
| madrazr | too many other things to do for full-time work :) | 22:11 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Study the designt of the database and provide a document containning the changes that have to be made in order to make the transition possible | 22:11 |
| madrazr | RaulT: would you mind repeating what your ideas was please? Or point me to the conversation in the logs. I tried to read through the backlogs, but couldn't find anything relevant | 22:11 |
| madrazr | RaulT: fair enough | 22:11 |
| madrazr | RaulT: that's a good starting point | 22:12 |
| RaulT | madrazr: What has to be deleted what has to be changed into what ,what can be kept and what must be added | 22:12 |
| madrazr | RaulT: yeah | 22:12 |
| RaulT | madrazr: And based on the results decide if the conversion is feasable | 22:12 |
| madrazr | RaulT: a good starting point would be to focus entirely on Profile model (the new NDB based profile model) | 22:12 |
| madrazr | RaulT: in app/melange/models/profile.py | 22:12 |
| madrazr | RaulT: conversion has to be made feasible somehow :) | 22:13 |
| madrazr | even if it is not | 22:13 |
| madrazr | right now :) | 22:13 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Yes but there are some other entities that depend exclusively on a student/mentor profile | 22:13 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Like proposal,comments | 22:13 |
| madrazr | RaulT: first thing I would get done is to upgrade from mentor to student | 22:14 |
| madrazr | it is not entirely clear to me why one would want to go the other way round though | 22:14 |
| madrazr | RaulT: may be there is a reason for it | 22:14 |
| madrazr | like for example someone registered as a student | 22:14 |
| madrazr | and did not get selected for GSoC | 22:14 |
| madrazr | and now want to mentor a project instead | 22:15 |
| madrazr | is a fair use case | 22:15 |
| madrazr | RaulT: so sure | 22:15 |
| madrazr | RaulT: what you propose is fair enough | 22:15 |
| RaulT | madrazr: Thank you. I will include that in my proposal | 22:15 |
| madrazr | RaulT: cool | 22:16 |
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| jasvir | madrazr: hello :) | 22:19 |
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| samgtr | i want to report an issue | 22:19 |
| madrazr | jasvir: Hi | 22:19 |
| samgtr | where can i do that? | 22:19 |
| madrazr | sorry about that | 22:19 |
| RaulT | samgtr: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/entry | 22:19 |
| tpb | Title: Sign in - Google Accounts (at code.google.com) | 22:19 |
| madrazr | samgtr: what is the issue? You can report it at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue | 22:19 |
| tpb | Title: Sign in - Google Accounts (at tinyurl.com) | 22:19 |
| samgtr | madrazr: oh it is a CSS issue on one of the org pages | 22:20 |
| jasvir | madrazr: I would like to ask that issues listed on ideas page for Mentor's flow are enough for proposal or I have to add something more? | 22:21 |
| madrazr | samgtr: please report | 22:22 |
| madrazr | jasvir: what is more important is to come with a coherent proposal for the issues listed | 22:23 |
| madrazr | jasvir: each issue tells only a part of the story | 22:23 |
| madrazr | jasvir: what is more important is to glue them together | 22:23 |
| madrazr | to make it a GSoC project | 22:23 |
| jasvir | madrazr: All issues together make a good GSoC project according to me. But I am little bit confused that is it enough? | 22:25 |
| samgtr | madrazr: reported the issue here at https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2122 | 22:25 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/BMoC> (at code.google.com) | 22:25 |
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| jasvir | madrazr: Ofcourse one will glue them together. If he/she going to solve them one by one, I considered them as sticked. What you think? | 22:26 |
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| jasvir | madrazr: ping ? | 22:32 |
| madrazr | jasvir: not enough to tackle one by one I think | 22:37 |
| madrazr | jasvir: you need a more coherent story | 22:37 |
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| madrazr | jasvir: you can't even summarize your project into oneline title if you want to fix them separately | 22:38 |
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| madrazr | jasvir: what will your project title be? | 22:38 |
| madrazr | jasvir: Fix all the mentor flow issues? | 22:38 |
| madrazr | that does not sound like a good idea | 22:38 |
| madrazr | samgtr: great! thanks! | 22:38 |
| jasvir | madrazr: Current title is "Improving Mentor flow". | 22:39 |
| madrazr | jasvir: sounds good | 22:39 |
| jasvir | madrazr: Ok. | 22:39 |
| jasvir | madrazr: What technical details I have to add? | 22:41 |
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| jasvir | madrazr: ping | 22:53 |
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| madrazr | jasvir: whatever details you think would make the proposal a one coherent project | 23:23 |
| madrazr | with timelines | 23:23 |
| madrazr | etc | 23:23 |
| madrazr | have you seen our proposal template yet? | 23:23 |
| madrazr | you should take a look | 23:23 |
| madrazr | that will give you some idea | 23:24 |
| jasvir | I have made full timeline. | 23:24 |
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| jasvir | madrazr: But there is different section 4.5 | 23:25 |
| jasvir | madrazr: " Include as much technical detail about your implementation as you can" | 23:25 |
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| jasvir | madrazr: I have made my proposal strictly according to tempalte given. | 23:26 |
| jasvir | template* | 23:27 |
| madrazr | jasvir: look around the templates you can find on the interenet | 23:31 |
| madrazr | *look around for the proposals you find on the internet | 23:32 |
| madrazr | jasvir: technical details section is important | 23:32 |
| jasvir | madrazr: I have added a startup like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7111181/ | 23:34 |
| tpb | Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com) | 23:34 |
| jasvir | madrazr: Is that the thing I have to add? | 23:35 |
| madrazr | jasvir: good start | 23:37 |
| madrazr | your paragraphs look rather disconnected though | 23:37 |
| madrazr | you say this Examples are given for both these modules and I am Implementing them. | 23:37 |
| madrazr | and then As we know median is just middle number of a list, | 23:38 |
| madrazr | I have no clue where median came from suddenly | 23:38 |
| jasvir | madrazr: Yeah. | 23:38 |
| jasvir | madrazr: Ok. I'll improve it. | 23:38 |
| jasvir | madrazr: Forget second paragraph. First is relevant? | 23:39 |
| madrazr | jasvir: sounds good yeah | 23:39 |
| jasvir | madrazr: First paragraph is about Implementing git diff like feature so that mentors can see what changes have been made into proposal. | 23:40 |
| jasvir | madrazr: So I found these libraries and specified them. | 23:41 |
| jasvir | madrazr: What about creating sub-organisation under main organisation? I think this include amendments in coding only. Like adding a function "sub-org". So what I have to specify there? Code example? If that is the case, than what'll left for coding period? I mean If I knew total logic behind this, I can solve it right now. I am not aware of full logic that's why It is still an idea. | 23:45 |
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