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| orcuna | SRabbelier: will my patch go to byte heaven, doc? :) | 00:35 |
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| LetterRip1 | you guys i'm sure are aware but just in case, the site is giving a server error right now | 00:58 |
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| dberkholz | app engine seems busted, anything anyone here can do about that? | 01:15 |
| dberkholz | tons of 500 errors | 01:16 |
| dberkholz | oh, maybe this is why: http://code.google.com/status/appengine/ | 01:22 |
| tpb | Title: Google App Engine System Status (at code.google.com) | 01:22 |
| orcuna | dberkholz: i don't think anyone here can do anything | 01:26 |
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| dberkholz | yeah, i discovered that status page after bringing the problem up here | 01:28 |
| orcuna | dberkholz: it must be like other google services: "our engineers will work at *:* for maintance" :) | 01:28 |
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| Nightrose | thanks to whoever added the last modified column! | 09:14 |
| Nightrose | comment of one of my mentors: ponies!!! | 09:14 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 09:14 |
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| |Kev| | Nightrose: Yes, that's very useful. Notifications are also wonderful. Thanks Melange peeps. | 10:33 |
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| madrazr | who is the ghost here? SRabbelier or SRabbelier|Lappy? :P | 12:01 |
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| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: one is me at home, the otherone is me at uni | 12:08 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: heh, so you have cloned yourself? :) | 12:09 |
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| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: of sorts | 12:14 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: ha ha | 12:14 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: http://www.google-melange.com/_ah/stats/details?time=1302090360867 | 12:15 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: notice the large amount of RPCs to check if dwr are enabled? ;) | 12:15 |
| tpb | Title: Google Accounts (at www.google-melange.com) | 12:15 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: when I visit that URL I get an appengine page saying "Invalid or stale record key!" | 12:16 |
| madrazr | you have disabled access to that page for me? :P | 12:16 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: ah, it expired then | 12:17 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: Oh Ok | 12:17 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: http://www.google-melange.com/_ah/stats/details?time=1302092243293 | 12:17 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: try that one | 12:17 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: but I think I get your point. We had very very low RPC calls during Appengine maintenance? :P | 12:17 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: I've already fixed it of course :) | 12:18 |
| tpb | Title: Google Accounts (at www.google-melange.com) | 12:18 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: seeing ... | 12:18 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: 17 RPCs for home page? | 12:20 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: notice in particular the 8 calls to capability_service.IsEnabled | 12:20 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: yeah just noticed that | 12:20 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: (I've fixed it in http://code.google.com/p/soc/source/detail?r=46fb659745d6edbbd01aa79dbc32f39338bdeba0 ) | 12:20 |
| tpb | Title: 46fb659745d6 - soc - SoC (Spice of Creation) - Google Project Hosting (at code.google.com) | 12:20 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: how did you fix it? | 12:20 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: it was retrieved once every Template :P | 12:20 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: Oh! | 12:20 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: Nice! | 12:22 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: and +1 for memoizing! | 12:23 |
| madrazr | that is an awesome thing :) | 12:24 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: yeah, didn't want to retrieve them for urls where we don't use them | 12:24 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: Oh Ok | 12:25 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: e.g. www.google-melange.com/ doesn't need either | 12:25 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: because it is a redirect? | 12:25 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: right | 12:27 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: Ok. Thats cool! | 12:27 |
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| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: http://www.google-melange.com/_ah/stats/details?time=1302096097921 | 13:22 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | look at that | 13:22 |
| tpb | Title: Google Accounts (at www.google-melange.com) | 13:22 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | only 12 RPCs left | 13:22 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: awesomeness! 8 -> 2 | 13:24 |
| madrazr | ! | 13:24 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | madrazr: 8? | 13:43 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier|Lappy: 8 calls to capability_service.IsEnabled to 2 calls now | 13:44 |
| madrazr | brb | 13:47 |
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| orcuna | SRabbelier|Lappy: hey, have you checked my patch yet? | 13:58 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | orcuna: have you seen a reply? | 14:00 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | orcuna: in other words, no :( | 14:01 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier|Lappy: yes, sorry. i'm little excited about that | 14:01 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | orcuna: can you resend and inline the patch? | 14:03 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | orcuna: I'd like to comment on it, but can't this way :P | 14:03 |
| orcuna | SRA | 14:04 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier|Lappy: sure, will do it | 14:04 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | orcuna: tnx :) | 14:04 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier|Lappy: it's little long (12 kb), i thought it would make visual pollution | 14:05 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | orcuna: split it out into two patches :) | 14:09 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | !fix | 14:09 |
| socinfo | SRabbelier|Lappy: "fix" is Send me an email from the account you are registered with on the site, with your link_id, and your desired status change. My email is my nick at gmail. | 14:09 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | ignore that :) | 14:09 |
| Nightrose | SRabbelier|Lappy: in an email for a mentor request was this link: http://gsoc/request/google/gsoc2011/6513201 | 14:10 |
| Nightrose | which obviously didn't resolve :) | 14:10 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: hm, how recent was that? | 14:10 |
| Nightrose | just now | 14:10 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | checking | 14:10 |
| Nightrose | 8 mins ago | 14:10 |
| Nightrose | ok | 14:10 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier|Lappy: ops, i've had already submited | 14:11 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | orcuna: np | 14:11 |
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| SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: found the bug | 14:28 |
| Nightrose | yay :) | 14:28 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: deploying | 14:35 |
| Nightrose | thanks :) | 14:35 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | Nightrose: thanks for reporting ^^ | 14:36 |
| Nightrose | sure | 14:37 |
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| MatthewWilkes | afternoon all | 15:02 |
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| SRabbelier|Lappy | MatthewWilkes: hello there | 15:06 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier|Lappy: thank you very much :) RequestData() can be None as you said. So i don't need to convert view into RequestHandler, do i? | 15:20 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier|Lappy: by the way, who is Lennard on IRC? | 15:20 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | orcuna: correct | 15:26 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | orcuna: Lennie I think, but he's not online usually | 15:27 |
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| armaan | hello | 15:47 |
| armaan | i need help. | 15:47 |
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| SRabbelier|Lappy | armaan: don't ask to ask, just ask | 15:49 |
| armaan | i want to develop a platform to bridge the gap between theoretical and practical approach prevailing in the indian education system and i need a mentoring organiasation, to mentor my idea. | 15:50 |
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| SRabbelier|Lappy | armaan: you're not even almost in the right channel | 15:53 |
| armaan | idea is to create a community of all those people who wish to expertise | 15:53 |
| armaan | in scientific knowledge and its practical implementations,who have | 15:53 |
| armaan | burning desire for utilising thier talents in innovation and development. | 15:53 |
| armaan | Its a model to be innovative,to think out of box. a community operating on web. | 15:53 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | armaan: Perhaps ask an umbrella org | 15:54 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | armaan: but I doubt anyone is interested in something like that | 15:54 |
| armaan | hmmm :( | 15:54 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | armaan: you could try to find a professor in your university and apply at OSPO | 15:54 |
| armaan | wot an idea sir ji :) | 15:55 |
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| armaan | whats ospo irc channel ? | 15:59 |
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| MatthewWilkes | You know what I hate? | 16:07 |
| MatthewWilkes | Fixing a bug in app engine. | 16:07 |
| MatthewWilkes | TWICE. | 16:07 |
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| SRabbelier|Lappy | MatthewWilkes: agreed | 16:13 |
| SRabbelier|Lappy | MatthewWilkes: what'd you fix? (talk to SRabbelier, I'm turning off my laptop) | 16:13 |
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| MatthewWilkes | https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=778 | 16:16 |
| tpb | Title: Issue 778 - googleappengine - MacLauncher on 10.5.5 + 1.1.5 can't import standard python libraries - Google App Engine - Google Project Hosting (at code.google.com) | 16:16 |
| MatthewWilkes | Which has an incorrect title/description | 16:16 |
| MatthewWilkes | it's actually fixing the import shit so it works on non-standard python install paths | 16:16 |
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| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: I mean, seriously, why can't they put a BIT of work into the dev appserver | 16:31 |
| MatthewWilkes | If they had one python coder of any skill working on it full time it would be so much better | 16:31 |
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| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: hmmhm, would be nice if they fixed packaging too ;) | 17:08 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: The dev server packaging? Yes | 17:09 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: right | 17:09 |
| MatthewWilkes | It's written by somebody who has no clue how Python is used | 17:09 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: that way we'd not have to include it in our tree | 17:09 |
| MatthewWilkes | someone self taught who's never been in an open source community | 17:09 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: very likely | 17:10 |
| SRabbelier | !fix | 17:10 |
| socinfo | SRabbelier: "fix" is Send me an email from the account you are registered with on the site, with your link_id, and your desired status change. My email is my nick at gmail. | 17:11 |
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| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: so why'd you have to fix it twice? | 17:15 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: didn't Guido apply it? | 17:16 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: He did, but it's been broken since | 17:18 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: 'doh | 17:19 |
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| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Why is student/mentor global, not per programme anyway? | 17:40 |
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| robertwb | I've got a question about re-using old linkids. | 17:48 |
| MatthewWilkes | How do I build [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/Users/matthewwilkes/work/melange/app/soc/content/0-8-20101206/css/v2/gsoc/menu.css' ? | 17:51 |
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| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: it's not, it is per program | 17:55 |
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| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: run bin/paver build | 17:56 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: That crashes for me | 17:58 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: pastebin? | 17:58 |
| MatthewWilkes | http://pastie.org/1764348 | 17:58 |
| tpb | Title: #1764348 - Pastie (at pastie.org) | 17:58 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: You don't need to tell me, I was already getting it | 17:59 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: can you try removing buildout's crap and running bootstrap again? | 17:59 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: I can try, but this was a fresh checkout from an hour or two ago | 18:00 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: nvm then | 18:00 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: can reproduce locally | 18:01 |
| MatthewWilkes | Sorry, giving you more work :S | 18:01 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: 't was an easy fix :) | 18:02 |
| MatthewWilkes | You know, I'm convinced the dev sdk is intentionally shit | 18:03 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I'm not convinced | 18:03 |
| MatthewWilkes | how do they intend to get people to use it like this? | 18:03 |
| * MatthewWilkes grumbles | 18:04 | |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: committing | 18:04 |
| MatthewWilkes | If I had to do anything at google it would be fix that | 18:04 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: like dev_appserver.py | 18:04 |
| MatthewWilkes | I don't like it, no | 18:05 |
| MatthewWilkes | ;) | 18:05 |
| MatthewWilkes | But yeah | 18:05 |
| MatthewWilkes | gut the thing and do it right | 18:05 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: it working now? | 18:06 |
| MatthewWilkes | pylint is very upset with you guys, but yeah | 18:07 |
| MatthewWilkes | thanks | 18:07 |
| MatthewWilkes | oh, wait | 18:08 |
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| MatthewWilkes | no | 18:08 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: It completed but didn't build the files | 18:08 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: cos pylint is angry | 18:08 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: run it with -s | 18:08 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: also, try -q | 18:09 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: still no: http://pastie.org/1764394 | 18:11 |
| tpb | Title: #1764394 - Pastie (at pastie.org) | 18:11 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: looks like that did what it should, yeah? | 18:11 |
| MatthewWilkes | maybe it did, but there's no version tag there, like the app looks for | 18:12 |
| MatthewWilkes | [19:51:51] <MatthewWilkes> How do I build [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/Users/matthewwilkes/work/melange/app/soc/content/0-8-20101206/css/v2/gsoc/menu.css' ? | 18:12 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: it's not supposed to be there :) | 18:15 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: see app.yaml | 18:15 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: we just ignore the version tag | 18:15 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: (it's only use is to make browser caching DTRT) | 18:16 |
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| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: Dammit, I used my old app.yaml | 18:17 |
| MatthewWilkes | thanks | 18:17 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I didn't suggest running gen-app-yaml because you said you'd done a clean clone :P | 18:17 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: what are you cloning for anyway? :) | 18:18 |
| MatthewWilkes | SRabbelier: I cloned to wash away the old changes from last time | 18:18 |
| MatthewWilkes | didn't think app.yaml mattered | 18:18 |
| MatthewWilkes | doh | 18:18 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: it doesn't usually | 18:18 |
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| MatthewWilkes | I think i will have some tea | 18:20 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: excellent | 18:22 |
| MatthewWilkes | Fried bacon, fried sausage, fried bread | 18:24 |
| MatthewWilkes | should do | 18:24 |
| SRabbelier | lots of frying going on there | 18:24 |
| MatthewWilkes | beans would be good too | 18:24 |
| MatthewWilkes | It's a fryup! | 18:24 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: I suppose my question should be, why are you getting your Melange clone cleaned up? | 18:24 |
| MatthewWilkes | Well, I was bored a couple of hours ago so thought I'd do some melange hacking | 18:25 |
| MatthewWilkes | To be honest, the drive is waning after having to fight with the shitty google code before I got to the nice melange stuff ;) | 18:25 |
| SRabbelier | :( | 18:27 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: and we made our new code all nice and comfy for you | 18:28 |
| MatthewWilkes | :0 | 18:29 |
| MatthewWilkes | :)* | 18:29 |
| MatthewWilkes | I have a low tolerance for bad code | 18:29 |
| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: don't we all | 18:30 |
| gevaerts | How do you feel about excellent implementations of horrid designs? | 18:30 |
| MatthewWilkes | Conflicted | 18:30 |
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| SRabbelier | MatthewWilkes: did you manage to get Melange running? :) | 18:57 |
| gevaerts | Or did you get mixed results? | 18:57 |
| MatthewWilkes | I got it running | 18:57 |
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| SRabbelier | gevaerts: +1 | 18:59 |
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| ahel | hi | 20:19 |
| MatthewWilkes | hi ahel | 20:20 |
| ahel | i've a problem with ordered list | 20:20 |
| ahel | hi again mate! | 20:20 |
| * MatthewWilkes is everywhere | 20:21 | |
| MatthewWilkes | and by everywhere, I mean in 2 channels | 20:21 |
| ahel | lol when i indent a line, i update and it's always in the same situation! | 20:22 |
| ahel | it is very frustrating... | 20:23 |
| MatthewWilkes | it's probably using some css that's being filtered out later | 20:24 |
| ahel | ...uhmm.. sounds a bit weird. any idea? | 20:27 |
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| harlan_ | I want to invite some mentors and a backup org admin. Should I just prowl the FAQ for the link to do this? | 20:49 |
| harlan_ | I'm not seeing anything obvious on my dashboard. | 20:49 |
| SRabbelier | harlan_: it's on your org homepage | 20:50 |
| harlan_ | thanks - I;ll look there now :) | 20:50 |
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| j-b | Hello, this is just a small thank you for the last update, that helped a lot. | 20:58 |
| SRabbelier | j-b: yw :) | 20:58 |
| j-b | SRabbelier: I don't know who exactly to thank though :D | 20:59 |
| j-b | C U | 20:59 |
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| waldi | hi. is there a way to remove mentors? | 21:53 |
| SRabbelier | waldi: not atm | 21:55 |
| SRabbelier | waldi: I can do so manually though | 21:55 |
| waldi | okay | 21:56 |
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| orcuna | Hi, args = ['--exclude=functional' ,'--exclude=^views$', '--exclude=^tasks$'] | 22:02 |
| orcuna | what does that mean? | 22:02 |
| orcuna | are some tests ignored really? | 22:02 |
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| SRabbelier | orcuna: it means we don't run the function, view, or tasks tests | 22:02 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: they're for old views | 22:02 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: that are no longer used | 22:02 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: they'll be deleted eventually | 22:03 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: but are there atm for reference | 22:03 |
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| orcuna | SRabbelier: which tests are in use right now? | 22:06 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: are all new tests in tests/new_views ? | 22:06 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: yes to the latter | 22:07 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: and all tests that run when you do bin/run-tests are in use | 22:07 |
| SRabbelier | orcuna: although _I_ don't personally run the non-new_views ones | 22:07 |
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| iandees | it looks like you guys recently removed the "organization" column from the "Proposals Submitted to my Orgs" table | 22:08 |
| orcuna | SRabbelier: yes, does "Testing, Code Guru, Code Quality Assurance" contain writing these new tests? | 22:08 |
| SRabbelier | iandees: see email to the mentor list | 22:08 |
| iandees | any way to get that back so I don't need to guess which org has proposals? | 22:09 |
| SRabbelier | iandees: yes | 22:09 |
| iandees | SRabbelier: k, thanks. Sorry, I've been skimming those a lot due to high volume :) | 22:09 |
| SRabbelier | iandees: read the [Announce] ones | 22:09 |
| iandees | very nice, thanks. I was even poking at those buttons earlier today -- should have noticed. | 22:10 |
| iandees | it even remembers my settings :) | 22:10 |
| SRabbelier | iandees: isn't it great? thank Mario | 22:12 |
| iandees | thanks mario :) | 22:13 |
| * iandees heads home from work. | 22:14 | |
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| SRabbelier | gevaerts: yes, they can | 22:48 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: you can go to your org homepage | 22:48 |
| SRabbelier | harlan: and click 'invite a mentor', but it'll only work if he already created a profile for this year, which I assume he hasn't | 22:48 |
| gevaerts | harlan: I'd re-evaluate things next Friday then | 22:48 |
| harlan | he hasn't... | 22:49 |
| ahel | hi, how can i add an image on my proposal? with some html tag or something like that? thank you! | 22:49 |
| harlan | I sent him the URL in case he can do that. | 22:49 |
| harlan | I found the email address he used to sign up before. | 22:49 |
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| LetterRip | Hi SRabbelier might be a good idea to not do self notifications that you left a comment | 23:05 |
| LetterRip | etc | 23:05 |
| LetterRip | at least not for the defaults | 23:05 |
| SRabbelier | LetterRip: yeah | 23:06 |
| SRabbelier | LetterRip: issue for it? | 23:06 |
| SRabbelier | plx | 23:06 |
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| LetterRip | ok | 23:12 |
| LetterRip | could you put a link to the tracker in the topic :) | 23:12 |
| LetterRip | SRabbelier, ^ | 23:13 |
| SRabbelier | !bug | 23:13 |
| LetterRip | !bug | 23:13 |
| LetterRip | heh | 23:13 |
| SRabbelier | !learn bug as file melange feature requests & bugs at http://tinyurl.com/new-issue | 23:13 |
| socinfo | SRabbelier: The operation succeeded. | 23:13 |
| tpb | Title: Google Project Hosting (at tinyurl.com) | 23:13 |
| SRabbelier | LetterRip: there you go | 23:13 |
| SRabbelier | LetterRip: I'd rather not | 23:14 |
| LetterRip | ty | 23:14 |
| LetterRip | ij | 23:14 |
| LetterRip | ok | 23:14 |
| SRabbelier | LetterRip: I've successfully added a gmail filter for these | 23:14 |
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| sdumitriu | Melange seems to discard some student applications, is this a known bug? | 23:19 |
| LetterRip | SRabbelier, cool | 23:19 |
| sdumitriu | I received a mail notification for this proposal: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2011/tadas_subonis/1001 | 23:19 |
| LetterRip | sdumitriu, yikes! | 23:19 |
| sdumitriu | But it doesn't appear in the list of proposals | 23:19 |
| SRabbelier | sdumitriu: student probably withdrew it | 23:20 |
| sdumitriu | (I'm an org admin, btw) | 23:20 |
| sdumitriu | No he didn't | 23:20 |
| sdumitriu | At least not willingly | 23:20 |
| Triskelios | oh, are we supposed to receive mail notifications now? I'm not... | 23:20 |
| sdumitriu | Triskelios: Just started today | 23:20 |
| Triskelios | ah, thanks | 23:21 |
| SRabbelier | Triskelios: yes you are | 23:21 |
| SRabbelier | sdumitriu: did you change the status dropdown to "All"? | 23:21 |
| sdumitriu | SRabbelier: Wasn't there, added the column, and indeed it appears as withdrawn | 23:22 |
| sdumitriu | Thanks | 23:22 |
| sdumitriu | I'll go check with the student | 23:22 |
| SRabbelier | sdumitriu: okay :) | 23:22 |
| Triskelios | SRabbelier: you're right, actually, totally forgot about the update messages from this morning | 23:23 |
| SRabbelier | cool | 23:23 |
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| LetterRip | man this year is going to be some tough choices... | 23:56 |
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