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| dreimark | our value is 0 now. if i edit all tasks. what do i have to fill in there. is it just the time in hours? | 00:01 |
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| dreimark | SRabbelier: ^ | 00:01 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: the time is stored internally as just the hours | 00:01 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: but the form shows it as hours%24 | 00:02 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: since the days are shown as hours/24 | 00:02 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: there's no need to change them atm | 00:02 |
| dreimark | but 0 is not accepted | 00:02 |
| dreimark | how can i say exactly 5 days ? | 00:03 |
| dreimark | SRabbelier: ^ | 00:06 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: where, in bulk import, or in the view? | 00:07 |
| dreimark | in the view | 00:07 |
| dreimark | e.g. http://melange-demo.appspot.com/gci/task/edit/melange/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037536128 | 00:07 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+ld> (at melange-demo.appspot.com) | 00:07 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: why do you need to enter it there, it already says 5 days? | 00:08 |
| dreimark | if you select "Publish the task" it cries | 00:08 |
| dreimark | SRabbelier: ^ | 00:09 |
| dreimark | only if i add something valid there i can publish it | 00:09 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: right, so I said, either enter 4 days, 24 hours, or 5 days and 1 hour until we fix it | 00:10 |
| dreimark | a ok, now i understand | 00:10 |
| dreimark | ThomasWaldmann: i add that 1 into that field | 00:11 |
| dreimark | ThomasWaldmann: done | 00:22 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: ping | 00:25 |
| dreimark | SRabbelier: pong | 00:27 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: deployed 0-8-20101121-p3 | 00:27 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: can you see if you can bulk-publish now? | 00:27 |
| dreimark | i can only test on demo - there is still p2 | 00:28 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: oh, deployign there | 00:28 |
| dreimark | thomas can on melange, and there i have entered 48 times the 1 | 00:29 |
| SRabbelier | ouch | 00:29 |
| dreimark | i was asking and did not understood that want to fix it immeaditly | 00:29 |
| dreimark | +you | 00:29 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: argh, damned AppEngine is giving me trouble deploying | 00:33 |
| dreimark | if it is on melange working, then ThomasWaldmann can publish our tasks, i have to get some sleep soon. i can test it in some hours. | 00:34 |
| dreimark | gn | 00:35 |
| * ThomasWaldmann published | 00:39 | |
| SRabbelier | ThomasWaldmann: using bulk? | 00:40 |
| dreimark | :) | 00:40 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: I published it to melange-demo too | 00:40 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: as Release 0-8-20101121 | 00:40 |
| ThomasWaldmann | yes | 00:41 |
| SRabbelier | ThomasWaldmann: great | 00:41 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: I also removed the 0 hour restriction | 00:41 |
| dreimark | SRabbelier: on demo bulk approve did not work | 00:43 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: wait, are you an org admin on demo? | 00:43 |
| dreimark | yes | 00:44 |
| dreimark | anyway have get some sleep, we can look on that later. | 00:46 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: weird, glad it's working on socghop at least | 00:49 |
| * SRabbelier is off to bed as well | 00:49 | |
| dreimark | how much are online? | 08:14 |
| dreimark | ls -rtl | 10:35 |
| dreimark | arg | 10:35 |
| dreimark | SRabbelier: how it going on | 10:35 |
| dreimark | +is | 10:35 |
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| mohamed | hi | 12:16 |
| SRabbelier | mohamed: hello | 12:17 |
| mohamed | there is a problem in the site am i right? | 12:17 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark: not so good | 12:17 |
| SRabbelier | mohamed: Quite so | 12:17 |
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| mohamed | ok i hope it will be fixed very soon | 12:17 |
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| mohamed | who is here is from google company? | 12:18 |
| SRabbelier | mohamed: me, of sorts | 12:18 |
| JaneWells | SRabbelier: I replied to your response on the list (thanks). The formula for the # of hours is throwing me a bit. What is meant to go in the # of days, # of hours fields? | 12:18 |
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| aviraldg | Hi. | 12:19 |
| aviraldg | Has Google Code-in started (officially) yet? | 12:19 |
| m4k3r | Hey guys, are there some news about when -aproximately- google-melange will be up? | 12:20 |
| JaneWells | aviraldg: yes, but melange is having some issues. please be patient | 12:20 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: yes it has, but we're down and out for the moment | 12:20 |
| SRabbelier | m4k3r: I'm looking into it right now, hopefully within the hour | 12:20 |
| m4k3r | \o/ | 12:20 |
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| SRabbelier | JaneWells: Internally we store it as just hours | 12:20 |
| m4k3r | Thanks. | 12:20 |
| aviraldg | ty | 12:20 |
| JaneWells | aviraldg: at wordpress, we are talking with potential students in our irc channel for anyone who wants to get started on a task. if you know what project you want to work with, you might try contacting them directly in the meantime | 12:20 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: but we display it to you as hours and days (e.g., days = internal_hours/24, hours = internal_hours%24) | 12:21 |
| aviraldg | moinmoin | 12:21 |
| SRabbelier | dreimark and ThomasWaldmann both are part of moinmoin | 12:22 |
| m4k3r | aviraldg: I'm on #moinmoin-dev. Currently both Thomas and out mentor are away, but you can just join and wait. | 12:22 |
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| m4k3r | *our | 12:22 |
| JaneWells | SRabbelier: so we should enter the longest amount of time it should take in hours? | 12:22 |
| JaneWells | but in days increments unless there are half days etc | 12:22 |
| aviraldg | @m4k3r okay | 12:22 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: yeah, the idea is this makes it easier for you guys to enter large timespans | 12:22 |
| m4k3r | aviraldg: ops, sry #moin-dev | 12:23 |
| JaneWells | SRabbelier: the road to hell.... ;) | 12:23 |
| JaneWells | thanks | 12:23 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: heh | 12:23 |
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| JaneWells | SRabbelier: out of curiosity, how does the melange ui get determined? do you guys have ux/ui people or is dev-decided? | 12:29 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: the latter, but we've hired EchoDitto to redesign our UI, next GSoC we'll have a properly designed UI :) | 12:29 |
| JaneWells | ah ok, was just about to volunteer since wordpress 3.1 is almost out the door | 12:29 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: we can definitely use help in implementing whatever ED designs though | 12:30 |
| JaneWells | i'm not a coder, i just design the wordpress ui :) | 12:30 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: they'll be providing us with HTML and CSS, and that needs to be converted to Django/python/appengine | 12:30 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: aaah :) | 12:30 |
| JaneWells | do they do many applications? i thought they were more of branding/marketing | 12:31 |
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| AureiAnimus | hello? | 12:32 |
| SRabbelier | AureiAnimus: hi | 12:33 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: I'm not sure, I got a similar impression, but they're doing a great job so far | 12:33 |
| JaneWells | cool | 12:33 |
| AureiAnimus | Any predictions on when the maintenance is over? | 12:34 |
| JaneWells | AureiAnimus: give it an hour | 12:35 |
| AureiAnimus | Okay, thanks :) | 12:36 |
| mohamed | ok i hope it will be fixed very soon | 12:36 |
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| Moult | memory issues? | 12:44 |
| SRabbelier | Moult: yup, problem identified, am working on a fix | 12:44 |
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| _kiko | can't access the melange right now.. | 12:52 |
| SRabbelier | _kiko: correct, am working on a fix | 12:54 |
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| * espes is curious as to what constitutes "Memory errors" | 13:01 | |
| Moult | he forgot to do something :) | 13:01 |
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| SRabbelier | espes: eh, we're fetching the same object 150 times | 13:05 |
| SRabbelier | espes: and that object contains a database pointer to each task that points at it | 13:05 |
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| _kiko | SRabbelier: thanks :) nice to hear that. | 13:08 |
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| utku | Do any of you know when will the tasks be available? or how long will it take to solve the problem? | 13:16 |
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| jacktheripper | utku: the problem was identified and there's a fix in progress. It shouldn't take long. | 13:27 |
| jacktheripper | utku: time varies according to problem. Check the organisations. Some problems take as long as 3 weeks. | 13:27 |
| m4k3r | utku quitted 10 minutes ago. | 13:28 |
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| _kiko | i think tomorrow we will have a lot of request when the gci starts | 13:29 |
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| jacktheripper | woops | 13:30 |
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| siva | how much time would it take ? | 13:34 |
| JayDez | and now he's back jacktheripper | 13:34 |
| m4k3r | lol. | 13:34 |
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| _kiko | siva: do you mean the gci tasks? | 13:35 |
| jacktheripper | haha | 13:35 |
| siva | ya | 13:35 |
| SRabbelier | I'm testing a fix atm | 13:35 |
| SRabbelier | Seems to be working | 13:35 |
| _kiko | siva: depends on the organization or the project | 13:35 |
| siva | ok thanks | 13:36 |
| _kiko | siva: but i saw some tasks that already included that time | 13:37 |
| _kiko | siva: what project do you want to join? | 13:37 |
| siva | maybe videolan | 13:38 |
| siva | qand you | 13:38 |
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| siva | _kiko: and you | 13:40 |
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| _kiko | siva: im not qualified, im already an oldie guy, im checking the status of the contest :) | 13:40 |
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| _kiko | siva: vlc, that's very nice | 13:41 |
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| t0ks | hello there! anyone that managed to claim a task for google code-in? | 13:42 |
| JaneWells | t0ks: the site is down right now, will be back up soon | 13:43 |
| snizzo | t0ks: is currently down | 13:43 |
| _kiko | t0ks: tomorrow :) | 13:43 |
| siva | _kiko: i even liked the sahana | 13:43 |
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| t0ks | tomorrow? do we know time? | 13:44 |
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| t0ks | cause i am trying from 8 utc | 13:44 |
| SRabbelier | t0ks: site will be back up soon | 13:44 |
| SRabbelier | within 15, probably sooner | 13:45 |
| JaneWells | t0ks: some projects are verbally letting students start on tasks by communicating directly in their irc channels. which project(s) do you want to work for | 13:45 |
| t0ks | a vlc project | 13:45 |
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| snizzo | SRabbelier: 15:00 which gmt? | 13:46 |
| utku | is it possible to participate in multiple projects? | 13:46 |
| SRabbelier | snizzo: within 15minutes | 13:47 |
| snizzo | oh ok! thanks! | 13:47 |
| utku | or should i read the manual? :) | 13:47 |
| jacktheripper | utku: only one task at a time. | 13:47 |
| jacktheripper | utku, and yeah RTFM :p | 13:47 |
| siva | jacktheripper: thanks | 13:48 |
| _kiko | 5hrs have passed | 13:48 |
| * SRabbelier deploying new release | 13:49 | |
| jacktheripper | great | 13:49 |
| m4k3r | Ok, from now, let's tell the others the server will be up tomorrow, to be sure we don't overload google-melange | 13:49 |
| SRabbelier | m4k3r: no need for that | 13:49 |
| m4k3r | SRabbelier: just jocking. | 13:49 |
| utku | m4k3r: good idea :P | 13:49 |
| m4k3r | \o/ | 13:50 |
| snizzo | we love you :) | 13:51 |
| m4k3r | Hey! | 13:51 |
| m4k3r | Thanks! | 13:51 |
| SRabbelier | Site's back online | 13:51 |
| JayDez | yay. :) | 13:51 |
| jacktheripper | finalleh | 13:51 |
| jacktheripper | thanks a bunch | 13:52 |
| _kiko | hi, ok i can access the melange right now | 13:53 |
| SRabbelier | _kiko: excellent | 13:53 |
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| nolze | great | 13:53 |
| _kiko | how to claim the task, i dont see any claim link | 13:53 |
| SRabbelier | _kiko: Pick a task from http://www.google-melange.com/gci/program/list_tasks/google/gci2010 | 13:54 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+sr> (at www.google-melange.com) | 13:54 |
| utku | finally! :) | 13:54 |
| _kiko | its kinda slow right now.. | 13:54 |
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| jbills | What is wrong with melange and when will it be up? | 13:55 |
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| JayDez | _kiko: would agree with the slowness.. | 13:56 |
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| SRabbelier | jbills: it's already back up | 13:57 |
| SRabbelier | _kiko: slow how? | 13:57 |
| t0ks | everything is ok, thanks | 13:58 |
| _kiko | the loading.. prompt has a very long delay and the unresponsive script always appear | 13:58 |
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| SRabbelier | _kiko: there's a lot of tasks to be loaded | 13:58 |
| _kiko | SRabbelier: i see, yeah it contains very long list of the task | 13:59 |
| SRabbelier | _kiko: but, yeah, the script unresponsive is a thing we need to fix | 13:59 |
| oxan | well, it works fine with chrome/chromium, but yeah, in firefox it's bad | 14:00 |
| * SRabbelier nods | 14:00 | |
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| SRabbelier | We should use webworkers or such | 14:00 |
| aviraldg | how do you claim a task? | 14:02 |
| _kiko | i have to install the chrome :( | 14:02 |
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| SRabbelier | aviraldg: the dropdown above the comment box | 14:02 |
| * SRabbelier will brb | 14:02 | |
| SRabbelier | ask questions in #gsoc | 14:02 |
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| aviraldg | the complete task list absolutely *kills* firefox | 14:04 |
| aviraldg | is there any other way to access the tasks of a particular organization? | 14:05 |
| utku | aviraldg: I'm able to claim a task with Google Chrome. | 14:05 |
| m4k3r | SRabbelier: I have ploblems in listing my tasks. | 14:05 |
| Samoi_ | Yea, firefox really does not like the linq script | 14:05 |
| SRabbelier | m4k3r: deploying a fix for that | 14:05 |
| SRabbelier | m4k3r: please wait less than a minute | 14:06 |
| _kiko | there's no tux4kids projec tasks? | 14:06 |
| SRabbelier | m4k3r: can you try again now please? | 14:06 |
| m4k3r | SRabbelier: ok, but, I mean, tasks claimed are ok? | 14:06 |
| * m4k3r there's a new task! Melange beta-tester! | 14:06 | |
| SRabbelier | m4k3r: can you go to http://www.google-melange.com/gci/student/list_student_tasks/google/gci2010 ? | 14:06 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+t5> (at www.google-melange.com) | 14:06 |
| * SRabbelier laughs | 14:07 | |
| SRabbelier | yes | 14:07 |
| m4k3r | SRabbelier: ok! | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | m4k3r: does it work now? | 14:07 |
| m4k3r | Yep. | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | phew | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | m4k3r: thanks! | 14:07 |
| m4k3r | Thank you. | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | m4k3r: what's your link_id? | 14:07 |
| m4k3r | maker | 14:07 |
| SRabbelier | m4k3r: awesome, good luck with GCI then! | 14:08 |
| snizzo | gl hf :) | 14:09 |
| aviraldg | SRabbelier: would it be possible to reduce the default value for "tasks per page" to a more manageable value like 20? | 14:10 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: heh, at first it was set to show _all_ tasks | 14:11 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: why do you want less? | 14:11 |
| aviraldg | currently the only options are 100, 500, 1000 | 14:11 |
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| aviraldg | still very very slow | 14:11 |
| aviraldg | :D | 14:11 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: lowering that won't make it faster though | 14:12 |
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| aviraldg | you mean it loads *all* the tasks at once? | 14:12 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: yes | 14:14 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: well | 14:14 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: incrementally | 14:14 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: in batches of 100 | 14:14 |
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| _kiko | using google chrome works for me now :) | 14:16 |
| * SRabbelier chuckles | 14:16 | |
| SRabbelier | Chrome +1 | 14:16 |
| m4k3r | +1 | 14:16 |
| jacktheripper | -1 | 14:16 |
| _kiko | after claiming the task, when can my claimed task approve? | 14:16 |
| snizzo | when mentor sees i suppose | 14:17 |
| SRabbelier | _kiko: the mentor will get mailed and will decide to approve it | 14:17 |
| jacktheripper | SRabbelier, based on what ? | 14:17 |
| SRabbelier | jacktheripper: ? | 14:18 |
| SRabbelier | jacktheripper: oh, uhm, don't know really | 14:18 |
| SRabbelier | jacktheripper: I think it's mostly a formality | 14:18 |
| jacktheripper | what makes him decide to approve I mean | 14:18 |
| SRabbelier | jacktheripper: he might ask some questions | 14:18 |
| SRabbelier | jacktheripper: if the task is difficult or whatnot | 14:18 |
| jacktheripper | oh | 14:18 |
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| _kiko | SRabbelier: thanks | 14:19 |
| * SRabbelier will bll now | 14:19 | |
| anon_ | why are there so few projects available? | 14:19 |
| snizzo | maybe not all org have inserted all tasks | 14:19 |
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| snizzo | wait or ping mentors :P | 14:20 |
| siva | why is it automatically scrolling down | 14:21 |
| _kiko | snizzo: yeah, I noticed that too | 14:21 |
| _kiko | siva: its loading.. | 14:22 |
| snizzo | chrom* works with melange (with slowness but works :)) | 14:22 |
| jacktheripper | is Obey Arthur Liu around ? :D | 14:22 |
| siva | snizzo: is chrome really effective | 14:23 |
| madrazr | siva: what is automatically scrolling down? | 14:23 |
| siva | madrazr: the web page | 14:24 |
| madrazr | jacktheripper: btw to your question on what makes mentor to approve, this feature was requested to avoid spams | 14:24 |
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| madrazr | jacktheripper: we don't really doubt our students, we are just trying to make sure to allot the request only to "students" who request it | 14:24 |
| jacktheripper | madrazr, how would he know if I'm spamming ? | 14:24 |
| madrazr | jacktheripper: not to the spammers who claim the task and lock it down for other students | 14:24 |
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| madrazr | jacktheripper: as SRabbelier said, may be your mentor will ask a question or two? We have given that autonomy to mentors and mentoring organizations | 14:25 |
| _kiko | is it possible to add more task from the project organizer? | 14:25 |
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| madrazr | _kiko: can you please elaborate on your question? | 14:25 |
| jacktheripper | madrazr, ah okay, thanks. | 14:26 |
| madrazr | siva: which web page? There are several pages live now | 14:26 |
| _kiko | madrazr: i mean, because some of the task are not entered by the organizer, can we request to that organizer to add more task? | 14:26 |
| madrazr | _kiko: how do you know that the organizer has not entered some of the task? Is the list present somewhere else? | 14:27 |
| aviraldg | ... on the organizer's wiki/website | 14:28 |
| madrazr | _kiko: To be precise, the task doesn't exist for all purposes of the contest, unless they appear on www.google-melange.com | 14:28 |
| siva | the task's page | 14:28 |
| madrazr | aviraldg: same as above ^ | 14:28 |
| siva | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/program/list_tasks/google/gci2010 | 14:28 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+sr> (at www.google-melange.com) | 14:28 |
| siva | this one | 14:28 |
| madrazr | siva: thanks for the URL, I will take a look at it | 14:28 |
| siva | your welcome :) | 14:29 |
| _kiko | madrazr: yeah, there's a list of the task ideas. I just saw just 4 task entered. | 14:29 |
| madrazr | _kiko: Ok, then you were right earlier. You must ask your organization to enter those tasks | 14:29 |
| _kiko | madrazr: thanks a lot for the clarity. :) | 14:30 |
| madrazr | _kiko: also it is quite possible that they have entered those tasks into google-melange but have not made it public | 14:30 |
| madrazr | _kiko: even for that, you need to ask your Organization to make more tasks public | 14:30 |
| _kiko | madrazr: i see. i think ill ask them for clarification or a request. | 14:30 |
| mavu | My browser hangs while loading the page, and if i try to search for a particular organization. Is that happening to everyone or is it just me? | 14:31 |
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| madrazr | mavu: which browser? | 14:31 |
| c_schmitz | hi everyone | 14:31 |
| mavu | Firefox | 14:31 |
| madrazr | mavu: it works on Firefox and Chrome | 14:31 |
| snizzo | mavu: me, chromium is slow but works | 14:31 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: Hi | 14:31 |
| madrazr | All | 14:32 |
| madrazr | It is slow | 14:32 |
| c_schmitz | the task list is really slow, I wish there was a way to show fewer items than 100 | 14:32 |
| madrazr | because there are so many tasks | 14:32 |
| madrazr | so many kids, trying their hands at the contest | 14:32 |
| c_schmitz | it should default to 50 or something | 14:32 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: 100 was a good trade-off we could come up with, otherwise people would have complained about navigating a large number of pages | 14:32 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: we need to trade-off at some number you see, we chose 100 | 14:33 |
| _kiko | i guess, the best way is to catergorize the task by organization. | 14:33 |
| madrazr | _kiko: which is already there | 14:33 |
| m4k3r | Wy can't I claim more than one task? :( | 14:33 |
| c_schmitz | madrazr: I see | 14:33 |
| m4k3r | *Why | 14:33 |
| madrazr | m4k3r: thats the rule of the contest | 14:33 |
| _kiko | thanks, yeah i saw organization search box | 14:33 |
| madrazr | All: If you find that I don't answer your question, please feel free to ask again | 14:33 |
| madrazr | I am answering too many people, so it is easy to miss some | 14:34 |
| mavu | madrazr: but the search simply crashes the browser. | 14:34 |
| c_schmitz | madraz: I understand that by stil there should be an option in the dropdown to switch to fewer items | 14:34 |
| madrazr | mavu: searching for which field? | 14:34 |
| mavu | organization | 14:34 |
| madrazr | mavu: let me try once again | 14:34 |
| _kiko | mavu: try chrome | 14:35 |
| mavu | I am in India with net speeds fairly towards the upper end of the spectrum we can get here. This practically makes the site unusable for most of the kids here. | 14:35 |
| aviraldg | mavu: it's not about net speeds | 14:36 |
| madrazr | mavu: I come from India as well, I am sitting in Mumbai at the moment | 14:36 |
| _kiko | mavu: i have 128kbs here, chrome makes it fast :) | 14:36 |
| aviraldg | the script itself is processor intensive | 14:36 |
| mavu | ah :) ok | 14:36 |
| Moult | just throwing in the $0.02 that it works well on opera | 14:36 |
| madrazr | aviraldg: it is, lot of data to load | 14:36 |
| * aviraldg is from india to | 14:36 | |
| aviraldg | *too | 14:36 |
| mavu | awesome | 14:37 |
| _kiko | wow so many india dev here :) | 14:37 |
| siva | :) | 14:37 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: sorry for ignoring, there is an option to switch to 50 items on the list AFAIK | 14:38 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: just checking for you | 14:38 |
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| madrazr | c_schmitz: ouch I see, we will fix this soon | 14:40 |
| madrazr | I see there is only 100, 500 and 1000 | 14:40 |
| c_schmitz | yep :) | 14:40 |
| * mavu closed eclipse. Its much better now :) | 14:41 | |
| _kiko | :) eclipse | 14:42 |
| madrazr | mavu: it works well with Chrome | 14:42 |
| jacktheripper | are all tasks equal in reward ? | 14:42 |
| madrazr | little problems than on Firefox 3.x | 14:42 |
| jacktheripper | I read you get $100 for every 3 tasks | 14:42 |
| madrazr | jacktheripper: depends on the difficulty level | 14:42 |
| jacktheripper | difficulty doesn't count ? | 14:42 |
| jacktheripper | oh | 14:42 |
| jacktheripper | how ? | 14:42 |
| _kiko | wow | 14:42 |
| mavu | madrazr: sure :) i'll give it a try | 14:42 |
| madrazr | jacktheripper: difficulty level doesn't matter for 100$ | 14:42 |
| jacktheripper | ranking ? | 14:43 |
| madrazr | jacktheripper: but mind you, that is not your only goal | 14:43 |
| _kiko | i just want the shirt :) | 14:43 |
| madrazr | jacktheripper: yes, you must aim higher, to goto Mountain View :D | 14:43 |
| _kiko | the Grand Prize baby! | 14:43 |
| jacktheripper | woohoo! | 14:43 |
| madrazr | jacktheripper: trust me Googleplex at Mountain View is awesome! I was just there a month back. It is a dream to go there | 14:43 |
| madrazr | if that was not tempting enough ... | 14:43 |
| _kiko | madrazr: how did you went there? | 14:43 |
| madrazr | _kiko: Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit | 14:44 |
| _kiko | madrazr: wow. that's very of you :) | 14:44 |
| _kiko | *very cool of you. :) | 14:44 |
| madrazr | anyways not deviating the discussion here | 14:44 |
| madrazr | more questions people | 14:44 |
| madrazr | more? | 14:44 |
| madrazr | FLAMES? :P | 14:44 |
| snizzo | browser war! cmon! | 14:45 |
| snizzo | ;) | 14:45 |
| jacktheripper | opera ownz! | 14:45 |
| anon_ | question: after i apply for a task, how do i get confirmation? in mail? | 14:45 |
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| madrazr | btw some one complained about search by Organization, it works fine in Chrome | 14:46 |
| madrazr | a bit slow, not too slow though | 14:46 |
| siva | has the contest started | 14:46 |
| snizzo | siva: oh yeah | 14:46 |
| madrazr | if you know what organization you want to search for I suggest going to List participating Organization page | 14:46 |
| madrazr | and then navigate to that Organization's home page | 14:46 |
| madrazr | it must be much faster | 14:46 |
| madrazr | and you can see List of all tasks only for that organization | 14:47 |
| madrazr | siva: yes | 14:47 |
| madrazr | siva: I see people have started claiming requests | 14:47 |
| madrazr | anon_: if you are subscribed to the task you get a notification | 14:47 |
| madrazr | in the mail | 14:47 |
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| madrazr | anon_: telling some one changed the status of the task, "Like Approved your claim request" | 14:47 |
| madrazr | anon_: if you haven't subscribed to the task, please do so ASAP | 14:48 |
| snizzo | just curious... how to subscribe? | 14:48 |
| jacktheripper | subscribe ? | 14:49 |
| madrazr | snizzo: for each task, you must see a "cute little star" preceding the title of the task | 14:49 |
| madrazr | snizzo: you can click on it to subscribe | 14:49 |
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| snizzo | i've already claimed it | 14:49 |
| madrazr | jacktheripper: ^ | 14:49 |
| madrazr | snizzo: just let me know if you are subscribed then? | 14:50 |
| jacktheripper | yes, star's lit up already here | 14:50 |
| c_schmitz | does a mentor has to subscribe to his own task? | 14:50 |
| madrazr | snizzo: the star is shinning for you or it is dim? | 14:50 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: if the mentor has created the task, then no | 14:50 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: if additional mentors were added later, then yes, they must | 14:50 |
| snizzo | in List My Task i can't see the star | 14:50 |
| snizzo | oh I see xD sorry | 14:51 |
| snizzo | is so cute anyway :) | 14:51 |
| c_schmitz | madrazr: someone from our org created all tasks | 14:51 |
| anon_ | thanks | 14:52 |
| c_schmitz | so now I have to enter every task and subscribe even though I am assigned as mentor? | 14:52 |
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| c_schmitz | that is, eh, optimizable | 14:52 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: probably yes | 14:52 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: you are a mentor? | 14:52 |
| c_schmitz | sure | 14:52 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: if you think, we should do that, will you be so kind to create an issue for Melange about the same? We will consider it for GCI 2011 for sure | 14:53 |
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| madrazr | c_schmitz: you can submit the issue here: http://tinyurl.com/new-issue | 14:53 |
| tpb | Title: Google Project Hosting (at tinyurl.com) | 14:53 |
| c_schmitz | k | 14:54 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: I know it is counter productive to now go and subscribe to all the tasks, but we intentionally avoided this because, some people don't want us to spam their inboxes without their consent | 14:54 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: had to trade-off again | 14:54 |
| c_schmitz | being a mentor is unlikely 'without consent' ;) - a switch on the profile settings would resolve that | 14:55 |
| c_schmitz | but I will be happy to create an issue | 14:55 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: thank you so much. That is so kind of you | 14:56 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: just out of curiosity, which org? | 14:56 |
| c_schmitz | thanks for your help! | 14:56 |
| c_schmitz | limesurvey.org | 14:56 |
| c_schmitz | another question: Is there any way to see details on the claiming student? | 14:57 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: cool! | 14:57 |
| c_schmitz | All I can see right now is the username | 14:57 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: nope | 14:58 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: also another important thing to note is that, these students would not even be students on Melange datastore until they complete one task successfully | 14:58 |
| madrazr | c_schmitz: thats the contest rule | 14:58 |
| c_schmitz | k | 14:58 |
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| JaneWells | SRabbelier: this might already be on the radar, but i've been hitting a bug where when i try to invite someone as a mentor or admin i get a red error massage saying i can't add them (no reason given), but in the background, it does actually send the invite to the person i tried to invite. | 15:08 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: can you paste the exact message, and the url? | 15:08 |
| JaneWells | yeah, will do it when i see it again | 15:10 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: thanks | 15:10 |
| JaneWells | SRabbelier: actually, back button worked fine to get at it. :) | 15:11 |
| JaneWells | This user can not receive an invite to become a GCI Mentor. | 15:11 |
| JaneWells | Please make sure there is no outstanding invite or request and be sure that this user is not a GCI Mentor. | 15:11 |
| JaneWells | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/mentor/invite/google/gci2010/wordpress | 15:11 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+uL> (at www.google-melange.com) | 15:11 |
| JaneWells | have gotten it on everyone today | 15:11 |
| JaneWells | but they are all getting in okay | 15:11 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: probably because they were already invited | 15:12 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: see http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/list_requests/google/gci2010/wordpress | 15:12 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+uM> (at www.google-melange.com) | 15:12 |
| JaneWells | got the same error trying to make westi an admin | 15:12 |
| JaneWells | and trying to invite boone, who had not been invited | 15:12 |
| JaneWells | i did check the invite list | 15:12 |
| JaneWells | not abig deal since they are getting the emails, just wanted to report it | 15:13 |
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| SRabbelier | JaneWells: curious, not sure what to do with that | 15:15 |
| JaneWells | i'll be adding more mentors as they send me their link_ids, will keep an eye and see if the behavior continues/changes/etc | 15:16 |
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| SRabbelier | JaneWells: ok, please do | 15:18 |
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| _kiko1 | it seems, all are working fine now :) | 15:27 |
| SRabbelier | _kiko1: excellent! | 15:28 |
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| svaksha | hi, it should be possible for an admin to add a gmail id as a mentor via melange? a project admin was unable to add my id, so is this the place to get help about it? | 15:47 |
| SRabbelier | svaksha: no, the mentor needs to have a profile in Melange | 15:49 |
| SRabbelier | svaksha: and then the admin can add the mentor by their link_id | 15:49 |
| svaksha | SRabbelier: hmm..not sure what you mean by profile in melange. Is a link_id==gmail Id? | 15:50 |
| SRabbelier | svaksha: no | 15:50 |
| SRabbelier | svaksha: sign in to the iste | 15:50 |
| SRabbelier | svaksha: and click "Create a profile" on the left hand side | 15:50 |
| svaksha | ah, ok | 15:51 |
| * svaksha wonders why melange does not use the gmail ID by default | 15:52 | |
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| westi | hmm 500 errors are back :-( | 15:56 |
| aviraldg | yeah | 15:58 |
| SRabbelier | westi: where? | 16:00 |
| westi | SRabbelier: was on a create task post. but I get it on GET now as well http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/create/google/gci2010/wordpress | 16:00 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+vE> (at www.google-melange.com) | 16:00 |
| SRabbelier | westi: heh, looks like AppEngine is having trouble itself | 16:01 |
| westi | SRabbelier: :-( | 16:02 |
| SRabbelier | westi: just try again | 16:02 |
| westi | SRabbelier: worked thanks | 16:03 |
| SRabbelier | westi: good :) | 16:03 |
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| svaksha | hmm ... melange does not let me accept the mentor invite. I get "Google Maps API key not present." error. Any idea what is wrong here? | 16:18 |
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| ArthurLiu | I just got a ClaimRequest on a task that was already Claimed, how come? http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/debian/t128985771180 and http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/debian/t128985773083 | 16:23 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+vV> (at www.google-melange.com) | 16:23 |
| svaksha | When I try to insert the key in the Google Maps field Site Settings it asks me to sign in and out "Please sign out and sign in again as a Site Developer to view this page.". Doing that also throws the same old error. | 16:24 |
| ArthurLiu | oh, apparently it's my mistake | 16:30 |
| ArthurLiu | silly question, but how do I delete a task? | 16:31 |
| ArthurLiu | assuming it's unclaimed | 16:31 |
| madrazr | ArthurLiu: The task edit page should have a delete button | 16:32 |
| madrazr | ArthurLiu: I was really scared for a moment to see that you got a claim request for the claimed task, that would have been an epic fail | 16:33 |
| ArthurLiu | apparently that was an error during my mass task creation | 16:34 |
| ArthurLiu | I seem to remember about an edit button while I was editing tasks last week | 16:35 |
| ArthurLiu | but I can't see it anymore on the task page | 16:35 |
| SRabbelier | svaksha: and now? | 16:35 |
| ArthurLiu | ok, so apparently Edit links disappear from tasks that had been previously ClaimRequest-ed, even if I rejected the ClaimRequest | 16:36 |
| ArthurLiu | filling the bug right now :) | 16:37 |
| svaksha | SRabbelier: now when i scroll down, a message pops up: "This web site needs a different Google Maps API key. A new key can be generated at http://code.google.com/apis/maps/signup.html." | 16:37 |
| SRabbelier | svaksha: ok, thanks, am looking into it | 16:37 |
| svaksha | SRabbelier: ok. i'm logging off for tonight, so ping my nick if you need to leave a message. | 16:39 |
| svaksha | SRabbelier: thanks | 16:39 |
| SRabbelier | svaksha: thanks for reporting | 16:39 |
| svaksha | yw | 16:39 |
| madrazr | ArthurLiu: yes that is by design, anything that was requested/made public should not be delete-able/editable, if SRabbelier thinks we should be able to do it, we will add it back | 16:40 |
| ArthurLiu | oh | 16:40 |
| ArthurLiu | well, http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1016 | 16:40 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+vk> (at code.google.com) | 16:40 |
| ArthurLiu | I have a Task that was an input mistake during mass filling | 16:40 |
| ArthurLiu | and a student attempted to claim it | 16:41 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: no, I agree, they should first make it unclaimed, and public | 16:41 |
| ArthurLiu | I want to delete it | 16:41 |
| ArthurLiu | sounds like a reasonable scenario | 16:41 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: wait, they can't even remove it if it's not claimed? | 16:41 |
| ArthurLiu | SRabbelier, that is the case I'm seeing | 16:42 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: no, once it moves out of "Open" state they cannot | 16:42 |
| madrazr | SRabbelier: since it becomes a public property | 16:43 |
| SRabbelier | madrazr: I agree with ArthurLiu, they should be able to fix mistakes | 16:43 |
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| madrazr | SRabbelier: Ok then | 16:43 |
| madrazr | ArthurLiu: I will fix the issue, you have filed | 16:43 |
| ArthurLiu | great | 16:44 |
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| aviraldg | I have a question... | 17:21 |
| madrazr | aviraldg: shoot | 17:22 |
| aviraldg | I've "completed" a task, as in it's in the Status-NeedsReview state... and I've talked to a couple of mentors from that project and they say it's okay | 17:23 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: then they should go to the task and close it so that you can move on to your next task | 17:23 |
| aviraldg | however... the very fact that it's in Status-NeedsReview is preventing me from claiming another task. | 17:23 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: correct | 17:24 |
| aviraldg | if I withdraw from the task at this point | 17:24 |
| aviraldg | will they still be able to close the task? | 17:24 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: no | 17:26 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: you won't get points for it either | 17:26 |
| SRabbelier | aviraldg: you'll just have to wait until they close the task | 17:26 |
| aviraldg | hmmm... it's a very minor task and I'm really feeling like moving on to something bigger :'( | 17:27 |
| aviraldg | guess I'll wait though | 17:27 |
| madrazr | aviraldg: yes you will have to wait | 17:33 |
| aviraldg | ok | 17:33 |
| madrazr | aviraldg: that is the rule of the contest | 17:33 |
| JaneWells | aviraldg: why not get a hard start by starting on a new task so that when they do close the first one, you'll be well on your way with the second? | 17:40 |
| JaneWells | s/hard/head | 17:40 |
| aviraldg | yeah | 17:40 |
| aviraldg | currently doing just that | 17:40 |
| aviraldg | though it would be a waste if two people ended up doing the same thing | 17:41 |
| JaneWells | aviraldg: guess it depends on your definition of waste | 17:41 |
| aviraldg | yeah | 17:41 |
| aviraldg | sure ... you could use the better patch | 17:42 |
| dukeleto | hola | 17:54 |
| dukeleto | I just created http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1018 | 17:54 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+x5> (at code.google.com) | 17:54 |
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| dukeleto | I am still confused about the "hours/days" field. Are they total elapsed time that the ticket is open? | 17:56 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: They're the total time a student has for the task, the time starts counting from the moment their claim request is accepted | 17:57 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: oy vey. Is it possible to modify the time associated to task after a claim request? Probably not. This is getting icky. | 17:57 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: they can get an extension if the time expires | 17:59 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: yeah, but i didn't realize it was elapsed time. I need to change all my times. Oy. | 18:00 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: what did you think it was? | 18:00 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: what are you changing the values from/to? | 18:02 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: i thought it was "this is how many hours it will roughly take to do this" | 18:03 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: it was not clear at all | 18:03 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: wait | 18:08 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: that's what it means | 18:08 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: i don't mean "elapsed time" | 18:08 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: so when i put "10 hours" i was thinking "10 hours of work" | 18:08 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: not "10 hours from when you claim the task" | 18:09 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: how did you expect it to work then? | 18:09 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: that is very different. People have to sleep and eat and occasionally take a bio break, if they know what is good for them | 18:09 |
| JaneWells | SRabbelier: question: is there no way to contact students other than leaving a comment on the task page? | 18:09 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: i had no idea the time limit was built into the task. I thought it was for the students to take into account when choosing tasks | 18:09 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: ah, that's been discussed on the list though | 18:09 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: correct | 18:10 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: see also http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=495 | 18:10 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/39u7> (at code.google.com) | 18:10 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: which list? | 18:11 |
| JaneWells | i don't have links to profiles or anything, just a username on claiming comments | 18:11 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: there is a mailing list about this stuff? | 18:11 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: yeah, correct | 18:11 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: on the gci-discuss list | 18:12 |
| JaneWells | do the students have to create profiles, or are they just registering a username and having at it? | 18:12 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: i am not even subscribed to that. I thought everything was on the gsoc-discuss list | 18:12 |
| dukeleto | JaneWells: i wish they had profiles. Seems like they are just ghosts with usernames | 18:13 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: at first the latter, after completing their first task the former | 18:13 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: legal won't allow us to collect any info on them more than that until they've completed their first task... | 18:13 |
| JaneWells | yeah, it's rough b/c we're getting people just saying 'i want to claim this task' and we have no idea who they are, if they're qualified, etc. that seems like an odd position for legal to take. | 18:14 |
| JaneWells | oh well | 18:14 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: ok. Please kick the legal department in the face for me, bro. | 18:14 |
| JaneWells | we'll just plan for a high number of fails in teh first 3 day block i guess | 18:14 |
| JaneWells | (we all know these kids have facebook accounts etc.... it's not like they are anonymous on line) | 18:15 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: it's not like GSoC | 18:15 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: I'm sure Carol can fwd your concerns to the right people ;) | 18:15 |
| dreimark | dukeleto: talk with them on irc or mumble | 18:15 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: thank, i appreciate it ;) | 18:16 |
| dreimark | or bigbluebutton | 18:16 |
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| madrazr | JaneWells: if we are through with fails in the first 3 day block, it is still a win. This is the first time GCI is running (well there was GHOP which was different). We will learn and we need time to learn | 18:16 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1016 you got updatez | 18:17 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+vk> (at code.google.com) | 18:17 |
| madrazr | JaneWells: We == "the entire community" | 18:17 |
| JaneWells | :) | 18:17 |
| madrazr | JaneWells: I would just like to draw the attention to the fact that nothing started "perfect" (Well there is TeX ;-) ) | 18:18 |
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| JaneWells | heh | 18:20 |
| dukeleto | SRabbelier: danke, i responded. | 18:21 |
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| SRabbelier | dukeleto: there's carols | 18:27 |
| SRabbelier | dukeleto: or perhaps we should move this to #gsoc | 18:27 |
| carols | hi dukeleto | 18:27 |
| carols | :-) | 18:27 |
| SRabbelier | JaneWells: can you join #gsoc too? | 18:30 |
| JaneWells | sure | 18:30 |
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| toks | site is very annoiying :( | 18:47 |
| SRabbelier | toks: why? | 18:49 |
| toks | not responsive | 18:50 |
| toks | and you cant open in another tab a project | 18:51 |
| toks | at least it works :P | 18:52 |
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| m4k3r | Awaiting Registration == task solved? | 20:24 |
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| ArthurLiu | when will the fix for http://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=1016 be deployed? | 22:11 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/8+vk> (at code.google.com) | 22:11 |
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| fyskij | hi | 23:43 |
| fyskij | there's an uploading form on melange' | 23:43 |
| fyskij | s/'/? | 23:43 |
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