Wednesday, 2021-01-13

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pepijndevosmwk, I pointed a debugger at that spice.cc warning, but not having much luck with my limited understanding of yosys internals. I'm trying to see which modules it knows about.12:26
pepijndevosoh my goodddd I know...12:30
pepijndevosthe design->module includes a \ at the start, while the cell->type does not12:30
pepijndevosIs one of the two more correct than the other? Like, should I just slap a blackslash at the front of the cell type and be done with it?12:32
pepijndevosIn Verilog, is \foo different from foo?12:49
pepijndevosI seem to recall \foo is a "raw" identifier12:50
pepijndevosSo seems there is a mismatch between the $_NORMAL identifiers generated by `synth` and the \$_RAW_ identifiers in simcells.v12:52
daveshahyou need to add -icells to read_verilog12:52
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pepijndevoshuh12:54
pepijndevosoh okay that works... weird12:54
pepijndevoscool thanks! Now I have a blinky in spice... yay?13:02
pepijndevoshint: https://www.isotel.eu/mixedsim/intro/concept.html13:02
tpbTitle: Mixed Signal Simulation Concept ISOTEL (at www.isotel.eu)13:02
pepijndevosbleg, write_spice inserts DC sources, which doesn't work for digital models.13:32
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pepijndevosWould be nice if you could pass to `synth` what kind of flops you want. Seems to be "all of them" rn15:14
pepijndevosI guess just run dfflegalize right after15:14
Loftypepijndevos: yeah, that's the idea15:15
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mwk*sigh* we had a discussion about it15:21
mwkthere's no good way rn15:21
mwkbasically `synth` should not be considered a standalone synth flow15:21
mwkand you're supposed to run dfflegalize *and* rerun abc afterwards (because dfflegalize can emit more gates)15:22
pepijndevoshrm15:25
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pepijndevoshuh, just realized there isn't a fine LUT cell, so `synth -lut 4` just leaves you with a $lut while `synth` produces fine cells.19:45
LoftyI don't think a fine LUT cell makes any sense19:48
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mrecSo acrylic is cutting fine with a single flute upcut bit (which is advertised almost everywhere in the net)19:58
mrecnext step m0.5/m0.8 gear cutting19:59
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