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| tansell | Epyon, ping? | 00:04 |
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| tansell | tote, ping? | 02:52 |
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| Finn | Hey. | 04:19 |
| Finn | How goes life? | 04:19 |
| tansell | busy | 04:20 |
| Finn | Oh? | 04:21 |
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| Finn | Welcome konr! | 04:37 |
| konr | Hi, Finn! | 04:37 |
| Finn | Are you new here? | 04:37 |
| tansell | Finn, GSoC applications to review :) | 04:38 |
| Finn | Hopefully you'll get mine soon. XD | 04:38 |
| Finn | I kinda sorta just learned about it yesterday... :$ | 04:38 |
| konr | not really... I wanted to propose a project on Daneel on TP | 04:39 |
| konr | I have 24 hours, do you think I'm too late? :D | 04:39 |
| Finn | Only 12, isn't it? | 04:39 |
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| konr | ops, wrong place of the planet, then | 04:40 |
| Finn | I think it's 12:00 noon EST? | 04:40 |
| Finn | 19:00 UTC. | 04:40 |
| konr | I'm glad you told me that! | 04:41 |
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| Finn | Indeed. :P | 04:41 |
| konr | Are there many proposals for daneel? I spend some time working on other proposals and finishing a project (so to make time for SoC), but It'd be really nice to work on TP | 04:42 |
| konr | I spent some time studying the code already... | 04:42 |
| Finn | I have no idea... :\ My proposal is for a new ruleset. | 04:48 |
| Finn | ... | 04:48 |
| Finn | That's not even close to the emoticon I was expecting. | 04:49 |
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| Finn | ...Question... Would it matter than I'm Canadian? | 05:01 |
| tansell | Finn, not at all | 05:17 |
| Finn | Cool. | 05:17 |
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| tansell | http://tinyurl.com/gsoc2010-student-deadline | 05:20 |
| tpb | Title: Countdown to 9. Apr 2010 19:00 in UTC (at tinyurl.com) | 05:20 |
| Finn | Dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuuuuun... | 05:20 |
| tansell | konr, your better off submitting your proposal early | 05:31 |
| tansell | and refining it | 05:32 |
| Finn | Ya... I'm probably doomed on that front. :\ | 05:33 |
| Finn | ... | 05:33 |
| Finn | Gotta stop using that. | 05:33 |
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| Finn | Can anyone give me pointers on writing milestones? | 05:53 |
| Finn | Err... Nevermind. | 06:04 |
| Finn | However, I would like to know if I can use beta testing as a mile stone? | 06:04 |
| Finn | Like public testing? | 06:04 |
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| bisc | Finn: I think that your code will have enough time to be tested afterwards, but will probably lack development. | 06:09 |
| Finn | Righto. | 06:09 |
| Finn | Thanks. ^^ | 06:10 |
| Finn | Err... I think. | 06:10 |
| StupidIncarnate | llnz there? | 06:21 |
| llnz | StupidIncarnate: yes | 06:22 |
| StupidIncarnate | I was just wondering if i need to add anything to my proposal on socg. if you get a minute, could you look it over? | 06:23 |
| tansell | StupidIncarnate, I wanted to chat to you about the partial download thingy | 06:26 |
| StupidIncarnate | oh ok | 06:26 |
| StupidIncarnate | did I misunderstand what difference support was supposed to do? | 06:28 |
| StupidIncarnate | err what it was* | 06:28 |
| tote | tansell: pong | 06:33 |
| tansell | tote, did you end up making a decision? | 06:36 |
| tote | tansell: i sent in a student proposal a few hours ago | 06:41 |
| tote | tansell: so i guess i have made my decision :) | 06:42 |
| tansell | StupidIncarnate, the python side already only downloads differences if you use libtpclient-py | 06:42 |
| tansell | tote, does tpclient-pyweb use libtpclient-py? | 06:42 |
| tote | tansell: yes | 06:44 |
| StupidIncarnate | oh, if tote's gonna do it again this year, should I even fix up my app? If he's a shoe-in for the project I mean. | 06:50 |
| StupidIncarnate | shoe-in..... | 06:50 |
| StupidIncarnate | oh shoo-in* | 06:50 |
| tote | StupidIncarnate: do it, i have written a proposal for another project, not tp :) | 06:51 |
| StupidIncarnate | oh ok then | 06:51 |
| Finn | ... | 06:51 |
| Finn | Is the use of UInt64 really necessary? :P | 06:52 |
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| Finn | 19 decimal places is a lot. | 06:53 |
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| kerbe | space is big place to illustrate. :) | 06:58 |
| Finn | True. :P | 07:00 |
| Finn | ... | 07:01 |
| Finn | This is a little intimidating... | 07:01 |
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| Finn | ...I think I should come back next year... | 07:05 |
| StupidIncarnate | hey tote, I'm not reading this code wrong am I? The javascript expects the "array" of objects that come in from the python portion to have every object in the universe listed right? | 07:12 |
| tote | StupidIncarnate: if i remember correctly yes, atleast all objects the player can see | 07:15 |
| StupidIncarnate | ok | 07:16 |
| kerbe | Finn: imho you do better if you stick around whole year | 07:17 |
| kerbe | it won't get better if you disappear for year, and then next time GSoC is announced pop in and try to catch it all at one big mouthful. :) | 07:17 |
| Finn | I just meant not make a huge ass of myself in GSoC this year. :P | 07:17 |
| kerbe | yeah, that's perhaps good thing to do, not getting stress of it for this year. :) | 07:18 |
| kerbe | but of course if you have good idea, submitting it doesnt hurt much, even though time is limited. | 07:18 |
| Finn | Ok... | 07:18 |
| Finn | Well, I've already submitted it... | 07:18 |
| Finn | If I withdraw it now, then change my mind later, would I have to redo it all? | 07:19 |
| Finn | Or would GSoC remember it? | 07:19 |
| Finn | ... | 07:19 |
| Finn | That didn't make a lot of sense. | 07:19 |
| Finn | Uhh,,, | 07:19 |
| Finn | Ya... | 07:19 |
| kerbe | if you have submitted it already, I don't see any reason why to withdraw it | 07:19 |
| Finn | I didn't exactly think it through. XD | 07:20 |
| kerbe | if it isn't good enough for this year, you're not selected, and you can try to get it better for next year | 07:20 |
| Finn | I haven't even been able to get the cpp server to compile. :$ | 07:20 |
| kerbe | that's a bit drawback. :P | 07:20 |
| Finn | It's been driving me crazy. | 07:20 |
| kerbe | but what I have been looking, quite many applicants have had same problem. :P | 07:20 |
| kerbe | you do it on windows or linux? | 07:21 |
| Finn | Darwin. | 07:21 |
| Finn | aka OSX. | 07:21 |
| kerbe | is osx in list of supported os? | 07:21 |
| Finn | I can't get gmp to compile right. | 07:21 |
| Finn | Uhh... | 07:21 |
| Finn | No idea. | 07:21 |
| Finn | So far it appears I just need Guile | 07:22 |
| kerbe | what I have thought it compiles on linux, and if you are desperate and have nerves and time, you can compile it on windows | 07:22 |
| kerbe | haven't seen a word about mac world. :) | 07:22 |
| Finn | Well, OSX runs on a modified version of Unix. | 07:22 |
| Finn | With a lot of the intelligent parts removed. | 07:23 |
| Finn | For some stupid reason. | 07:23 |
| Finn | Still, I scrape by. | 07:23 |
| Finn | Usually. | 07:23 |
| Finn | Or lose sleep. | 07:23 |
| kerbe | osx is modded version of bsd (which is unix, true, but still a bit different) :) | 07:24 |
| kerbe | some things work easily, others with much work. :P | 07:24 |
| Finn | Indeed. | 07:24 |
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| kerbe | you don't have possibility to use it in linux? | 07:25 |
| kerbe | ie. possibility to develop on linux & trying compiles on linux? | 07:25 |
| Finn | I could try triple booting... | 07:25 |
| Finn | Though I've never done it. :$ | 07:25 |
| kerbe | is your comp i386 processor, or those older macs with um... mips? | 07:25 |
| Finn | ...Does it run on Sparc? | 07:25 |
| Finn | Ya, I'm on i386 | 07:26 |
| Finn | The old ones were PowerPC. | 07:26 |
| kerbe | triple booting could perhaps work then, as architechture is same | 07:26 |
| kerbe | or if you have some virtual machine thingy, trying it there. as you don't need gui, it would be quite light | 07:26 |
| Finn | ... | 07:26 |
| Finn | You just blew my mind. | 07:27 |
| kerbe | oh, sorry. I didn't mean to cause mess. :) | 07:27 |
| Finn | lol | 07:27 |
| Finn | ... | 07:28 |
| Finn | /cry | 07:28 |
| Finn | I don't remember what Virtual Machine I used to use. | 07:28 |
| StupidIncarnate | tansell: I'm still confused what about the partial download thing you wanted to talk to me about? To tell me that the lib already has it set up like that? | 07:29 |
| Finn | Should I just use Ubuntu? | 07:30 |
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| kerbe | Finn: which linux brand you choose is imho your own opinion. I myself use gentoo at own server, at work I have centos and at home I have debian. :) | 07:33 |
| Finn | 10-4 | 07:33 |
| llnz | Finn: there is instructions for compiling tpserver-cpp on MacOS X | 07:33 |
| Finn | I know a lot of my classmates use Ubuntu, so I could always go to them fo- | 07:34 |
| llnz | http://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Tpserver-cpp_Setup | 07:34 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/rVo> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 07:34 |
| Finn | ... | 07:34 |
| Finn | That... | 07:34 |
| Finn | That works... | 07:35 |
| llnz | :-) | 07:35 |
| Finn | :$:$:$ | 07:35 |
| Finn | Thanks. | 07:35 |
| Finn | Never even thought about using fink. | 07:35 |
| llnz | sorry i didn't notice earlier, have windows covering IRC | 07:35 |
| Finn | It's ok. | 07:35 |
| Finn | At least you caught me before I spent a huge amount of time getting and messing with Ubuntu. :P | 07:36 |
| llnz | if those instructions aren't up to date, please update them | 07:36 |
| Finn | Will do, once I find out. | 07:37 |
| Finn | I must say, thank you all. | 07:37 |
| Finn | My brain hurts a lot less now. | 07:38 |
| kerbe | I must start from now on telling ppl that I don't know anything about anything, but (here goes what I'm going to say) :) | 07:39 |
| Finn | lol | 07:39 |
| Finn | Me too. | 07:39 |
| Finn | High five! | 07:39 |
| Finn | *Ksssssssh* | 07:40 |
| kerbe | :P | 07:41 |
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| Finn | Seems to be compiling ok. | 07:45 |
| Finn | ... | 07:45 |
| Finn | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF | 07:45 |
| Finn | Righto. | 07:49 |
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| StupidIncarnate | actually llnz? | 07:54 |
| llnz | ? | 07:54 |
| StupidIncarnate | just a clarifying thing, when I say backend python in my proposal, does it sound like I'm referring to the libs and whatnot | 07:55 |
| StupidIncarnate | even if it's a proposal for pyweb | 07:56 |
| llnz | StupidIncarnate: it wouldn't hurt to explain the tpclient-pyweb architecture very briefly to make it clear what you are referring to | 08:00 |
| StupidIncarnate | ok that helps. Thanks | 08:01 |
| Epyon | tansell, mithro, pong! | 08:03 |
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| tansell-laptop | sorry need to run | 08:04 |
| Epyon | D: | 08:04 |
| tansell-laptop | Epyon, wanted to chat about tpserver-py inner workings | 08:04 |
| Epyon | py? | 08:04 |
| Epyon | ah | 08:05 |
| Epyon | ok, will catch you later | 08:05 |
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| llnz | later all | 11:22 |
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| marcel_ | Hi, 1h and 35 mins left until gsoc student application deadline, is that right? | 14:24 |
| StupidIncarnate | 7pm utc ain't it? | 14:25 |
| marcel_ | yeah | 14:26 |
| marcel_ | wait oh more than :S | 14:26 |
| StupidIncarnate | so 5 hours ain't it? | 14:26 |
| marcel_ | *then | 14:26 |
| marcel_ | 4:34 ? | 14:27 |
| StupidIncarnate | http://www.google.com/search?q=utc+time&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a | 14:27 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/5fRK> (at www.google.com) | 14:27 |
| marcel_ | ~14:28 UTC | 14:28 |
| StupidIncarnate | yep | 14:28 |
| marcel_ | Yeah, I am asking because I would like to have another look at my proposal. | 14:29 |
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| isra17 | good morning folks | 16:37 |
| jmtan | morning | 16:38 |
| Greywhind | morning | 16:51 |
| Greywhind | well, afternoon here | 16:51 |
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| epyon | cahir ;) | 19:01 |
| cahir | hi pal :) | 19:03 |
| epyon | ^^ | 19:03 |
| cahir | don't expect me to be awake, when our mentors are awake - I'm not like you ;P | 19:04 |
| epyon | cahir, why not, you can wake up early xP | 19:04 |
| epyon | cahir, also, I sleep 24.00-8.00 now :P | 19:05 |
| cahir | impossible | 19:09 |
| epyon | believe it ;> | 19:10 |
| cahir | okey... we're emptying a beer barrel (5 litres) with Alien | 19:10 |
| kerbe | epyon, how can you sleep that much? :) | 19:13 |
| kerbe | good sleeping talent there. :) | 19:13 |
| isra17 | Do I need to set my proposal public? | 19:16 |
| isra17 | oh, nvm | 19:17 |
| isra17 | got my answer in the mailing list | 19:17 |
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