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| mithro | morning people | 00:01 |
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| llnz | hi mithro | 00:12 |
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| llnz | hi mhilmi | 00:13 |
| mhilmi | hey llnz | 00:13 |
| mhilmi | been a while, how goes it | 00:13 |
| llnz | fine thanks, you? | 00:13 |
| mhilmi | exhausted, 2nd to last year of uni, racing to get finished sometime this century lol | 00:14 |
| tansell | JLP, ping? | 00:14 |
| mhilmi | thinking about trying to pickup where I off last year and continuing work on Parsek and perhaps the cpp lib | 00:15 |
| mhilmi | what are your guys top priority projects for gsoc or is it still pretty open ended? | 00:17 |
| tansell | mhilmi, our top projects are to continue to improve existing things | 00:17 |
| tansell | Greywhind, ping? | 00:17 |
| mhilmi | so would Parsek be outside that (not being the primary client)? Also how bout an emphasis on the cpp lib? Was thinking about trying to make that multi-platform capable. | 00:19 |
| mhilmi | er as in Windows support | 00:20 |
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| tansell | hello Skywhe and Reginleifu | 00:43 |
| Skywhe | hello its nice to meet you | 00:44 |
| Skywhe | just sent you guys an email! | 00:44 |
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| karan | Hi | 02:10 |
| karan | Hi,I'd like to work on a ruleset using Python as a part of Gsoc. Could anyone let me know about some of the rulesets that are currently being worked on? | 02:12 |
| tansell | karan, where you able to get the tpserver-py working? | 02:13 |
| karan | i was able to configure the server, but when I tried to login using tpclient-pywx, it failed to do so | 02:19 |
| karan | it was able to recognize the server | 02:19 |
| karan | but was unable to login | 02:19 |
| tansell | karan, did you add a user to login as? | 02:21 |
| tansell | tpserver-py doesn't automatically add users - unlike tpserver-cpp | 02:21 |
| karan | oh | 02:22 |
| karan | but i looked at the database.sql file | 02:22 |
| karan | it had a line in which it added a user | 02:22 |
| karan | I just changed the settings and used that user settings to login | 02:23 |
| karan | how should I add a user? | 02:23 |
| karan | I;ve already edited the database settings in config.py | 02:26 |
| tansell | I recommend removing your config.py | 02:35 |
| tansell | and then following the INSTALL instructions | 02:35 |
| karan | its running now | 02:42 |
| karan | i hadn't imported the mysql file | 02:42 |
| karan | So now which rulesets should I start looking at for my application? | 02:42 |
| karan | however, on running turn.py, i get the following error: | 02:44 |
| karan | Traceback (most recent call last): | 02:44 |
| karan | File "turn.py", line 130, in <module> | 02:44 |
| karan | main() | 02:44 |
| karan | File "turn.py", line 101, in main | 02:44 |
| karan | db.query("USE %(database)s", database=sys.argv[1]) | 02:44 |
| karan | IndexError: list index out of range | 02:44 |
| karan | got it | 02:45 |
| karan | i hadnt mentioned the database | 02:45 |
| tansell | karan, are you running the git version of the code? | 02:46 |
| tansell | ezod, ping? | 02:46 |
| karan | no, i think not . I think I downloaded it from the site | 02:47 |
| karan | I'll download it from git now | 02:47 |
| karan | its not working | 03:09 |
| karan | i followed the guidelines written over here : http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/gettingstarted.php | 03:09 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/J4s> (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 03:09 |
| tansell | it's not working is not a useful thing to say | 03:09 |
| tansell | what is not working | 03:09 |
| tansell | how is it not working | 03:09 |
| karan | i ran the server and all | 03:09 |
| karan | but when i try to login | 03:10 |
| karan | it doesnt login | 03:10 |
| tansell | karan, did you follow the instructions in the INSTALL file like I suggested? | 03:10 |
| karan | yes | 03:10 |
| tansell | karan, then what happened? | 03:10 |
| tansell | it doesn't login is not useful either | 03:10 |
| tansell | please explain with exact details what is going on and how to reproduce the behaviour | 03:11 |
| karan | its running the addgame, populate,adduser and turn commands successfully | 03:11 |
| karan | but when i try to login through the client | 03:11 |
| karan | it shows a window with a red minus sign | 03:11 |
| karan | that's it | 03:11 |
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| tansell | screenshots would be useful | 03:17 |
| tansell | and paste the output of tpserver-py into a pastebin somewhere | 03:17 |
| tansell | karan, please post it on the web somewhere | 03:18 |
| karan | ok | 03:18 |
| karan | http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/users/kvsingh/Screenshot.png | 03:20 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/5UQz> (at www.cse.iitk.ac.in) | 03:20 |
| tansell | and what is the output on the tpserver-py console? | 03:23 |
| karan | http://pastebin.com/NknmT7zh | 03:23 |
| tpb | Title: karan@karan-laptop:~/tpserver- - Anonymous - NknmT7zh - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) | 03:23 |
| tansell | karan, | 03:24 |
| tansell | look at the output from | 03:24 |
| tansell | karan@karan-laptop:~/tpserver-py$ ./tpserver-py-tool --adduser tp karan hello | 03:24 |
| karan | oh | 03:24 |
| tansell | you should probably log a bug about that screenshot not saying an error message | 03:27 |
| karan | ok | 03:27 |
| tansell | fixing the bug would be even better :) | 03:28 |
| karan | is avahi_disabled related to avahi-daemon? | 03:28 |
| tansell | yeah | 03:30 |
| tansell | it's disabled because it's broken | 03:30 |
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| llnz | later all | 03:32 |
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| karan | should i reinstall avahi-daemon? | 03:33 |
| tansell | karan, no need the interface to the avahi-daemon is broken | 03:37 |
| karan | so is it a problem with the client? | 03:38 |
| tansell | what do you mean? | 03:39 |
| karan | As in, is it a bug? | 03:39 |
| tansell | what is a bug? | 03:39 |
| karan | err ... some error in the coding? | 03:40 |
| tansell | I still have no idea what you are talking about | 03:40 |
| karan | or am i missing some library? | 03:40 |
| karan | I mean, can I get the server to work by installing some library or something? | 03:41 |
| tansell | no | 03:43 |
| tansell | karan, did you even look closely at the output of the line | 03:43 |
| karan | yes | 03:44 |
| tansell | what does the output look like? | 03:44 |
| tansell | the help text right? | 03:44 |
| karan | It says No module named avahi_disabled | 03:44 |
| tansell | ignore that | 03:44 |
| karan | it says # | 03:44 |
| karan | Using pyZeroConf ZeroConf implimentation... | 03:44 |
| tansell | keep going | 03:45 |
| karan | # | 03:47 |
| karan | --cleanup | 03:47 |
| karan | # | 03:47 |
| karan | Try and remove any stale locks which still exist. | 03:47 |
| karan | this one? | 03:47 |
| tansell | no | 03:47 |
| tansell | look at line 107 | 03:48 |
| karan | oh ... ok .. i thought when i added a user i added a player | 03:48 |
| tansell | karan, no what is happening is the instructions are wrong | 03:49 |
| tansell | so when you entered a non-existant command it output the help text | 03:50 |
| karan | oh | 03:51 |
| karan | ok | 03:51 |
| tansell | these types of problems you are going to have to figure out yourself if you where accepted into GSoC | 03:51 |
| karan | yeah .. i know | 03:52 |
| karan | i'll try to figure out things on my own | 03:52 |
| karan | but thanks a lot! | 03:53 |
| karan | Its still showing the Red minus sign. | 03:54 |
| tansell | no what is the output on the tpserver-py console? | 03:56 |
| tansell | s/no/now/ | 03:56 |
| karan | http://pastebin.com/9X2q4wdA | 03:57 |
| tpb | Title: karan@karan-laptop:~/tpserver- - Anonymous - 9X2q4wdA - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) | 03:57 |
| tansell | karan, so that looks fine | 03:58 |
| tansell | now what is the output of the tpserver when you try and login? | 03:59 |
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| karan | sorry, i hadn't opened the tpserver-py console before. I was only running the commands. Its able to log in now | 04:01 |
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| JLP | good morning everyone | 07:25 |
| JLP | tansell, mithro: pong | 07:29 |
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| null_000 | Morming all | 08:11 |
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| ezod | tansell: pong | 14:31 |
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| bzawisto | hm.. has anybody tested tpclient-pywx on Ubuntu 9.10 x86_64 ? | 15:54 |
| null_000 | yes | 15:54 |
| bzawisto | I can't connect to demo? servers | 15:55 |
| null_000 | demo servers are down | 15:55 |
| bzawisto | nor can it see my local one running | 15:55 |
| null_000 | try using git versions of server and client | 15:55 |
| bzawisto | yes, i have the newest trunk versions of both | 15:56 |
| null_000 | i have them and they work | 15:57 |
| null_000 | try running a single player game | 15:57 |
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| null_000 | that should run the server and connect automaticly | 15:57 |
| bzawisto | should I download the python server or c++ one ? | 15:58 |
| bzawisto | I have the second one onlu | 15:58 |
| bzawisto | only | 15:58 |
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| null_000 | try the c++ one | 15:59 |
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| bzawisto | how many listeners do you have after running backend in --verbose && --debug mode ? | 16:12 |
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| bzawisto | ok, it looks like I have passed the single player step by typing explicite my ip adress into adress field | 16:29 |
| bzawisto | btw, i think that parsing all options from file should be done in lua | 16:31 |
| bzawisto | much easier, simpler and works good as weel | 16:31 |
| bzawisto | well | 16:31 |
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| StupidIncarnate | hey all | 17:42 |
| StupidIncarnate | tote around? | 17:42 |
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| bzawisto | llnz: did you consider reimplementing all *config* stuff in tpserver-cpp in Lua ? | 20:04 |
| llnz | bzawisto: no | 20:04 |
| llnz | but it will need something like that at some point probably | 20:05 |
| llnz | maybe python? | 20:05 |
| bzawisto | maybe, i something similar in Lua in one backend | 20:05 |
| bzawisto | It went further that time, even to Luabind, but efficiency wasn't so good | 20:06 |
| bzawisto | so i stopped raw lua | 20:06 |
| bzawisto | but the usage is quite simple and you don't have to worry about all that 'parsing' issues | 20:06 |
| bzawisto | just use: config->getString(), config->getDouble(), and so on | 20:07 |
| bzawisto | anyway, i'am going through the code and i would like to propose some changes | 20:08 |
| bzawisto | especially if it comes to singletons | 20:09 |
| llnz | bzawisto: it might be nice to have something a bit more advance to allow to some abritray configs, such as a list of game names to redirect and where they redirect to | 20:09 |
| bzawisto | yeah, that's right | 20:09 |
| llnz | I think the singletons will go away over time | 20:09 |
| bzawisto | what about raw pointers ? | 20:10 |
| llnz | replaced by smart pointer in globals | 20:10 |
| bzawisto | i think RAII should be applied | 20:10 |
| bzawisto | yeas, boost::shared_ptrs for example | 20:10 |
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| bzawisto | quite a few things to be done during the summer, don't you think ? :) | 20:11 |
| llnz | maybe | 20:14 |
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| AlphonZeus | hello | 20:20 |
| llnz | hi AlphonZeus | 20:22 |
| bzawisto | hi | 20:22 |
| AlphonZeus | I'm a student participating in GSoC; I'm wondering if I can make a proposal for one of your projects | 20:22 |
| llnz | AlphonZeus: sure you can | 20:24 |
| AlphonZeus | I found interest in one of the Python based parts of Thousand Parsec projects, which is to integrate and improve schemepy. I'm also interested in helping out with single player ideas. I can add in different scenarios and missions for the player to go through, as well as taking a shot at loading and saving scenarios. Some missions can include search and rescue, gathering, and combat. | 20:26 |
| AlphonZeus | I can also be able to make a design for libtpclient-py (used by tpclient-pywx). | 20:26 |
| AlphonZeus | I can program a code for it to be called by many clients and client libraries. All the client has to do is contain a small program whose sole purpose is to call the libtpclient-py. This small program should be available for download and be placed on the homepage of the site for anyone who is interested for single-player mode. Another way to go about it is to include the small program with the client download so if the client feels like playing singl | 20:26 |
| llnz | AlphonZeus: read up on what has already been done for libtpproto-py and libtpclient-py and single player mode | 20:27 |
| llnz | and please don't spam the channel like that | 20:28 |
| AlphonZeus | Ok I'll do that to get updated. | 20:29 |
| bzawisto | llnz: did you think of following some coding standards in c++ backend, eg. private members with m_ prefix, using explicit with ctors and so on ? | 20:31 |
| llnz | bzawisto: yes and no, there are some mailing list discussions about this time last year about it | 20:32 |
| llnz | i really do hate m_ for private members | 20:32 |
| bzawisto | matter of taste ? | 20:34 |
| llnz | yeah | 20:34 |
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| bzawisto | so can you distinguish in any way between loca/global/private variables if you don't look at declaration of var ? | 20:35 |
| llnz | battlexml folder is the most recent addition, and maybe the best indication of current coding standards | 20:36 |
| llnz | bzawisto: not really | 20:36 |
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| bzawisto | ok, i will look at it | 20:36 |
| null_000 | evening all | 20:38 |
| AlphonZeus | Quick question about the single player: when you add opponents in the game, you can add in as many as you want? Or would it be preferred to be 1 vs 1. | 20:39 |
| AlphonZeus | hello | 20:39 |
| bzawisto | hi | 20:40 |
| llnz | AlphonZeus: it is possible to add many, iirc | 20:45 |
| AlphonZeus | I've noticed that there's no rewards/bonuses. Would it be possible to add in bonuses each time you go through opponents? | 20:49 |
| tradedaemon | wouldn't that unbalance the game a bit? | 20:54 |
| null_000 | not if the opponent gets the bonus ^_^ | 20:54 |
| AlphonZeus | It would get the player more into it because bonuses in games are like checklists for players to cross off. | 20:55 |
| llnz | AlphonZeus: that is possible with scoring in tpserver-cpp | 20:59 |
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| AlphonZeus | I see, well maybe that can be part of a new ruleset a modified one. | 21:03 |
| llnz | bbl, meeting | 21:04 |
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| StupidIncarnate | hmmm, Greywhind around yet? | 21:31 |
| Greywhind | i'm here | 21:31 |
| Greywhind | what's up? | 21:31 |
| StupidIncarnate | oh hey, Mithro said to talk to you about what converting from tp03 to tp04 entiles | 21:32 |
| StupidIncarnate | entails* | 21:32 |
| StupidIncarnate | said you did it last year with one of the clients | 21:32 |
| Greywhind | StupidIncarnate: you can look at my summary blog post, that would probably help | 21:33 |
| Greywhind | http://greywhind.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/gsoc-2009-final-report/ | 21:33 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/3yJz> (at greywhind.wordpress.com) | 21:33 |
| StupidIncarnate | what's aged properties? | 21:35 |
| Greywhind | aged properties are essentially for rulesets in which you only have information about things in a certain area | 21:36 |
| Greywhind | and things outside that area could change without your knowledge | 21:36 |
| Greywhind | so you can only know their "last known status," and this should be marked as possibly out-of-date info | 21:36 |
| StupidIncarnate | kind of like fog of war sort of thing? | 21:37 |
| StupidIncarnate | also, so it was pretty much changing stuff to the client then? | 21:41 |
| Greywhind | yeah, the C++ server should be pretty much fully TP04 capable at this point | 21:41 |
| StupidIncarnate | what sort of formate is the data in when it gets sent from the server? | 21:42 |
| StupidIncarnate | format* | 21:42 |
| StupidIncarnate | from what I gleaned from the php handler, it was it byte/hex? | 21:43 |
| Greywhind | StupidIncarnate: the existing clients have abstractions from the raw data | 21:44 |
| Greywhind | so, since i've mostly worked within that context, i'm not really an expert on the low-level networking details | 21:45 |
| tote | StupidIncarnate: im here now | 21:46 |
| StupidIncarnate | hmm ok | 21:46 |
| StupidIncarnate | thanks Greywhind | 21:47 |
| StupidIncarnate | question for you tote, I got mod_python running since I couldn't get wsgi working | 21:47 |
| StupidIncarnate | can I rename the wsgi file to .py and it'll still work or do I have to do something else/ | 21:48 |
| StupidIncarnate | ? | 21:48 |
| tote | hmm, isnt mod_python out dated? | 21:49 |
| StupidIncarnate | they only support 2.5 of python, but 2,2 of apache so I don't know | 21:50 |
| StupidIncarnate | I just couldn't get wsgi working after 7 hours of banging my head | 21:50 |
| tote | what was the problem with wsgi? | 21:50 |
| StupidIncarnate | apache wouldn't start because it didn't like the module for it | 21:50 |
| tote | what os? | 21:51 |
| StupidIncarnate | windows xp | 21:51 |
| tote | hmm, cant help you with that i think :/ | 21:52 |
| StupidIncarnate | so can I rename the file to .py or is it a special code set for wsgi specifically? | 21:53 |
| tote | you could try that, not sure if it will work tho | 21:54 |
| tote | mod_python is more like how php works, and not sure if it supports the wsgi python standard, which i built the client on | 21:54 |
| StupidIncarnate | hmm, ok, I'll try again at getting wsgi running | 21:55 |
| StupidIncarnate | did you have the py server running for the browser client or the c++ version? | 21:56 |
| tote | you could try another webserver that supports wsgi if that might be easier :) | 21:56 |
| StupidIncarnate | any suggestions? | 21:56 |
| tote | maybe cherrypy or twisted, both are written in python | 21:58 |
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| StupidIncarnate | so did you have the py server running for the browser client? | 22:03 |
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| tote | i mostly used the demo server that was up before, but i also ran a the c++ version, but the tp server doesnt matter | 22:05 |
| StupidIncarnate | you just need the libtpclient-py libs compiled? | 22:05 |
| tote | libtpclient-py and libtpproto-py | 22:06 |
| StupidIncarnate | is the setup file the kind of like a make file then? | 22:07 |
| tote | tpclient-pyweb.wsgi will run requirements.py which will setup the libs if i remember correctly | 22:09 |
| StupidIncarnate | automatically? you just have to have the source files and everything in the folders? | 22:10 |
| tote | yeah that should work | 22:13 |
| tote | i just cloned the repo and setup my apache config and got it working | 22:13 |
| StupidIncarnate | and then for the host, I can just do localhost:1334? | 22:13 |
| StupidIncarnate | or whatever port the server ends up using | 22:14 |
| tote | yep | 22:14 |
| StupidIncarnate | alright, then looks like I need wsgi working :/ | 22:14 |
| tote | yep, but if you just wanna try the client, you could use: http://tp.jbohman.com/ it should work | 22:15 |
| tpb | Title: Thousand Parsec Web Client (at tp.jbohman.com) | 22:15 |
| StupidIncarnate | lol, that solves everything for now then | 22:16 |
| StupidIncarnate | thanks | 22:16 |
| tote | hehe :D | 22:16 |
| StupidIncarnate | does posting to the metaserver option work or has the server code changed a bit? | 22:43 |
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| llnz | later all | 23:06 |
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| ezod | tansell: should we put a note at the top of the ideas page about what our development priorities are currently? | 23:07 |
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| balki | yes | 23:07 |
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