Monday, 2008-12-29

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tansell~seen nash00:03
tpbtansell: nash was last seen in #tp 5 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 36 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <nash> Yeah00:03
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tpbtansell: greywhind was last seen in #tp 6 weeks, 5 days, 8 hours, 18 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <Greywhind> i see00:03
Greywhindhello00:03
gregor__please start a server :)00:04
tansellhey Greywhind00:06
tansellhow goes things?00:06
Greywhindgood - how are you?00:06
tansellgregor__, I not quite sure how Lee had them setup on the server00:06
tansellit's pretty simple to start up a local server00:07
tansellGreywhind, not getting anything done00:07
Greywhind:-/00:07
Greywhindthat's too bad. other than that, how are you doing?00:07
tansellyeah I'm okay00:08
tansellI'm back in Adelaide at the moment00:08
tansell(attempting to) working from home00:08
Greywhindheh00:08
gregor__but why you have no server running, i mean, a metaserver exists...00:09
Greywhindhappy holidays :)00:09
tansellgregor__, there are normally two demo servers running00:09
Greywhindthey're both down at the moment, looks like00:09
tansellbut they seem to have gone down while everyone was out at xmas00:09
tansellgregor__, are you running ubuntu/debian?00:09
gregor__yes00:09
tanselldid you install the client from the package repository, or?00:10
gregor__yes00:10
gregor__eh, no00:11
gregor__from git00:11
tansellahh git is more up to date00:11
Greywhindi am going to get some dessert - be back in a few minutes00:11
tansellbut we also have a package repository at00:11
tansellhttp://packages.thousandparsec.net/00:11
tpbTitle: Index of / (at packages.thousandparsec.net)00:11
gregor__already tried to get it included into ubuntu or debian?00:12
tansellgregor__, we havn't really had anyone push for it00:12
tansellWe really need to update the getting started page :/00:13
tansellwe really need to update the website too00:13
gregor__make plan, deligate and enjoy. :D00:13
tansellgregor__, wanna help out? :)00:14
gregor__maybe, what to do?00:14
tansellgregor__, it's pretty easy to setup a local server00:14
tansellI wonder what happened to ezod00:15
tansell~seen ezod00:15
tpbtansell: ezod was last seen in #tp 3 weeks, 3 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <ezod> JLP: that's -9999 ebuild on amd6400:15
tansell:/00:15
gregor__you already said that... :D currently trying to install freeorion and testing it, then testing the local server issue00:15
tansellhttp://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Tpserver-cpp_Setup00:16
tpb<http://ln-s.net/rVo> (at www.thousandparsec.net)00:16
gregor__cogito is replaced in latest ubuntu with git-svn git-email git-cvs git-arch gitk git-core00:22
tansellcogito is not actually needed any more00:23
tansellfeel free to fix the page :)00:23
gregor__needs registration :/00:23
tansellotherwise your wiki becomes a spam pit00:26
gregor__captchas?00:26
gregor__or blocking ips to post urls00:27
tansellif you know how to add captchas to mediawiki we could do that00:28
gregor__http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam00:29
tpb<http://ln-s.net/2d++> (at www.mediawiki.org)00:29
gregor__is there a singleplayer mode?00:32
tansellezod was working on that00:32
tansellbasically a wizard which sets up a local game with AI and stuff00:36
gregor__https://privatepaste.com/081TbjRCcL error while make'ing tpserver :/00:42
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tansellgregor__, can you paste more of the output?00:42
tansellIE what is proceeding that output00:44
gregor__https://privatepaste.com/8e14puFR8400:44
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gregor__doing 'make' inside tpserver-cpp00:45
tansellwhich version of ubuntu are you running?00:45
tansellintrepid?00:45
gregor__yes00:45
tansellhrm....00:46
tanselldpkg --list | grep ltdl00:46
gregor__ii  libguile-ltdl-1                                1.6.8-6.1ubuntu1                        Guile's patched version of libtool's libltdl00:47
gregor__ii  libltdl7                                       2.2.4-0ubuntu4                          A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU00:47
gregor__ii  libltdl7-dev                                   2.2.4-0ubuntu4                          A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU00:47
tansellhrm...00:49
tansellI'll have to test on my intrepid box00:49
tansellseems like ltdl has changed slightly00:50
tansellGreywhind, so any thoughts on tpclient-pywx stuff?00:51
tansellI havn't had time to touch it in months00:52
Greywhindtansell: i dunno. are we still planning to develop it further, or are we going to mostly work on the pyogre one?00:52
tansellwell, I would like for it to continue to develop00:52
tansellgregor__, what happens if you try and remove libltdl7-dev ?00:53
Greywhindthe next thing was integration with 3.0, right?00:53
gregor__wants to remove graphviz-dev guile-1.8-dev libgraphviz-dev libltdl7-dev00:53
tansellGreywhind, you mean python 3.0?00:57
Greywhindi mean the next version of the server, i think00:57
tanselloh you mean the next version of the protocol00:57
Greywhindright, the protocol00:57
tanselltp04 stuff00:57
* Greywhind has clearly stopped working on this for too long00:57
Greywhindtp04, yeah00:57
Greywhindthat was the next thing, right? or is it done?00:58
tansellyeah00:58
* tansell pokes ezod with something sharp and pointy00:58
tansellI was really waiting until ezod got this singleplayer stuff all working00:59
Greywhindhmm... maybe i could do some of it?00:59
tansellwell, I think he was pretty much done01:00
Greywhindah. k.01:00
tansellbut I'm not sure01:00
tansellone thing which would be helpful it to update/fix the tpclient-pywx client help page01:01
Greywhindon the wiki?01:01
gregor__tansell, what is this libltdl7?01:03
tansellGreywhind, it's actually on the website01:03
tansellbut there is a bunch of stuff in the wiki01:04
tanselllike links to jphr's risk video's01:04
tanselland juan's dronesec videos01:04
tanselllibltdl is the portable shared library dynamic loading library01:05
Greywhindhttp://thousandparsec.net/tp/gettingstarted.php01:05
tpbTitle: Thousand Parsec : Getting Started (at thousandparsec.net)01:05
Greywhind^ that page?01:05
tansellno01:05
tansellalthough that page needs a massive update too01:05
tansellif you start up the client and go to the help link01:05
Greywhindah01:06
Greywhindi'll have to do that01:06
Greywhindwhich means i have to install it on this computer >_>01:06
Greywhindi'll work on it tomorrow01:07
tansellGreywhind, actually you could just look in the git repository01:07
Greywhindi should still install it01:08
tansellhttp://git.thousandparsec.net/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=web.git;a=blob;f=documents/tpclient-pywx/index.php;h=f8b4b508e21bedbc6880c1fe1424baa8ed50a940;hb=master01:08
tpb<http://ln-s.net/2d+r> (at git.thousandparsec.net)01:08
Greywhindah. ok.01:09
Greywhindi'll also look more at that tomorrow - it's already 11:00 pm here01:09
Greywhindi'll be back01:11
tansellokay01:12
gregor__:/01:20
tansellGreywhind, I also forwarded you an updated version of the pdf manual01:21
tansellgregor__, you kind of turned up during  a slow period of development01:21
tansellgregor__, sorry about that01:23
gregor__This is free software! ;)01:28
gregor__http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/comp.php is that used anymore?01:32
tpbTitle: Thousand Parsec : AI Programming Competition (at www.thousandparsec.net)01:32
gregor__Because links unter heading "Rusty Russel on Wesnoth's AI" does not work.01:33
mithrogregor__: I doubt it's used anywhere anymore01:37
mithroit's slightly annoying that I've misplaced that video01:38
gregor__mithro, maybe other developers have it?02:06
mithrogregor__: it's probably in my backups somewhere02:06
mithrogregor__: you can watch the complete talk at the following URL02:06
mithrohttp://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2007/video/tuesday/tuesday_1450_gaming.ogg02:07
tpb<http://ln-s.net/2d:5> (at mirror.linux.org.au)02:07
tansellit's quite an entertaining talk02:16
tansellI highly recommend it02:16
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gregor__tansell, yeah.... starting a video is really hard :P02:54
tansellgregor__, hrm?02:55
gregor__inside this video02:55
gregor__when their try to start the wesnoth video02:55
gregor__maybe someone wants to start a server? :)03:48
gregor__i really would like to test the game03:48
gregor__tansell, are there builded versions of the server?04:28
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mithrohi gregor19:32
mithrothere are some precompiled binaries for older ubuntu systems19:32
gregormithro, where?20:34
tansellin packages.thousandparsec.net20:40
gregortansell, there is no intrepid?!20:43
tansellgregor, sorry - not yet, I'm working on it (in my very limited spare time)20:44
gregornot yet means when? how can i help you to get it faster?20:45
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tansellgregor, well you could become our package maintainer :)20:49
tansellbut I don't think that solves your problem20:49
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tansellgregor, I'll have a look at your compile error during lunch20:54
tansell(in about 20 minutes)20:55
mithrogregor: taking a look now21:37
gregor.21:37
gregorwhat information you need(specific file/output)?21:37
mithrothat was a long 20 minutes :)21:38
mithroI'm going to try and compile on my intrepid box and see if I can reproduce your problem21:39
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mithrogregor: think I have a fix22:00
gregor...? :)22:01
mithrogregor: will push when I confirm that it works :)22:03
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mithrowell it now compiles22:24
mithroand seems to run22:26
mithrowhats the error you are getting again?22:28
gregorcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status22:30
gregorlibtool: link: rm -f ".libs/tpserver-cppS.o"22:30
gregormake[2]: *** [tpserver-cpp] Fehler 122:30
mithrothats not the actual error22:33
mithrobut I found it in the logs22:33
CIA-24mithro tpserver-cpp * r8a017716ed85 / (4 files in 3 dirs):22:40
CIA-24Fixes to support the API change for libltdl.22:40
CIA-24This solves the the problem of the missing "lt_preloaded_symbols" symbol22:40
CIA-24on Ubuntu intrepid.22:40
CIA-24TODO: Update the inbuild libltdl to newer version.22:40
mithrogregor: there you go22:40
gregorhow to update via git?22:43
mithrogit pull22:43
gregorokay, compiled, which gametype recommended?22:49
mithrorisk is probably the best to try out22:50
gregorhttp://www.thousandparsec.net/wiki/Tpserver-cpp_Setup there are some sudos missing btw.23:02
tpb<http://ln-s.net/rVo> (at www.thousandparsec.net)23:02
mithroyou should not need any sudos23:02
mithrooh wait I see23:03
mithroI have /opt/tpserver-cpp owned by my user23:03
gregorno sound at the intro?23:08
mithroyes, there is no sound on the intro movie23:08
tansellwe had someone look at adding some sound to it23:14
tansellbut we didn't get a good result23:15
gregorproblem is that i can not connect with tpclient-pywx to tpserver-cpp, are they not compatible?23:16
tansellwhat error are you getting?23:16
gregorit stops when i try to connect to the server... Trying to Login to the server...and then nothing happens anymore23:18
tansellwhat does the console show?23:18
gregorwait23:18
tansellit should show a whole bunch of text23:19
gregorhttps://privatepaste.com/401BfjbKKt23:19
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tansellcan you always please paste the complete output?23:19
tansellnormally the error is caused by something hirer up23:19
tansells/hirer/higher/23:20
tansellyou started tpserver-cpp with a config file right? I also recommend starting it in debug mode23:21
gregoryes rishk-random23:27
gregorhttps://privatepaste.com/e3rbUfxJS0 here is complet tpclient-pywx.log23:29
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gregorhow to stop server(not killing it) and how to start in debug mode?23:32
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