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| mithro | heyo people | 04:48 |
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| mithro | o so quiet | 05:55 |
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| llnz | hi all | 05:59 |
| mithro | hey llnz | 05:59 |
| mithro | how was your weekend? | 05:59 |
| llnz | fine thanks, you> | 05:59 |
| llnz | ? | 05:59 |
| mithro | i'm back in Australia now | 06:00 |
| mithro | I should have a surprise for you by the end of the week | 06:01 |
| llnz | cool | 06:02 |
| llnz | i'm intending to release tpserver-cpp 0.5.1 in the next day or two | 06:02 |
| mithro | oh cool! | 06:02 |
| mithro | did you see jphr's post about basic risk almost working? | 06:02 |
| llnz | looks like i need to re-gen the makefiles in the tldl directory | 06:02 |
| llnz | yeah | 06:03 |
| llnz | when i get a minute, i'll be trying to compile it | 06:04 |
| llnz | btw, i wish they (the wx widget project) would sort our wx-python | 06:05 |
| llnz | debian now has python 3.0, and wx depends on << 3.0 | 06:06 |
| mithro | python 3.0!? | 06:07 |
| mithro | they should still have python 2.6 | 06:07 |
| * llnz still hasn't got to watching your video yet | 06:07 | |
| llnz | they do | 06:07 |
| mithro | I doubt the python components will work on python 3.0 | 06:07 |
| llnz | but the python package tracks the highest version | 06:07 |
| mithro | python 3.0 is not backwards compatible | 06:07 |
| llnz | humm.. | 06:07 |
| llnz | a lot of stuff depends on package python | 06:08 |
| llnz | oh | 06:11 |
| llnz | i mis-remembered | 06:11 |
| llnz | python-wxgtk2.8: Depends: python (< 2.5) but 2.5.2-1 is to be installed | 06:11 |
| llnz | not 3.0, 2.5(.2) | 06:12 |
| mithro | that is weird | 06:12 |
| mithro | wxPython works fine with 2.5 | 06:13 |
| llnz | but it won't install | 06:13 |
| mithro | stupid debian :( | 06:13 |
| llnz | stupid wxpython deb | 06:13 |
| mithro | something like that | 06:15 |
| mithro | ubuntu the wxpython deb works | 06:15 |
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| CIA-30 | pluskid schemepy * r63f42faea939 /doc/index.html: Added a simple homepage. | 08:45 |
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| tpb | disconnected from worldforge: Ping sent at 2008-06-15T12:59:55 not replied to. | 13:02 |
| CIA-30 | jmingtan tpclient-pyogre * rc2037b7a919d /src/Scene.py: Goto button will cycle through all selectable objects for currently selected message. | 13:12 |
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| CIA-30 | Fix the colours and visibility of some gui elements. | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | Had to recreate the looknfeel xml due to trailing whitespace issues | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | jmingtan tpclient-pyogre * rd1ac9cfb1cd7 /src/ (Scene.py overlay.py starmap.py): Show new fleets during update and shift radialmenu class to separate module | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | jmingtan tpclient-pyogre * r0959dcb53eea /src/Scene.py: Extract the MessageWindow class | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | jmingtan tpclient-pyogre * rc8155086079b /windows/system.layout: Create the argument window layout and argument templates | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | jmingtan tpclient-pyogre * rd3f23492bd61 /src/ (Scene.py helpers.py): | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | Argument window which supports the following order arguments | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | String | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | List | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | Time | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | Object | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | Absolute Coordinates | 13:12 |
| CIA-30 | aaron libtpproto-cpp-config * rb6f3d45ff40b /tpproto/ (Makefile.am logmessage.cpp logmessage.h): Added LogMessage frame type. | 14:13 |
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| CIA-30 | CommandDescription now uses parameters. | 14:13 |
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| ezod | mithro: just watched your talk, good stuff :) | 18:52 |
| mithro | morning people | 18:54 |
| mithro | ezod: I rate it about a 5 out of 10 | 18:54 |
| mithro | the last two sections need to be better tied together | 18:55 |
| mithro | and I think I managed to insult all americans :) | 18:55 |
| ezod | mithro: i noticed that ;) | 18:55 |
| mithro | it came of a lot more condicending then I had hoped | 18:55 |
| ezod | mithro: well in terms of the concept and content, i think you've got it | 18:56 |
| mithro | yeah - the concept/content is fine - the delivery could be worked on :) | 18:56 |
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| ezod | i just did a talk at my uug on gentoo portage | 19:03 |
| ezod | used the TP ebuilds as an example | 19:03 |
| ezod | http://www.wuug.org/file.php?10,file=5,filename=ggp.pdf | 19:03 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1viV> (at www.wuug.org) | 19:03 |
| mithro | uug? | 19:09 |
| ezod | unix users group | 19:09 |
| ezod | because when we started it, most of us used freebsd and solaris ;) | 19:09 |
| ezod | 9 years later i think it's safe to call it a lug, but the name stuck.. | 19:10 |
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| ezod | llnz: question for ya | 19:19 |
| llnz | hi ezod | 19:19 |
| llnz | sure, fire away | 19:19 |
| ezod | hi ;) | 19:19 |
| ezod | i have to compile libtpproto-cpp static, on gentoo/amd64 | 19:19 |
| ezod | because apparently boost is static, and non-PIC | 19:20 |
| llnz | ah, i just saw your blog on that | 19:20 |
| ezod | is that normal? | 19:21 |
| * ezod is not a .so guru | 19:21 | |
| mithro | static is the evil ;) | 19:21 |
| ezod | yeah, but there doesn't seem to be any way to do it dynamic | 19:22 |
| ezod | i mean, other than recompiling boost with -fPIC i guess | 19:22 |
| ezod | and as shared | 19:22 |
| ezod | but that doesn't seem to be supported by the ebuild | 19:22 |
| ezod | which, i think, is well maintained, so there must be a reason | 19:22 |
| llnz | email the maintainer and ask | 19:24 |
| ezod | ok | 19:24 |
| llnz | i suspect they will say something like, "it has to be static to be fast" (which is BS) | 19:24 |
| ezod | are you on x86_64? | 19:24 |
| llnz | yes | 19:24 |
| ezod | and your boost libs are dynamic? | 19:24 |
| llnz | most of boost is headers only | 19:24 |
| llnz | signals is library and have both dynamic and static versions | 19:25 |
| llnz | (.so and .a) | 19:25 |
| ezod | well it's complaining about signals | 19:25 |
| ezod | and all i have is .a | 19:25 |
| ezod | i'll ask the ebuild maintainer | 19:26 |
| ezod | um.. /usr/lib64/libboost_signals-mt.so | 19:29 |
| ezod | i guess something else is wrong. | 19:29 |
| llnz | humm... | 19:31 |
| ezod | do you build libtpproto-cpp with -fPIC? | 19:33 |
| llnz | it should be | 19:33 |
| ezod | oh ok it is | 19:34 |
| ezod | maybe gcc is borked somehow | 19:35 |
| nash | Umm... | 19:35 |
| nash | no so being generated is libtools fault | 19:36 |
| nash | --enable-dynamic to configure | 19:36 |
| nash | Or find the fool who removed the default to build dynamic | 19:36 |
| ezod | no it did build dynamic, i typoed my find string | 19:37 |
| ezod | but it still seems to want to use the .a | 19:37 |
| ezod | no idea why | 19:37 |
| nash | ezod: just remove the .a, or set it's perms such you can't ;-) | 19:38 |
| ezod | nash: what if something else needs it? :P | 19:38 |
| llnz | ezod: when you comfigure, what does it say about boost_signals | 19:38 |
| ezod | checking whether the Boost::Signals library is available... yes | 19:39 |
| nash | ezod: SHould only be needed if you build with -static | 19:39 |
| ezod | checking for exit in -lboost_signals-mt-s... yes | 19:40 |
| ezod | isn't that -s implying static? | 19:40 |
| llnz | ezod: not sure | 19:40 |
| ezod | /usr/lib64/libboost_signals-mt.so | 19:41 |
| ezod | /usr/lib64/libboost_signals-mt-s.a | 19:41 |
| llnz | odd | 19:42 |
| ezod | http://pastebin.com/d348ce49e | 19:43 |
| ezod | the error, fyi | 19:43 |
| nash | no, -static is static | 19:43 |
| nash | Oh - that -s.. who knows | 19:43 |
| nash | Weird | 19:44 |
| ezod | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1&chap=3 | 19:44 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1vio> (at www.gentoo.org) | 19:44 |
| ezod | none of these cases seem to apply | 19:44 |
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| nash | ezod: It doesn;t appear to be acompiler problem - more of a "the build system is b0rked' problem | 19:58 |
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| nash | ezod: Make sure your .o's are being built with -fPIC | 20:51 |
| nash | x86 doesn't need it, emt/amd64 does | 20:52 |
| mithro | whats emt? | 20:57 |
| nash | I love that gentoo documentation... worry about the performance difference | 20:57 |
| nash | emt64 is intels name for the amd64 arch | 20:57 |
| nash | Don't worry about getting it to work in the least effort ;-) | 20:58 |
| mithro | :P | 20:58 |
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| mithro | JLafont: ping? | 22:03 |
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| JLafont | mithro: pong | 22:30 |
| mithro | I'm about to go to lunch | 22:31 |
| mithro | but I think we need to sit down and have a chat | 22:31 |
| mithro | plus I'm not seeing any status report | 22:31 |
| JLafont | ok | 22:31 |
| JLafont | on my blog? | 22:31 |
| mithro | yeah | 22:32 |
| JLafont | There is one there | 22:32 |
| JLafont | Weekly Report: June 8 - June 14 | 22:32 |
| JLafont | http://juangsoc.blogspot.com/2008/06/weekly-report-june-8-june-14.html | 22:32 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1vk3> (at juangsoc.blogspot.com) | 22:33 |
| mithro | hrm.... | 22:33 |
| mithro | weird.. google reader is just having the shits :( | 22:35 |
| JLafont | boo | 22:36 |
| mithro | JLafont: ping? | 23:48 |
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