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| llnz | 108 turns 120MB db | 02:40 |
| llnz | with 5 ai | 02:41 |
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| mithro | llnz: that isn't too bad | 03:05 |
| nash | nihgt all | 03:15 |
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| llnz | yeah | 03:23 |
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| llnz | wow, over 12,000 objects | 03:54 |
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| llnz | 504 planets takes a long time to conquer | 07:03 |
| * llnz feels like he is at a loose end | 07:04 | |
| mithro | ? | 07:31 |
| llnz | waiting for ai3 to beat the others | 07:33 |
| llnz | weeee... ai5 is finally dead | 07:37 |
| llnz | 183MB for 145 turns, 510 planets and 5 ai | 07:44 |
| llnz | memory usage is slightly lower (but as always, misleading) | 07:45 |
| llnz | humm... it will be ai2 that wins | 07:46 |
| llnz | 374 planets vs 66, 42 and 16 | 07:49 |
| llnz | i guess i could declear a winner | 07:49 |
| mithro | llnz: any luck getting the starmapper working | 08:04 |
| mithro | ? | 08:04 |
| llnz | nope | 08:04 |
| llnz | i'll have another go tomorrow | 08:19 |
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| llnz | later all | 08:20 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 10:37 |
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| vi1985 | hey, did anyone tried installing tp packages on the new hardy ubuntu? | 16:09 |
| vi1985 | i copied the necessary text to /etc/apt/sources.list, and ran atp-get update, but it doesn't find anything in the repository: | 16:17 |
| vi1985 | W: Failed to fetch http://packages.thousandparsec.net/dists/hardy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found | 16:17 |
| vi1985 | it doesn't find anything for the debian dist (sid) | 16:23 |
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| llnz | morning all | 18:25 |
| vi1985 | hey llnz | 18:29 |
| llnz | hi vi1985 | 18:29 |
| vi1985 | llnz btw you have any idea how to install the tp client on ubuntu? seems like the package repository is empty... | 18:30 |
| greywhind | vi1985: you could use the git repository | 18:30 |
| llnz | vi1985: or download the "in place" version from http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/downloads.php | 18:31 |
| tpb | Title: Thousand Parsec : Downloads (at www.thousandparsec.net) | 18:31 |
| vi1985 | greywhind: good idea, i'll try that if the inplace doesnt work | 18:32 |
| greywhind | vi1985: if you're planning to do development work on it, git would be the way to go. otherwise, the inplace version is probably your best bet. | 18:33 |
| vi1985 | llnz, i would like to use the debian package manager... installing by hand on ubuntu seems to be frowned upon. Is the inplace version considered "a package" in debian? | 18:33 |
| llnz | no, you unzip it into a directory (any where), and run it from there | 18:34 |
| vi1985 | greywhind: it's just for playing :) the one i want to work on i already cloned :) | 18:34 |
| vi1985 | llnz, kk i'll try that | 18:34 |
| vi1985 | thanks | 18:34 |
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| llnz | hi xdotx | 18:45 |
| xdotx | heya | 18:45 |
| xdotx | llnz: i've been trying to track down this population maintenance bug since yesterday x.x | 18:45 |
| xdotx | the values are completely bogus, even after i watch where they're set correctly... | 18:47 |
| xdotx | got a check to make sure they're not default initialized but it looks like they are | 18:48 |
| xdotx | hmm. | 18:54 |
| xdotx | llnz: two copies of the same map don't have the same end do they? :/ | 18:55 |
| llnz | same end? | 18:56 |
| xdotx | map.end() | 19:09 |
| xdotx | end, and no, they don't | 19:09 |
| llnz | no, they don't | 19:10 |
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| llnz | hi nash | 19:28 |
| nash | Heyo llnz | 19:29 |
| nash | How is life? | 19:29 |
| CIA-29 | fr33.em4il tpserver-cpp * r9c460ce61ca4 /modules/games/rfts/ (planet.cpp planet.h resourcelistparam.cpp): bug in the resource list lookup. fixes some populations tending to die extremely fast ;P | 19:30 |
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| llnz | hi mithro | 19:42 |
| mithro | morning | 19:44 |
| mithro | greywhind: ping? | 19:44 |
| greywhind | mithro: pong | 19:45 |
| mithro | greywhind: got some time to chat about GSoC? | 19:45 |
| greywhind | mithro: some | 19:45 |
| Iwanowitch | nash! Woo! You're around! At the same time as me! | 19:55 |
| mithro | hey Iwanowitch :) | 19:56 |
| Iwanowitch | mithro: Hi! | 19:56 |
| Iwanowitch | mithro: Can you create a new public project/repository (not sure what the mapping is between those two) for rtfs-ai please? | 19:57 |
| mithro | Iwanowitch: you need to come up with a name for the repository first | 19:57 |
| Iwanowitch | mithro: Okay. Any guidelines? | 19:57 |
| mithro | Iwanowitch: look at the ones which already exist and ignore nash ;) | 19:58 |
| Iwanowitch | mithro: Something like rftsai-py? | 20:01 |
| Iwanowitch | Although it's not really "the one ai for rfts" | 20:01 |
| mithro | Iwanowitch: I guess | 20:01 |
| * mithro pokes nash | 20:01 | |
| * nash is back now | 20:04 | |
| nash | What was he last question? | 20:04 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: I'm here all day | 20:04 |
| nash | Emphasis on the 'day' part ;-) | 20:04 |
| mithro | nash: name | 20:05 |
| Iwanowitch | ruleai-py might work too | 20:05 |
| Iwanowitch | If someone can come up with a more creative name, feel free to. | 20:06 |
| nash | Do we really need to have the language in the name? | 20:06 |
| nash | End user doesn't give a damn | 20:06 |
| nash | RuleAi is good base to start | 20:06 |
| nash | Is there a general famous for strict use of rules? | 20:07 |
| nash | (SunTzu springs to mind, but with rules like "don't be too predictable") makes it hard | 20:07 |
| Iwanowitch | Hmm. Can't really link anything with it. We use the roman law system, which also has something to do with, errr... Napoleon? French revolution? | 20:08 |
| Iwanowitch | Then again, that's a bit Europe-centric. | 20:08 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: Or if you want to be geeky pick a general or leader from sci-fi history | 20:09 |
| nash | Maybe Heldon or something | 20:09 |
| Iwanowitch | Heldon, doesn't ring a bell... Then again, my sf background isn't that great. | 20:12 |
| Iwanowitch | Reminds me of Hari Seldon though. | 20:12 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: My memory is going | 20:12 |
| nash | That's the boy | 20:12 |
| nash | He is famouse for rules... ;-) | 20:13 |
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| Iwanowitch | Mmm. Who invented the laws of robotics, though? | 20:13 |
| Iwanowitch | Wasn't him, was it? | 20:13 |
| nash | No, but she was a cranky old robocist | 20:14 |
| nash | You are better of going daneel for that angle | 20:14 |
| Iwanowitch | daneel | 20:15 |
| nash | All rules, a leader... a robot. | 20:16 |
| Iwanowitch | Sounds a bit... Like I'm going to not do the name honour by using it as my project name. | 20:16 |
| nash | A major part of the galactic empire ;-) | 20:16 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: Think big ;-) | 20:17 |
| nash | Daneel - RFTS | 20:17 |
| Iwanowitch | Oh well. Something like that is fine for me. | 20:18 |
| Iwanowitch | It does kinda make sense. | 20:18 |
| nash | mithro: Works for you? | 20:18 |
| mithro | so the name of the repository is? | 20:19 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: daneel good? | 20:20 |
| Iwanowitch | Yep. | 20:20 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: How easy is it to get different rule sets in? | 20:20 |
| mithro | of course this means that nobody is going to know what the hell that is :) | 20:21 |
| Iwanowitch | Shouldn't be too difficult, I think. | 20:21 |
| Iwanowitch | But as I said, it's not the primary objective. | 20:21 |
| Iwanowitch | (said in my proposal, that is) | 20:21 |
| Iwanowitch | Then again, the long term plan is probably to factor out the different rule sets anyway. | 20:22 |
| nash | mithro: So? They shouldn't need too... part of the point is that it should be in the background. | 20:22 |
| mithro | nash: how are they going to know to install the package with that name :) | 20:24 |
| nash | mithro: Recommends: daneel | 20:24 |
| mithro | nash: and if you saw that - wouldn't you say "WTF is Daneel" ? :) | 20:25 |
| nash | Same way they know they need to install libtpprotpsubclause-dev-py-0.332.2232 to get tpclient-py to work | 20:25 |
| nash | Make it daneel-ai | 20:25 |
| nash | mithro: You are worrying about the wrong problem... it's a packaging issue, anyone who is pulling stuff from git should be reading doco anyway | 20:26 |
| nash | apt-get install tp-ais can solve the problem | 20:26 |
| nash | So how about daneel-ai | 20:28 |
| nash | Putting rfts in the name handicaps it | 20:29 |
| mithro | daneel-ai could work | 20:29 |
| nash | No need to care about language or anything like that (no one cares) | 20:29 |
| * xdotx doesn't care | 20:29 | |
| nash | Excellent, Iwanowitch: You good? Or if you want something else go for it ;-) I'm just sick of seeing tp(lib)?{proto|client|server}-{lang}(-dev)?. It makes my eyes water | 20:32 |
| Iwanowitch | So, daneel-ai? | 20:33 |
| Iwanowitch | Fine for me. | 20:33 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: So just remember... you need to build a secret moon base, and turn the entire galaxy into one giant brain as the two main steps to winning the game | 20:35 |
| * nash wonders if this is supported in advaned RFTS rules | 20:36 | |
| xdotx | heh | 20:36 |
| xdotx | nash: you're not suppose to tell them about the moon base! | 20:36 |
| nash | xdotx: So how are those advanced rules coming? | 20:36 |
| * xdotx runs | 20:37 | |
| Iwanowitch | That is no moon base... | 20:37 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: That's a losing strategy | 20:37 |
| nash | Any scout can take it out | 20:37 |
| Iwanowitch | Well, yeah. It has a few design issues. | 20:38 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: Blow up one space station.. shame on the fighter pilots... blow up two, shame on me? | 20:39 |
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| mithro | http://git.thousandparsec.net/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=daneel-ai.git;a=summary | 20:52 |
| tpb | <http://ln-s.net/1q9v> (at git.thousandparsec.net) | 20:52 |
| Iwanowitch | mithro: thanks! | 20:53 |
| mithro | I spelled it right? | 20:54 |
| nash | yes | 20:55 |
| nash | Hmm.... 11 months ago | 20:56 |
| nash | master | 20:56 |
| nash | shortlog | log | tree | 20:56 |
| nash | Been there longer than I thouhgt... | 20:56 |
| nash | Or a clock is very wrong | 20:56 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: 11 months and you haven't even made a commit! | 20:56 |
| * nash is telling google! | 20:56 | |
| mithro | nash: I just copied from our template | 20:56 |
| Iwanowitch | Heh. | 20:57 |
| Iwanowitch | I'll try to work a bit faster the next few months. | 20:57 |
| nash | Iwanowitch: I hope so ;-) | 20:58 |
| mithro | don't tease the students ;) | 21:01 |
| nash | mithro: Now you are spoiling my fun | 21:04 |
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| llnz | mithro: btw, ai3 won as predicted | 22:55 |
| mithro | llnz: okay | 22:55 |
| CIA-29 | verhoevenv daneel-ai * r274b2f0cbca2 /TODO: Initial TODO commit, testing things... | 23:18 |
| Iwanowitch | Yay. | 23:18 |
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